(11-29-2018, 05:16 PM)bluedagger Wrote: [ -> ]In the LOO (Law of One) books,
- Lemuria is explained as a land that sunk long time ago, but wikipedia and science says it never existed.
- Atlantis is spoken of as a land that existed with people who were technologically super advanced... yet Atlantis has never been found, and it could be it was just the invention of Plato in his workings.
- Yeti has never been found, yet it is said by LOO there are many, many existing on our planet right now.
I'm not trying to call BS. I'm trying to ask, how could I believe in LOO when so many things seem to contradict it? There are more that right now I do not remember, these are just examples.
The simple fact is that our science still retains its scholastic roots and a contradictory reaction to its scholastic roots, which results in it being very conservative:
http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html
Quote:Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar (black holes in 1930, squashed by Eddington)
Chandra originated Black Hole theory and published several papers. He was attacked viciously by his close colleague Sir Arthur Eddington, and his theory was discredited in the eyes of the research community. They were wrong, and Eddington apparently took such strong action based on an incorrect pet theory of his own. In the end Chandra could not even pursue a career in England, and he moved his research to the U. of Chicago in 1937, laboring in relative obscurity for decades. Others rediscovered Black Hole theory thirty years later. He won the 1983 Nobel Prize in physics, major recognition only fifty years. Never underestimate the authority-following tendency of the physics community, or the power of ridicule when used by people of stature such as Eddington.
Quote:J Harlen Bretz
Endured decades of scorn as the laughingstock of the geology world. His crime was to insist that enormous amounts of evidence showed that, in Eastern Washington state, the "scabland" desert landscape had endured an ancient catastrophy: a flood of staggering proportions. This was outright heresy, since the geology community of the time had dogmatic belief in a "uniformitarian" position, where all changes must take place slowly and incrementally over vast time scales. Bretz' ideas were entirely vindicated by the 1950s. Quote: "All my enemies are dead, so I have no one to gloat over."
Another article
Quote:Virginia Steen-McIntyre (found that ancient indian villiages date to 300,000BC)
Steen-McIntyre innocently stumbled into heresy when she found wide-ranging evidence that native settlements in the USA southwest were 300,000 years old. This damaged her career, since the dates acceptable to the archeologist community are roughly 50,000BC at the earliest.
Quote:George Zweig (quark theory)
Zweig published quark theory at CERN in 1964 (calling them 'aces'), but everyone knows that no particle can have 1/3 electric charge. Rather than receiving recognition, he encountered stiff barriers and was accused of being a charlatan.
Quote:Lynn Margulis (endosymbiotic organelles)
In 1970 Margulis was not only denied funding but also subjected to intense scorn by reviewers at the NSF. "I was flatly turned down," Margulis said, and the grants officers added "that I should never apply again." Textbooks today quote her discovery as fact; that plant and animal cells are really communities of cooperating bacteria. But they make no mention of the barriers erected by the biological community against these new ideas. Even today Margulis' ideas about cooperation in Evolution are not widely accepted, and are only making slow headway against the assumption that Evolution exclusively involves absolute selfishness and pure competition.
Quote:James Lovelock (Gaia theory)
Discovered that Earth's biosphere is analogous to a living organism with homeostasis: multiple feedback paths maintaining the average temperature and gas mixture of Earth's atmosphere. (Main one: ocean algae control the average temperature by sequestering CO2 and emitting DMS which becomes cloud-seeding sulfate aerosol.) This was dismissed and Lovelock attacked mostly on the grounds that evolution forbids such planetary organisms ...and that a living Earth is disgusting New-agey aborigial belief.
Another article
Quote:Binning/Roher/Gimzewski (scanning-tunneling microscope)
Invented in 1982, other surface scientists refused to believe that atom-scale resolution was possible, and demonstrations of the STM in 1985 were still met by hostility, shouts, and laughter from the specialists in the microscopy field. Its discoverers won the Nobel prize in 1986, which went far in forcing an unusually rapid change in the attitude of colleagues.
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There are many more at the bottom of the article. The bold ones are relevant to the topic of history and archaeology, and geology.
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Leaving aside the general conservatism and resistance to new knowledge in science, history has a particular kink to it: It is assumed/expected that the evolution of mankind was uniform, sequential and undisrupted at a large scale. Especially in regard to technology or other knowledge.
Coupled with the difficulty in tracking, verifying and confirming major geological changes like the ones which could sink large landmasses, this naturally makes propositions about existence of developed civilizations and their disappearance to be taken lightly.
We do know that various local civilizations have sunk due to tsunamis or rapidly advancing sea levels. From the bronze age civilizations in Iberian coast to Doggerland. But we are only able to detect and confirm the existence of difficult ones like Doggerland only recently.
And it is also assumed that knowledge progresses and is only 'set back' in incidents like fall of Rome and middle ages.
Whereas in reality, before the advent of organizations which would accumulate, record and propagate information like the scientific establishment, knowledge was easily lost, ranging from the burning of library of Alexandria, even with the existence of writing. In civilizations which did not use extensive writing, especially for knowledge that would be kept among secretive guilds/orders and relayed from generation to generation at great effort, knowledge would be lost with mere losses of a majority of the guild/order within a natural disaster, famine or plague.
In respect to conservatism, take the recent object that visited the solar system, Oumuamua... Every indicator and every finding negates it being any natural object, be it asteroid or comet, and various findings point to a non-natural origin, but the scientific community is doggedly against it, and is easily practicing selective-cognition by just accepting it as an asteroid or comet despite evidence to the contrary.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-th...Seymour-10
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Like in a lot of the cases listed in the ridiculed scientists vindicated article, all of these 'ridiculous mysteries' would be cited as facts after they are discovered.