(07-04-2010, 08:14 PM)Namaste Wrote: [ -> ]One would imagine that Tesla's lab was not a conscious entity which chose love or fear, and is simply a metaphor for Tesla and his work. Understand the key point that Tesla was indeed STO (and hence love) polarised, and responsible for his inventions.
i meant a place in which manifestations of love was abound. did not take the lab as an entity which had graduated to 3d (although this is possible as per the example Ra gave in the related topic), but rather a place which was being affected by any particular vibration the entities using it were in.
Quote:This statement implies that creativity skips the heart and is purely from higher rays. Higher rays still employ green ray energy - creativity driven by the desire to serve others includes love. They are not mutually exclusive.
that statement doesnt imply such a thing. any higher ray requires the activity of all the lower rays. whereas proposing otherwise, as in tying all the manifestations of infinite intelligence in this particular creation to love, implies totally the opposite - it ties all existence to love. if so, what will the next octave be tied to ?
Quote:This entire universe can be reduced to a simple context. The first three distortions are examples of this. The word distortion itself explains this perfectly.
and above those three distortions, lies infinite intelligence, aka god, aka creator, and ABOVE that, lies infinity. 'first, there was infinity'.
Quote:All choices towards STO are based upon love. The same applies to STS, the basis of the choice is fear. It is that simple. This is not my own interpretation, this is directly from Ra/Q'uo...
Quo Wrote:...service to others springs from a ground of love and service to self springs from a ground of fear
Quo Wrote:The being who acts in reactivity to fear, and thus acts in what we have called service to self
springing from something does not make the result what it has sprung from. 4th ray springs from 3rd, yet this doesnt make green yellow.
moreover, the quo quote above is lacking in context compared to what Ra has said in regard to this subject.
ra had noted in the subject of polarity, some entities love sunlight, joy, laughter. and there are some entities which have an inclination to darkness, suffering, suffering of others and their self, and similar things. some prefer the sun, some prefer the moon.
quo quote is lacking on that matter - not all inclinations to negativity come from any underlying fear. there are some which are evil, per se, if the saying goes, without having any underlying fear to justify it. quo quote seems to involve the situation on this world, in which a lot of the self serving behavior of entities are indeed tied to underlying fears, or lifetimes of fears incurred in previous incarnations. which can cause entities to act quite self servingly. however, as Ra explains, there is also a dark side of existence. i personally take Ra text over anything quo says in case of conflict, for, the latter is, as i have learned, a collective of Ra, hatonn and latwii, in which latwii exclusively speaks, sometimes hatonn, but never Ra.
Quote:These are two of many quotes, and state the opposite of your quote above. It would be much appreciated if you would accompany your statements with quotes, as it is difficult - and sometimes confusing - to determine whether your notions are strictly the Law of One, or your own interpretation.
as always i am assuming that people who are talking on a particular aspect of Ra material remember all related important q/as. my mistake.
http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#15
Quote:Questioner: The only obvious significant difference, I believe, between the positive and negative adepts in using this shuttle is the way they polarize. Is there a relationship between the archetypes of the spirit and whether the polarization is either positive or negative? Is, for instance, the positive calling through the sixteenth archetype and the negative calling through the fifteenth archetype? I am very confused about this and I imagine that that question is either poor or meaningless. Can you answer that?
Ra: I am Ra. It is a challenge to answer such a query, for there is some confusion in its construction. However, we shall attempt to speak upon the subject.
The adept, whether positive or negative, has the same Matrix. The Potentiator is also identical. Due to the Catalyst of each adept the adept may begin to pick and choose that into which it shall look further. The Experience of the Spirit, that which you have called the Moon, is then, by far, the more manifest of influences upon the polarity of the adept. Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred. The service-to-self adept will satisfy itself with the shadows and, grasping the light of day, will toss back the head in grim laughter, preferring the darkness.
notice there are no mentions of fear in the above note. if, fear was the actual cause of the existence of negative polarity and negative polarization, ra would have mentioned it as such, and this would pass as a factor in all related topics, and its mechanics would have been examined in detail. however, there are, as far as i remember, no situations in which fear is being named as
the reason for negative polarization.
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Quote:19.14 Questioner: Then the newest third-density beings who have just made the transition from second are still strongly biased towards self-service. There must be many other mechanisms to create an awareness of the possibility of service to others.
I am wondering, first about the mechanism and I am wondering when the split takes place where the entity is able to continue on the road to service to self that will eventually take him on to fourth density.
I’m assuming that an entity can start, say, in second density with service to self and continue right on through and just stay on what we would call the path of service to self and never be pulled over. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The second-density concept of serving self includes the serving of those associated with tribe or pack. This is not seen in second density as separation of self and other-self. All is seen as self since in some forms of second-density entities, if the tribe or pack becomes weakened, so does the entity within the tribe or pack.
The new or initial third density has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.
The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives otherselves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.
and again in the above, the entity perceives other selves as other selves, and consciously determines to manipulate the others for the benefit of self. it is a conscious decision, not one fallen into out of fear. it is a preference.
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Quote:50.6 Questioner: Could you give an example of negative polarization sharing love of self? It would seem to me that that would deplete negative polarization. Could you expand on the concept?
Ra: I am Ra. We may not use examples of known beings due to the infringement this would cause. Thus we must be general.
The negatively oriented being will be one who feels that it has found power that gives meaning to its existence precisely as the positive polarization does feel. This negative entity will strive to offer these understandings to other-selves, most usually by the process of forming the elite, the disciples, and teaching the need and rightness of the enslavement of other-selves for their own good. These other-selves are conceived to be dependent upon the self and in need of the guidance and the wisdom of the self.
in the above, again, it is not a decision that is brought forth or coerced due to existence of any kind of fear, or based in fear. it is a preference. the negatively polarizing entity decides its choice of negative path gives meaning to its existence. not allays its fears, or takes measures against its fears, or any particular fear related concept. it finds the negative route more meaningful.
Now, this one below is the most important, and rather conclusive for that particular train of thought :
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Quote:87.11 Questioner: I’m sorry for getting confused on my question here in not asking it correctly. There is a philosophical point of central importance that I am trying to clear up here. It has to do with the fact that fourth-density negative seems to be aware of the first distortion. They are in a nonveiled condition, and they seem to use this knowledge of the first distortion to maintain the situation that they maintain in contacts with this planet. I am trying to extract their ability to understand the mechanism of the first distortion and the consequences of the veiling process and still remain in a mental configuration of separation on the negative path. I hope that I have made myself clear there. I have had a hard time asking this question.
Ra: I am Ra. The answer may still not satisfy the questioner. We ask that you pursue it until you are satisfied. The fourth-density negative entity has made the choice available to each at third-density harvest. It is aware of the full array of possible methods of viewing the universe of the One Creator and it is convinced that the ignoring and non-use of the green-ray energy center will be the method most efficient in providing harvestability of fourth density. Its operations among those of third density which have not yet made this choice are designed to offer to each the opportunity to consider the self-serving polarity and its possible attractiveness.
which means, the negatively harvestable entity knows of all the aspects of 3rd density, just like how the positive harvestable entity knows. therefore, it knows of fear, it knows of safety, it knows of love, it knows of self love, anger, and all the emotions that 3rd density creates.
it doesnt fall to negativity due to fear, or fears do not take its soul hostage so that it cannot let go. it consciously decides (maybe on a soul level) that negativity is the most efficient. it is a conscious decision.
this is also in conjunction with Ra's description that a higher self sends catalyst (random) to a new 3rd d entity until some kind of bias or preference appears. that means, the new 3d entity is given all kinds of experiences until it starts to prefer any of them.
not to mention that, had fear been the underlying reason for negative polarity, it would be very easy to prevent negative polarization. all you need would be to alleviate the fears an entity had. fear of losing, fear of poverty, fear of failure, fear of loneliness and so on, by creating the proper social or emotional situations in which these fears would become unfounded. it is even possible to alleviate fear of death too, through certain philosophies or beliefs. there are numerous religions, cultures past and present that have eternal existence in their core, and even there are those who had the belief that the current body and form would live on, like egypt. they even had a mummifying industry for that.
yet, ironically the situations, positions in which fears become unfounded, are the ones which produce the negative entities. in wealth and power, negative entities not only find their meaning, but also they particularly choose such incarnations. it should be in the above quotes, if not, its in the same part of Ra material, that negative entities would program lives that would give them the most benefits and amenities, and as a result they would be literally 'brimming with health'.
