If you have a negatively-polarizing person who is in your life trying to make things difficult for you, how would you guys go about "creating" the situation for them to go away, if you are unable to remove yourself from their life?
There is this girl I work with, more than just work with, I sit next to her all day every day. We are both secretaries, and I can't really just quit my job to get away from her. It seems though the more goodness I try to draw into myself and the more in line with the LOO that I try to become, the more my existence bothers her. She has started sending me nasty sms' every day saying how my "niceness" wont work on her, and accusing me of having emotional issues, and talking about how I'm not professional and I have a bad attitude - seriously my only issue is that I keep my head down, keep quiet and work my butt off. The more our bosses start to trust and like me, the more it seems to bother her and she finds more things to have problems with me over and the more she asserts her dominance. She is the "head secretary" though, so if I go to the bosses with this issue I know that they will probably end up firing me, because I've been there less time than she has and she is also good at charming people (she is beautiful and has her own porn site, so everyone sucks up to her - I'm not ugly but I don't give a damn about fashion and clothes and makeup and I don't have any desire for fame and fortune etc, especially her chosen path to get there), so no one else can even see her nastiness except for me. I wouldn't even care about her sts polarization except that she treats me like garbage, and I don't really know what to do about it. I try to just be nice to her anyway, and still make her coffee whenever I'm making one, and sharing my food with her etc, because I figure her behaviour towards me has nothing to do with who I am as a person, and I kind of know that being nice to her is just going to piss her off more coz she wants a reaction out of me.
I can't just quit my job though, I have a family to support. I've even thought about cursing her somehow, but people say that causes "bad karma", so I simply do not know how to handle this situation. Any suggestions??
p.s oops i thought i was in the life on planet earth thread, feel free to move it if necessary
Oh, I can so relate! I have experienced situations in which the nicer I was, the more the person resented me! My husband told me, "They are jealous of your light...your light is exposing their own darkness and it's making them uncomfortable." I think he was right.
In my experience, those people really didn't want me to be nice to them, and in fact, the more I was extra nice, the more I was imposing on their free will. Remember what Ra said about STS entities? That green ray love is very uncomfortable for them? (Actually it was said in much stronger language, but I don't remember the exact quote.) Assuming that she might actually be STS...or, more likely, just a typical mixed-polarity person who isn't ready to face her self...which is being reflected to her by you.
I wish I had an easy answer for you...but I don't. All I can do is offer a few suggestions:
Be true to yourself, but don't go out of your way to be extra nice to her. Be nice, yes, but don't fall prey to the idea that being extra nice is going to bring her around. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. So don't be attached to any outcome. Just totally accept her for who she is, while totally being firm in who you are. But being extra nice, for the purpose of getting her to change, could actually be a subtle form of manipulation; ie. trying to change her by being nice, see? Don't try to change her. Accept her for who she is. This is where she's at. BUT, at the same time, don't let her drag you down. Don't let her manipulate you either. Just be yourself, and quit letting her have any power over you. It doesn't matter if she doesn't like you...if she's jealous of you...or whatever her issue with you is. Just love and accept her, which includes loving and accepting the fact that she doesn't seem to like you. Loving and accepting HER being that way does NOT mean you let her have power over you! You must establish a boundary. This might not be physically, but might just be psychically. Put a bubble of light around you every morning before you get to work, so that your aura is strengthened and she can't penetrate it.
You might also ask yourself is there is something about her that really rubs you the wrong way, separate from the way she treats you. Her involvement in porn, maybe? I once had a customer who was a stripper. At first, I had a hard time with that. It bothered me that she stripped for married men, with no regard for their wives. It took great effort for me to see her as a person, and accept her as an other-self even though I didn't accept her actions. You might do some introspection to see if there is something like that going on here. If you can get to the root of why you are having trouble accepting her, then you can untangle your karmic ties with her, and resolve the issue of why she isn't accepting you.
In other words, if you want her to accept you, then focus on why you aren't completely accepting her, first, even if you think you are. She is mirroring something to you. Even if it seems like 99% is her fault and only 1% yours, fix your 1% first and you will be amazed at what happens.
I feel for you, Nyu. I know how horrible these work situations can be, when you are stuck in close proximity with someone.
From my experience I would say be friendly, but distant. I would not be too friendly with her. not sure I would share my food with her in that situation.
What is necessary also for you to get yourself some kind of protection. I remember when I was an apprentice, for one week I had to work with two secretaries who scared me to death, all clad in black and looking like vampires and unfriendly and arrogant as could be. Then one day I took a garlic bulb with me in my trouser pocket to work and all of a sudden these two witches were friendly, lol. I made sure to have garlic with me everytime I had to deal with them. It really worked for me.
Do you know the Asian herb Asafoetida? It is also called devil's dung, lol. One of my teachers said it would scare off negative entities. Try to take that with you, or put a bit of it on the table between yourself and her and see how she reacts (it is some kind of a yellowish powder)
Or you could visualize yourself encoated with white light, or a protective pyramid around youself. There are many methods, just pick one which resonates.
Last but not least, maybe you get the chance to work somewhere else in that company? or one day even to have an office of your own? keep your eyes open.
I wish you all the best!
Let her know exactly how you feel and be stern about it. Those types of people need to be told exactly how they are, and you would be surprised how much confrontation puts them in their place (not guaranteed). Having self-love and valuing your requirements is fine but the key is expressing it. Once you express and release those emotions you will feel better but the situation will likely continue given what you said.
Save the text messages..you could even show them to HR and have them make a decision. I would also express your concerns to a trusted coworker so you have someone to confirm your side of things should anything arise. Or you could email me her site and some of your coworkers emails and we could easily fix this problem
just kidding
if she's not totally STS, which is likely, she'll actually develop sympathy for you if you appear to be in need of help, instead of always outshining her. i'm not saying manipulate her, but if there becomes a situation in which you might need her help...ask her. it just seems like she feels your light shows you as a secure and successful person, and her as a b****, and she feels she can attack you because you are strong enough to take it because she feels threatened and is not concerned for your welfare but her own. people tend to put their own welfare first until someone really needs help in which case most people try to help because now you're someone to protect instead of a threat, and it gives them an opportunity to shine their light in a stronger way which is sometimes easier than smiling at a coworker when you're having a crappy day. does this make any sense? if she is more STS she might use it as an opportunity to attack. could go either way. :/ maybe you could try to get to know her better to figure out what the problem is.
(07-04-2011, 09:57 AM)Icaro Wrote: [ -> ]Let her know exactly how you feel and be stern about it. Those types of people need to be told exactly how they are, and you would be surprised how much confrontation puts them in their place (not guaranteed). Having self-love and valuing your requirements is fine but the key is expressing it. Once you express and release those emotions you will feel better but the situation will likely continue given what you said.
Save the text messages..you could even show them to HR and have them make a decision. I would also express your concerns to a trusted coworker so you have someone to confirm your side of things should anything arise. Or you could email me her site and some of your coworkers emails and we could easily fix this problem just kidding
Yes. Be self confident. You can be confident in yourself without being prideful or confrontational.
Also, try to see things from her point of view. She doesn't have any power over you, so there is nothing to fear. You can love her for her ignorance of love.
Some visualization about consciously using the green ray helps: No only for these types of situations but to keep you focused.
One aligns the chakras (imagine them in front of you and each is connected to your spinal cord like through a stem. They are straight and such so the violet chakra's stem then is pointed in an angle..because it comes right form the top of your head....I suppose distance could be a couple feet from you and chakras aligned.
Green light/love is what makes things manifest (among other properties such as healing). Supply is infinite. It comes to you through heart chakra. Imagine a emerald/green light shaft coming to that chakra...so enters the chakra passes through the stem to the spinal cord, goes up through the cord to the top of the head and flows like a fountain surrounding you in a dome of this light...make it as large as you wish..but keep it dense.
Negatives need to penetrate this (physical or non-physical negs) and it depolarizes them. They could even become positive...they need to back off.
They can keep trying but eventually they will decide to find an easier target.
Keep this dome 24/7 if you want. Send this light deep inside the Earth as well...through the mantle...Make this light rest inside a part of your body for any healing purposes...Lots of uses...
Hope that helps.
I forgot to mention that "praying" asking for help is important if the case needs this, simply because you consciously manifest your free will.
By the way, I've noticed people on here mentioning that some entities were positive by the loving-energy experience they imparted, for example. This is a naive mistake potentially, as the negative entity can instill 'universal love' or feeling of joy in you by merely stimulating your heart chakra. This does not make them positive. They can use green energy even moreso than a so-called positive STO entity. They just choose to reject it for themselves.
(07-04-2011, 12:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]By the way, I've noticed people on here mentioning that some entities were positive by the loving-energy experience they imparted, for example. This is a naive mistake potentially, as the negative entity can instill 'universal love' or feeling of joy in you by merely stimulating your heart chakra. This does not make them positive. They can use green energy even moreso than a so-called positive STO entity. They just choose to reject it for themselves.
it is possible that entities which are of 4d and lover vibration may mistake a negative entity as positive due to the possible initial energy transfer that would happen in the first encounter. the positive entity would feel its chakras able to give out energy while the negative receives, and the positive entity may mistake the feeling of these for something else.
with prolonged exposure the drain on the positive entity would start to tire the entity and the situation would be rather obvious to informed observer, even if not the positive entity itself.
(07-04-2011, 12:27 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]By the way, I've noticed people on here mentioning that some entities were positive by the loving-energy experience they imparted, for example. This is a naive mistake potentially, as the negative entity can instill 'universal love' or feeling of joy in you by merely stimulating your heart chakra. This does not make them positive. They can use green energy even moreso than a so-called positive STO entity. They just choose to reject it for themselves.
it is possible that entities which are of 4d and lover vibration may mistake a negative entity as positive due to the possible initial energy transfer that would happen in the first encounter. the positive entity would feel its chakras able to give out energy while the negative receives, and the positive entity may mistake the feeling of these for something else.
There is certainly that case, but also the case of the negative entity simply manipulating the energy of the contactee to induce a desired thought or feeling for control purposes. What the contactee may think is coming from a mutual bonding-beingness (uh, cause it 'resonates') is hardly the case. Yet they may mistake it as being so, because the charge is interpreted positively. But the negative entity
knows this and will attempt to use the (intense) loving confusion thus created to their advantage.
Zenmaster,
Sure, it is possible. None of us have ANY WAY of knowing it. None. Let's not view ourselves as week and frail in the face of catalyst. Sounds like you want me to worry and cautiously fear any loving interaction by deeming my own loving vibration as inferior.
Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
Those reactions benefit the negatives if interaction focus on yellow ray and below. Forn example, the green ray in this case is used as protective ray since one is aware of negative presence. No lower rays are brought into action in this case. The manipulation of negs occur using 3 lower chakras in regular 3D interactions. "Positive" yellow emisions might be confused by "love" by naives. It is just yellow ray manipulation.
(07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]None of us have ANY WAY of knowing it.
Incorrect.
(07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]Let's not view ourselves as week and frail in the face of catalyst. Sounds like you want me to worry and cautiously fear any loving interaction by deeming my own loving vibration as inferior.
No, this is no personal matter. It's just a fact of what negative entities can do.
(07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
The obvious advantage is manipulation or confusion by creating an association with what one 'thinks' is desirable and that which is offered as 'truth'.
if a negative entity is offered love aren't they gonna recoil?
(07-04-2011, 12:51 PM)Oceania Wrote: [ -> ]if a negative entity is offered love aren't they gonna recoil?
It depends on what you are defining as 'love'. If it's love of self, probably not. That would probably encourage it.
(07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]None of us have ANY WAY of knowing it.
Incorrect.
LOL. What I mean is that we don't have any way of knowing the polarization of any entity.
(07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
The obvious advantage is manipulation or confusion by creating an association with what one 'thinks' is desirable and that which is offered as 'truth'.
You present this information as though the object of manipulation has no sway toward the desired manipulator. That's what baffles me.
Green ray is a powerful ray...healing...love...manifestation...dignity...
As long as it is not interpreted as "romantic love" and being aware that negs use the red/orange/yellow to manipulate should work. Main point not to use negative yellow or orange (getting mad...etc) since they are able to manipulate those situations very well.
No to say that if you react that way you are using self-centered approach.
(07-04-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]None of us have ANY WAY of knowing it.
Incorrect.
LOL. What I mean is that we don't have any way of knowing the polarization of any entity.
You know what you want and want you don't want. And this becomes clearer through polarization. Typically, the positively polarized entity will not place an implant under your skin or use invasive methods for their ends.
(07-04-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
The obvious advantage is manipulation or confusion by creating an association with what one 'thinks' is desirable and that which is offered as 'truth'.
You present this information as though the object of manipulation has no sway toward the desired manipulator. That's what baffles me.
No one said that.
(07-04-2011, 01:01 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
The obvious advantage is manipulation or confusion by creating an association with what one 'thinks' is desirable and that which is offered as 'truth'.
You present this information as though the object of manipulation has no sway toward the desired manipulator. That's what baffles me.
No one said that.
I continue to be confused by your words. I have no idea what you are saying.
(07-04-2011, 12:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:27 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]By the way, I've noticed people on here mentioning that some entities were positive by the loving-energy experience they imparted, for example. This is a naive mistake potentially, as the negative entity can instill 'universal love' or feeling of joy in you by merely stimulating your heart chakra. This does not make them positive. They can use green energy even moreso than a so-called positive STO entity. They just choose to reject it for themselves.
it is possible that entities which are of 4d and lover vibration may mistake a negative entity as positive due to the possible initial energy transfer that would happen in the first encounter. the positive entity would feel its chakras able to give out energy while the negative receives, and the positive entity may mistake the feeling of these for something else.
There is certainly that case, but also the case of the negative entity simply manipulating the energy of the contactee to induce a desired thought or feeling for control purposes. What the contactee may think is coming from a mutual bonding-beingness (uh, cause it 'resonates') is hardly the case. Yet they may mistake it as being so, because the charge is interpreted positively. But the negative entity knows this and will attempt to use the (intense) loving confusion thus created to their advantage.
i think the below quote highlights exactly the point zenmaster is making, particularly the concept of loving-confusion.
Quote:72.16
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We of Ra approach this instrument in narrow band contact through violet-ray. Others might pierce down through this ray to any energy center. We, for instance, make great use of this instrument’s blue-ray energy center as we are attempting to communicate our distortion/understandings of the Law of One.
The entity of Orion pierces the same violet-ray and moves to two places to attempt most of its non-physical opportunities. It activates the green-ray energy center while further blocking indigo-ray energy center. This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings. It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.
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it does seem odd at first to think a negative entity would actually desire to activate another entities heart chakra, but over-activation or unbalanced activation/blockage of chakras even if it involves activation of green is just another tool whereby negative entities can achieve their end purpose of control and manipulation. They don't shy away from green ray activation in other people, but as zenmaster stated they just reject it for themselves.
Wow thanks for all the help guys. She is not unpolarized, definitely sts, I've spent a long time thinking about it and trying to see the goodness in her, but it doesn't seem to be there - the reason why she thinks I'm emotionally unstable is because once I made the mistake of being teary in front of her when my son was being bullied, and then again when my friend got cancer - she thought that my being upset was "erratic" (even though she has cried at work too, but she forgets about that). The porn thing deep down I do find kind of gross, but I've been supportive of it and really if she was a nice person that wouldn't even bother me. The grossness is amplified by her negativity.
Anyway LOL at the garlic idea, I'm so totally doing that today haha. And I'm also going to visualise the white light, and oh how I WISH Icaro's suggestion of help could be utilized
Thanks again, I'll let you all know what happens. xoxo
Ps Raman, so I'm just visualizing green ray energy going in through my heart chakra and flowing out through the crown? I'll try that too.
Love and Blessings, Nyu
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Thank you, spero!
So, zenmaster and unity100, you are just restating this Ra quote in your own way?
What benefit is it to know this, in your opinion?
(07-04-2011, 05:25 PM)spero Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:27 PM)unity100 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011, 12:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]By the way, I've noticed people on here mentioning that some entities were positive by the loving-energy experience they imparted, for example. This is a naive mistake potentially, as the negative entity can instill 'universal love' or feeling of joy in you by merely stimulating your heart chakra. This does not make them positive. They can use green energy even moreso than a so-called positive STO entity. They just choose to reject it for themselves.
it is possible that entities which are of 4d and lover vibration may mistake a negative entity as positive due to the possible initial energy transfer that would happen in the first encounter. the positive entity would feel its chakras able to give out energy while the negative receives, and the positive entity may mistake the feeling of these for something else.
There is certainly that case, but also the case of the negative entity simply manipulating the energy of the contactee to induce a desired thought or feeling for control purposes. What the contactee may think is coming from a mutual bonding-beingness (uh, cause it 'resonates') is hardly the case. Yet they may mistake it as being so, because the charge is interpreted positively. But the negative entity knows this and will attempt to use the (intense) loving confusion thus created to their advantage.
i think the below quote highlights exactly the point zenmaster is making, particularly the concept of loving-confusion.
Quote:72.16
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We of Ra approach this instrument in narrow band contact through violet-ray. Others might pierce down through this ray to any energy center. We, for instance, make great use of this instrument’s blue-ray energy center as we are attempting to communicate our distortion/understandings of the Law of One.
The entity of Orion pierces the same violet-ray and moves to two places to attempt most of its non-physical opportunities. It activates the green-ray energy center while further blocking indigo-ray energy center. This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings. It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.
...
it does seem odd at first to think a negative entity would actually desire to activate another entities heart chakra, but over-activation or unbalanced activation/blockage of chakras even if it involves activation of green is just another tool whereby negative entities can achieve their end purpose of control and manipulation. They don't shy away from green ray activation in other people, but as zenmaster stated they just reject it for themselves.
That applied to the 5d negative entity lurking around at that time... and Carla then was not only in trance but 5d/6d entities able to use violet chakra entry and really mess things up...including transporting to negative time-space.
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Ps Raman, so I'm just visualizing green ray energy going in through my heart chakra and flowing out through the crown? I'll try that too.
Please read all post...you form a dome all around you and you can also make go down deep in earth, traveling with you as you walk, etc. Very protective in my opinion. It is also a ray of manifestation so think "good thoughts"...
there is a lot of information in the material to identify negative or non-positive interaction.
these are not information about galactic history. pointing them out and doing 1-2 q/a reading wont avail. it is necessary to re-read the relevant books, especially 2 and 3, if you are actually needing to have them pointed out.
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Yes Bring4th_Monica, "They are jealous of your light...your light is exposing their own darkness and it's making them uncomfortable."
I couldn't say that better !
(07-05-2011, 01:45 AM)ExperiencedGhost Wrote: [ -> ]Yes Bring4th_Monica, "They are jealous of your light...your light is exposing their own darkness and it's making them uncomfortable."
I couldn't say that better !
My husband gets the credit for that one!
(07-04-2011, 07:45 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]So, zenmaster and unity100, you are just restating this Ra quote in your own way?
I've known about it prior to reading it in the material, through others and my own experiences, so you can look at it as restating the quote.
(07-04-2011, 07:45 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: [ -> ]What benefit is it to know this, in your opinion?
The benefit, in my opinion, is to apply discernment to experience. We are all one, but know what is you and what is 'not you'. When there is fear, know where it comes from and when there is 'love', know where that originates and how that flows. It's remarkably simple, since nothing is hidden that we don't wish to be hidden. But unless and until we know ourselves, we are subject to the vagaries and imbalance of the unconscious and the free will of others choices.
(07-04-2011, 08:44 PM)Raman Wrote: [ -> ]That applied to the 5d negative entity lurking around at that time... and Carla then was not only in trance but 5d/6d entities able to use violet chakra entry and really mess things up...including transporting to negative time-space.
Yes, and what did happen? Was regular ol' love involved? Were lessons learned because of it? Was it ever supposed to not happen or be avoided?
" It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state."
They are always here with us, and we all have cracks in our distortions.
Also, we don't know until we do know.