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We know that Confederation's members channeled by L/L Research have a terminology some different of the traditional esoteric and occultists sources. Some examples are the concepts of density, STO and STS, social memory complex, intelligent infinity, Harvest, etc.

I know other sources with this terminology:

"The Prism of Lyra" by Lyssa Royal
"The Extraterrestrial Vision' and "ET Contact" by Gina Lake
"The Teachings for the Fourth Density Aquarian" by Chief Little Summer

Do you know other sources with this terminology?

And, I wondering if this particular terminology is a signal of the more accurate informations avaible in the write and speech language. Because this concept of densities make much more sense than the seven planes for example. What you think?

Yes I agree with you about the accuracy of the language used. Ra is a sixth density social memory complex. They don’t use words, only when necessary, such as when working with third density entities. Therefore, when Ra is speaking they are using words to their maximum capacity. Ra’s language is packed full of information at many different levels of understanding. A simple statement can have profound meaning. To me this speaks of the spiritual maturity of the speaker. One truly knows what they are talking about. The eloquence is stark in contrast to other channeled material. (Negatives can speak beautifully as well. But Ra is not negative and I think that’s pretty clear from the material. Look to the heart of the message.)

Usually upon reading the Ra Material people have a hard time with the language. I did for a while, but eventually it all starts falling into place, and one sees the accuracy of the terminology. Ra doesn’t call people “people”, rather “mind body and spirit complexes” which actually is far more accurate to say than a person.

I have heard others use the Confederation terminology, and I assume that the use of it was influenced by the Ra material; whether people have read it or not, the terminology tends to be more accurate so other want to use it. That’s a positive thing, imo.

(12-10-2017, 10:05 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: [ -> ]I have heard others use the Confederation terminology, and I assume that the use of it was influenced by the Ra material; whether people have read it or not, the terminology tends to be more accurate so other want to use it. That’s a positive thing, imo.

With exception of the last book I mentioned (which have the "Law of One" books in the reccomend bibliography) the others are pure channelings.

And about this "I have heard others use the Confederation terminology", can you quote them?

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Vid ca. May 2011 -- see http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w05.htm

The "Service-to-Others Zetas" (as they call themselves) use a bipolar spiritual-orientation scheme when discoursing about this, that, and the other; they operate under the local galactic oversight of a "Council of Worlds", all according to a paradigm in which reality is a grand unified neutral One comprising assorted sub-dimensions and densities chock-full of striving/conniving souls, all busily interacting every which way to Sunday via interactions ranging from small-group-dynamics a la Moe, Larry, and Curley up to en masse surgings in mighty intergalactically-reaching empires -- each unit at whatever level with its own idiosyncratically-varied intent, be it good/bad/indifferent. . .  sound familiar? A sampling of their views here, as channeled by "free-range nutbar"* Mme Nancy Lieder:
"Orientations" http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o00.htm
"Yes, There Are Rules" http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0907.htm
"Rules" http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r00.htm

Note: this is very controversial channeled material (mainly because it presents a model of near-future Earth history in which pretty awful things happen, and the Zetas confess to be professionally-neutral non-warm-'n'-fuzzy non-white-knights operating mostly in an informative advisorial capacity). Of course their somewhat austere and daunting narrative is roundly dismissed by any "respectable" source you care to sample, from the international scientific and governmental official organizations all the way down to everyday-Joes who are nuttier than even you are about having the Inside Scoop on scheming aliens 'n' metaphysical revelations 'n' esoteric rays 'n' such. Some of this opposition is well-taken, as it addresses logical-seeming-flies-in-the-prophetic-ointment, but then again much of it is of the methinks-they-doth-protest-too-much kind of conditioned reflex. Overall, pretty interesting and official-consensus-reality-challenging. 

* See https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/ZetaTalk. Also, for a good time debunking, see, e.g., http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=534 and http://www.americanloons.blogspot.com/20...ieder.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm
(But keep in mind what the usual skeptic sources think about the Ra Material!: http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25205 and note the feeding frenzy of the hyper-rationalists when some innocent babe-in-the-wood dares to speak less than savagely against the material -- blood in the water! The intrepid truth-seeker Bethenny gazed unflinchingly into these murky waters not so long ago in this thread: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12478 , having had some personal experience swimming in such a shark-infested pool: http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...&start=240 Many cheers to her!)



 Random fathead on 2018 Harley Fat Bob -- US$18.7K takes it away! 

  First contact in Mexico -- God help us, they have their own ground-ranging mobile mechanized gangs!!

"The Extraterrestrial Vision" someone recommended this to me a while ago and I read it, and enjoyed it very much. Theodore's language seemed quite casual, also Theodore referred to the 6th density as the casual plane. The language does not seem 6th density-ish in the sense that it's not nearly as loaded as Ra's, not that I have a problem with it being casual. They did mention, and I quote /They are so advanced that they can understand you and interact with you—an entirely alien race—on your terms!/ so it's possible that they actually bothered to put some effort into speaking the way we do, which would be interesting. I enjoyed the psychological analysis part very much.

I have not seriously thought about this unified terminology thing but I did notice it. It's definitely an interesting subject to ponder.

(12-10-2017, 01:47 PM)Infinite Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2017, 10:05 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: [ -> ]I have heard others use the Confederation terminology, and I assume that the use of it was influenced by the Ra material; whether people have read it or not, the terminology tends to be more accurate so other want to use it. That’s a positive thing, imo.

With exception of the last book I mentioned (which have the "Law of One" books in the reccomend bibliography) the others are pure channelings.

And about this "I have heard others use the Confederation terminology", can you quote them?

Ohh, okay I get what you’re saying now. Even so, pure channeled material is at least somewhat influenced by the mind of the channel (if it’s conscious telepathic channeling). Looking at the L/L archives, the terminology is mostly the same even with various channelers, but there is a unique “coloring” by the mind of the individual serving as a channel.
Or maybe the veil is thinning and more people are in contact with Confederation entities who are using confederation terminology because of its accuracy, like you said.

I can’t give you quotes because I’ve only heard the terminology used here and there. Concepts and words are borrowed. I will keep an eye out though!

Well, I have been studying the UFO movement history and I find that the term "density" is much older than LOO. In a publication* from 1957 the term density was used. The source is a group of Mark Probert (mentioned by Ra).

Thus, I don't think is possible determine what channel firstly used some terms of Ra, but this indicates that the afterwar ET contact initiated by Confederation must be the reason of these terms had suddenly appeared in many channels (there is another source from 1956 using the term). I suppose also that this terminology must have been passed by the Council of Saturn due the fact that Probert was in contact with them.

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*The book is "The Coming of The Guardians" from 1957. Here an interesting stretch:

Quote:The 'vehicle' of an Etherian (whether his body or his 'ship') is thus essentially a thought-form (as our own bodies are also) - and a thoughtform can be 'positioned' anywhere.

Harvest is already mentioned in the NT Bible in the teachings of Jesus. Some examples:

When He saw the crowds, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Then He said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into His harvest.”

Jesus put before them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and slipped away. When the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.
The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
So the servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
‘No,’ he said, ‘if you pull the weeds now, you might uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat into my barn.’”

Jesus also said, “The kingdom of God is like a man who scatters seed on the ground. Night and day he sleeps and wakes, and the seed sprouts and grows, though he knows not how. All by itself the earth produces a crop—first the stalk, then the head, then grain that ripens within. And as soon as the grain is ripe, he swings the sickle, because the harvest has come.”