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Hi - this is my first post to this forum. After hearing some recent comments by Cory Goode regarding the very few numbers of humans that are ready for ascension,  I have a few questions about being a wanderer, or souls that have been called here to help humanity.

My questions are: What is the destiny of the wanderers after the 'Ascension' happens? I am asking because I feel that we came here to help others, but because of the denseness and difficulty and distortions of the planetary world, we have been pulled down into lower vibration and may end up recycling at a 3rd density level. Is this possible?

I read this in the "Brown notebook": "the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest." If there are few that will ascend, how can we talk about planetary ascension, when most humans are not ready to ascend, and will simply be recycled back to 3rd density worlds? and will the wanderers get sucked back into the downward spiral because we have failed in our mission to help humanity ascend?

Finally, is it possible that events that will unfold in the near future will give humanity an opportunity to demonstrate love and kindness to others, ahead of the 'ascension' event that is called 'the harvesting, so that more will be able to ascend? This would seem to be fair, that humans will be given an opportunity to become more loving, something that is denied by the present circumstances where people are kept in ignorance of their true nature? This will mean that there will be a very difficult time for humanity, between the 'earth changes' and the 'ascension', to allow for soul progression.

I had an important dream where a 'messenger' came to my house. He said it had been his house previously, and now i would be safe there 'for the next 20 years, where you will witness the transformation of the world and the ascension of humanity'. I am beginning to see that these are 2 separate events - earth changes that will end the mass control systems, and the ascension that happens when humanity has had an opportunity to demonstrate true love.

(02-08-2017, 08:04 PM)Max Desorgher Wrote: [ -> ]My questions are: What is the destiny of the wanderers after the 'Ascension' happens? I am asking because I feel that we came here to help others, but because of the denseness and difficulty and distortions of the planetary world, we have been pulled down into lower vibration and may end up recycling at a 3rd density level. Is this possible?

From what I've gathered from the more evolved around here, the polarity of Wanderers is generally of such intensity that a single incarnation will have the same impact as a hair dryer in a snowstorm. That is reassuring for everybody, because it means that your eternal destiny does not rest solely on the outcome of this one measly little lifetime!

Another thing is that even the idea of karma and being 'pulled back' to third density is an illusion. You are not forced to do anything. I think sometimes people (myself especially) anthropomorphize karma as an external deity entity, basically relabeling the Christian God - 'Karma' as a 'God of Justice.'

Basically, when you die, it's all up to you what to do from there, no strings attached. You're free. You're always free, actually, but we don't know it (because we chose to forget that little detail).

(02-08-2017, 08:04 PM)Max Desorgher Wrote: [ -> ]I read this in the "Brown notebook": "the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest." If there are few that will ascend, how can we talk about planetary ascension, when most humans are not ready to ascend, and will simply be recycled back to 3rd density worlds? and will the wanderers get sucked back into the downward spiral because we have failed in our mission to help humanity ascend?

I do wonder this as well, that if Wanderers "fail" in their mission, then what? Are we punished for not being strong enough to raise the vibration of a heavily distorted planet? Probably not. I just feel like Infinite Love doesn't maliciously punish. More than that, I feel like Infinite Love doesn't just let a giant community of advanced entities fall back into ignorance and despair for eons because the task was too hard for us. That would be like a loving father who callously abandons his eager sons after they struggle to carry out the challenging workload of a respectable university.

I really wonder about that. How does anybody speak of fourth density transition when, as Ra said, much of Earth is still in orange-ray? How the hell do we transition to fourth density challenges when we are still being faced with THIRD density challenges?

(02-08-2017, 08:04 PM)Max Desorgher Wrote: [ -> ]I had an important dream where a 'messenger' came to my house. He said it had been his house previously, and now i would be safe there 'for the next 20 years, where you will witness the transformation of the world and the ascension of humanity'. I am beginning to see that these are 2 separate events - earth changes that will end the mass control systems, and the ascension that happens when humanity has had an opportunity to demonstrate true love.

Man, this is a huge blessing. I envy you, that you were granted the privilege of direct communication with a guide/spirit helper. And such a great message, too. ("You'll be safe in your house as the world transforms") Damn! I desire to hear that message. In fact that is a future I have been visualizing and fantasizing about: me, living independently, in a house in relative seclusion, in a forest, with a piano, where I can live out my days expanding my consciousness through meditation, music, and marijuana.

Great post, your questions are all extremely relevant to what I'm thinking about subconsciously. I'm feeling imbalanced in the old chakras right now, so excuse any instability in tone.

The only things that could potentially hold me back is drinking alcohol and my perverted thoughts and looking at porn.

70.15 Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?
Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration

12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?
Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

(02-08-2017, 08:04 PM)Max Desorgher Wrote: [ -> ]Hi - this is my first post to this forum. After hearing some recent comments by Cory Goode regarding the very few numbers of humans that are ready for ascension,  I have a few questions about being a wanderer, or souls that have been called here to help humanity.

My questions are: What is the destiny of the wanderers after the 'Ascension' happens? I am asking because I feel that we came here to help others, but because of the denseness and difficulty and distortions of the planetary world, we have been pulled down into lower vibration and may end up recycling at a 3rd density level. Is this possible?

I read this in the "Brown notebook": "the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest." If there are few that will ascend, how can we talk about planetary ascension, when most humans are not ready to ascend, and will simply be recycled back to 3rd density worlds? and will the wanderers get sucked back into the downward spiral because we have failed in our mission to help humanity ascend?

Finally, is it possible that events that will unfold in the near future will give humanity an opportunity to demonstrate love and kindness to others, ahead of the 'ascension' event that is called 'the harvesting, so that more will be able to ascend? This would seem to be fair, that humans will be given an opportunity to become more loving, something that is denied by the present circumstances where people are kept in ignorance of their true nature? This will mean that there will be a very difficult time for humanity, between the 'earth changes' and the 'ascension', to allow for soul progression.

I had an important dream where a 'messenger' came to my house. He said it had been his house previously, and now i would be safe there 'for the next 20 years, where you will witness the transformation of the world and the ascension of humanity'. I am beginning to see that these are 2 separate events - earth changes that will end the mass control systems, and the ascension that happens when humanity has had an opportunity to demonstrate true love.

Hello Max!
It is possible that souls will find the need to repeat third density again, definitely. Imo, it's quite clear if one looks around him at the world that most people aren't ready. But ever increasing numbers are awakening and becoming ready. All incarnate have the potential to graduate.

It's not known whither we shall go after the ascension process. We will determine that at the soul level with our higher self at the time, but it's unknown to say right now.

The planetary ascension is happening because it's the time for planet earth to shift to fourth density. The cosmic cycles are like a clock face and we have hit the number 4. We have had a complete third density master cycle, 3 terms of 25,000 years. Even still, most people are not ready. Why is that? Very good question to ask yourself, the investigation will lead you to answer these questions. But Earth is place where third density repeaters have come. So the souls here have repeated third density before. How many cycles of third density does it take to graduate? Don didn't ask this question in the Law of One.

Wanderers must meet the same criteria as a 3D native. we are not here to change the world or to save it. We are here to love it. Also one might consider wanderers service to the planet rather than the people. The people only accept so much help or service, Gaia needs the help as she is birthing a new earth.

The opportunity as you say of developing loving kindness and polarity is right now. The Logos is already giving us the extra time because so many are awakening and doing the great work. We can lead a horse to water but we can't make him drink.

We transform the world by changing ourselves.

I forgot to add in my opinion lol.

I think many over think this harvest thing. As wanderers, you've already achieved the most important task which was to remember by way of the Law of One. Though this task has been accomplished, it does have a certain level of responsibility attached to it.

This worry over being worthy that some exhibit can potentially point to an underlying orange ray imbalance hinting at a lack of self-acceptance. This lack of Acceptance or feeling of unworthiness tends to create a feeling of worry over whether one is good enough to become harvested backed to its home density.

 One doesn't need to have a Major Impact upon the world to become positively polarized. Remember, that we are already ahead of the game due to our positive polarization prior to incarnating here. This positive polarization requires quite the negative actions to destabilize one to the point of either repeating third density or switching polarities and following the path of the negative.

With that said, one still incarnates with lessons to be learned. Lessons that must be confronted and solved based upon whatever biases one has preprogrammed. These biases may be difficult to uncover or solve due to the uncomfortable nature of this density compared to one's home density. This difficulty arises due to the confusion that one experiences based upon the perceived disharmony of this world. A perception that this world isn't quite right. But this perception is exactly why one has chosen this service and this service cannot be properly executed without work upon the self.

That's why I firmly believe that work upon the self once remembering has occurred is the most important task one can concentrate upon. Even though the wanderer has become aware of its purpose, one still has imbalances to work through. One still must find the way towards the green ray so that it may be that Steward of light. Without the balancing of the lower energy centers, The Wanderer, I believe, is at the same evolutionary level as a third density native. Even though the Wanderer has a leg up on the competition so to say from its knowledge, it cannot apply what it has remembered until such balance has been achieved.

So in conclusion, try not to worry about what Will Come.  Attempt to focus upon what is Here and Now. You are here in the trenches of this heavy and confusing density. Ask yourself what is needed of you to be that steward towards others and how can one work upon the self to enable that light to shine through

(02-09-2017, 10:41 AM)Jeremy Wrote: [ -> ]One still must find the way towards the green ray so that it may be that Steward of light.

Thanks Jeremy. I didn't understand these concepts of the 'green ray' and the 'Steward of light'. Can you expand on those? balancing the lower Chakras is a major challenge and it is easy to get pulled down into addiction and escapism, or self-hatred and regret. I have had many experiences and messages that have shown me that my path is different to the vast majority on this planet, and yet the question of 'what am I here to do' still bugs me, even though I heard Dolores Cannon saying that we just have to hold the light - we are here to assist the earth go through these changes. We are not really here to change the destiny of humanity, which is already written for the most part. I just can't get over how few people I have found that i can even talk to about these things.

Hmm I'm guessing you haven't read the books?

I'm very hesitant explaining basic concepts such as this not because I don't wish to. It's more about finding ones personal path within the material and to potentially infringe upon ones initial understanding and impact of the material, I feel its best to defer you to the material itself.

I firmly believe that this material presents itself according ones path and that one picks out certain aspects of it intended bring about a personal evolution of the self.

I will say that the green ray coincides with the energy centers found within ones self like kundalini of you've heard of it.

Being a steward is being an example, a guide, or one who walks the walk so to speak. This light is the manifested form of love from the logos and thus the Creator itself.

(02-09-2017, 01:11 PM)Jeremy Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm I'm guessing you haven't read the books?

I have read so much in my life, and I understand the green ray as the balancing ray, or the ray of healing. No I haven't read through all of the 'Law of One' series yet, so the concept of steward of light is new to me.

31.5 "The green ray is one of complete universality of love. This is a giving without expectation of return."

63.25 "At full activation of the true-color green density of love the planetary sphere will be solid and inhabitable upon its own and the birthing that takes place will have been transformed through the process of time"

So this means that we are birthing a 4th density planet of love, and that only beings in 4th density, or green ray and above will be able to inhabit this planet.

I also found this interesting. Quo Wrote: "The harvest has already begun. It began in your year 1987 in that period called “Harmonic Convergence.” Entities began being harvested when they died from the physical at that time. All were offered the steps of light. Many of those you now call “Indigo Children” are those who have graduated from Planet Earth in the positive sense, have now gone on to acquaint themselves with their new fourth-density homes and have asked for permission to return to third density as wanderers."

(02-09-2017, 01:50 AM)sjel Wrote: [ -> ]I do wonder this as well, that if Wanderers "fail" in their mission, then what? Are we punished for not being strong enough to raise the vibration of a heavily distorted planet? Probably not.

I think mission is really just a fancy name for a distortion toward something. Anyone's "mission" is self given.

So what happens if you failed in expressing a distortion of your own? Well it's still there requiring to be expressed somewhen within your infinity.

(02-09-2017, 01:11 PM)Jeremy Wrote: [ -> ]I firmly believe that this material presents itself according ones path and that one picks out certain aspects of it intended bring about a personal evolution of the self.

I like this a lot. I know I've got to do another read through eventually, because the first time I was completely naive about anything spiritual. Sometimes someone will quote Ra and I legitimately don't remember that concept. My spiritually undeveloped mind was unwittingly cherry-picking the parts that were important to me.

Also I agree, you gotta read through the Law of One Max, it's the central basis for my life now even though I haven't really studied it past that first read through and occasional excerpt meditation. (btw not saying 'everyone must read this' I'm saying that since you are asking questions that are beautifully and penetratingly articulated in this literary treasure, you should definitely read through it.)

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Also I agree, you gotta read through the Law of One Max
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Thanks for the advice, but I really don't have to do anything. It's an enormous 5 volume book, and I just don't have the energy anymore to read something like that from beginning to end. Everything I've heard and read from the Law of One simply confirms what I've always known, so it is just like reading my own thoughts.

What I am doing, is writing my 'Wanderer testimony' for the L/L Research institute. That seems a more valuable use of my remaining vitality.

Max