I'm not sure why I never noticed this before, but Ra directly states here that the first hominids on the planet came from Mars.
Quote:9.5 Questioner: The original, the first entities on this planet— what was their origin? Where were they before they were on this planet?
Ra: I am Ra. The first entities upon this planet were water, fire, air and earth.
9.6 Questioner: The people that we now have— the first people, [inaudible] like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?
Ra: I am Ra. You speak of third-density experience. The first of those to come here were brought from another planet in your solar system called by you the Red Planet, Mars. This planet’s environment became inhospitable to third-density beings. The first entities, therefore, were of this race, as you may call it, manipulated somewhat by those who were guardians at that time.
However, the last bit is interesting and reflects a common idea, that they were genetically altered or tampered with. Specifically, "brought here", though.
Quote:9.7 Questioner: What race is that, and how did they get from Mars to here?
Ra: I am Ra. The race is a combination of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those of your so-called Red Planet and a careful series of genetical adjustments made by the guardians of that time. These entities arrived, or were preserved, for the experience upon your sphere by a type of birthing which is non-reproductive, but consists of preparing genetic material for the incarnation of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those entities from the Red Planet.
This sounds essentially like a form of modified cloning. So not only were the entities cloned but also altered to be able to survive on Earth.
Quote:9.8 Questioner: Then I’m assuming what you’re saying is that the guardians transferred the race here after the race had died from the physical as we know it on Mars. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
So it sounds like a soul can only be in one third density body at a time, so once all of them had died on Mars, the genetic material was then brought to fruition on Earth so the m/b/s complexes could incarnate in to them. Supposedly, this is the beginning of the legacy of humans on this planet. However, the next bit is something I totally missed in other readings.
Quote:9.9 Questioner: The guardians obviously were acting with an understanding of the Law of One in doing this. Can you explain the application of the Law of One in this process?
Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One was named by these guardians as the bringing of the wisdom of the guardians in contact with the entities from the Red Planet, thus melding the social memory complex of the guardian race and the Red Planet race. It, however, took an increasing amount of distortion into the application of the Law of One from the viewpoint of other guardians and it is from this beginning action that the quarantine of this planet was instituted, for it was felt that the free will of those of the Red Planet had been abridged.
9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?
Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.
So the latter bit there I believe is they essentially nuked themselves, but anyways the really interesting point here I'm going to re-interate.
The Law of One was named by these guardians as the bringing of the wisdom of the guardians in contact with the entities from the Red Planet, thus melding the social memory complex of the guardian race and the Red Planet race.
What.
So not only were those from Mars transferred here but in the process they melded with the Guardian's social memory complex. Is this like, a buddy system? One guardian per one Martian? Or is it more of a fusion, a synthesis, whereby the consciousness of the Guardians and those of Mars are melded in to one seeking a balance between the two sides?
This would seem to be reflected in a LOT of mythology.
Not only that though, that has huge implications for this planet because
this is why Earth was quarantined.
So, these Guardians engaged in supposed an 'accidental' act of self-service, because they abridged the free will of those from Mars, this seems like a "fallen angel" kind of story to me. Now, these same entities, combined with those from Mars, now seek to understand their dual natures.
Explains why there is such a tendency towards war in humans, maybe.
Anyways, it's probably just science fiction, but these are fun concepts to think about.
But, to play with it further, does this also mean, that all of us have some Mars and Guardian consciousness thing goin on because of the genetic legacy of our hominid bodies?
Dang, I missed this too!! This is definitely a fun one to think about..... I need to read Book 1 again....
Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in movies about the future
Total Recall is a pretty great movie.
Ever seen THX 1138 by George Lucas?
I don't know why people say American Grafitti was his first film, maybe the first very successful one but not his first
These guardians were the Yahweh social memory complex, there is more about that in the material. Just search for "Yahweh".
(05-11-2020, 10:58 PM)Infinite Wrote: [ -> ]These guardians were the Yahweh social memory complex, there is more about that in the material. Just search for "Yahweh".
Yeah that is true although not explicitly stated in one session, they say , but nothing there that really touches on my pondering. Yahweh came back again later and did more modification, but they never really questioned further on this bizarre merger of SMCs. I'm sure it's a minor point, I just thought it was a rather impactful moment that sort of got brushed over in the material.
They say "The Yahweh group worked with those of the planet you call Mars seven five, seventy-five thousand [75,000] years ago in what you would call the cloning process." but that is implied that they are referring to the process described in the earlier session.
I think the more I read about Law of One, I noticed the 10 primordial masters of sahaja yoga seem increasingly relevant
And I didn't really understand why they said that they existed in the Solar Plexus or Ocean of Illusion as the third Nabhi chakra is called...
but after reflecting on how Ra material specifically says 3rd density is the intelligences in the rings of Saturn it makes a bit more sense in a literal way.
Many people on this Earth came as gurus, as real gurus. The manifestation of this great
principle of the primordial master is called as Dattatreya. They came on this Earth many times and they tried to establish within us our sustenance, our dharma with this central force of evolution. It is only through the establishment of sustenance that we can evolve.... All of them are the incarnation of the same spirit.... Thus, we had the middle path built in by the gurus in the center of our being.... These gurus came on this Earth to remove fanaticism. The last of them came as Shirdi Sai Nath. He was the one who had said very clearly that to speak ill of any other religion is a sin. Nothing can be more powerful than that.... The greatest guru that we have is love, Sahaj love. It is the guru within us which teaches us, which somehow or other leads us. We are led to that great line of understanding, for which we do not have to go to any college, to any school for education. It is something so much within that it works and expresses itself – expresses like a light. (6 & 7 February 1981 and Guru Puja 2004
http://sahajayogaencyclopedia.org/index....e=Adi_Guru
I think adi guru means primordial master from what I remember. It's saying 3rd density entities incarnated to make humans wiser rather than fanatics but they were the same entity or some category of the same entity. It always was a bit hazy, but I worked on the info about what they taught humans rather than what dimension they are claimed to have originated from. It's like the story of Idris is Islam...makes no damn sense, says an entity came from another planet with technologies and wisdoms but he is equated as Hermes. Wat.
A lot of stuff in Law of One sounds no more or less believable than what is written of angels.
http://sahajayogaencyclopedia.org/index....al_Masters
Shri Raja Janaka – King of Mithila and Father of Shri Sita, wife of Shri Rama (India).
Shri Abraham – Forefather of the 12 tribes of Israel (Israel c. 2000 BC).
Shri Zarathustra – Instituted Monotheism and fire worship (Persia c. 1800 BC).
Shri Moses – Founder of Jewish law (Egypt c. 1250BC).
Shri Lao-Tse – Author of Tao Te Ching (China b. 604 BC).
Shri Confucius – Taught ethics and compiled I Ching (China b. 549 BC).
Shri Socrates – Founder of Greek philosophy (Greece b. 431 BC).
Shri Mohammed – Founder of Islam (Arabia d. 632 AD).
Shri Guru Nanak – Founder of the Sikhs (India b. 1469 AD).
Shri Shirdhi Sainath (Sai Baba) – Prophesied Shri Mataji’s birth (India c. 1840 – 1918 AD).
The void/ocean of illusion/nabhi chakra and astrological influence of Saturn in the context of it being 7 chakras, plus moon and sun just clicked with me. I always wondered what the big circle in the ocean of the illusion meant.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/06/54/55/06545....jpg?nii=t
It is the astrological influence of Saturn on our experience
http://sahajayogaencyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Nabhi
30.14 Questioner: Thank you. Can you give me a brief history of the metaphysical principles of the development of each of our planets around the sun and their function with respect to evolution of beings?
Ra: I am Ra. We shall give you a metaphysical description only of those planets upon which individual mind/body/spirit complexes have been, are, or shall be experienced. You may understand the other spheres to be a part of the Logos.
We take the one known as Venus. This planetary sphere was one of rapid evolution. It is our native earth and the rapidity of [the progress of] the mind/body/spirit complexes upon its surface was due to harmonious interaction.
Upon the entity known to you as Mars, as you have already discussed, this entity was stopped in mid-third density, thus being unable to continue in progression due to the lack of hospitable conditions upon the surface. This planet shall be undergoing healing for some of your space/time millennia.
The planet which you dwell upon has a metaphysical history well known to you and you may ask about it if you wish. However, we have spoken to a great degree upon this subject.
The planet known as Saturn has a great affinity for the infinite intelligence and thus it has been dwelled upon in its magnetic fields of time/space by those who wish to protect your system.
The planetary entity known to you as Uranus is slowly moving through the first density and has the potential of moving through all densities.
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This part about Uranus is also interesting. Uranus has rings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS4JVE7Gb_8
4 of the nine navaratna:
4Diamond (vajraṃ) for Shukra (asurācārya) (Venus),
3
Blue sapphire (nīlaṃ) for Shani (Saturn),
2Hessonite (gomeda) for Rahu (the ascending lunar node)
1Cat's eye (vaidūryaṃ) for Ketu (the descending lunar node),
In the Greek mysteries Saturn was seen as Cronus, the god which devoured his own children, bit of a hint in that notion, I think. A mark of beginnings and ends, like the Oroboros.
All is one, no distortion in Ra's message.
(05-12-2020, 01:16 AM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]In the Greek mysteries Saturn was seen as Cronus, the god which devoured his own children, bit of a hint in that notion, I think. A mark of beginnings and ends, like the Oroboros.
Uranus is etymologically derived from Ouronos..
Ouroboros..
because of the ring around it. I looked at the symbols lately and noticed the similarity.
Saturnalia is an interesting ancient holiday. It may have been the origin of the Christmas holiday.
Yeah in the material 25,000 years is the rough length of the 'harvest cycle', which as you say strongly parallels the Procession of the Equinox.
In the Ra Material the end of these cycles are when there is an opportunity for souls to move on to the next density. (Although it is possible to 'self harvest' that is typically seen as something done on the 'negative' path.)
(05-12-2020, 01:20 AM)Navaratna Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2020, 01:16 AM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]In the Greek mysteries Saturn was seen as Cronus, the god which devoured his own children, bit of a hint in that notion, I think. A mark of beginnings and ends, like the Oroboros.
Uranus is etymologically derived from Ouronos..
Ouroboros..
because of the ring around it. I looked at the symbols lately and noticed the similarity.
Saturnalia is an interesting ancient holiday. It may have been the origin of the Christmas holiday.
Indeed, and Ouronos would have been the father of Cronus.
Just gonna have to wait and find out, I suppose!
All is one, no distortion in Ra's message
Funny you should mention that, I was recently inspired to craft a copper circlet for myself.
It amazes me people don't get the word out about copper mesh masks, copper mesh clothing, chain mail gloves, shirts...brass doorknobs
Our media is a sloppy midget babbling incoherently about how some babbling idiot did the right thing 5 months ago and is planning on doing the even more corrector thing 9 months from now looking back..ignorant of the fact that enormous amounts of copper dust and clothing would straight up kill this puny microbe on contact. Brass doorknobs, car handles, seats.
I guess people are just...dull.
Media
"stay home do nothing huhidunnolol" *hands up both palms raised* OR PANIC. This just in everything will be back to normal in 3 days.*
I try not to be too hard on ignorance nowadays, afterall, "forgive them father, for they know not what they do."
It's like getting mad at a blind person for tripping over something they didn't see, lol. I get the frustration people have towards... "people" lol, always that 'us and them', I have very much been there myself, it just seems like beating a dead horse at this point though.
That being said, on the point of copper, I'd say a lot of the issue of ignorance is oversaturation of information.
"Our media" is not a unified entity as far as I can see, it's a collection of humans. Obviously there are agendas behind anything going on in the media, but I think more of the chaos comes from cognitive dissonance where people are bombarded with unsolvable opposing information.
People focus a lot on the techniques used to create disruption and "divide and conquer", but personally I am more concerned with the effects.
I don't really buy in to conspiracies much anymore though, even if they may be true, I prefer to deal with the things in front of me.
I agree about no being upset over ignorance. You'll never be happy if you complain about everyone not being perfect constantly.
It isn't me being angry, more like disappointed in how many people are dying unnecessarily yet in this misinformation information age no one uses their Facebook bulletins to tell everyone this simple fact about the biocidal properties of copper and silver to physically destroy viruses rather than using treatments that they will mutate resistance to over time. No one on CNN, no one. NO ONE I know have I seen online or on any outlet spread awareness of this scientific fact. It amazes me.
I've spoken to people I know about it and they're immediately SO skeptical and I just feel like rolling my eyes back over "someone questioning some magic thing that isn't scientific.." and I just think NO--it IS scientific, you're just unaware of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligodynamic_effect
Yeah it is strangely both well-known and not really known at all. Copper has been known as anti-bacterial and anti-viral for a long time.
I always say medical specialists profit off of treatments not affordable cures or preventative measures.
Maybe the nurses don't think that way but so many of the shareholders do, and people prescribing treatment prescriptions that are endlessly renewed.
There's also this inexplicable silence on what happens to people with no insurance. Like that just became a taboo topic to mention.
I must remind myself at the next town hall that an Egyptian social memory complex would not hold a large level of bias towards the townspeople yelling about plague taking their JERBS.
I wonder if Ra is referring to the first hominids or the first modern humans (Don asks "The people that we now have—the first people, [inaudible]
like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?").
I think there's a clear evolutionary line between primates and early hominid genera but then things get weird. Recent discoveries have found that modern humans contain DNA that hints to interbreeding with an unknown 'ghost' population for which we have no fossil or DNA evidence.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/...n-genomes/
I always saw the story of the Garden of Eden as an allegory for a genetic lab where a hybrid species was being grown. Remember that when Cain was forced to wander the earth he settled in world already populated by humans. We also get reference to the "Sons of God" and the "Daughters of Men" in the book of Genesis.
Just some idle speculation from me.
(05-11-2020, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]Anyways, it's probably just science fiction, but these are fun concepts to think about.
Yes, they are.
(05-11-2020, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]But, to play with it further, does this also mean, that all of us have some Mars and Guardian consciousness thing goin on because of the genetic legacy of our hominid bodies?
Proceeding from the idea that modern-day humans derive from the first hominids, then yes, there would be a genetic legacy. And your idea of why we are so warlike fits that as well. Even if an entity has incarnated here for the first time, there would be DNA inheritance and genetic memory. Couple this with our still-functional brain stems (the "lizard" brain), and how easily humans can be induced to fear and other reactive emotions, we have a difficult, ingrained stumbling block to deal with.
And yet, if the Guardian legacy is also there alongside the Mars legacy, therein lies an opportunity to resonate with the Guardian energy. I think in this veiled existence, where survival—physical, mental, emotional—is the default position and the path of least resistance because the lizard brain and instinct are so deeply hardwired in this physical environment, it underscores Maslow's hirrarchy of needs, and the idea that the lower energy centers must be a strong and balanced foundation for unfettered work in the higher ones.
Totally agree about your link to Maslow Diana.
I personally totally agree with the notion Ra talks about Earth being an experiment, the Mars legacy, and protected by a quarantine ( lol how's that for a parallel ) so that the experiment be allowed to go. Had some dreams about that, lol.
(05-12-2020, 09:22 AM)Spaced Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if Ra is referring to the first hominids or the first modern humans (Don asks "The people that we now have—the first people, [inaudible] like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?").
I think there's a clear evolutionary line between primates and early hominid genera but then things get weird. Recent discoveries have found that modern humans contain DNA that hints to interbreeding with an unknown 'ghost' population for which we have no fossil or DNA evidence. https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/...n-genomes/
I always saw the story of the Garden of Eden as an allegory for a genetic lab where a hybrid species was being grown. Remember that when Cain was forced to wander the earth he settled in world already populated by humans. We also get reference to the "Sons of God" and the "Daughters of Men" in the book of Genesis.
Just some idle speculation from me.
Well, technically they talk about a second-density primate which also naturally evolved on Earth.
Quote:9.15 Questioner: Did any of these second-density entities have shapes like ours— two arms, two legs, head, and walk upright on two feet?
Ra: I am Ra. The two higher of the sub-vibrational levels of second-density beings had the configuration of the biped, as you mentioned. However, the erectile movement which you experience was not totally effected in these beings who were tending towards the leaning forward, barely leaving the quadrupedal position.
It seems in the lore of Ra third-density is where that state is defined, but it was a vague term to used intentionally to simply imply 'human-like'.
I think it's notable that suggestion that there are maybe both naturally evolved primate forms as well as 'planted', modified ones.
Almost bespeaks of a saga of races, whereby one or the other thinks it is superior and master of the other race, HMMMMMMM.....
(05-12-2020, 11:48 AM)Diana Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2020, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]Anyways, it's probably just science fiction, but these are fun concepts to think about.
Yes, they are.
(05-11-2020, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]But, to play with it further, does this also mean, that all of us have some Mars and Guardian consciousness thing goin on because of the genetic legacy of our hominid bodies?
Proceeding from the idea that modern-day humans derive from the first hominids, then yes, there would be a genetic legacy. And your idea of why we are so warlike fits that as well. Even if an entity has incarnated here for the first time, there would be DNA inheritance and genetic memory. Couple this with our still-functional brain stems (the "lizard" brain), and how easily humans can be induced to fear and other reactive emotions, we have a difficult, ingrained stumbling block to deal with.
And yet, if the Guardian legacy is also there alongside the Mars legacy, therein lies an opportunity to resonate with the Guardian energy. I think in this veiled existence, where survival—physical, mental, emotional—is the default position and the path of least resistance because the lizard brain and instinct are so deeply hardwired in this physical environment, it underscores Maslow's hirrarchy of needs, and the idea that the lower energy centers must be a strong and balanced foundation for unfettered work in the higher ones.
It's almost like the choice of polarity was hardwired in to our system, hmmmmmmm.....
(05-12-2020, 01:18 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2020, 11:48 AM)Diana Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2020, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]Anyways, it's probably just science fiction, but these are fun concepts to think about.
Yes, they are.
(05-11-2020, 06:27 PM)Aion Wrote: [ -> ]But, to play with it further, does this also mean, that all of us have some Mars and Guardian consciousness thing goin on because of the genetic legacy of our hominid bodies?
Proceeding from the idea that modern-day humans derive from the first hominids, then yes, there would be a genetic legacy. And your idea of why we are so warlike fits that as well. Even if an entity has incarnated here for the first time, there would be DNA inheritance and genetic memory. Couple this with our still-functional brain stems (the "lizard" brain), and how easily humans can be induced to fear and other reactive emotions, we have a difficult, ingrained stumbling block to deal with.
And yet, if the Guardian legacy is also there alongside the Mars legacy, therein lies an opportunity to resonate with the Guardian energy. I think in this veiled existence, where survival—physical, mental, emotional—is the default position and the path of least resistance because the lizard brain and instinct are so deeply hardwired in this physical environment, it underscores Maslow's hirrarchy of needs, and the idea that the lower energy centers must be a strong and balanced foundation for unfettered work in the higher ones.
It's almost like the choice of polarity was hardwired in to our system, hmmmmmmm.....
This place really makes me wonder...
The more and more it seems like either no one who authored it made these connections. Yet they all exist.
Yet it's possible that people did but didn't speak of them...but think of the extraordinarily extravagant level of details and effort that would have had to be put in to hiding these details.
This sounds like Martian lords to me.
There are places older than Egypt...Sumeria...and this bizarre place.
I'm watching this one next about Egypt and Iraq's gargantuan graveyards. The older and largest in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUPYEwbay4Q
I would say there is a lot of 'speaking through a veil' that happens here, and in the Ra Material.
I would say for myself as someone who has watched the revolving door of Bring4th turn many times with new and old folk is that a lot of people are able to find patterns in it that relate to the systems they know, and I have seen very similar statements you are making made by other people, not specifically regarding Sahaja Yoga or anything, but the question of "has no one made these connections?"
I am fascinating by correspondence and these kinds of patterns unveiling themselves, archetypal motions and all that, but then I just come to the point of... well, so what?
No intention there of diminishing your studies and researching, I think it's super neat that you're finding these connections, but it also makes me ponder at the number of times I have seen a very similar thing play out on this forum and more reach towards what the greater reality that ties all systems of thought together might be.
Simply put, I try to always look to the unity of things.
I think there is much to be seen in the simple statement right at the beginning of the material though.
Quote:We hope to offer you a somewhat different slant upon the information which is always and ever the same.
Edgar Cayce had a lot to say