Well, I'm not sure if this thread will survive, but someone has to come out and just be honest. From what I've been reading in this forum, most of us seem to have sex on the brain, and a lot of us still seem to be embarrassed to talk about it openly.
I am not wanting to start a thread of pornography or graphic discussion of sexual acts, but I would like to create a healthy, safe environment in which we can openly discuss the sexual aspects of life.
Some topics I've heard lately are thoughts about being the other gender, loving people of the same sex as yourself, social/gender stereotypes that have definite sexual undertones, sexual suppression and oppression in various cultures and being with one partner vs. an open sexual environment.
I've seen at least 2 threads derailed by these topics, so it seems that these particular issues are becoming a focus for many in this time of new energies. Anyone want to jump in and join me in realizing that sex is natural, healthy, and not something we should be ashamed of discussing (in mature, respectful terms, of course)?
Hmmm...I didn't see Monica's wonderful work with the Treehugger Treehouse. I suppose if nothing serious is allowed on that thread, this could be where anyone who wants to could discuss the topic of sexual energies in a more serious manner. I won't get upset if it just gets deleted, either. Seems I'm a bit behind on things.
i love it.
I've been having a lot of thoughts about the gay/lesbian issue lately. For the most part, I would consider myself bisexual, though since I'm married to a dude that pretty much makes me straight by default. I've had some intense relationships with other women in my dreams, and I've had fantasies about it in waking life. I've even fantasized guyXguy relationships, even though I really couldn't be a gay man in this life if I tried.
I know Ra said homosexuality has a lot to do with a person being one gender frequently in past lives, then suddenly being the other one. When they are surrounded by people, it is easy to get confused. Still, in my reasoning, as love continues to grow and expand, I would think that gender would become meaningless. I mean, eventually we outgrow gender altogether. Could two men or two women produce the same kind of energy exchange as a man and woman together?
I've also found myself having a hard time distinguishing between types of love...or I suppose types of energy would be more appropriate. I've found myself having sexual feelings toward all kinds of people...all ages and genders...people I don't even know. Now that I'm able to detect a person's energy signature, it only seems natural to share energy.
I don't think of these people in the same way I think of my husband, who I want to be my partner for life, but it is definite sexual energy. It feels like the whole universe is just one big orgy of love...why should we be ashamed of that? I feel these feelings welling up inside of me that have no words. Sex doesn't express them adequately, but it's the closest I've been able to come, and it feels very similar to sexual arousal. Has anyone else felt things like this?
i think two men together is the hottest thing ever. and creates a hotter energy exhange. i think Ra should have studied sex more if they're not into guy on guy.
it's definitely an expansion of sex, not some confusion.
i consider myself an empath that can see another being's energy and soul, so i fall in love with many people, just seeing them radiate. age doesn't matter. sex doesn't matter. race doesn't matter. heck sometimes i wanna marry my kitty.
but of course when he reaches 3D.
i totally get what you're saying, no words cover it. i think it's just love in many forms.
human beauty. i love people as a race, as an expression. sex is a part of that.
I told already the story about the tree branch. What I left out is that as I looked at that branch there was something in it calling to my inner being. Then something arose, like a knowledge that I don't remember, and that knowledge contains the ability of seeing sacred, loving Oneness in all things, like a tree branch, and it sparkles in a way that is impossible to describe. And then there was something that I could do, or be able of. I don't have mental ability of grasping it yet, and maybe I never will, as this knowledge is not grasped by the 3D mind, but if I oversimplify this wave of spiritual orgasm in my 3D mind it might be called as merging/melting with (in this case) tree branch in spirit and mind. The same thing happens sometimes when I look at leaves, trees, sky, soil etc. But who know if I am understanding it... But, though I might not remember it, and though I might distort it in my 3D mind, this part contains something so breathtaking beautiful that there are no words to describe it.
As we all had so much fun derailing three threads at the same time this morning something was with me that whole time. Only later, I realized that. And got sad. I saw visions, and emotions were like waves and winds taking me high and deep. I got very affected by this realisation, and didn't have energy anymore to joke about it. Something was there. Is there. And I don't understand it.
Tonight I managed myself to do Gaia meditation. That something arose again and called to me, asking me to come with it. So I followed. And it was like a magnet in Gaias inner core. So I merged with it and got spiritual orgasm from it. I don't have a clue of what it means. But I think it means something beautiful. (I read somewhere in Quo sessions about anchoring its light into the Earth, but I can't seem to find it now.)
What does this all have to do with sex? Everything! This something is the most intimate contact one can make with one, and so is sex. And yet, physical sex seems so clumsy in some sort of way. It is like flying a jumbojet instead of being a bird. It feels like rough energies bumping into each other, instead of that beautiful beam where one is merging with one. So I started a thread before, called sexual energy transfer, but still, I have difficulties to coalesce this spiritual/mind thing with physical sex. It is like day and night. When I travel with these beaming beautiful merging energies I have problems being in this physical world, as I perceive it as very rough. And I shall not even begin to compare merging on spiritual/mind level with physical sex. Am I wrong in this?
I think the expression I am longing for is closer to what Ra said entities do in 6th density...actually merging with other beings, experiencing them completely...even doing it with the sun. It goes far beyond two people locking loins...it is an ultimate, open expression of sharing...Heck, I feel it toward animals, rocks, trees, planets...Unfortunately, the neighbors prolly wouldn't be too fond of the sight of me attempting to merge with the tree on the corner...
It makes me wonder if sex is the highest way we can exchange in 3D. Do we just have to wait for higher densities to get the rest of it?
Have you ever noticed that guys always fantasize about 2 girls being together, and girls fantasize about 2 guys? It seems like a natural extension of sexuality. Most humans are evolved enough to be curious about different possible outcomes to a situation, including sex. Trial and error, right?
By the way, Ankh, that was very beautiful. You put into words something I haven't been able to even begin explaining for years...and I'm supposed to be good with words! I've had "spiritual orgasms" where my whole body was tingling with pleasure. It made physical sex seem clumsy indeed.
I suddenly remembered an exercise I did when I was in the mental hospital. It was extremely boring in there, so the few times they let us outside it was like heaven just being able to breathe fresh air. One day I found a pine cone as we were walking up the sidewalk. I took it back to my room and stared at the tree that was right outside my window.
Holding the pine cone, I imagined myself going into the tree, up through its roots, into its branches and leaves, just *being* the tree. It was a way for me to escape that terrible place, and I spent a long time outside with the tree. I'm sure they thought I was even more nuts after that, watching me sit there with a pine cone and stare at a tree, but it was one of the most profound experiences of my life.
(04-12-2011, 05:54 PM)ahktu Wrote: [ -> ]It made physical sex seem clumsy indeed.
You always seem so content with your relationship with W, so I got really surprised here.
You wonder if sex is the highest way of exchange in 3D. I wonder that too... I remember my first merging with a Being. I think it was a 6D Being. I felt like a bulldozer after that, clumpsy and way too rough. And it seems like this roughness is now perceived in the physical world. But it is not how 6D see it. It is yet another distortion coming from 3D mind.
Anyway, if you like to share of course, how is your sex life?
What I mean are you trying consciously reach or achieve something or you having normal 3D sex?
yes i find it funny guys like lezzies and girls like gays, hehehe. i love that. i see the feminine and masculine dance of beauty and passion in two guys making love. i can't describe how i feel when i see that and feel that. girls don't really do it for me like that, but like i said i have my lesbian phase. then i'm able to appreciate women more. but not at all the same way.
i do see sacredness in so many things, when i was a kid i would just stop and stare at things in awe and people would think i was spazzy.
oh well i like being spazzy if i get to enjoy things more that way.
Lol...I AM satisfied with my sex life with Walter. I'll just say that we see to each other's needs in every way possible.
The thing is, we've both at times felt like sex wasn't enough, even when we've had green and blue ray sex. We held each other as tight as we could, like we were just trying to become one being. We were both on the verge of crying, it was so intense. There was something between us, some invisible force making every atom of our bodies come alive with electricity, but for the life of us we couldn't find a way to express it. It was like seeing a glittering gem but being a few centimeters too far away to grasp it. Sometimes kissing seems to come closer to it than sex, because you're sharing breath...you're literally exchanging each other's life force.
He's been forced to work insane hours lately so we barely see each other at all, but I suppose it makes the time we DO find to be with each other even more precious. Over the past few months the massive stress we've been under has pulled us closer together when it would probably tear most couples apart. I see the fact that he is my husband as an aside...a legal quirk that I tolerate because of our culture. He is my life partner...the one whose footsteps walk closest to mine. He understands me on a level no other has come close to reaching, without even trying. I am infinitely blessed to have found him.
Ocean, your last post reminded me of when I was little. My babysitter had this old truck in her backyard with a blue tarp thrown over it. I would sit there and stare in wonder at that tarp. I was in awe at the blueness of it. My mom would be like "What? It's just a tarp." And I would be like "It's BLUE!" Lol.
(04-12-2011, 05:23 PM)ahktu Wrote: [ -> ]I know Ra said homosexuality has a lot to do with a person being one gender frequently in past lives, then suddenly being the other one.
Hi ahktu, this is interesting. I think I missed this in the Ra material, could you point me to where Ra said this? I remember Michael Newton uncovered exactly this in his regression sessions in
Journey of Souls, which always had me wondering about it.
Lynn, please read the book In Search of the Miraculous, by P. D. Ouspensky.
In Search of the Miraculous
I wish that you could see yourself as the rest of us see you.
You see yourself as a ball of confusion. We see you as a blazing sun hiding inside an Ahktu costume.
Consider a fire hose held, about 4 or 5 feet behind the nozzle, by a fireman. It lashes all over the place, and sprays as much water on the fireman as it does on the fire.
It is time for you to grasp the firehose right behind the nozzle.
We love you so much.....we know what you will be when you control the flow.
lol Ahktu, that was like me too!
(04-12-2011, 06:20 PM)Spectrum Wrote: [ -> ] (04-12-2011, 05:23 PM)ahktu Wrote: [ -> ]I know Ra said homosexuality has a lot to do with a person being one gender frequently in past lives, then suddenly being the other one.
Hi ahktu, this is interesting. I think I missed this in the Ra material, could you point me to where Ra said this? I remember Michael Newton uncovered exactly this in his regression sessions in Journey of Souls, which always had me wondering about it.
From session 31:
Quote:31.10 Questioner: Roughly how many previous incarnations would a male entity in this incarnation have had to have had in the past as a female to have a highly homosexual orientation in this incarnation?
Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.
It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere
They talk much more about it in the whole session:
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ses...&sc=1&ss=1
(04-12-2011, 06:20 PM)Spectrum Wrote: [ -> ] (04-12-2011, 05:23 PM)ahktu Wrote: [ -> ]I know Ra said homosexuality has a lot to do with a person being one gender frequently in past lives, then suddenly being the other one.
Hi ahktu, this is interesting. I think I missed this in the Ra material, could you point me to where Ra said this? I remember Michael Newton uncovered exactly this in his regression sessions in Journey of Souls, which always had me wondering about it.
Quote:Questioner: We have what seems to be an increasing number of entities incarnate here now who have what is called a homosexual orientation. Could you explain and expand upon that concept?
Ra: I am Ra. Entities of this condition experience a great deal of distortion due to the fact that they have experienced many incarnations as biological male and as biological female. This would not suggest what you call homosexuality in an active phase were it not for the difficult vibratory condition of your planetary sphere. There is what you may call great aura infringement among your crowded urban areas in your more populous countries, as you call portions of your planetary surface. Under these conditions the confusions will occur.
First off, I'm grateful to finally be digging into this topic. Ra's explanation is the only thing that has made sense for how I feel about it.
To me, this sounds like you can be biologically male or female in previous incarnations and it
shouldn't affect our sexuality, however
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.
It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere green ray love of a nonsexual nature thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment.
I'm a theatre major and know quite a few homosexuals myself, some I'm really good friends with.
Though personally, I've always felt 'out of the dark' as to how they follow through with the love-making. I mean, I love my friends, and I can feel sexual energy flowing during good conversation but that's because I feel validated by being a spoken presence, IMO something insides sees acting upon a bisexual urge, as being, idk, immature? Why should any friendship hang on sex?
Hang on.
Quote:Questioner: Why does density of population create these confusions?
Ra: I am Ra. The bisexual reproductive urge has as its goal, not only the simple reproductive function, but more especially the desire to serve others being awakened by this activity.
In an over-crowded situation where each mind/body/spirit complex is under constant bombardment from other-selves it is understandable that those who are especially sensitive would not feel the desire to be of service to otherselves. This would also increase the probability of a lack of desire or a blockage of the red ray reproductive energy.
In an uncrowded atmosphere this same entity would, through the stimulus of feeling the solitude about it, then have much more desire to seek out someone to whom it may be of service thus regularizing the sexual reproductive function.
I'm stumped. Ra sees it as a distortion, and so do I, only because I've been seeking that fusion feeling with another being myself, and I've already had intense heterosexual sex, so I'm comfortable with the whole, natural "she gets pleasure while I get pleasure," biologically-speaking, but Ocean I'll agree, there is probably more raw energy going on during a guy on guy.
But s*** ya'll, when it comes down to it, we're the Creator experiencing Itself in infinite varieties. And it is love. It can't be
bad, per se. I think the whole aura infringement due to population density is a really good theory that we can't ever real imagine without 4d space or how else how we can support 7 billion and growing peoples' sexuality without infringing on each others space.
Is the bisexual reproductive urge inherent in every first chakra here in our 3D bodies?
Ra doesn't speak about bis.
For what it's worth, I feel as if I was male for the majority of my incarnations.
I think bisexuality could be seen as perhaps the kid of heterosexuality and homosexuality. When you get into bisexuality, in my opinion, you've moved into a different area. I see it as more of an expansion than an suppression, though I don't think by being one or the other you are necessarily suppressed, more free, better or worse in some way.
Looking at it from another viewpoint, different people are just wired differently. We begin to be programmed from birth as to what traits are attractive to us, based on our parents, what social stereotypes were imprinted upon us, possible past life influences, cultural references, etc. I'm highly attracted to the Asian race, likely because I spent a ton of incarnations in Eastern cultures. I would bet that if a male was raised amongst a lot of feminine presences, especially if a dominant male figure was absent, they would be more likely to take on feminine/receptive traits, which *could* be a contributing factor to bi/homosexuality. And there's a million other examples, I'm sure.
I suppose different things work for different people, but if something like gender really doesn't matter to a person, I at least see it as a sign of open-mindedness. I can't see anything *bad* coming from any kind of love, though with all the cultural stereotypes (gay people go to hell) being pressed down upon us, I can certainly see how it could cause severe blockage in the chakras.
Gribbons, I don't see my inability to have sex with all of my friends (and/or everyone in general) as an inhibiting factor in our relationships. I don't feel like I need to have sex with them in order for our interactions to be fulfilling. However, the sexual energies that often arise are easily noticed, and I'm not going to try to pretend I don't feel it out of embarrassment. (I'm not sure I even interpreted your post correctly...sorry if I am off.)
Eddie...a sun in an Ahktu costume. ROFL. That's a great way of putting it. I guess I really should get a firmer grip on the hose. It's all about the hand placement. XD
well said Ahktu.
i have no idea what gender i was. i feel like both genders.
MagentaPixie made an interesting video on that as well. reincarnation and orientation.
You may have been both genders equally. I think spending a lot of time as both would be more likely to produce bisexual orientation than homosexual.
it makes sense. also makes sense why i don't feel trans. transpeople seem to be so miffed at their sex that they need to change it. but some of them are androgynous. or gay. it gets confusing.
I know a mother's desires for her child can have an impact on appearance. Like, if the mother was really wanting a girl but the child was a boy, he might still come out looking feminine. The power of thought is much stronger than people give it credit for.
There have been times I've become very frustrated with my gender, but other times I'm really glad to be a woman. I love male energy, though. I enjoy hanging out with my guy friends, just taking in their masculine energy. Most of my friends are male, though the ratio has been coming closer to even over the past few years. Walter seems to vastly prefer females. I suppose it's a good thing that neither of us has a jealous nature. Sometimes I wonder if he's in the same situation as me, just the other way around...that he was female for most of his incarnations...though it's really hard picturing him as a woman. He's a 6'10" hairy giant. XD
This be mah man beast.
i've on and off felt frustration at being female but my gender has been a non-issue for me. i do like androgynous people though, not physically necessarily but people who are balanced in their energies. men who are secure in their mascuinity and not afraid to be feminine, women who are more masculine. i see society going in a more androgynous and more expansive direction. it's exciting. i love this stuff.
Height difference?
Last picture, I promise.
omg!
what a difference.
Quote:Gribbons, I don't see my inability to have sex with all of my friends (and/or everyone in general) as an inhibiting factor in our relationships. I don't feel like I need to have sex with them in order for our interactions to be fulfilling. However, the sexual energies that often arise are easily noticed, and I'm not going to try to pretend I don't feel it out of embarrassment. (I'm not sure I even interpreted your post correctly...sorry if I am off.)
Nope, you hit it square on the nose.
However, I have had some distressing moments in the past where close friends of mind would have the urge and want to include me. I think these energies do arise naturally while being around people you get along with, those you love, but they don't have to be, say, exercised, to let it flow for what it really is. Love at the root, I think. Like brotherly/sisterly love.
As awareness expands, I think we all begin to see the duality of gender within us. I became more aware of my own feminine/receptive traits in my character as I grew up and accepted them, but they've never led me to want to change my sexuality. Or open myself to a new way of making that connection.
I agree with the wiring though, and cultural influences. We live in a subjective universe. We all do what feels right according to our experience, upbringing, and environment, past influences, yeah. It's just, personally to me, I've felt the cultural pressure to experiment and belong, and a part of me has felt 'if i don't, you won't accept me as someone who could be of service to you' which just doesn't feel good. Not being useful.
I'll have to meditate on the "expansion", or it being the "kid" of homo and heterosexuality, which I rather enjoyed thinking about it as.
thanks
I think it's funny that he's this enormous guy yet he's so gentle and patient, and I'm like this tiny condensed fireball that jumps all over the place. I guess fire and water really do make a great pair.
yeah, i think gentle giants are common, i've met a few.
people tend to be scared of them which can be annoying.
Glad I could help, Gribbons! I agree that some people are purely heterosexually wired, and there's nothing wrong with that, just as much as there's nothing wrong with being gay, bi or whatever. It doesn't make you an unenlightened person if you don't rush out and experiment. I've only ever been with men and I don't think it's holding me back in some way. I think it's the open-mindedness and acceptance that counts...that we can see each other as brothers and sisters regardless of sexual orientation, or any other difference for that matter.
People think Walter is going to beat them up for no reason. It annoys him. It also annoys him when people ask "Gee, do you play basketball?" He hates sports. Lol.
Remember folks, tall people are just like the rest of us! They have feelings too!
yeah, we are one. some gays have such bitterness toward straights that they exclude even transpairs. because they become "straight". it's sad cuz that's totally missing the point. we don't beat separation with more the same.
as your balancing process continues, and you keep on working with higher rays, it is inevitable to become more androgynous.
and oppositely, as you get more androgynous, your preference in regard to the souls you will mate with gets increasingly more delicate and refined and selective, leading a problem of finding mates.
it seems that, also logoi play a greater part in your life directly, with the increasing balancing process.
(04-12-2011, 09:59 PM)Ocean Wrote: [ -> ]yeah, i think gentle giants are common, i've met a few. people tend to be scared of them which can be annoying.
Big Mama is my gentle giant. Don't be scurd.
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I like what Unity100 says. It's a positive perspective on the subject.
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I was going to say that we tend to equate desires to become one with sexual desires. I call it the desire to swallow my bubble gum. The energy potential is just so yummy tasting that I want to consume it to the fullest. It's gone if I do that. The potential can be directed in so many other ways, but we have this 3D body that tells us it is sex we want. The same passionate energy can be channelled by both entities, together, into something more productive that raises experience and includes more entities.