(08-04-2017, 10:32 AM)Steppingfeet Wrote: [ -> ]Now, if you can clear, activate, crystallize, purify, and initiate your self to such an extent that you dissolve all illusions and become One Who Has Stopped (aka: buddha), you can walk the universe as you see fit.
Yes. That's the goal.
It's been done before. The requisite information is floating around in the ether.
If the attitude you take on that subject is hang your head and say "For your purposes and mine, it simply is not possible", then no offense, but I don't have much use for your advice. I'm absolutely determined.
"Love/accept" is reserved for the few, "control/manipulate" reserved for the many. Not to say that I don't value empathy or kindness, but this is a very STS-polarized sphere, and even the so-called good guys are a bunch of scumbags. They single people like me out to make themselves feel better, but there are very, very few people both spiritually advanced and very positive here, I'm thinking. Negativity is more efficient i general, though can be discarded when necessary.
I'm not even sure if it's really so difficult if you put your mind to it with 100% determination. When was the last time you gave up your goals, ambitions, housing, social responsibilities, friends, job, and everything else and just focused 100% on spiritual development? The problem is that we are distracted.
And also that things are standing in our way, but the whole point of this thread is that I need to find a way around whatever's standing in my way, because it's entirely possible, and it's my only option. Most people stop when they come up against a wall. "The chances are miniscule, they'll hurt you/lock you up/kill your family/destroy your life opportunities", and all other manner of things designed to scare and manipulate the weak and the sane.
(08-04-2017, 10:35 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: [ -> ]The way I interpret the material, all harvest is the harvesting of oneself. The "systematic planetary harvest" is not some event in which entities come and pull us away to then be placed in another location. Sure, Ra mentions "harvesters" who help with the process, but at the heart of what they describe, it is the self that determines the most appropriate environment for growth of the self. When a planet is harvested, it is because that planet enters an environment/configuration that offers an opportunity for the self to evaluate the self and then choose the best environment for learning. For instance, the harvest of Earth from 3rd to 4th density is because Earth is entering a 4th-density environment. Those who evaluate themselves as being able to learn in a 4D+ environment will choose to stay. Those who cannot learn in a 4D+ environment will evaluate the self as needing another environment to learn in.
4D+ sounds great to me, but this planet's either going in a profoundly positive or a profoundly negative direction... If the former, that's great, but we're still a long way off; I'm an edgelord and distorted towards a childlike mindset, which is fine, and I could easily polarize positively without hurting anyone if my cookies get left in my jar un-tampered with, but in the meantime, there are lots of angry, selfish, sadistic, vengeful people who, unlike me, are not honest with themselves about those attributes, and think that positivity means hurting people they don't like.
Such people, in turn, can be manipulated by the thoroughly negative for revenge and/or amusement purposes, as I've seen. Abhrahamics or post-Abrahamics who focus on distortions that are entirely unimportant.
Or even those who just don't think spiritual development should be afforded to anyone who doesn't buy into fudamentalist materialism and a totally, or at least primarily, atheistic worldview. Or those who think that "immaturity" is any reason to deny someone spiritual advancement. Like, why the f*** does anyone care if I'm not in sync with the average rage of thoughtforms for a particular age group?
I'm not supposed to be in sync. That's part of the LHP. Separation is exactly the s*** I'm trying to do here. If I'm not developing in a completely ab-"normal" manner, I'm not doing my job right.
As long as I'm not raping and killing people, I should be allowed to do what I want.
To wit: Would-be positive people on this sphere are too retarded, confused, and discordant to let somebody like me polarize in peace.
Most of the negative potential I see on this planet is, well... In Ra's words, it apes positivity. Look at the transhumanist movement with its promises of wonderful technology, virtual reality, transcendence of limitation, manual labor jobs taken by robots, and a salary for every human just for being alive! A planet where humans can learn, play, develop, create, expand! That's a society I could respect, one I'd even hel out with, except...
I look at people like Ray Kurzweil, who proudly proclaim with pastey-faced grins that, "Within 30 years, all of our thinking will be doe in the cloud! No one will ever have to think for themselves again - it will all be done for you, by technology! Isn't that wonderful?"
And who fund technology designed to police and control thoughts and even human DNA in order to remove the potential for true spiritual development.
There's a very dark side to this agenda.
And the openly dark side of it is about framing people and punishing them because of a sadistic power fetish.
Huxley for the masses, Orwell for the dissenters.
So, overall, what's my best option here? Go it alone and fight my way out. Prepare an etheric concoction to enter their system and corrode it if they just try to throw me back into the astral blender. Fight fight fight, unless I'm afforded what I need to survive and prosper.
Quote:There is another type of "harvesting oneself" that you are probably referring to in which an entity is able to be harvested without the natural process of the planet entering the environment where harvest is available to everyone. For instance, Ra says, "Penetration into the eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle." And, "The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience." (The next octave of experience here has been interpreted as either the next density or the next major octave. I think it means the next density considering the entities Ra describes as doing this went to 4th density.)
This would probably require prolonged and intense spiritual work, polarizing and balancing with extreme dedication, probably over many lifetimes. In my interpretation, it is far surpassing the typical bar for "normal" harvestability. Ra seems to imply that an entity who achieves this through positive polarization will likely choose not to leave anyways due to their desire to stay and serve others on the planet. Apparently three negative adepts have harvested themselves in this manner, all having experience in spiritual teachings in Atlantis, implying many lifetimes of spiritual learning.
To achieve this level on the positive path world require forgiveness, no matter how intense or inconceivable.
You do mention planes of healing. These are available to all entities in between lifetimes for as long as one needs to heal. It seems to me, though, that from the perspective of time/space between incarnations, the healing results in a desire to return to incarnation to help balance those distortions that likely necessitated the healing to begin with.
Well, I'm not trying to achieve it on one path or another, just by any means necessary. If I can walk on out without conflict, that's preferable. If I have to drop a hydrogen bomb on a hospital full of babies, so be it. Desperation is the name of the game here.
To be fair, you admit that positives who reach this level usually opt to stay anyways, and the negative path has very few accomplished sorcerers compared to the number of lackies and dropouts, doubly so when considering that efficient use of catalyst is extreme rare. So it's probably easier that "only three people have done it" makes it sound. Probably still kinda grueling, but well within the realm of possibility.
But there must be some technical information and/or shortcuts available to allow someone to progress without reinventing every wheel. That's why I ask for help and information; this will probably be exponentially easier if I manage to see from the shoulders of those who have gone before.
Perhaps if I learn to use catalyst totally efficiently, not for the purposes of fulfilling ego desires or for serving the state, but purely for spiritual development, I can do this. I'm actually sure I can do this if I learn to use catalyst efficiently; the difficulty is building the necessary level of discipline.
But if I manage to climb the walls in front of me, I'll already be somewhat close, considering that they're damn big walls.
(08-04-2017, 11:50 AM)Rybo Wrote: [ -> ]Little changes make a big difference. In my darkest days, super-negative, loud, dark rock music was all I listened to. I researched evil conspiracy theories ad nauseum. I watched bleak movies. In short, I filled my mind with negativity. Slowly, and I mean slowly, I started adding in uplifting music and art and information. And life changed.
That sounds terrible. Life changed? So now you're sitting here typing on LOO?
For me, it's nothing to do with music or movies or pornography or anything else. Flavors and unimportant distortions, all.
Certain emotional traumas are not going to be healed, probably, and I made them specifically so that I could enter a state of infinite pain in which progression was the only option. And here we are.
And people are trying to "fix" me by breaking everyehing worthwhile I have and molding me into a box. "Go to therapy, take medications, watch Rick & Morty so you can be implanted with thoughtforms that worship the STS scientific establishment as a new religion."
f*** that.
And nothing is more DISGUSTING than "hope". I've learned there's no point to that emotion. Worst of all things that came out of Pandora's box, principally because it tricks people into believing it isn't a curse at all.
No, I'll never "hope".
I *am* asking for help. That's all I'm doing. But not help in changing my musical tastes to something more mainstream, or help in getting a foothold in mundane society, or help in how to meekly "accept and forgive and move on". I'm asking for help spiritually and etherically, help trasceding the illusion and developing spiritually.
No, I don't have to become a good slobbering little obedient puppy dog mundane on a leash for that to happen; that's a trap. I'm here to build a mind and a spirit, not a state. When my needs are met, then I'll gladly attend to the needs of others and society.
(08-04-2017, 06:37 PM)Nicholas Wrote: [ -> ]That question hit me right in my gut. Suddenly I realised that I could no longer justify my behaviour based upon my past. After all, Mahakali, our past only exists within the domain of our own minds, right? At what point in our lives do we take up the opportunity to claim responsibility for our own dramas?
Don't know, don't care.
In my case, I was possessed by some probably very high-level negative astral entities and maipulated into doing some very evil things. I'm sorry for some of the things that happened, but I'm not going to allow others to make me feel responsible for people who were hurt or relationships that were ruined while I was demonically possessed. If anyone should be beating me up for those things, it should be me, and I forgive myself for some of it.
Whatever was possessing me certainly took care to conceal itself, so maybe nobody believes me, but I don't care; it's the truth, and if you (I'm speaking to everyone here) don't believe me, you can go f*** yourself; I'm not here to convince you of anything.
I do take responsibility for things that are entirely my fault - little white lies, failures of character and responsibility (most, not all, of them minor), and a good deal of selfishness, but most of those things I can even forgive myself for, and are utterly irrelevant to spiritual progression.
When I say "practicality", I mean things in terms of energy, geometry, movement, wisdom, understanding of the laws of the universe and evolution. Not mundane bullshit and situations.
All guilt, hubris, fetishes, convoluted thought-patterns, counterproductive emotions and such will melt away ALL ON THEIR OWN once I get what I'm aiming for, and it's absolutely the most direct and surefire way to do so. Like I said, completely unimportant distortions.
