(06-15-2010, 10:58 AM)xlsander Wrote: [ -> ]thank you! very good read indeed. I have discovered DW at the end of 08 just like the LOO after the HH interview being the catalyst and honestly - there s so much still to discover - but the bottom line is so simple - its all about inner work. what strucked me thou is that the harvest applies to everyone incarnated and no tincarnated - so basically even efen one would go ahead and end this incarnation deliberately the impact on the polarization process given the few years until the harvest comes shouldnt be this big...should it?
(06-15-2010, 12:06 PM)Namaste Wrote: [ -> ]If you're referring to suicide, only someone in a negative disposition would consider it. Taking one's own life would most likely incur some karmic baggage, as we all know, karma feeds the wheel of 3D re-incarnation. Best avoided
(06-15-2010, 10:51 PM)MtDoraGuy Wrote: [ -> ](06-15-2010, 05:37 PM)Namaste Wrote: [ -> ]Dora: marvellous to hear that you discovered yourself. Very inspirational! Out of interest, what type of meditation do you perform to connect with your higher self/6D?
Meditation has always kept me near my higher self. However, I couldn't get the realization, life changing experience I needed to make it completely real.
However, after attending the Austin Convergence with David Wilcock, it seems some sort of new vibratonal energy was transforming within me.
It made me frustrated, confused and uneasy. It was almost like I had an 'itching' inside which I could not scratch. I was really having trouble meditating and could not rest with my higher power.
Then, I watched David's interview with Graham Hancock. In it, Graham talks about his experiences with 'ayahuasca'. I tried some and found out it really brought me in touch with my 6d self.
Since the experience, I have become a vegan, as the thought of being a 'murderer for meat' became extremely distasteful. Weight has dropped off and I feel myself on a new energy level.
Since ayahuasca is a hallucinogenic, I do not comment on its use other than it has been extremely useful to me in understand Ra's teachings and my bonding with my 6d self.
Here is the url to the interview, in case you are interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WiasAfSiu4
(06-16-2010, 05:51 PM)Richard Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting to see DW take the LOO line by line and give his interpretation of its meaning. I see TV preachers do the same thing with bible passages. Its apparent that he fervently believes his interpetation of coming events. But like all of us here..its just an opinion.
I like reading DW…but I read other channels also. I take the message from each that I feel helps me come to terms on whatever I’m working on at the time. But one thing I do agree with him on. You have to die to ascend. I just don’t think we’re all going to do it in one fell swoop. I believe the dates of 2010-2013 are meaningless in a physical context. Beyond the normal interplay of life in general. Meaning, there will always be incidents that take human life…storms, flood, earthquakes, other selves…etc..
Richard
Quote:If the end of the Great Cycle is near, all who have learned the lessons (or not) will be at a point of continued 3D or progression to 4D- or 4D+. A 'natural disaster' is just another means of getting people to the correct density when the time is right, to continue their path.
Half the fun is thinking about it
(06-16-2010, 11:55 PM)MtDoraGuy Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:If the end of the Great Cycle is near, all who have learned the lessons (or not) will be at a point of continued 3D or progression to 4D- or 4D+. A 'natural disaster' is just another means of getting people to the correct density when the time is right, to continue their path.
Half the fun is thinking about it
I attended the Austin Convergence with David. During it, he said that the earth will not die a 'nuclear' death, that the ET's would not allow it and neutralize any bombs if we tried to use them on each other.
He also said that if natural disasters occurred to destroy mankind on this planet, that all people will make the transition, either to 4d or another 3d planet.
I imagine the 3d people would 'trancend' away from earth the same way the 3d peoples left Mars during their destruction.
Quote:These are matters with which only you who dwell in the flesh on planet Earth have the right and responsibility to deal. We have the right to rescue entities that may have been blown up in a nuclear explosion. We do not have the right to interfere with such an explosion. As you in your heart live, so does the human tribe as a whole live. And so we put this concern to you: if you have fear, let it be fear of your own human tendency to destroy. And see what you can do to create within yourself a heart that is genuinely, deeply committed to building up rather than destroying.
Quote:G: M writes, “I would like to ask Q’uo what is the fate of the veil on this planet beginning in 2013 and continuing in time thereafter? Will it gradually dissolve? If so, at approximately what rate? Please describe how this occurrence will affect the planet and the third-density entities upon it as much as you can without infringing on the Law of Confusion. Thank you.”
Q'uo: We are those of Q’uo, and we thank the one known as M for this query. When one is, as you are, possessed of physical senses which perceive a physical world, it is completely understandable that you would not necessarily grasp the concept that all apparently solid objects are actually fields of energy. As fields of energy, the closest that they come to matter is small fields of energy within the larger and encompassing field of energy which are called atoms. However, from your scientists you have received the information that even these points of matter, so called, are in fact energy fields, that matter has never been seen by your keenest telescope. Rather, it is the path of energy that is seen. And you know from your scientists that an atom consists almost entirely of space. We mention these scientific facts to you so that you may begin to wrap your mind around the concept of the nested densities of the creation.
Third-density Earth is nested within fourth-density Earth. It is not the same Earth as fourth-density Earth. Third-density Earth will not become fourth-density Earth, any more than first-density Earth became second-density Earth, or second-density Earth became third-density Earth. These densities are nested in such a way as to occupy the same area or influence within space/time and time/space, held lovingly by the overarching energy field of your sun.
Third-density Earth is an Earth whose light is waning. While it will remain third-density, it will no longer support third-density entities in their seeking of the truth. Thusly, third density is shortly to become inactive, we would say, within three or four hundred of your years beyond 2012. Thusly, 2013 upon your planet will look very much like 2012 upon your planet. However, you will find that your population of entities grows more and more interested and fascinated with the reparation of the Earth and the healing of what you call your Mother Earth or Gaia.
Those who incarnate at this time upon Planet Earth, that is, after 2012, will be those whose experiences in other incarnations have carried with them an element of adhering karma because of the destruction of their Earth whether it be this Earth and the destruction of Atlantis, or Maldek, or Mars, or several other Earths that created an uninhabitable third-density planet and thusly needed to finish third density upon Planet Earth. There are quite a few millions of those who feel that desire at this time to be part of the healing of the Mother. And there is great joy in contemplating that healing.
Fourth-density Earth is an entirely different sphere, within which third density is nested. And as fourth-density light becomes that which your sun is capable of offering, that fourth-density Earth shall more and more become populated by those from third-density Earth who have graduated in a positive sense and wish to move on. It will be a long time before entities who are inhabiting third density will be able to see entities of fourth density. However, they are as real and as physical, shall we say, to themselves and to fourth-density Earth as you are to your Earth.
We realize that this is one of the less comfortable or naturally obvious concepts having to do with the concept of densities. It is natural for a person to think that this same Earth upon which your feet make footsteps shall become fourth density and that on this same Earth, fourth density shall take place. However, we would suggest to you that it is much like wanting to take your physical body with you when you pass from physical life upon this planet and hoping to drag what this instrument would call this chemical distillery of a body into fourth density and attempt to lug it around when everyone else is dancing with a much lighter and electrically driven rather than chemically driven body.[/
(06-17-2010, 03:12 PM)MtDoraGuy Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:G: M writes, “I would like to ask Q’uo what is the fate of the veil on this planet beginning in 2013 and continuing in time thereafter? Will it gradually dissolve? If so, at approximately what rate? Please describe how this occurrence will affect the planet and the third-density entities upon it as much as you can without infringing on the Law of Confusion. Thank you.”
Q'uo: We are those of Q’uo, and we thank the one known as M for this query. When one is, as you are, possessed of physical senses which perceive a physical world, it is completely understandable that you would not necessarily grasp the concept that all apparently solid objects are actually fields of energy. As fields of energy, the closest that they come to matter is small fields of energy within the larger and encompassing field of energy which are called atoms. However, from your scientists you have received the information that even these points of matter, so called, are in fact energy fields, that matter has never been seen by your keenest telescope. Rather, it is the path of energy that is seen. And you know from your scientists that an atom consists almost entirely of space. We mention these scientific facts to you so that you may begin to wrap your mind around the concept of the nested densities of the creation.
Third-density Earth is nested within fourth-density Earth. It is not the same Earth as fourth-density Earth. Third-density Earth will not become fourth-density Earth, any more than first-density Earth became second-density Earth, or second-density Earth became third-density Earth. These densities are nested in such a way as to occupy the same area or influence within space/time and time/space, held lovingly by the overarching energy field of your sun.
Third-density Earth is an Earth whose light is waning. While it will remain third-density, it will no longer support third-density entities in their seeking of the truth. Thusly, third density is shortly to become inactive, we would say, within three or four hundred of your years beyond 2012. Thusly, 2013 upon your planet will look very much like 2012 upon your planet. However, you will find that your population of entities grows more and more interested and fascinated with the reparation of the Earth and the healing of what you call your Mother Earth or Gaia.
Those who incarnate at this time upon Planet Earth, that is, after 2012, will be those whose experiences in other incarnations have carried with them an element of adhering karma because of the destruction of their Earth whether it be this Earth and the destruction of Atlantis, or Maldek, or Mars, or several other Earths that created an uninhabitable third-density planet and thusly needed to finish third density upon Planet Earth. There are quite a few millions of those who feel that desire at this time to be part of the healing of the Mother. And there is great joy in contemplating that healing.
Fourth-density Earth is an entirely different sphere, within which third density is nested. And as fourth-density light becomes that which your sun is capable of offering, that fourth-density Earth shall more and more become populated by those from third-density Earth who have graduated in a positive sense and wish to move on. It will be a long time before entities who are inhabiting third density will be able to see entities of fourth density. However, they are as real and as physical, shall we say, to themselves and to fourth-density Earth as you are to your Earth.
We realize that this is one of the less comfortable or naturally obvious concepts having to do with the concept of densities. It is natural for a person to think that this same Earth upon which your feet make footsteps shall become fourth density and that on this same Earth, fourth density shall take place. However, we would suggest to you that it is much like wanting to take your physical body with you when you pass from physical life upon this planet and hoping to drag what this instrument would call this chemical distillery of a body into fourth density and attempt to lug it around when everyone else is dancing with a much lighter and electrically driven rather than chemically driven body.[/
I find this very interesting. Q'uo states that there will still be 3d incarnations on earth for the next 300-400 years.
This only makes me more curious how the harvest wil manifest itself in 2012.
(06-17-2010, 11:27 PM)MtDoraGuy Wrote: [ -> ]I must say, I talked with David Wilcock in Austin and heard him speak about his knowledge on these matters all weekend. He is adamant that ET's and UFO's will be universally disclosed by 12/2012 when the quarantine is over.
If that happens, his credibility for 'inside information' may increase.
It will be interesting to see his new book which is about to be published. I wonder if anything new about the harvest will be included.
(06-18-2010, 12:02 AM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ]firstly, i heard that he was saying that the disclosure was going to happen at an earlier year, but have come up wrong.
second, and more importantly, i have read about his past, his time with l&l, and some measure of his channelings. There is way too much personal stuff, personal gratification in those channelings. he may not be a reliable channel.
(06-18-2010, 05:58 AM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ]on another note, he seems to be an individual with ego issues. 'reincarnation of edgar cayce', 'channeler of Ra', 2 most prominent spiritual message sources of modern times, a predictor of events, a singer (he recently put out a single i believe), a speaker and so on.
he pretty much acts like an adolescent celebrity, in the words of someone who was in the discussion in the other forum i saw this topic came up.
(06-18-2010, 06:19 AM)MtDoraGuy Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, brother! Ouch! Methinks you are not going to purchase his 50 song album called 'Wanderer Awakening', for $39.99?
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/online...escription