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Would be really interested in that since it is my belief that the more STO-orientated your job is the less you earn and the less succesful in terms of money, ease of existence and personal power you are. Of course there are exceptions but you know we live in a capitalistic society( in a STS-world if I'm not mistaken?) so the jobs that generate the most amount of money get the most pay. Obviously being a nurse or social worker is not as profitable as a CEO and so on.
How do you balance that?
How do you find a proper job that lets you live out your desire to be of service to others while not harming yourself in the process or making life more difficult than it has to be?
I mean everyone wants to be independant and such but is it actually possible in this world when you are moving towards the positive pole? In my opinion it is a matter of a lot of luck and chance?
What if you just do a job for generating money to live well? Is that OK?
And more importantly are there jobs that one should absoluetly avoid because they are actually only for people moving towards the negative pole like bankers or soldiers? I believe the effect on society is mostly negative....
What do you think?
Probably a writer would be the most independent job. Though I found it hard to make much income that way
more than a few dollars every 6 months or so.

I currently am on disability. I make 1/2 what I made working, but I don't pay taxes.
I make more than a lot of hard working people though.

But a psych test showed that I am unable to work.
(01-10-2020, 06:24 AM)rinzler Wrote: [ -> ]Would be really interested in that since it is my belief that the more STO-orientated your job is the less you earn and the less succesful in terms of money, ease of existence and personal power you are. Of course there are exceptions but you know we live in a capitalistic society( in a STS-world if I'm not mistaken?) so the jobs that generate the most amount of money get the most pay. Obviously being a nurse or social worker is not as profitable as a CEO and so on.
How do you balance that?
How do you find a proper job that lets you live out your desire to be of service to others while not harming yourself in the process or making life more difficult than it has to be?
I mean everyone wants to be independant and such but is it actually possible in this world when you are moving towards the positive pole? In my opinion it is a matter of a lot of luck and chance?
What if you just do a job for generating money to live well? Is that OK?
And more importantly are there jobs that one should absoluetly avoid because they are actually only for people moving towards the negative pole like bankers or soldiers? I believe the effect on society is mostly negative....
What do you think?

My experience is completely different than yours now. But it was like yours as long as I believed what you are still believing...
I was a stay at home mother for many years but did start volunteer work at a charity/thrift (we call them op-shops in Australia) for a few years. Until recently I really enjoyed it and found it fulfilling, despite only really getting welfare money to live on. I got a part time job at a restaurant and was able to do both for about a year, but management changed at the charity/thrift shop and I was assigned to work alongside with someone who had an alcohol problem. I wasn't happy with this new energy, from the moody new manager and the alcoholic, I found it depressing to come in so I decided to leave. The free time I have now, I'm going to spend on bettering myself. Meditation and going to gym. I think at some point I may consider doing volunteer work again, but for now I need to focus on myself.
This is a concern of mine. A major life lesson for me in this incarnation is career. I have not found that career yet. I know that I want to work with others though. My natural propensities make me good for working with the mind and talking problems out. A counselor is a vocation that I believe I would do well in being able to serve others using my natural talents and gifts.

I agree with your sentiment. It seems that kindness, compassion are under appreciated in this world. “Good guys finish last.” Because people want immediate results and wealth.

However the positive benefits are slower in the coming. The rewards of pure service to others far outweighs any amount of money one can make in 3D. One is creating spiritual gold rather than lusting after illusory gold. It may be good (lusting after materiality) for those who walk the Left Hand Path because it gives them greater ability to control their lives and consequently others’ as well.

Money isn’t a bad thing. It’s the love of money which is the root of all evil. Take a look at this world, and one will find greed to be the root of so much injustice, dishonesty, etc.

Let me give an example: I’ve always enjoyed video games ever since a boy. As I’ve grown up to where I am now, there have been major changes in the gaming world. First off a brand new triple A game costs 60$. That’s just the standard edition. Then they have the deluxe edition for another 50$. If that wasn’t enough, they release DLCs (Downloadable content) throughout the year. This of course isn’t free. So they release the base game and then you gotta pay another 50$ for the rest of the game’s content which is released slowly throughout the year.
Doesn’t end there either: micro-transactions! These are always overpriced and adds the “pay2win” aspect into the game, meaning those who pay for micro transactions get a “one up” on those who don’t.
If you want to play multiplayer with friends or strangers, you have to buy a subscription just to be able to use a multiplayer feature, which is another 60$ for a few months-a year.
Even the platform has a dual release, pay another 100 for the “pro” version console which runs the games faster and more smoothly.

All of this is rooted in an insatiable greed. It’s only gotten worse and is destroying quality work in the gaming industry. Ironic that the supposed “best” developers release poor quality games loaded with bugs which they then fix later on after the release.

Anyway I just wanted to share that aspect, which not only has affected the gaming world. The beauty industry is also a cash-cow right now. People just want to make quick and easy money. Because that is seen as the ultimate goal in life for those who are sleeping.
(01-10-2020, 06:44 AM)RitaJC Wrote: [ -> ]My experience is completely different than yours now. But it was like yours as long as I believed what you are still believing...

I'm sure you don't mean it this way, but statements like these I think can be harmful. The movie "The Secret" was another example—it just spewed out platitudes from people who were already rich like it was just so easy, ignoring the suffering so many people were going through trying to survive. In my opinion it is better to encourage and guide rather than point the finger at someone who may or may not be operating from ingrained beliefs.

In the US, from an objective standpoint, and especially today with huge corporations now expanded to the Internet, there is no denying the reality of this situation. That said, I do agree with you that beliefs are key. As an entrepreneur, the belief I can do anything is vital, in spite of whatever is going on "out there."

@ rinzler:

Every individual's situation is different. If it were me, I would search for a job that "feels right" and eschew anything that my conscience would find untenable (such as, for me, working in a fast-food restaurant where they use the meat from tortured animals and denuded rain forests, etc.). Then, from that standpoint, now being more comfortable with a job that at least supports me, I would work toward a "dream" job. That may mean joining The Peace Corps or Doctors Without Borders, etc., but these would require education and/or startup capital—so some saved funds doing a gig at a regular job would come first.

The idea is to have a plan. If that plan falls through you just go to the next plan. And in the meantime, do your very, very best at any job you may have. This is another key to any success.

It is good to remember that in any job you can be of service. By being kind and compassionate, detached from the drama, and focused on doing your best you can be of great service at the lowliest of jobs. It is also good to remember that you ARE an other, and your first responsibility is your own life. As Nau7ik said, money isn't bad. Money in this time on Earth just represents choices. 

Shoot for the stars, do anything you want to do.
I'm on a benefit for depression n anxiety.
Just found out the sounds in my ears and dizzy spells, I've had all my life, is tinnitus lol. Doctors are awesome. I self diagnosed my whole life cos they obviously don't know s*** lol.
Anyway...yeah...pushing knives into my arm at 8 and first shrink at 11 after I started smashing my head into walls.
Prozak at 16, cetelipram at 24, venlafaxine at 30.
Pill free since 2012 n just trying to balance the reptilians that hound me due to soul contracts etc.
I net crystals and meditate.
It helps me not completely lose it n want to kill everyone...so that's pretty awesome; not killing you all.
I used to feel like I wasn't a real man, for not having a job.
Then i realized i had a function of replacing the system and money...so I look at it as a necessity now. Staying separate from the majik money system.
I spent time in laboring and corporate work.
It felt wrong and I would have to take days off when I'd get depressed for what I feel, was a reaction within to not being where I was supposed to be, or not living up to my potential.
I've done volunteer work...to try to do something for others. I'm not lazy...just using all my time, working to survive...depresses the f*** outta me. I'm lucky I live in NZ and we have such a good social security system. I get 265 a week. Average rent for one person flat is about 200. So I can eat but it's pretty tight.
That's why I side hussle.
Now I've got my daughter and have a medical condition that comes under an invalid category, I should be able to get around 5-600.
My partner is on a non working Visa though...so I've been trying to support us both for 6 months...on 265 a week.
Lucky for us, my mother is awesome and has been letting us stay with her.
I try to work. I was a Barber, studio manager/producer, install coordinator etc.
I end up in intense battles with those who try to impose their agendas on me. There are those who unknowingly get triggered by being around me.
I bring out the shadows in others...most times as a result of standing next to them.
It's become too intense to be around others in my state of flux.
I'm over having to be lessons for people, who don't want to look at their own s***. So I keep to myself n don't put myself in those situations.
That's why crystal netting is the only thing I do, for now.
I'm in the process of helping allocate money for a hemp industry for my family though.
That's where I feel my future is.

Just wanted to put this out there, for others going through similar things.
(01-10-2020, 11:55 AM)Diana Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-10-2020, 06:44 AM)RitaJC Wrote: [ -> ]My experience is completely different than yours now. But it was like yours as long as I believed what you are still believing...

I'm sure you don't mean it this way, but statements like these I think can be harmful. The movie "The Secret" was another example—it just spewed out platitudes from people who were already rich like it was just so easy, ignoring the suffering so many people were going through trying to survive. In my opinion it is better to encourage and guide rather than point the finger at someone who may or may not be operating from ingrained beliefs.

In the US, from an objective standpoint, and especially today with huge corporations now expanded to the Internet, there is no denying the reality of this situation. That said, I do agree with you that beliefs are key. As an entrepreneur, the belief I can do anything is vital, in spite of whatever is going on "out there."

Shoot for the stars, do anything you want to do.

I am sorry if what I wrote came over as a harmful platitude. But I have truly learned that "out there" is always reflecting only one thing: our conscious or unconscious beliefs about ourselves, others, and life.

Could you please help me formulate it in a less harmful way?
Right now, and for the past 15 years, I've been the managing accountant, computer specialist and human resource/employment law coordinator for my soon to be ex's factory/distributorship. It does not resonate, hasn't for 10 years at least, if ever.

I'm a problem solver, so jump from company to company, career to career, picking up skills, refining them, using them to help, or more usually, try to help, them thrive. Challenging, futile and rollercoaster of financial success.

I now sit at a precipice, my fork in my road, my chance to try something different.

Do I, once again, swallow my distaste at having to support the dark to survive, or, do I find bigger levels of trust, elevate my vibration so that only opportunities of the light and right choice for this time arise?

Do I continue clinging to the old, ancient really, cliches and engrained, IMPLANTED beliefs? Beliefs like money is evil, only the corrupt win, good spiritual people do not want, deserve, need money?

Or do I accept the wisdom I continue to be gifted and make that blind leap of trust?

I know what I'm choosing. The choice is always yours.

I changed my mind and heart a long time before my circumstances supported the change.

Anyone IN THE CORRECT/COMPATIBLE VIBRATION can manifest, and do.

My entire black, soul sucking, nearly dying life was 100% created by me. I "manifested" every painful moment.

Life did not improve by "fixing" anything other than my perceptions.

My divorce should be, WILL BE, final by June. Then I will have to face another choice, do I step forward on the spiritual elevation path, or do I choose a 3d job and bring in as much light as I can?

Stay tuned....
(01-11-2020, 03:53 AM)RitaJC Wrote: [ -> ]I am sorry if what I wrote came over as a harmful platitude. But I have truly learned that "out there" is always reflecting only one thing: our conscious or unconscious beliefs about ourselves, others, and life.

Could you please help me formulate it in a less harmful way?

And I'm sorry if I came off too harshly. I agree with your premise. But to get to that point/mindset is a big leap for most. I'm no expert at getting my points across. The one thing I do always encourage is to be open to possibilities—and in that way, one may lessen the grip on those ingrained beliefs.

In the bigger picture, who knows—your statements whatever they are may just hit the right person at the right time. So, who am I to say what's working and what's not?

What was behind my comment is my own frustration with New Age platitudes and easy magic bullets (which proliferate on the Internet in the form of Youtube videos that promise 100K overnight). I have known many people who have just sat around making vision boards thinking that's all they needed to do. It's lazy. In my opinion it takes more—commitment, intention, and action.
I teach people how to throw axes and run an arcade. I'm also a musician.

All about bringing light, relief and joy in to peoples' lives.

I stopped working in a kitchen last summer because of a lack of appreciation.
(01-11-2020, 01:18 PM)Diana Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-11-2020, 03:53 AM)RitaJC Wrote: [ -> ]I am sorry if what I wrote came over as a harmful platitude. But I have truly learned that "out there" is always reflecting only one thing: our conscious or unconscious beliefs about ourselves, others, and life.

Could you please help me formulate it in a less harmful way?

And I'm sorry if I came off too harshly. I agree with your premise. But to get to that point/mindset is a big leap for most. I'm no expert at getting my points across. The one thing I do always encourage is to be open to possibilities—and in that way, one may lessen the grip on those ingrained beliefs.

In the bigger picture, who knows—your statements whatever they are may just hit the right person at the right time. So, who am I to say what's working and what's not?

What was behind my comment is my own frustration with New Age platitudes and easy magic bullets (which proliferate on the Internet in the form of Youtube videos that promise 100K overnight). I have known many people who have just sat around making vision boards thinking that's all they needed to do. It's lazy. In my opinion it takes more—commitment, intention, and action.

I see. Thank you
What I do personally is this:

"We assure you that, in the process of forming the intention, at each moment that you form such an intention to seek and to serve the one infinite Creator, to heighten your devotion to the one infinite Creator, or to increase your passion for developing your will in order to maximize your service to the Creator..."

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0212.aspx
Trying to head towards a direction in which you can empower the people in any way is a productive approach.

Empowering people takes the form of enabling them with resources, tools, means, moving the society towards more egalitarian forms of governance and economics, educating people, teaching - there are many ways.
I am a painter and sustained myself for a long time being assistant to a photographer and working with ad agencies. My husband was a consultant so was the major one bringing money. I am starting to sell my paintings so it's looking like I am an emergent artist at 73, BigSmile

I always managed to find work somehow, I was lucky.
i dont think that the more STO your job is, the less you make is true at all. i dont think whether youre STO or STS makes a difference, theres a lot that goes into earning money either way. i used to be really pessimistic about how i would make a living so i totally see where youre coming from but theres actually a lot of opportunity especially with the internet.

i can think of multiple examples of people who are very wealthy from what they do and their careers are totally STO, they do spirituality related content creation (youtube, social media, blogs) and then offer paid courses/services. in terms of having independence and a personal business, there's a whole industry that uses the model of content creation/growing a following (or just running ads) and offering products/services. some examples of things that help others/are creative that ive seen people doing are offering healing like reiki, psychic reading sessions, life coaches, selling courses about life transformation or learning particular skills, theres people who sell art, have photography businesses, teach yoga, etc. you just need something that provides value to people and to be able to get yourself out there.
(02-02-2020, 08:35 AM)schubert Wrote: [ -> ]i dont think that the more STO your job is, the less you make is true at all. i dont think whether youre STO or STS makes a difference, theres a lot that goes into earning money either way. i used to be really pessimistic about how i would make a living so i totally see where youre coming from but theres actually a lot of opportunity especially with the internet.

i can think of multiple examples of people who are very wealthy from what they do and their careers are totally STO, they do spirituality related content creation (youtube, social media, blogs) and then offer paid courses/services. in terms of having independence and a personal business, there's a whole industry that uses the model of content creation/growing a following (or just running ads) and offering products/services. some examples of things that help others/are creative that ive seen people doing are offering healing like reiki, psychic reading sessions, life coaches, selling courses about life transformation or learning particular skills, theres people who sell art, have photography businesses, teach yoga, etc. you just need something that provides value to people and to be able to get yourself out there.

Just to add to your comment...you can be STO and work for a self centered corporation. I will say it is very, very tricky as I did it for years. But, the more the heart opens the more difficult it can become although it can be done.
For instance, I have a physician and he is very kind and loving. He really tries so hard for me. I know this must be difficult for him as there is so much red tape concerning the American Medical Association and patient protocol vs. the "right thing" to do for your patient. I am sure this man teeters constantly on the edge of disaster with his career and helping others. I would not be able to stabilize if it were not for this man.
How interesting and really inspiring kristina. I have often felt that STO working in an apparently negative environment are in fact very essential because they help the balance so much more than if they were not there. There’s definitely no mistake.
(02-02-2020, 01:31 PM)flofrog Wrote: [ -> ]How interesting and really inspiring kristina. I have often felt that STO working in an apparently negative environment are in fact very essential because they help the balance so much more than if they were not there. There’s definitely no mistake.

Thanks a bunch Flo!