(01-10-2019, 07:16 AM)SiriusC Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe it's just our language or specifically the term "awareness" that is simply insufficient to describe differences.
If we would imagine space without any objects in it, there would be no relation of size, distance or speed. We could move with infinite speed and still experience no movement at all and no passing of time. In this example in physicality, even if we would be 100% aware, what would we be aware of? This is how i understand infinity/unity before (timeless) the expression of the three primal distortions.
Language is always a problem, which is why I rely on my own experiences over anything I read, be it Ra or otherwise. It is also probably why most eastern mystics rely on the "neti neti" approach to the great mystery (not this, not that). It is easier to say what the background of all existence is not rather than what it is. This is not, in anyway, to denigrate their carefully chosen and amazing descriptions. And since it is one of my favorite things to think about, I'm naturally going to keep talking about it, because I find it so interesting. I'm not saying the eastern approach is wrong, or that my approach is right, just when push comes to shove, you gotta do what you love, even if it is not a good idea.
Having said that, my understanding, which is just my opinion formed from personal experiences, is that it comprises an infinitely acute state or background of awareness of awareness, which is not self awareness, but just awareness of BEINGNESS.
The rhythms of being itself. The language makes that sound like two things (awareness of awareness) but it is an awareness where the subject/object or inner/outer distinction has collapsed into a self-less and center-less nirvana, or metaphysical bliss, and there exists a feeling of infinite strength or potential (what we might humanly describe, probably inadequately, as a primal "urge to create" or to "release the potential"). This desire doesn't arise from lack (like most desires do, but rather, from completion, so it is more like a desire to give or share. So it is radiant, much like light is radiant.) This eventually results in the kinetic phase of intelligent infinity where the Logos manifestation is "reached for". That would be the octave level of being (state prior to distortion) as it engages in the first distortion. Again, it is just an opinion or speculation based on intuitive observations/experiences. I could be wrong, but it is what feels most true to me at this time.
In the octave, infinity, both chaos and order have come to mean the same thing. There is no order, and yet it is in perfect order. It is intelligent infinity.
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The Matrix of the Mind is that which reaches just as the kinetic phase of intelligent infinity, through free will, reaches for the Logos or, in the case of the mind/body/spirit complex the sub-sub-Logos which is the free-will-potentiated beingness of the mind/body/spirit complex; to intelligent infinity, Love, and all that follows from that Logos; to the Matrix or, shall we say, the conscious, waiting self of each entity, the Love or the sub-sub-Logos spinning through free will all those things which may enrich the experience of the Creator by the Creator."
Here Ra talks about the matrix of mind (which is the conscious mind) reaching, in a similar way, to intelligent infinity as it reaches for the Logos manifestation (distortion 2). Again, they still call it intelligent. The difference between unpotentiated infinity and potentiated infinity in my opinion is merely that one is being deliberately organized or focused by the Self and one is the "relaxed state" of the cosmos (octave density).
Intelligent infinity, which is naturally imbued with infinite strength of will, then "chooses" to organize into a self, or central sun/son. Naturally, the deliberate focusing of infinite unity would be called "Love" or the "Logos", or the "Word". Choosing to become a self (the 1st distortion) results in the 2nd distortion, the Creator, who then creates the 3rd distortion (Light).
The free spirit (free will) drives the painter (logos) to paint (with light).
Quote:Logos, (Greek: meaning “word,” “reason,” or “plan”) plural logoi, in Greek philosophy and theology, the divine reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning.
Quote:13.16 ▶ Questioner: Could you tell me about this first density of planetary entities?
Ra: I am Ra. Each step recapitulates intelligent infinity in its discovery of awareness. In a planetary environment all begins in what you would call chaos, energy undirected and random in its infinity. Slowly, in your terms of understanding, there forms a focus of self-awareness. Thus the Logos moves. Light comes to form the darkness, according to the co-Creator’s patterns and vibratory rhythms, so constructing a certain type of experience. This begins with first density which is the density of consciousness, the mineral and water life upon the planet learning from fire and wind the awareness of being. This is the first density.
It is interesting to note that even 1st density material is conscious, yet it is not
self aware. Apparently, archetypal earth and water (passive elements) learn from archetypal wind and fire (active elements) to become
more conscious of being until they move from random consciousness to consciousness of growth (I realize this is an oversimplification of elements if you're into astrology but I'm just speaking very generally here). These energies then become self aware as they graduate into the yellow ray vibrational spectrum. Thus, the cosmos reflects itself holographically from the macrocosm to microcosm both in structure and experience.
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The universe in which you live is recapitulation in each part of intelligent infinity. Thus you will see the same patterns repeated in physical and metaphysical areas; the rays or apportions of light being, as you surmise, those areas of what you may call the physical illusion which rotate, vibrate, or are of a nature that may be, shall we say, counted or categorized in rotation manner in space/time as described by the one known as Dewey; some substances having various of the rays in a physical manifestation visible to the eye, this being apparent in the nature of your crystallized minerals which you count as precious, the ruby being red and so forth."
(01-10-2019, 07:16 AM)SiriusC Wrote: [ -> ]But the thing is, even though from our perspective of linear time we may describe the three primal distortions in steps as in "one after the other" but this is just conceptual since time and space have at this point not yet come into existence, so to speak. These distortions are expressed simultaneously with unity/infinity therefore it might be futile to ponder whether unity/infinity is aware or not because one is not without the other. I see it as an inside-out of the same, in that case there is infinite awareness either way.
Described this way, "unity/infinity" and the "cosmic mind/body/spirit" as you described the primal three distortions so amazingly, are two aspects (like the inside and outside) of the same in the eternal here and now. Therefore the basis for the question whether or not unity/infinity is aware would be incomplete.
That is my understanding as well, the 3 distortions happened simultaneously. They are only linear in a
hierarchical sense as yet neither time or space had been constructed yet.
Ra speaking about the distortions: "
The steps, as you call them, are, at the point of question, simultaneous and infinite."