How can anything be impossible for reality?
Reality is absolutely groundless.
Reality is an infinite regress of infinite regresses in infinite dimensions with no limit.
Reality is a groundless infinite singularity.
(Note he says the F word a few times and mentions porn once.)
Pondering that we both exist and don't exist makes me not really care anymore. Means I don't really worry.
I am Infinity. Nothing can touch me.
Oh, but I still have an ego. And that ego gets scared. If I ever face violence, I probably will be concerned.
I both love and don't love, because what does it matter?
I could see how one could feel that way. In the end we are all that there is. So The self is all that exists at any moment. The emotion like the gazing eternally at the souls reflection. For me it seems so much deeper then anything(everything) to be meaningless. I can feel the warm rush of love, and the want(will) for everything to be ok, and it is. In the peace and power of the infinite one.
I believe that infinity isn't so much about "everything possible is happening" as much as I relate to understanding it as the nature of The Creator. So if everything/anything is happening it is due to the mind of the creator, and the nature of it. I think, as a human, it is remeniale to try and function with the paradigm of true infinity.
When's the last time you were lost in a moment? Were all mental capacity was lost, and you were purely one with the moment?
I think the Logos is more like a singularity. Infinity is more like an ocean of gravity and profundity.
nothingness must also be included in infinity.
(07-17-2017, 11:10 PM)Henosis Wrote: [ -> ]I think the Logos is more like a singularity. Infinity is more like an ocean of gravity and profundity.
The Logos as a singularity is correct, I think. Free Will acting upon infinite Love manifests Light, the Logos, through which the physical and metaphysical universe is born; the Big Bang, the point of singularity, the Logos. Infinite intelligence is before all of this. It is incomprehensible and unknowable, at least for us right now in a veiled human mind. Q'uo says the mystery is ever before them. Always receding as they walk further. I don't think one "knows" until one fully "is" as a perfect and complete 8th density being / total reunification with the Infinite One.
Reality is beyond our conceptualization of it. This is the Great Mystery of the Creator.
(07-17-2017, 11:10 PM)Henosis Wrote: [ -> ]I think the Logos is more like a singularity. Infinity is more like an ocean of gravity and profundity.
By definition, there can only be 'one' infinity.
However, the catch is that infinity must have everything contained in itself - this means it must be multiples, along with also being 'singular'. These must exist in perfect harmony and balance inside infinity.
Thus, in any case, the concept of 'one' or 'singular' becomes inapplicable to infinity. Similarly, 'many' or 'multiple' as well. Both of them apply equally at the same time, meaning the application meaningless.
(07-20-2017, 05:04 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ]By definition, there can only be 'one' infinity.
However, the catch is that infinity must have everything contained in itself - this means it must be multiples, along with also being 'singular'. These must exist in perfect harmony and balance inside infinity.
Thus, in any case, the concept of 'one' or 'singular' becomes inapplicable to infinity. Similarly, 'many' or 'multiple' as well. Both of them apply equally at the same time, meaning the application meaningless.
Any concept eventually evaporates, or dissolves, completely if one tries to push it too far outside the containers of human understanding and into the mystery. "Ineffable" becomes a helpful word when at the frontiers.
I enjoyed your thought about the "balance inside infinity" nonetheless.
Another fun semantic headgame is the plural "infinite universes":
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=u...0&l=30&o=r
IndigoGeminiWolf, contemplator of infinity, a recommendation for you. The greatest essays I've ever ever read on non-duality come from Ken Wilber. They include:
--"The Brilliant Clarity of Ever-Present Awareness"
--"One Without A Second"
--And his introduction to
Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
The first two are available in his book [edit:
The Simple Feeling of Being]
, though they can probably be located elsewhere, including in my book bag where they have a permanent home.
Those three essays may have equals somewhere on our planet, but I have yet to encounter them. Though there
are certainly much, much more pithy expressions.
Tao te Ching comes to mind.
(07-20-2017, 05:49 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: [ -> ]Any concept eventually evaporates, or dissolves, completely if one tries to push it too far outside the containers of human understanding and into the mystery. "Ineffable" becomes a helpful word when at the frontiers.
Well, i didnt want to go there, but the reality of the matter is that due to its nature, contemplating or talking about infinity is pointless, because everything inside it cancels out every opposing concept, and it is a total equilibrium which is totally inert and irrelevant to anything that is 'outside'. (or inside, for that matter).
We sure can talk about from the point which infinity becomes intelligent infinity by gaining potential. That, is the closest thing to infinity, yet, still not infinite because it is differentiated from infinity by gaining potential, despite being infinite in every other way...
Quote:Another fun semantic headgame is the plural "infinite universes":
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=u...0&l=30&o=r
indeed so, this may be a good exercise:
If we consider "infinite universes" as a 'state' which is heaven knows how many levels below infinity, then it becomes easier to understand.
Infinite universes are infinite in every aspect except what they have been separated from. Like how infinite intelligence is infinite in every aspect, but having potential, hence being differentiated from infinity.
This also would mean that both intelligent infinity and infinite universes (and any concept in between) have their complementing counterparts which bring them closer to infinity.
So, whenever intelligent infinity (which has potential) merges with 'un'intelligent infinity (which has lack of potential), then they combine into infinity, going up one level and becoming totally infinite, and totally irrelevant for any purpose related to us.
Similarly, on the much lower level, infinite universes combine with whatever their complementing counterpart is, and go up one level towards infinity to whichever level is above theirs.
(07-20-2017, 05:57 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: [ -> ]IndigoGeminiWolf, contemplator of infinity, a recommendation for you. The greatest essays I've ever ever read on non-duality come from Ken Wilber. They include:
--"The Brilliant Clarity of Ever-Present Awareness"
--"One Without A Second"
--And his introduction to Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
The first two are available in his book One Taste, though they can probably be located elsewhere, including in my book bag where they have a permanent home.
Those three essays may have equals somewhere on our planet, but I have yet to encounter them. Though there are certainly much, much more pithy expressions. Tao te Ching comes to mind.
Thanks GLB. I ordered
One Taste.
It actually didn't click for me before that nonduality was Infinity.
(07-20-2017, 09:43 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks GLB. I ordered One Taste.
It actually didn't click for me before that nonduality was Infinity.
s***! I'm sorry! I just realized that
One Taste is the wrong book. That one is the least interesting I've read of his, just a daily journal of sorts. The book that contains those essays is
The Simple Feeling of Being.
My apologies. I hope that you can cancel before it's shipped.
He doesn't really get into cosmic dissolution as I see when I cross paths with your posts, but he speaks to the groundless ground and gives the English language all its got in trying to convey that this, exactly this, is
it.
Ok, I'll have to wait and see if they can cancel it, or if I can catch the mailman to return it.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll order it later once the other one is taken care of.
I have a few other books to read first anyway.
Thanks GLB. I just ordered your new recommendation after I cancelled the first. I find myself reading parts of one book before jumping to another, and then going back to the original book after a bit.
Here is part 2.
Some of what he covers:
Georg Cantor Set Theory
Infinite Sets
Different sizes of infinity (infinite sizes of infinity)
Infinity of Infinities = Absolute Infinity = God
God is holographically within in every subset
Trying to conceptualize infinity can drive you insane
Everything is infinitely divisible
Law of One
No end to yourselves or your seeking
(07-20-2017, 07:51 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ]Well, i didnt want to go there, but the reality of the matter is that due to its nature, contemplating or talking about infinity is pointless, because everything inside it cancels out every opposing concept, and it is a total equilibrium which is totally inert and irrelevant to anything that is 'outside'. (or inside, for that matter).
Jup. You're facing total paradox when you start plumbing deeply. Mutually exclusive opposites that are both true and/or not true. But true. But they can't be.
So I think it's helpful to surrender the necessity of understanding, or the conceit that one is going to solve or capture or contain the mystery through reasoning and conceptualization.
But, with that attitude, I don't think it's strictly "pointless" to contemplate, consider, or talk about "infinity." The exercises futility, actually, opens the self to the possibility of mystery, wonder, and transcendence.
(07-20-2017, 07:51 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Another fun semantic headgame is the plural "infinite universes":
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=u...0&l=30&o=r
indeed so, this may be a good exercise:
If we consider "infinite universes" as a 'state' which is heaven knows how many levels below infinity, then it becomes easier to understand.
Infinite universes are infinite in every aspect except what they have been separated from. Like how infinite intelligence is infinite in every aspect, but having potential, hence being differentiated from infinity.
This also would mean that both intelligent infinity and infinite universes (and any concept in between) have their complementing counterparts which bring them closer to infinity.
So, whenever intelligent infinity (which has potential) merges with 'un'intelligent infinity (which has lack of potential), then they combine into infinity, going up one level and becoming totally infinite, and totally irrelevant for any purpose related to us.
Similarly, on the much lower level, infinite universes combine with whatever their complementing counterpart is, and go up one level towards infinity to whichever level is above theirs.
Very interesting. Makes some "sense" to my cognitive capacity. Though the concept of levels, parts, pieces, fragments, differentiation, etc., all comes undone in actual infinity: there are no boundaries.
Do such levels exist? Do they not exist? Is illusion an illusion? Is illusion actuality? Is everything just infinity?
Ramana Maharshi said that illusion is illusory.
(07-21-2017, 05:29 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks GLB. I just ordered your new recommendation after I cancelled the first. I find myself reading parts of one book before jumping to another, and then going back to the original book after a bit.
Glad it worked out! I have such limited time for reading, to my eternal consternation, but I get so book hungry I start one, open another, then another, the original falls by the wayside . . .
Audiobooks are very helpful in this regard. Though I've been enjoying silence lately while driving.
(07-17-2017, 11:23 PM)crimson Wrote: [ -> ]nothingness must also be included in infinity.
Or rather you must say.
"Reality has to be proven to be a field of connecting-fractals going on and on .. mandelbrot i finity...quantum nonsense spoken by Leo.
Until you don't,
Nothingness is just the space between objects and reality is ultimately finite. And the absolute is ultimately whatever you think the relative is.
It is not infinity that is important, (but), to live in the moment. The infinity of infinities is only an abstract concept. The moment is NOW and anything else is only speculation. Or, every decision and action that we make, can produce an infinite possibilities regarding the result. To observe the abstract is only a probable outcome, (which does not exist). The infinity only exists when it becomes the moment. We can imagine that time is infinite to a point beyond our comprehension, (and yet), it is a meaningless point. What happens in a billion, ten billion, one hundred billion or a trillion years from now is beyond our comprehension. It does not exist. It is better to live in the NOW, (and to live). Exist as the I AM. I AM UNIVERSAL and ETERNAL. I AM the REFLECTION of the Ra, and the Law of One.