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(04-28-2016, 07:16 PM)Stranger Wrote: [ -> ]Gorillas found dismantling poachers' traps for the first time

That's awesome! Thanks for posting.

There's also evidence that Chimpanzees in West Africa are engaging in ritual behaviour hinting at the development of spiritual beliefs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc...11301.html

(04-28-2016, 07:16 PM)Stranger Wrote: [ -> ]Gorillas found dismantling poachers' traps for the first time

The researcher saying they cannot teach the gorillas and interfere reminds me of something Ra would say

What about honey bees?!

A bee removing a nail from a wall:




Hives punish bees who come back drunk:

Maybe... It's arguable this may be adapting for the sake of survival.

19.11 Wrote:Questioner: Can you tell me how this new bodily complex was suited to third-density lessons and what those lessons were?

Ra: I am Ra. There is one necessity for third density. That necessity is self-awareness, or self-consciousness. In order to be capable of such, this chemical complex of body must be capable of the abstract thought. Thus, the fundamental necessity is the combination of rational and intuitive thinking. This was transitory in the second-density forms operating largely upon intuition which proved through practice to yield results.

The third-density mind was capable of processing information in such a way as to think abstractly and in what could be termed “useless” ways, in the sense of survival. This is the primary requisite.

There are other important ingredients: the necessity for a weaker physical vehicle to encourage the use of the mind, the development of the already present awareness of the social complex. These also being necessary: the further development of physical dexterity in the sense of the hand, as you call this portion of your body complex

That's not to say that they aren't at the cusp of 3D as a species; I'm guessing they are. I'm sure there are many individual cases of 3D harvestability. I'm just not sure this objectively demonstrates abstract thought without literally hearing the thoughts of these gorillas.

abstract thought is simply the ability to build a mental representation of external reality in a way that allows it to be manipulated internally (mentally) rather than only externally. It seems to me that some significant degree of this is present when the animal is able to recognize what a trap is and figure out what is required in order to deactivate it -- also to not only choose to avoid it, knowing what it is, but to recognize that others could get caught in it and decide to destroy it. As to whether it's sufficient to harvest into 3D - you're right, that is hard to say. But still very neat.

(04-29-2016, 10:47 AM)Spaced Wrote: [ -> ]There's also evidence that Chimpanzees in West Africa are engaging in ritual behaviour hinting at the development of spiritual beliefs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc...11301.html

They're in a forest surrounded by trees, of course it's the first thing they'll hit when they get mad. I'm not saying they aren't capable though. Still, that was quite funny.

Now if only more humans could figure out how to get out of monkey traps!

"A monkey saw a cherry through the clear glass of a bottle, and thought he would take it.
Passing his hand into the neck of the bottle, he closed his fist over the cherry. Now he found
that he could not withdraw his hand. The hunter, who had set this trap, now came along.
The monkey, impossibly hampered by the bottle, could not run away, and he was caught.
'At least I have the cherry in my hand,' he thought. At that moment the hunter gave him
a sharp tap on the elbow. The monkey's hand opened, and came out of the bottle. The
hunter now had the fruit, the bottle, and the monkey."
                                                                                    (from the Book of Amu-Daria)
http://www.godlessinamerica.com/monkeytrap.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9XYxXSmmoU


Bros.   http://www.humanjourney.us/ancestorsIntro.html


Just hangin', chillin'. It's no big thang.


Koko the talkative gorilla, who recently (July 8) had her 45th birthday.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/08/koko-the-talking-gorilla-sign-language-francine-patterson/402307/


Advanced musical skills of some long-haired gorillas.


Orangs want to get into the act, too.


Other examples of animals poised to ascend the evolutionary ladder:


The extremely rare Guacamolean Bat-Eared Foozlemeister performing the third soliloquy ("To be or not to be...") from Hamlet (Act 3, Scene 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvt4b_qwC_Q



The Great Hiho Silverwhite Landshark proves uncommonly inventive at ad-libbing suitably-themed variations on "The Aristocrats" when presented with random topics as stimuli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYUETk3bv48



A Smooth-Gummed Meerkatagator playing his own transcription of "Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida" on a steam calliope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5weRonRrU



Mixed-Breed Long-Haired Domestic Housecat shows astonishing prowess as contrarian financial prognosticator; will soon head own hedge fund: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-07...so-spooked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPw

Observe Animals, Their awareness is expanding now. Not sure if that anwsers your question.