11-30-2019, 05:24 AM
The way that Ra describes the astral planes is somewhat like a place of dreaming and healing. It does not strike me as somewhere for uninterrupted consciousness with no intermittence. Beings such as Adolf Hitler were said to be contained in the Middle planes undergoing healing. Using this example I am curious how the healing would take place.
I will bring up the human sleep state for reference. We consider our waking state to be our primary active state, as our sleep state is typically consisting of “nothingness” unless we have dreams.
Is it unreasonable to assume the primary state for a being whose yellow ray body has been, or partly been deactivated, to be that of the sleep state during the third density incarnation?
Also I would assume that the healing that would take place would be through information about the incarnative experience emerging from the bodiless “sleep state”.
Using the first example, a being such as Hitler would have something like nightmares in which he might experience the feelings which he had inflicted on other-selves and realise the extent of the trauma inflicted. This would be a very long process, however, as mentioned before, it would not be be constant and there would be long periods of intermittent “nothingness” between these encounters or events.
Please elaborate further on this for me if you are able.
The question I have is whether a place within or without existence where an entity experiences a conscious constant. I would refer to this as Hell.
What I am describing is not like the sleep state. It does not necessarily have to be before, during or after an incarnation.
The yellow ray body could continue its autonomous function, if limited, as the entity resided in a conscious space of isolation.
I’ve asked before if it were possible for an entity to be “alone in the darkness” and it seems like this is a vague possibility for an impermanent period.
Someone like Hitler was perhaps unconscious in his actions. Ra says there was a lot of emotional complexity surrounding his life along with confusion. This would likely make the process somewhat bearable as it is bathed in love/light and afforded understanding.
Such a being that might experience the type of corner I am talking about is one that had received full disclosure and yet still consciously moved in a direction which enslaved itself, or placed itself in the same box as those who are not afforded any grace.
How would one find themselves in such a position? Picture the top of a pyramid. The small space at the top represents the being which might experience this type of Hell. A drug addict who constantly requires more of something to experience their satisfaction will eventually develop a tolerance until it makes them sick.
If anyone can relate to an analogy of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, “pleasure itself” in this sense may be intense for a time until the pendulum has been lifted in its full extent to one pole. In the end one can only move so much further in that direction, and what is sought can only be found in small puddles.
If everyone who had suffered over time in order to fund the pleasure of those at the top of this metaphorical pyramid were eventually given their share, and those who had become accustomed to being at the top were suddenly at the mercy of those “below” them, but even if they were afforded mercy could not have their thirst satisfied along with their deviation of conscience serving as a constant separation, I feel that this could logically warrant such a position.
There are hose who consciously do this, and those who have collars put around them by those who consciously do it. Ra calls this bidding. I tend to think that those who did it because they had to would not experience this to its full extent.
If someone genuinely believes they deserve it, or has dug their hole too deep, is there a point of no return in this way?
What I am describing is a disidentification with the body and with experience. Having experienced the full extent of “pleasure” and having the pendulum begin to swing in the other way. Could this go on for an incomprehensible period of time?
By pleasure I do not mean someone who over indulges in chocolate or occasionally does drugs, I am not talking of someone who has a problem with brothels or occasionally finds themselves taking their anger out on their loved ones to make themselves feel better.
I’m talking about where the money comes from. The ones who drink fine wine over a long table, passing legislation, snatching children, trafficking humans and committing acts of sacrifice to their commercial “gods” which have been worshipped since Caesar, Babylon and the Anunnaki.
Are these thrown into a dark room and thrown away the key? Along with those who they had controlled and manipulated? It is difficult to talk about such people and the influence behind their energy.
I will bring up the human sleep state for reference. We consider our waking state to be our primary active state, as our sleep state is typically consisting of “nothingness” unless we have dreams.
Is it unreasonable to assume the primary state for a being whose yellow ray body has been, or partly been deactivated, to be that of the sleep state during the third density incarnation?
Also I would assume that the healing that would take place would be through information about the incarnative experience emerging from the bodiless “sleep state”.
Using the first example, a being such as Hitler would have something like nightmares in which he might experience the feelings which he had inflicted on other-selves and realise the extent of the trauma inflicted. This would be a very long process, however, as mentioned before, it would not be be constant and there would be long periods of intermittent “nothingness” between these encounters or events.
Please elaborate further on this for me if you are able.
The question I have is whether a place within or without existence where an entity experiences a conscious constant. I would refer to this as Hell.
What I am describing is not like the sleep state. It does not necessarily have to be before, during or after an incarnation.
The yellow ray body could continue its autonomous function, if limited, as the entity resided in a conscious space of isolation.
I’ve asked before if it were possible for an entity to be “alone in the darkness” and it seems like this is a vague possibility for an impermanent period.
Someone like Hitler was perhaps unconscious in his actions. Ra says there was a lot of emotional complexity surrounding his life along with confusion. This would likely make the process somewhat bearable as it is bathed in love/light and afforded understanding.
Such a being that might experience the type of corner I am talking about is one that had received full disclosure and yet still consciously moved in a direction which enslaved itself, or placed itself in the same box as those who are not afforded any grace.
How would one find themselves in such a position? Picture the top of a pyramid. The small space at the top represents the being which might experience this type of Hell. A drug addict who constantly requires more of something to experience their satisfaction will eventually develop a tolerance until it makes them sick.
If anyone can relate to an analogy of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, “pleasure itself” in this sense may be intense for a time until the pendulum has been lifted in its full extent to one pole. In the end one can only move so much further in that direction, and what is sought can only be found in small puddles.
If everyone who had suffered over time in order to fund the pleasure of those at the top of this metaphorical pyramid were eventually given their share, and those who had become accustomed to being at the top were suddenly at the mercy of those “below” them, but even if they were afforded mercy could not have their thirst satisfied along with their deviation of conscience serving as a constant separation, I feel that this could logically warrant such a position.
There are hose who consciously do this, and those who have collars put around them by those who consciously do it. Ra calls this bidding. I tend to think that those who did it because they had to would not experience this to its full extent.
If someone genuinely believes they deserve it, or has dug their hole too deep, is there a point of no return in this way?
What I am describing is a disidentification with the body and with experience. Having experienced the full extent of “pleasure” and having the pendulum begin to swing in the other way. Could this go on for an incomprehensible period of time?
By pleasure I do not mean someone who over indulges in chocolate or occasionally does drugs, I am not talking of someone who has a problem with brothels or occasionally finds themselves taking their anger out on their loved ones to make themselves feel better.
I’m talking about where the money comes from. The ones who drink fine wine over a long table, passing legislation, snatching children, trafficking humans and committing acts of sacrifice to their commercial “gods” which have been worshipped since Caesar, Babylon and the Anunnaki.
Are these thrown into a dark room and thrown away the key? Along with those who they had controlled and manipulated? It is difficult to talk about such people and the influence behind their energy.