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Hey guys, for all I know, this may be considered a dumb question, but considering that I'm learning to look at things in terms of energy, frequencies and vibrations, I'm wondering if listening to metal has any negative effects I should know about and how seriously should I take it? I LOVE metal.

Some of my favourite bands aren't exactly positive either.

For example:

Pantera (Favourite album is Vulgar Display of Power, which features a dude getting punched in the face on the front cover and my favourite song off of it is called "Mouth for War")
Nevermore (Prog metal band with a dark sound and mostly depressing/dark lyrics)
Nine Inch Nails (Not a very positive sounding band)
Rob Zombie and White Zombie (both have a lot of surreal horror lyrics and stuff)
Alice in Chains (My mom said they sound like a funeral dirge, just to give you an idea)
Rammstein
Ministry (can get pretty angry/aggressive)

These are just SOME of my favourite bands.

Not to mention I'll listen to some pretty hard hip hop, like NWA.

So does listening to this stuff have a negative effect? Should I be worried? I really love this music, even though I'm becoming more and more positive and the lyrics are becoming less and less relatable.

So what kind of effect (if any) does listening to this kind of music have and what ought I do (if anything) about it?

Thanks in advance,

Nate
I'd say if it uplifts you and doesn't give you violent thoughts, and doesn't bother anyone it should be fine.
I've heard others say otherwise.

If it falls away because of changes in viewpoint, then I wouldn't worry about that either.
I'm learning to let go of things that were once very dear to me.

Usually, I would think that kind of music would energize someone. If it causes you to act positively, then it can't be bad. It's how you interpret it.
The words themselves have the meaning that you give to them.

The Universe has no inherent meaning except what we give to it.
I relate to this a lot, and I think that the music you enjoy is a reflection on the energies in your subconscious mind. I guess you should ask yourself, why is it that these kinds of music resonate with you? There are all kinds of music, each capturing and conveying a certain element of the creator. If you only resonate to distortion and anger, why is that?

I like metalheads, almost always there's a sort of deep longing in them to break free of the mainstream and be true individuals. That's a good thing, even if the music might seem negative.
(04-29-2018, 04:53 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: [ -> ]I relate to this a lot, and I think that the music you enjoy is a reflection on the energies in your subconscious mind. I guess you should ask yourself, why is it that these kinds of music resonate with you? There are all kinds of music, each capturing and conveying a certain element of the creator. If you only resonate to distortion and anger, why is that?

I like metalheads, almost always there's a sort of deep longing in them to break free of the mainstream and be true individuals. That's a good thing, even if the music might seem negative.

Well, I wouldn't say I "only" listen to metal. I just greatly preffer it. I used to be a hip hop head, then I was on the fence, then being in a rap crew made me swingntowards metL. My distortion towards metal is partially because of early influemces, partially because of high school influences, and partially because growing up, I did have a lot of immer negativity I needed to dealmwith and metal seemed like a good outlet and a means of dealing with it. Honestly, as i get older, my musical pallete is becoming more varied and I am getting MORE musically open minded, not less. Still, I love metal. I love headbanging. I love headbanging to kickass riffs. I suppose I could listen to a metal song and like the s*** out of it even if I no longer feel the sentiments. Like when I listen to Rage Against the Machine, but I can mo longer cosign their leftist, anti-captialist bullshit. But I still like listening to their music and Tom orello is still one of my favourite guitarists.

And yeah i have that longing. Thank you for appreciating it Smile

'IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:I'd say if it uplifts you and doesn't give you violent thoughts, and doesn't bother anyone it should be fine.
I've heard others say otherwise.

If it falls away because of changes in viewpoint, then I wouldn't worry about that either.
I'm learning to let go of things that were once very dear to me.

Usually, I would think that kind of music would energize someone. If it causes you to act positively, then it can't be bad. It's how you interpret it.
The words themselves have the meaning that you give to them.

The Universe has no inherent meaning except what we give to it.

So if I like the music, but the negativity of the lyrics or maybe just the overall negativity itself doesn't resonate with me, I should be good? That's relieving.

There is a study which says listening to metal makes you calmer. I do agree that itndoes, quite often.

I also remember my mom pointing out that when you play metal at plants they seem to grow less. Does that indicate something?
I'd say that if it doesn't resonate with you, then there's something to explore within you.
If the negativity doesn't resonate, then maybe it's not for you anymore. Things do change.
We change.
Metal generally tends to have a lot of pent up angst and rage. And in numerous cases (especially some bands) tend to make songs about rage and destruction, 'spectacular' end of the world scenarios (ragnarok etc), or songs that praise and elevate hierarchical schemes of dominance (kings, emperors, lords, warriors). These concepts are negative in their core.

At least this was from the time i listened to metal.
Words can depend. I wrote a book about a positive Warlock.
(04-29-2018, 02:24 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ]Metal generally tends to have a lot of pent up angst and rage. And in numerous cases (especially some bands) tend to make songs about rage and destruction, 'spectacular' end of the world scenarios (ragnarok etc), or songs that praise and elevate hierarchical schemes of dominance (kings, emperors, lords, warriors). These concepts are negative in their core.

At least this was from the time i listened to metal.

Yeah, I know. This is hat has me worried. This and the fact that it's a pretty aggressive and/or dark and/or angry sounding style usually.

Still, it seems I haven't too much to worry about I guess. If I love it I love it. Even if the obsessions with being pissed off and dominant no longer resonates with me.

I guess that's another reason why I've come around so much to Babymetal LOL. It's all the heaviness and badass music I love without the negative polarization I've just gotten so sick of in my life.

They are now one of my all time favourite bands XD I used to think they were just a dumb novelty act. Now I love them!

Still like listening to metal though. It's just wierd because I no longer connect with the negativity. I dunno. I might get less into most of it once I start listening again. Lately, it's all mostly been just binaural beats and s***. Not much music lately...

I wanna learn guitar too. Wonder what effect my recent changes in life will have on that.

God, I've changed so much in such a short amount of time, lifestyle and attitude-wise, since picking up this Law of One stuff:

Cutting down on marijuana and REALLY cutting down on alcohol, decided to give up porn, masturbating with WAYY less frequency, less interested in getting laid in general, becoming vegetarian and if not that, close (I'm really not into meat now that I'm thinking about my polarization and the effect meat has on me) not into videogames, TV or movies anymore, etc. etc.

It's GOOD for me, but man, so much at once...
I will preface by saying that I don't limit myself to any genres of music, though I have never resonated with popular music including country. My tastes range from metal to classical to ambient and all over the board, otherwise.

Music is one of the most useful and wonderful aspects of 3D Earth life. I personally don't question what music I listen to. It depends on mood, and where I am at in life. There was a time several years ago when I obsessed on Alice In Chains. Right now, I am obsessing on Buckethead. There was a time I would play Tool's "sober" over and over for weeks. That song did not ignite anger in me, it resonated with the anger I had inside, and helped to express it, surface it, and transform it. Listening to that song brought lyrical beauty, understanding, and acceptance to the anger I had buried. Maynard Keenan himself was asked once why he didn't write angry Tool-like music anymore, and his answer was, "If you can't be healed through your music, what good is it?"

So my advice is to experience any music you feel drawn to without judgment. 
I can confirm unity100's statements. Metal produces anger, which is then a catalyst that must be dealt with.

Considering that spirituality is about moving closer into harmony, both harmony within oneself and harmony with all-that-is, introducing additional anger may not be helpful.

I went from metal to Mark Knopfler. The man's voice and lyrics are soul-soothing.
(04-30-2018, 12:17 PM)Stranger Wrote: [ -> ]I can confirm unity100's statements.    Metal produces anger, which is then a catalyst that must be dealt with.  

Actually it is a more like a matter resonance.

If the music speaks to you it is because you contain the same energy and this allows a process of release and expressing stagnant energies in you, and so helping you to become free of them much more than any potential of creating new anger in you. The fear of new anger seems more like a fear to uncover your hidden anger.

I have a friend that expressed the beauty of metal really well once. He said something like that the artists transmute negative energies (from both within and without) through a creative process of turning them into something that conveys the beauty of them as radiant. That people usually listen to these things to feel better at the end of it, much like listening to sad songs when you are sad to let your sadness out. He then went on about how metal music has been a great helper to him emotionally, uplifting his mood and ability to remain positive with others throughout his life. Just as the artists come to transmute negative energies into positive ones, so do the fans.

I could see how many of these artists are on Earth simply to offer this service to others.

...

Personally the music that speaks to me is somewhat in the image of the Universe. I like music that mix light and dark so that tensions build and come to resolve into light. I guess to one that wishes to become a healer, this kind of music is a harmless manner to train transparency in one's personality, the healer does not heal another by blending with what's good in them but by having no resistance nor judgment toward all that is negative in them, so training with music on what you may reject probably is a definite effective mean to widen your ability to be positive in face of various energies being expressed, because for energies to transmute they require to be expressed in radiance and not repressed and hidden.
In my opinion there is 2 kinds of music. Music to let it in and music to let it out. Or at least it will have that effect depending on who's listening to it. And so I would think it depend on what you need at the moment. Sometimes you need something that understands what you're going through to let it out and sometimes you need something different or opposite to influence you into changing your mood. Metal can have tremendous positive effects in both those areas. I listened to a lot of metal for most of my life but I must admit I have a secret. I simply don't bother with lyrical content at all until I have absorbed the instrumental first. Sometimes I have listened to entire albums and discographies for hundreds of times before I felt like looking into them, and when I do, it's usually on the side that I look into it as text and words. I still enjoy it a lot, but it's like a bonus for me, not a central theme. When I'm listening to the music, it's all about arrangements of sounds and so you could say that it is some kind of shield from other people's energy to a certain extent, or at least to the literal context of the words. As long as I can find something that makes me feel good about it, that's what's gonna happen.

If you listen to angry music and you feel good about it, maybe you just have anger to let out, and so that would be a good thing. If you listen to metal and it makes you more angry then that would be a problem. But be careful not to put all of metal into the same basket, metal has so many genres that it's basically not realistic to even compare them together.

It sounds to me like you are a little bit like me in that you like how it sounds but not necessarily what is being expressed. You are maybe getting to the point where your anger has lifted and now you absorb a little bit of negativity. That may simply be an hint that you need to change the bands you listen to, and while listening to other genres of music is a very good idea, it doesn't necessarily mean you should 'get rid of metal'.

With experience I have personally give up on most popular genres of metal to focus more on progressive metal as I feel it is more focused on the music itself rather than the angry projection you seem to talk about. It's not necessarily better but I guess I have grown a little tired of most of metal. It kinds of becomes very similar once you know a lot of bands. It happens in pretty much every style of music too, thats why change is a good thing.

I used to have lots of anger myself that I would let out by playing metal on the drums, but I always thought it would be better to just let it out by jamming with friends or alone with music than putting out records about it so that people receive that. I now much prefer to listen to people who are simply interested in the music and have all their thoughts put into making good rhythms, good melodies, good harmonies and good progressions. I think it's more inspiring that way, and I always feel good about the music because I know it's been done out of love, even if it's very heavy. If what you like most are riffs I suggest you find bands that center their compositions around the love of riffs rather than anger. And sometimes good riffs can sound angry, but as long as it's just riffs, there's no personal projection its just put out as raw emotion that you can express through it. It's kind of like an image or an archetype of that said emotion that you can experience as love rather than the anger it may portray. At least that's how I see it personally.

One of the thing I usually see as a hint that the people who produce a certain kind of music have found the love in their music is that it usually grooves. Now that's entirely subjective and personal but that's how I experience it. I have found so many different genres of music and of metal that groove even if it's very fast, very dark, very technical or even very slow and ambiant that I now see no reason why there would be no groove. It is totally possible to write kickass riffs that are very angry and heavy and make it groove, and it just happen that when it doesn't i kind feel like the musicians are just saying that they're angry rather than portraying that anger into a good riff. I hope you understand what I mean by this.

The element of groove might also be very subjective, but I usually make the distinction between rhythm and groove and I think not many people understand the difference. All music has rhythm. Not all music has groove. My understanding of groove is that it is built out of at least two rhythmic elements that are 'different' and often creating off beat accents or counter rhythms that are usually called syncopations. You usually get a sense that it's very alive when it happens, and not even a very bombastic brutal riff can make you stop from moving along the music. The way I see it, people may react differently depending on different rhythms, but nobody can stay still under serious groove. We are just built to react to it. It just so happen that even outside of metal, I think people as they get older unconsciously tend to move towards that feel naturally as it just seem to get under their skin no matter what. Even if we stay inside the metal circle, I heard many people say something like " I didn't think I could like metal but this is so good" it's usually because there is a good groove under the music.

So I'm thinking maybe that's what you need. Metal based around kickass grooving riffs so that you feel good and let out anger at the same time. That totally exist and it's totally good for you. But maybe you are very different from me and have a lot of attachment to the lyrics. Then I would say in that case there is no other way than to find bands that talk about something you enjoy. But again most metal I have known that have tackled spiritual grounds was mostly progressive or at least very melodic. Probably not the kind of subject you will find among music that is centered around anger. I would simply say trust your instinct and follow your mood. If you're in for a change just go with the flow. If you feel good about what you listen to, don't bother so much about it. Change will happen naturally.

And sorry for the long post.
(04-28-2018, 10:01 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys, for all I know, this may be considered a dumb question, but considering that I'm learning to look at things in terms of energy, frequencies and vibrations, I'm wondering if listening to metal has any negative effects I should know about and how seriously should I take it? I LOVE metal.

Some of my favourite bands aren't exactly positive either.

For example:

Pantera (Favourite album is Vulgar Display of Power, which features a dude getting punched in the face on the front cover and my favourite song off of it is called "Mouth for War")
Nevermore (Prog metal band with a dark sound and mostly depressing/dark lyrics)
Nine Inch Nails (Not a very positive sounding band)
Rob Zombie and White Zombie (both have a lot of surreal horror lyrics and stuff)
Alice in Chains (My mom said they sound like a funeral dirge, just to give you an idea)
Rammstein
Ministry (can get pretty angry/aggressive)

These are just SOME of my favourite bands.

Not to mention I'll listen to some pretty hard hip hop, like NWA.

So does listening to this stuff have a negative effect? Should I be worried? I really love this music, even though I'm becoming more and more positive and the lyrics are becoming less and less relatable.

So what kind of effect (if any) does listening to this kind of music have and what ought I do (if anything) about it?

Thanks in advance,

Nate

I say if you truly enjoy listening to this music, its because you resonate with its energetic properties. I would suggest you take a look at the band members and other folks who listen to it - this will tell you where you are at.

I, too, grew up listening to alternative music - all the ones you mention are classics. I got into them mainly because my friends were into them. As i got older, I realized that i really did not resonate with that type of music. Some of it was sad and depressing, and others were angry. I shifted to music that made me feel more upbeat and uplifting.

I dont like to use the term "negative effect", because in reality, these are all dualistic terms. I would suggest thinking for yourself and asking yourself if you truly enjoy this music. If you do, then thats because you resonate with it. Then the next question is, why do you resonate with it? As you progress in spirituality (If this is what you are trying to do), then your taste in music may change.
I will only add to be cautious of what spiritual evolution may be. Just in case that would be implied, I don't think being spiritually evolved means being 'without anger'. Anger is one of the many emotions we all contain. I would instead think that spiritual evolution is being able to flow with any emotion without repression or blockage. I tend to think that not liking any type of music goes back to having difficulties processing these emotions to begin with. There is beauty to be found within any emotions and any music. I myself have always had trouble with popular music. To me it sounds superficial and boring. But there is no doubt I have trouble with these things in real life too. I could hardly interact on a superficial level most of my life. But the problem isn't superficiality, it's me. There are lots of positive things that comes from being able to interact superficially like being able to create connections very easily and taking yourself lightly and by having a blockage with these things comes repression. It's not as bad as it used to be for me, but it's a good exemple I think. I thought I would add that in case there would be a consensus along the lines of 'it's best not to have anger to be spiritually evolved'. That to me is just brainwash. Emotions are meant to be expressed freely, whatever they are. And being spiritually evolved doesn't mean living in a bubble where everything is sunshine and rainbows and hugs. Although nothing wrong with those too. There is simply no set parameter of what a spiritually evolved being should look like. If you can feel your emotions without repression and feel good about it, then you're on the right track. Otherwise, there is great indicator of what needs to heal.
I love what you say Night Owl.

On metal, and I agree there are so many different genres to it today, but back in 1973, was published a book which was a huge success : the Secret Life of Plants. It reported many experiences made with plants, via electrodes linked to plants and graphs, for example a plant which had been cared by the same owner for many years and 'knew ' him well, reacted intensely on the graph one day when her owner stepped into the street and nearly got run by a car.
So, among all these experiments a set of plants was tested with music.

With blues and gospel, the plants reacted positively, with some very modern jazz the plants would back away a little from the source of music, with classical they would lean outwards the source, metal was the one from which they would back away the further. The music that would completely mesmerized them was classical music from India, the plants would literally lean and surround the speaker... lol

So much for metal but that was back in 1973 when there was probably one sort of pretty strong metal.. Wink
That's an interesting experiment. I would tend to think that the mix has something to do with it as well and back then, the sound of rock and metal was very dirty and raspy. I'm guessing plants have a leaning for melodies, something that even avant garde jazz was not very known for. I would also guess the reason they might be loving indian music is because they have quarter tones in their music. In the same vein maybe they would also love arabian music. While it sounds a little weird to westerners, quarter tones are definitely less squared and mathematical sounding and so maybe it's more natural to them, like it's closer to real life sounds. They also have a very different approach to rhythm that is closer to language and is not based on a grid like western rhythms.

They should totally do an experiment like that with all the different genres that exist nowadays. I would be curious as to the differences between music with real instruments vs music with electronic sounds.
I am so glad Night Owl, that was exactly my thought with Indian music, the quarter tones... I just love quarter tones.
Just a note: humans aren't plants. We have complex minds and living in 3D creates a lot of confusion and diversity of experience (as much as can be observed, plants and animals don't react with offense, jealousy, self-pity etc.). There are schools of thought (new age etc,) that label anger as bad. Anger is just an emotion on the spectrum of emotions. It's when it's denied and repressed that it becomes toxic, as is true with any emotion. 

People also tend to adhere to certain behaviors based on age. This is partly due to things such as frontal lobe development and the aging of the body; but it also reflects the amount the individual is affected by what they "should" be doing or acting like. This is repression.

I'll say it again: try not to judge what music is appropriate. Let it just be—whatever you are attracted to at any given moment, let it flow through you and feel it and love it and appreciate the gift and interaction. While I agree that what we let ourselves be exposed to has an effect, this is only efficacious to the point that we are our authentic selves. If we have denied emotions, and we also repress anything that is considered "bad," it may be surmised this is not a good recipe for self-realization.

I can see why plants wouldn't like really fast, loud music with a lot of energy—they are stationary creatures who do not move. But here's another thought: quantum physics has proven the observer always affects the outcome (double-slit experiment). Could it be the people who ran the plant/music experiment loved Indian music?  

The problem with the plant experiment is that it is implying that "these things" are good and "these things" are bad.
Whatever makes your heart dance.
I used to listen to a lot of heavy metal (mostly progressive) when I was younger. I guess I needed something to awake my masculine energy, courage, readiness to protect and fight, decisiveness, passionate emotions ... I was very very shy. My life was also less stressful, I had more free time ... Now I need more peaceful and sunny music to calm my nerves.

I still listen to some metal and rock. Darkness and agression is typical for this genre but I rather listen to bands that have a positive vibe or address stregth and power from a different perspective. Everytime I hear "Child in Time" I feel the shivers. Or music of Angra (when Matos was in the band), Shadow Gallery, Dream Theater, Rush, Neal Morse ...
There is a neoclassical industrial band which I enjoy, although I listen to this band only sparingly: Triarii
Here are some lyrics from their song, "Ode to the Sun":

This is an ode to the Sun
The Sun for war and desire
The Sun for the fuel of life
This is for you, this is for me
This is an ode to the One
The One who leads our desire
The One who will take us to Light
This for you, this is for me
... Sounds relatively positive, except for the mention of war, no?  Maybe sixth-density unified? The Sun, the immediate Sub-Logos, which leads us to the One, to Light...
Yet, the lyrics do glorify war.  The band name itself is a reference to Roman militarism.  Other compositions make heavy references to World War II.  Another of their songs, "Iron Fields," could be an anthem for a fourth-density negative planet, especially one which belongs to Orion.  Yet, there are positive elements within their songs... at least, as a presumably positive-seeking entity, I can discern positivity.  I limit my exposure because I can also see their deviousness.  (Maybe I like it because I was a negative-now-positive being? Because I originate from sixth-density?  Because I am a third-density aspirant who really jives with this rhythm? Who knows.)

Here's another, "We Are One":
Out of the darkness we'll rise
Into the light we will dwell
We came to rule the world with muse of arms
We are the clouds in the skies
We are the storm and the tides
We are the wind and the rain
The sun and the moon
And the end of all time
We are the gods of a new world order
We are the soldiers, the legion of light
We are the center, the death of the sun
Fire and flame, we are one
We are the gods of a new world order
We are the soldiers, the legion of light
We are the center, the death of the sun
Fire and flame, we are one

More recognizably negative, in my opinion--yet, still, contains references to Oneness, to Unity, to the Creator, for that is the foundation of both of the paths we have access to here in our octave.

aWanderer91

An old thread but an interesting and wise topic to discuss, due to music being so powerful and having an influence on not only the conscious mind but especially the subconscious mind. Many entities are not even aware of the impactful effects the music they listen to has upon their being.

I think it more comes down to the balance of the individual, I believe a genuinely balanced individual could listen to any music and be unswayed.

But it's unlikely that you would be full of love and find violent or negatively oriented music attractive. Music is a great mirror of our mood and vibration, so rather than forcing yourself to listen to what one would call "positive music" and feeling nothing, you would be much better off listening to what resonates and discovering why you resonate with such music. Maybe you'll outgrow it, maybe you wont.

This is a topic me and a friend have discussed over the years, what impact music has on us and why we listen to what we do, and we both have a severe love of hip-hop. I still enjoy aggressive rap and quite savage like songs even now, and I feel no guilt for this as I grew up quite an angry child and it helps me to process and release those energies inside of me. I'm very thankful and grateful to be able to use music this way, I've had some of my most powerful experiences just listening to music. But as my vibration rose and I became more conscious, over the years I became drawn to much more harmonious and consciously channeled rap, and broadened my horizons to other genres that are much more well balanced.

My conclusion is that music is a great mirror and can definitely be used in such a powerful way to process catalyst, never feel guilty for what you like, just maybe become more conscious of why you enjoy it Smile
I think that's pretty the sum of it, aWandrerer91, Wink

I have a funny story on the subject. Had this one reading in my lifetime [ I had a second one but which was for another person as to help him so it was not really my reading.. lol ]. so int hat reading which took place in 1986, I met this psychic through a friend, who was a nurse for my son, and he was nine fact a musician, more like Bob Dylan 's style. But he was a wonderful psychic who had studied Sanskrit, was really hilarious and funny in each sentences, and who did a very accurate portray of who I was with all my little issues to work on. In the second part of the reading he was relaying the thoughts of my spiritual guides who were incredibly kind but funny too. And at one moment they saiid, about music choices, lets 'say that flo choices towards classical music makes her aura much happier and nicer than David's with his music,... lol. We both after the reading laughed so hard about this way of making fun of him...

So I have no insight on metal, but I always remember this funny thing about what music might do to you, lol. though I have like an idea that my spiritual guides made a lot fo fun of David...
I believe music like any other manifestation of this creation can resonate with certain energy centres.
And there is music that would resonates with red ray energy centre and music that resonates with violet ray energy centre.
We listen to what we are in tune with.

I believe we should listen to what we like and stop listening when we stop liking. Evolution will take care of what we like whenever is time.

Also rock music sometimes can be truly spiritual. For me the band Lake of Tears is one of those that make me think of pagan realms of heroes long gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9reuCbOMJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4sYIxczDqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWAEAlcQrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reBPtw374gM
Speaking of progressive metal, one must not forget to mention Dream Theater.

One of my 5 top most favorite song of all time is coming from Dream Theater.
The Spirit Carries On

The melody and harmony is superbly gorgeous and the lyrics... so deep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTDcAkSjuzc

Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
Where do we go when we die?
What lies beyond
And what lay before?
Is anything certain in life?

They say, life is too short
The here and the now
And you're only given one shot
But could there be more
Have I lived before
Or could this be all that we've got?

If I die tomorrow
I'd be all right
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on

I used to be frightened of dying
I used to think death was the end
But that was before
I'm not scared anymore
I know that my soul will transcend

I may never find all the answers
I may never understand why
I may never prove
What I know to be true
But I know that I still have to try

If I die tomorrow
I'd be alright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on

Move on, be brave
Don't weep at my grave
Because I am no longer here
But please never let
Your memory of me disappear

Safe in the light that surrounds me
Free of the fear and the pain
My questioning mind
Has helped me to find
The meaning in my life again

Victoria's real
I finally feel
At peace with the girl in my dreams
And now that I'm here
It's perfectly clear
I found out what all of this means
(03-14-2022, 09:43 PM)aWanderer91 Wrote: [ -> ]An old thread but an interesting and wise topic to discuss, due to music being so powerful and having an influence on not only the conscious mind but especially the subconscious mind. Many entities are not even aware of the impactful effects the music they listen to has upon their being.

I think it more comes down to the balance of the individual, I believe a genuinely balanced individual could listen to any music and be unswayed.

But it's unlikely that you would be full of love and find violent or negatively oriented music attractive. Music is a great mirror of our mood and vibration, so rather than forcing yourself to listen to what one would call  "positive music" and feeling nothing, you would be much better off listening to what resonates and discovering why you resonate with such music. Maybe you'll outgrow it, maybe you wont.

This is a topic me and a friend have discussed over the years, what impact music has on us and why we listen to what we do, and we both have a severe love of hip-hop. I still enjoy aggressive rap and quite savage like songs even now, and I feel no guilt for this as I grew up quite an angry child and it helps me to process and release those energies inside of me. I'm very thankful and grateful to be able to use music this way, I've had some of my most powerful experiences just listening to music. But as my vibration rose and I became more conscious, over the years I became drawn to much more harmonious and consciously channeled rap, and broadened my horizons to other genres that are much more well balanced.

My conclusion is that music is a great mirror and can definitely be used in such a powerful way to process catalyst, never feel guilty for what you like, just maybe become more conscious of why you enjoy it Smile
I feel that my enjoyment of Triarii comes from a remembrance, and a love, and a desire, perhaps, to return to a life of more strict discipline.  I still have certain disciplines, but I, now, rarely run miles, I rarely strain my muscles--the appeal of this martial band (ha, a martial artist, of a different kind) for me is the same as the appeal we could find for any structure, of any feeling of vigor for life, of certitude, of perseverance.  This is a negative facet in that it leans more toward "should" than "could," but--maybe I am overdue to work with self-judgment, with the shadowy self.
i think if it makes you feel better then it's good for you. it might resonate and help express and process the emotions that it brings up in you. if it brings you down, then it wouldn't be good for you. all depends on your state at the given time. i'm not into metal but i listen to hip hop beats like phonk and sometimes it's energizing, fun, and gives a sense of empowerment. other times i'm not in the mood and want something lighter and in those cases it would have the effect of bringing me down. it also varies greatly between songs because some songs in a genre have a totally different energy to other songs in the same genre.

i used to listen to rap/hip hop but at a certain stage, i just couldn't stand the lyrics anymore. the lyrics are so often focused on sex and violence and it just lowers my consciousness and energy and sometimes grosses me out. i also became aware that the lyrics would have a subconscious effect even if i wasn't listening closely to the lyrics. this is why i've moved to instrumental hip hop.

this is a pretty "metal" phonk song: https://soundcloud.com/iamevil97/talking-sh*t (you have to replace the * with an "i" cause the forum won't let me post the bad word!)