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Is Yahweh a social memory complex according to the LOO?
I found this awesome dedication video to Yahweh. What they term creator god Yahweh, is probably what we are calling the One Infinite Creator, or maybe could be the God that created OUR universe. Funny I tried to post this before but it just came back as a white box.
This brought tears to my eyes the first time I saw it, especially because I had just awakened majorly, and saw the beauty within myself. There is much beauty here I had never seen before.

I see God as a part of the One Infinite Creator who specifically created THIS universe. But Yahweh is a mystery to me.

The were named as a confederation group. Responsible for providing genetic material now, and apparently in the future. They were experimenting with us.

Hi GW,

Page about Yahweh to be found ... there.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?sea...&ss=1&sc=1

Always the way if through the Heart....

(12-14-2011, 08:49 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]I found this awesome dedication video to Yahweh. ... This brought tears to my eyes the first time I saw it, especially because I had just awakened majorly, and saw the beauty within myself. There is much beauty here I had never seen before.

There is. All the beauty of the world is within. I am glad you saw it.

Quote:I see God as a part of the One Infinite Creator who specifically created THIS universe. But Yahweh is a mystery to me.

Yahweh is another entity and, it is always sensible to refrain from calling another entity at first. The only spirit who is seeking you rightfully is your Higher Self or Holy Spirit. and, this is the inner connection which needs strengthening.

Enjoy the beauty, GW!

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Tell me if I'm right in this, that when a star goes supernova and creates a black hole, another Universe is created within the resulting black hole that continues to expand in that universe.

Is the process of going supernova, reunion with Creator/God?

And the matter that gets fed into a black hole, goes to feeding the new universe?

That the black hole pulls in space/time, and creates new space/time in the next Universe?

I'm thinking the supernova here, creates a big bang of the new universe.

And that time is different in our Universe vs the new universe that is created.

The new universe could be the creation of a new Octave.

(12-15-2011, 10:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]Tell me if I'm right in this, that when a star goes supernova and creates a black hole, another Universe is created within the resulting black hole that continues to expand in that universe.

Not all supernovas result in the formation of a black hole, some times what is left over is a neutron star. Such a star may be small, have a very high rotation speed, be extremely magnetic and have an extreme amount of gravity (but not enough so that it would collapse in on itself (see: black hole))

(12-15-2011, 10:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]Is the process of going supernova, reunion with Creator/God?

I would rather state that entering a black hole is the same. The supernova enables this to occur by creating the hole as it explodes. Check this out:

Quote:29.18 Questioner: I sometimes have difficulty in getting a foothold into what I am looking for. I am trying to seek out the metaphysical principles, you might say, behind our physical illusion. Could you give me an example of the amount of gravity in the third density conditions at the surface of the planet Venus? Would it be greater or less than Earth’s?

Ra: I am Ra. The gravity, shall we say, the attractive force which we also describe as the pressing outward force towards the Creator is greater spiritually upon the entity you call Venus due to the greater degree of success, shall we say, at seeking the Creator.

This point only becomes important when you consider that when all of creation in its infinity has reached a spiritual gravitational mass of sufficient nature, the entire creation infinitely coalesces; the light seeking and finding its source and thusly ending the creation and beginning a new creation much as you consider the black hole, as you call it, with its conditions of infinitely great mass at the zero point from which no light may be seen as it has been absorbed.

Category: Science: Astronomy

29.19 Questioner: Then the black hole would be a point at which the environmental material has succeeded in uniting with unity or with the Creator? Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The black hole which manifests third density is the physical complex manifestation of this spiritual or metaphysical state. This is correct.

Category: Science: Astronomy

And a little bit more on gravity here:

Quote:29.16 Questioner: Can you tell me how the gravity comes about?

Ra: I am Ra. This that you speak of as gravity may be seen as the pressing towards the inner light/love , the seeking towards the spiral line of light which progresses towards the Creator. This is a manifestation of a spiritual event or condition of living-ness.

(12-15-2011, 10:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]And the matter that gets fed into a black hole, goes to feeding the new universe?

Not exactly. In the long run, yes, but I believe what Ra says to this matter is that the next octave is not created until the entire creation has absorbed again in to the One Creator (via black holes). More on this here (sorry, it's long):

Quote:40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this which is made up of the frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which becomes, on the other side, another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?
Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.

At the time Ra told this to the L/L group I'm willing to bet Don was thinking about a theory that Stephen Hawking proposed in the 70's, which is "the big crunch". It's essentially the reverse of the big bang, where all the matter that has been ejected at the start of the octave slows down, stops, and falls back in on itself. Very elegant- but present day cosmology states that this can't happen thanks to a mysterious force of expansion in the universe called 'dark energy'. This energy is actually * accelerating* matter further apart at an ever high rate.

There is a a theory in mainstream science however that sounds awfully like what Ra tells us. It is Roger Penrose's cyclical cosmology. If you're up for it, here's an awesome (and long) explanation by the man himself:



In short, the universe continues until the only thing left are blackholes (this takes a very, very, very, very, very long time). Once there is nothing left to absorb the blackholes undergo an evaporation process via Hawking Radiation. eventually after yet another unfathomably long time goes by, all the blackholes are gone and the universe is pretty much cold and empty with no features whatsoever. Essentially this is the exact same environment that scientists theorize existed just prior to the big bang, and with such circumstances another big bang would occur. (Ra would probably say that all was reunited with the One Infinite Creator and that all that exists is potential or Intelligent Infinity.

(12-15-2011, 10:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]That the black hole pulls in space/time, and creates new space/time in the next Universe?

I'm thinking the supernova here, creates a big bang of the new universe.

And that time is different in our Universe vs the new universe that is created.

The new universe could be the creation of a new Octave.

My understanding from what Ra says regarding Octaves is that they happen "one after another", so to speak. So once everything is wrapped up here another shall begin. Of course I encourage you to see this as a very limited understanding since we know that there are states of "timelessness" in which saying that something happens after another really is meaningless altogether. SO perhaps you are right, or somehow we both are. The good news is we'll find out some day, far off in the future!

From what I can remember (need to do some re-research), Yahweh was assumed by multiple entities in its understanding on earth as well.

The "Creator" Yahweh is a totally different entity Yahweh than who Abraham/Moses dealt with. If I remember correct, the original Yahweh was the sub-logos put in charge of the earth and was very positively polarized. This leads us to the Garden of Eden and the Fall, where the Logos above Yahweh sends the serpent (Orion group) to break the game open and offer the negative path, as Yahweh had failed to do so by creating paradise. Upon realization that Lucifer had been allowed to meddle in their affairs, the "original" Yahweh apparently took off (who knows why? perceived as a failed experiment?).

The identity of Yahweh was then assumed by the Orion group which helped create the Old Testament God of the Bible. This explains the negative slant and vengeful temper of the OT Yahweh, according to Ra anyways. I have found all of this topic very interesting regarding the sub-logos and interventions. There is a good amount of gnostic writings that agree with these concepts as well. Gives names and personalities to them as well, which is great fun for those with imaginations

The Law of One Search Results for 'yahweh'

Quote:17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?

Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.

This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.

This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus.

18.14 Questioner: Can you tell me how Yahweh communicated to Earth’s people?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a somewhat complex question.

The first communication was what you would call genetic. The second communication was the walking among your peoples to produce further genetic changes in consciousness. The third was a series of dialogues with chosen channels.

18.15 Questioner: Can you tell me what these genetic changes were and how they were brought about?

Ra: I am Ra. Some of these genetic changes were in a form similar to what you call the cloning process. Thus, entities incarnated in the image of the Yahweh entities. The second was a contact of the nature you know as sexual, changing the mind/body/spirit complex through the natural means of the patterns of reproduction devised by the intelligent energy of your physical complex.

18.16 Questioner: Can you tell me specifically what they did in this case?

Ra: I am Ra. We have answered this question. Please restate for further information.

18.17 Questioner: Can you tell me the difference between the sexual programming prior to Yahweh’s intervention and after intervention?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a question which we can only answer by stating that intervention by genetic means is the same no matter what the source of this change.

18.18 Questioner: Can you tell me Yahweh’s purpose in making the genetic sexual changes?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose 75,000 years ago, as you measure time, was of one purpose only: that to express in the mind/body complex those characteristics which would lead to further and more speedy development of the spiritual complex.

18.19 Questioner: How did these characteristics go about leading to the more spiritual development?

Ra: I am Ra. The characteristics which were encouraged included sensitivity of all the physical senses to sharpen the experiences, and the strengthening of the mind complex in order to promote the ability to analyze these experiences.

18.20 Questioner: When did Yahweh act to perform the genetic changes?

Ra: I am Ra. The Yahweh group worked with those of the planet you call Mars 75000 years ago in what you would call the cloning process. There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion.

The 2600, approximately, time was the second time—we correct ourselves: 3600—approximately, the time of attempts by those of the Orion group during this cultural complex; this was a series of encounters in which the ones called Anak were impregnated with the new genetic coding by your physical complex means so that the organisms would be larger and stronger.

18.21 Questioner: Why did they want larger and stronger organisms?

Ra: I am Ra. The ones of Yahweh were attempting to create an understanding of the Law of One by creating mind/body complexes capable of grasping the Law of One. The experiment was a decided failure from the view of the desired distortions due to the fact that rather than assimilating the Law of One, it was a great temptation to consider the so-called social complex or subcomplex elite or different and better than other-selves, this one of the techniques of service to self.

18.22 Questioner: Then the Orion group produced this larger body complex to create an elite so that the Law of One could be applied in what we call the negative sense?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The entities of Yahweh were responsible for this procedure in isolated cases as experiments in combating the Orion group.

However, the Orion group were able to use this distortion of mind/body complex to inculcate the thoughts of the elite rather than concentrations upon the learning/teaching of oneness.

18.23 Questioner: Was Yahweh then of the Confederation?

Ra: I am Ra. Yahweh was of the Confederation but was mistaken in its attempts to aid.

18.24 Questioner: Then Yahweh’s communications did not help or create what Yahweh wished for them to create. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The results of this interaction were quite mixed. Where the entities were of a vibrational sum characteristic which embraced oneness, the manipulations of Yahweh were very useful. Wherein the entities of free will had chosen a less positively oriented configuration of sum total vibratory complex, those of the Orion group were able for the first time to make serious inroads upon the consciousness of the planetary complex.

18.25 Questioner: Can you tell me specifically what allowed the most serious of these inroads to be made by the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final full question.

Specifically those who are strong, intelligent, etc., have a temptation to feel different from those who are less intelligent and less strong. This is a distorted perception of oneness with otherselves. It allowed the Orion group to form the concept of the holy war, as you may call it. This is a seriously distorted perception. There were many of these wars of a destructive nature.

24.3 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume that the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact that the Confederation made?

Ra: I am Ra. In approximately 3,600 of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of 3,300 years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined.

24.5 Questioner: Then Yahweh, in an attempt to correct what I might call a mistake (I know you don’t want to call it that), started 3,300 years ago a positive philosophy. Were the Orion and Yahweh philosophies impressed telepathically, or were there other techniques used?

Ra: I am Ra. There were two other techniques used: one by the entity no longer called Yahweh, who still felt that if it could raise up entities which were superior to the negative forces, that these superior entities could spread the Law of One. Thus this entity, “Yod-Heh-Shin-Vau-Heh,” came among your people in form according to incarnate being and mated in the normal reproductive manner of your physical complexes, thus birthing a generation of much larger beings, these beings called “Anak.”

The other method used to greater effect later in the scenario, as you would call it, was the thought-form such as we often use among your peoples to suggest the mysterious or the sublime. You may be familiar with some of these appearances.

24.6 Questioner: Could you state some of those?

Ra: I am Ra. This is information which you may discover. However, we will briefly point the way by indicating the so-called wheel within a wheel and the cherubim with sleepless eye.

60.17 Questioner: Thank you. I don’t know if this question will result in any useful information, but I feel that I must ask it. What was the ark of the covenant, and what was its use?

Ra: I am Ra. The ark of the covenant was that place wherein those things most holy, according to the understanding of the one called Moishe, were placed. The article placed therein has been called by your peoples two tablets called the Ten Commandments. There were not two tablets. There was one writing in scroll. This was placed along with the most carefully written accounts by various entities of their beliefs concerning the creation by the One Creator.

This ark was designed to constitute the place wherefrom the priests, as you call those distorted towards the desire to serve their brothers, could draw their power and feel the presence of the One Creator. However, it is to be noted that this entire arrangement was designed, not by the one known to the Confederation as Yahweh, but rather was designed by negative entities preferring this method of creating an elite called the Sons of Levi.

74.19 Questioner: How did the users of these sounds, Sanskrit and Hebrew, determine what these sounds were?

Ra: I am Ra. In the case of the Hebrew that entity known as Yahweh aided this knowledge through impression upon the material of genetic coding which became language, as you call it.

In the case of Sanskrit the sound vibrations are pure due to the lack of previous, what you call, alphabet or letter-naming. Thus the sound vibration complexes seemed to fall into place as from the Logos. This was a more, shall we say, natural or unaided situation or process.

We would at this time make note of the incident in the previous working where our contact was incorrectly placed for a short period and was then corrected. In the exercise of the fire you may see the initial spiral clockwise from the green-ray energy center, through the shoulders and head, then through the elbows, then to the left hand. The channel had been corrected before the remainder of this answer was completed.

Is there a brief query at this time?