(09-09-2011, 04:36 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: [ -> ]I'm pretty sure Jim wasn't there when the session started. I don't know if he joined in after he unpacked the groceries. I believe that the session was actually supposed to be a teaching session for Carla's student Leonard and that the only people who were there were Carla, Don, and Leonard.
As far as L/L knew going into the session, it was going to be another conscious channeling session with Hatonn, Latwii, or someone like that. They didn't know Ra would speak instead.
You're referring to session 17, right? So Carla was still doing conscious channelings during the whole time of the Ra sessions? This explains the presence of a student, whereas otherwise, I'm assuming, they would have been careful to not have others present. Is my assumption correct? Was this an unusual occurrence? Or were there other occasions in which others besides the 3 were present?
From what I know, from my bit of dabbling in magickal ritual, once a circle is cast, it shouldn't be interrupted by people coming and going. If I were doing any sort of magickal ritual, I would be very concerned about the purity of it, if the phone rang, or the doorbell rang, or something like that. This has happened to me, and I recovered from it, but the energy was definitely shaken up, no question about it, because my focus wavered.
If I were doing the Banishing Ritual, and got interrupted, I wouldn't consider the circle to be impermeable. Ask any magician, and they would likely agree.
What is the purpose of the ritual circle? To create a safe space for working. Even had the circle been cast without error, the assumption is that focus will be contained within the circle, for the duration of the ritual. Else, the person's attention focused outside the circle, could, reasonably, break the circle.
If I perform the Banishing Ritual, the whole point is that I will be focused within the circle. If I then walked out of it, or just projected my focus to the telephone in the other room, I wouldn't dream of continuing the ritual at that point, but would reinforce any possible breach. NOT because the phone rang, which I could have successfully ignored with enough intent, but because I allowed myself to be distracted by it and thus projected my energy outside the circle.
In this case, we have not 1, but 2 possible breaches: the interruption and continued noise of Jim unloading groceries, and the presence of the student. Even had Don remained focused during the interruption, did the student? And, did the student's very presence change the dynamic? How could it not?
Knowing that they didn't know it was to be a Ra session, of course it was unintentional that this interruption happened. However, that doesn't change the fact that there was an interruption. Not only that, but there was another person present!!!
Ra commented on the harmony between Don, Carla and Jim, and why this was so important to the contact. How could another person being present NOT affect the contact? At the very least, as Tenet surmises, additional, unnecessary confusion may have resulted.
Having said all that, I personally don't have any issues with the 2011 date, and don't necessarily believe it was erroneous. I don't accept all Q'uo channelings as infallible - there are a few I decidedly disagree with, for very specific reasons - but I find this particular one to have a high degree of resonance. So to me, this entire debate is rather moot, at this point, regarding 2011. I am ok with a specific date of harvest occurring very very soon, because I don't believe harvest to be global catastrophe or death for everyone, but a demarcation indicating the Earth has successfully moved into 4D vibrations, and thus a cut-off point for polarizing. The gate closes, and no new souls can enter for the purpose of polarizing. However, those already incarnate, can likely complete their work during the transition period. This is my view because it makes the most sense, given all the facts as well as observations about the planet in general, my own life, etc. I readily admit that this scenario is appealing to me, but I don't consider that denial, in light of my belief that we live in a holographic reality and thus my beliefs are not only acceptable, but necessary, in creating the reality of my choice.
Having said all that, nevertheless, I agree with Icaro's original premise on 2 counts: 1) The Law of One contains a vast richness of allegory that we haven't even begun to tap, and 2) that it's possible of Ra's statements may have, at the very least, been slightly distorted to the point of some degree of compromising the purity of intended meaning.
I don't think any STS entity totally took over the contact, to the degree of blatant errors. But remember, STS entities have their function too. They think they are serving self, but ultimately, they serve us as well, by providing catalyst. As we near that tipping point date, just a couple of months from now, or maybe even sooner since the date was only an approximation, what does it mean to have more 4D light? Our deepest fears and resistances are surfacing, for the purpose of being balanced and healed! Any influence from any STS entity who may have breached the circle, ultimately serves an important purpose for us, by providing us the mechanism by which these issues are brought to the surface.
I readily admit that I succumbed, momentarily, to fear, not from this thread, but a few days prior, when I was researching Elenin. Then, I realized what was happening, and I made a conscious choice to find the love in the present moment, and to realize the power of who I am, and my ability to exist on the timeline of my choice. Within a minute of making this shift in my thinking, I found data to support my new thinking.
Note: The data didn't eliminate my fear. My own conscious elimination of fear - my own conscious choice to NOT feed the fear - is what manifested the data!
This happens frequently for me. I am at a nexus, and I consciously know that my choice will result in 3D reality - MY perception of 3D reality, which is the only perception that matters to me at that point - rearranges itself like a grand kaleidoscope, to accommodate me.
No, I can't change an apple into a banana. We don't "create our reality" to that degree. But to a subtle degree, we do.
We all do this, whether consciously or not. We ALL make the data fit, according to our choices. We live in an illusion, in the density of Choice. Q'uo has indicated that we are much, much more powerful in molding our realities, than we realize, even to the point of saying that we each have the power to literally change the world. Only by realizing Oneness, that we really do affect one another, can we actually do that. We're a long ways from that realization, unfortunately, but the concept remains, and can be applied in our daily, personal lives, if not on a global scale.
I have no delusions of changing the world overnight to a peaceful, harmonious existence. I am fully aware that I'm not there yet. But the principle still applies, and I can take baby steps in my own immediate sphere of influence.
The point I'm getting at here is that it isn't denial, to make the quotes 'fit' our biases, but actually part of the process of Choice. We each do this to some degree, and that's ok. Not only is it ok, but necessary to the greater purpose.
It's more important that we realize how powerful our choices are, than to get the 'correct' interpretation of data. I cannot speak for Ra but I think Ra would agree with this.
