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Hypothesis based on Ra's dimensional theory:

The 8th/1st Dimension is inherently protected because it has no concept of protection and its purported opposite.

The 2nd Dimension protects the Earth and itself by its inherent acceptance of what's given.

The 3rd Dimension protects by the will of its members directed to the strongest protector.

The 4th Dimension happily plays the role of the strongest protector.

The 5th Dimension having the wisdom to see all is inherently protected, it happily leaves its urges to protect to the 4th Dimension and those of the 3rd Dimension who seek the 4th Dimension.

The 6th Dimension facing the compassion of seeing all is inherently protected by the entropy of seeing those who believe they lack protection, it enables the 3rd Dimension to be and breed its own protectors.

The 7th Dimension advocates all of the above.

Hypothesis: There is no protection except, just concepts of what belies performing such.

Look at a video of someone being violently raped and abused by 4 people and you'll realize protection is an idea, not a Way/Law/Guarantee from the Universe.

Just peruse youtube or 4chan dude. Protection is a fairytale, when the boogeyman comes he'll gut ya like a fish if you think the Universe will auto-protect you.

Protection is a way of being, not an action nor savior; For even the so-called protected must accept the protection of a so-called protector:

Simply protection is refused by a great many, even in innocence of guilt.

I can accept protection as a chosen way of being/performing.  I do not think its fair to the thousands slaughtered in just our history to write them off as not being protected enough or good enough protectors.

Protection.  Its like wearing armor, its a way of being, not a Way/Law of the Universe.  What's protection to us might be infringement to a 5D or 6D entity.

Quite honestly though, I'm a split ( / ) mindset.  I see the ideal of protection in regards to comfort.

Otherwise, I'm constantly furious that we're still so unevolved we require protection from our own selves just to be comfortable.

I couldn't even make sense of it, sometimes I feel like y'all are in Universe Unconditional Love, and I'm over here in Universe DARKESTBRIGHTESTARGHHHH.

But still. i Think Protection is a concept ennacted, not an inherent part of the hidden or otherwise 'intelligent' design of the Universe.

I think protection of the body is a misnomer, because it's an illusion anyway, so what's there to protect?

The other self is self, so it's a moot point saying you'll protect yourself from another self.

(12-12-2015, 08:44 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]I think protection of the body is a misnomer, because it's an illusion anyway, so what's there to protect?

The other self is self, so it's a moot point saying you'll protect yourself from another self.

Hit the nail on the head.

I would relate this idea of protection to 'shells' or containers like the Matryoksha dolls. Each density contains and 'protects' the space of all the other densities. Just like how the skin protects the muscles and flesh, the muscles protect the organs, the organs protect cellular processes, which are protected by their cell membranes, etc. Take away any part of the chain and the whole system falls apart.

(12-12-2015, 07:47 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: [ -> ]I can accept protection as a chosen way of being/performing.  I do not think its fair to the thousands slaughtered in just our history to write them off as not being protected enough or good enough protectors.

Protection.  Its like wearing armor, its a way of being, not a Way/Law of the Universe.  What's protection to us might be infringement to a 5D or 6D entity.

Quite honestly though, I'm a split ( / ) mindset.  I see the ideal of protection in regards to comfort.

Otherwise, I'm constantly furious that we're still so unevolved we require protection from our own selves just to be comfortable.

I couldn't even make sense of it, sometimes I feel like y'all are in Universe Unconditional Love, and I'm over here in Universe DARKESTBRIGHTESTARGHHHH.

But still.  i Think Protection is a concept ennacted, not an inherent part of the hidden or otherwise 'intelligent' design of the Universe.

I think it depends how you play your game. According to Ra the positive polarity is afforded natural protection whereas negative polarity is not. I presume that those who still lie within the zone of indifference also do not get the exact protection that positive polarity receives.

I think this is because Third Density is all about the choice and catalytic experiences revolve around this choice. I see the physical as the 'last occuring plane' so whatever plays out here is a manifestation of decisions already made on other levels.

The question really, is can you accept the atrocity of an event, accept it is valid and still feel compassionate? Most people would say not because they identify compassion with sympathy and thus, how could you accept something horrible under compassion without also rejecting its innate nature?

However, I believe the issue is in the idea of justification. You can accept something without needing to justify it. Just like you can hate something without needing to justify it. I don't need to justify an event as being 'positive or negative' based to identify with the individuals and feel compassion. I also am not strictly biased towards obvious victims. I see a victim in every perpetrator and thus also feel compassion for then. I feel compassion for both predator and prey, for monsters and saints, for good and evil.

(12-12-2015, 07:03 AM)Adonai One Wrote: [ -> ]Protection is a way of being, not an action nor savior; For even the so-called protected must accept the protection of a so-called protector:

Simply protection is refused by a great many, even in innocence of guilt.

"No one will save you" is a wicked trick to get people to subconsciously deny themselves any natural protection. "God won't save you now" is another one.

In the Ra Material, the greatest protection was afforded through unity and the sharing of Love. It's what allowed the three to hold off the movements of their negative friend even though they were collectively less powerful. That being said, they were exceedingly focused on this unity which I can't say the same for the vast majority of people.

There is also the alternate idea that we are indeed on a 'prison' planet of sorts which is held by a group of supposedly 'immortal' STS masters who do everything they can to disrupt the formation of the positive polarity, especially to keep those of positive orientation separate from eachother for so long as we are divided we are no threat. It is the unity of the masses that the world leaders fear.

By this virtue it would be made as apparent as possible that no one is truly save. In one stroke severing any innate connection to the One by blocking the red-ray. It has worked for thousands of years.

(12-12-2015, 12:24 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2015, 08:44 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]I think protection of the body is a misnomer, because it's an illusion anyway, so what's there to protect?

The other self is self, so it's a moot point saying you'll protect yourself from another self.

Hit the nail on the head.

I would relate this idea of protection to 'shells' or containers like the Matryoksha dolls. Each density contains and 'protects' the space of all the other densities. Just like how the skin protects the muscles and flesh, the muscles protect the organs, the organs protect cellular processes, which are protected by their cell membranes, etc. Take away any part of the chain and the whole system falls apart.

I've never had damage to the muscles, but I can imagine it would be more painful than a simple skin burn.

You've never pulled a muscle or sprained something?

(12-12-2015, 12:24 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2015, 08:44 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]I think protection of the body is a misnomer, because it's an illusion anyway, so what's there to protect?

The other self is self, so it's a moot point saying you'll protect yourself from another self.

Hit the nail on the head.

I would relate this idea of protection to 'shells' or containers like the Matryoksha dolls. Each density contains and 'protects' the space of all the other densities. Just like how the skin protects the muscles and flesh, the muscles protect the organs, the organs protect cellular processes, which are protected by their cell membranes, etc. Take away any part of the chain and the whole system falls apart.

They've taken away plenty, the whole thing only collapses if you take away all of one thing, and even then, your body might just rebuild it if it can.

(12-12-2015, 12:36 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2015, 07:47 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: [ -> ]I can accept protection as a chosen way of being/performing.  I do not think its fair to the thousands slaughtered in just our history to write them off as not being protected enough or good enough protectors.

Protection.  Its like wearing armor, its a way of being, not a Way/Law of the Universe.  What's protection to us might be infringement to a 5D or 6D entity.

Quite honestly though, I'm a split ( / ) mindset.  I see the ideal of protection in regards to comfort.

Otherwise, I'm constantly furious that we're still so unevolved we require protection from our own selves just to be comfortable.

I couldn't even make sense of it, sometimes I feel like y'all are in Universe Unconditional Love, and I'm over here in Universe DARKESTBRIGHTESTARGHHHH.

But still.  i Think Protection is a concept ennacted, not an inherent part of the hidden or otherwise 'intelligent' design of the Universe.

I think it depends how you play your game. According to Ra the positive polarity is afforded natural protection whereas negative polarity is not. I presume that those who still lie within the zone of indifference also do not get the exact protection that positive polarity receives.

I think this is because Third Density is all about the choice and catalytic experiences revolve around this choice. I see the physical as the 'last occuring plane' so whatever plays out here is a manifestation of decisions already made on other levels.

The question really, is can you accept the atrocity of an event, accept it is valid and still feel compassionate? Most people would say not because they identify compassion with sympathy and thus, how could you accept something horrible under compassion without also rejecting its innate nature?

However, I believe the issue is in the idea of justification. You can accept something without needing to justify it. Just like you can hate something without needing to justify it. I don't need to justify an event as being 'positive or negative' based to identify with the individuals and feel compassion. I also am not strictly biased towards obvious victims. I see a victim in every perpetrator and thus also feel compassion for then. I feel compassion for both predator and prey, for monsters and saints, for good and evil.

Does the negative path not also have protection...

I accept, doesn't mean I agree but its not my place to agree, only to accept.
Its made me a pretty gray person.

I wouldn't call love and unity protectors, I think the natural mechanics of polarity allow for 'protection' if you realize a natural wall of magnetism repulsing can be said to be protection, when its really not made as protection but just has that benefit of keeping back things as if protecting (when its not, its just being as it will).

I don't even view it as a doll in a doll.

I mean, if by protection you mean your Higher Self can deprogram events too.  I would accept that.  Otherwise, just leading you around those events.  Is like...

Oh dear God.  I'm.  An escort mission for my Higher Self lol

Listen man, I think I live in Hell and even I don't think this planet is a prison o:

I tend to think that the need for protection becomes less the more dense an entity becomes. Once one hits 5D or 6D, I don't think there's really much that can "harm" that entity in any reasonable meaning of the word. Especially since by 5D they've learned the futility of direct conflict. Even an unexpected or unpleasant experience just becomes one more learning opportunity.

(12-13-2015, 12:24 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2015, 12:24 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2015, 08:44 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]I think protection of the body is a misnomer, because it's an illusion anyway, so what's there to protect?

The other self is self, so it's a moot point saying you'll protect yourself from another self.

Hit the nail on the head.

I would relate this idea of protection to 'shells' or containers like the Matryoksha dolls. Each density contains and 'protects' the space of all the other densities. Just like how the skin protects the muscles and flesh, the muscles protect the organs, the organs protect cellular processes, which are protected by their cell membranes, etc. Take away any part of the chain and the whole system falls apart.

They've taken away plenty, the whole thing only collapses if you take away all of one thing, and even then, your body might just rebuild it if it can.

(12-12-2015, 12:36 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2015, 07:47 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: [ -> ]I can accept protection as a chosen way of being/performing.  I do not think its fair to the thousands slaughtered in just our history to write them off as not being protected enough or good enough protectors.

Protection.  Its like wearing armor, its a way of being, not a Way/Law of the Universe.  What's protection to us might be infringement to a 5D or 6D entity.

Quite honestly though, I'm a split ( / ) mindset.  I see the ideal of protection in regards to comfort.

Otherwise, I'm constantly furious that we're still so unevolved we require protection from our own selves just to be comfortable.

I couldn't even make sense of it, sometimes I feel like y'all are in Universe Unconditional Love, and I'm over here in Universe DARKESTBRIGHTESTARGHHHH.

But still.  i Think Protection is a concept ennacted, not an inherent part of the hidden or otherwise 'intelligent' design of the Universe.

I think it depends how you play your game. According to Ra the positive polarity is afforded natural protection whereas negative polarity is not. I presume that those who still lie within the zone of indifference also do not get the exact protection that positive polarity receives.

I think this is because Third Density is all about the choice and catalytic experiences revolve around this choice. I see the physical as the 'last occuring plane' so whatever plays out here is a manifestation of decisions already made on other levels.

The question really, is can you accept the atrocity of an event, accept it is valid and still feel compassionate? Most people would say not because they identify compassion with sympathy and thus, how could you accept something horrible under compassion without also rejecting its innate nature?

However, I believe the issue is in the idea of justification. You can accept something without needing to justify it. Just like you can hate something without needing to justify it. I don't need to justify an event as being 'positive or negative' based to identify with the individuals and feel compassion. I also am not strictly biased towards obvious victims. I see a victim in every perpetrator and thus also feel compassion for then. I feel compassion for both predator and prey, for monsters and saints, for good and evil.

Does the negative path not also have protection...

I accept, doesn't mean I agree but its not my place to agree, only to accept.
Its made me a pretty gray person.

I wouldn't call love and unity protectors, I think the natural mechanics of polarity allow for 'protection' if you realize a natural wall of magnetism repulsing can be said to be protection, when its really not made as protection but just has that benefit of keeping back things as if protecting (when its not, its just being as it will).

I don't even view it as a doll in a doll.

I mean, if by protection you mean your Higher Self can deprogram events too.  I would accept that.  Otherwise, just leading you around those events.  Is like...

Oh dear God.  I'm.  An escort mission for my Higher Self lol

Listen man, I think I live in Hell and even I don't think this planet is a prison o:

I think you're just depressed.

Sure, the negative path has protection that they arrange for themselves. Negative path isn't really in to accepting help, doesn't work for control so well.

I think I'll just keep to myself then.

Protection as a Universal Law. I wish.

The archetypes tell us there are two types of protection, different for each polarity.




In the Lovers card (The Two Paths, The Transformation of the Mind), the left-hand path is protected by the genie in the corner, with his sharp arrow. Ra says as the negative path transforms further, it is further protected BY the separation it causes between itself and others. The right-hand path doesn't get this type of protection, because we see everything as mirrors and a part of us instead of "what we are not".




In the Emperor (The Hierophant, The Experience of the Mind), the right-hand path is guarded by a white cat. Again, the cat guards more increasingly as one move along through the polarizing - guarding one from the more harsher catalyst of the material illusion. I think this is representative of how once one achieves harvest levels of green-ray (51%) they are subject to less and less random catalyst.

So, there is definitely protection in 3D for both polarities, the protection for the positive path being in the Experience of the Mind, where one "chooses the positive/magical interpretation" with more frequency and ease. The protection for the negative path is involved in the Transformation of the Mind, where as one separates themselves from the thoughts of others they become more of an island, so to speak. In the Transformation of the Mind, the positive path still diverges further from the "social norm", but this can be less desirable and more painful. Also, we recognize more and more that the perceived ugliness within others is actually within ourselves - which can also be quite painful.

So, Ra very clearly says that protection for both paths increases with polarity.



Re: Experience of the Mind

Quote:95.23 Questioner: What I meant to say was that the entity is guarded along the right-hand path, once it is chosen, from effects of the material illusion that are of a negative polarity. Would Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an accurate perception of our intent, O student. We may note that the great cat guards in direct proportion to the purity of the manifestations of intention and the purity of inner work done along this path.

Re: Transformation of the Mind

Quote:We now speak of that genie, or elemental, or mythic figure, culturally determined, which sends the arrow to the left-hand transformation. This arrow is not the arrow which kills but rather that which, in its own way, protects. Those who choose separation, that being the quality most indicative of the left-hand path, are protected from other-selves by a strength and sharpness equivalent to the degree of transformation which the mind has experienced in the negative sense. Those upon the right-hand path have no such protection against other-selves for upon that path the doughty seeker shall find many mirrors for reflection in each other-self it encounters.

(12-13-2015, 05:23 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: [ -> ]I think I'll just keep to myself then.

Protection as a Universal Law.  I wish.

I'm depressed too, welcome to the club. You might have an easier time if you recognize that others struggle from the same difficulties you do, we just experience and express it in our own ways. Just saying, you're not alone. I just suck at gentility.