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taken from http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._1219.aspx

I apologise for this long long quotation, but I had never heard of this concept before, and thought I'd share.

thanks

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Group question: What exactly is a time lateral and how is it created?

(Carla channeling)


You ask this day concerning the nature of the time lateral that we have talked about previously with this group. The creation of such a shunt or rail for an alternate track along space/time within your local sector, which you call your solar system, was created for the same kind of reason that a railroad switching station would employ shunts or lateral track systems to hold trains that have, for one reason or another, lost their initial engine. The formation of this sidetrack is that which is created to be precisely parallel to the main track of the solar system which is now finishing an important part of its evolution through its own part of the densities of creation. It was intended to last until your year, approximately 1998. It was provided with the opportunity to link back to the main track of your solar system’s development at that time.

Because of the energies of groups such as yours and many others across your planetary sphere, the ability of this shunt or time lateral to maintain traffic across the normal boundaries of your solar system’s and your planet’s development [has been enhanced.]

There have been energies which have been called forth amongst many of those upon your planet who have been inspired to help in the goal of maintaining the openness of this reconnection point which this instrument feels comfortable calling a bridge. It is a bit easier for us to give her images of a bridge and the way that bridges can be closed because of incoming traffic. For instance, if a bridge is across a river and is split in the middle, it may raise up and allow a tall ship to come through. This is the basic situation with your shunt at this time. It is on the verge of becoming time to raise that bridge and to allow other traffic and other energies to pass athwart or in such a way that that bridge cannot endure.

And let us be specific concerning the nature of this time lateral. It is not a time lateral that concerns the planet as a whole. The planet as a whole is unimpeded in its entry into fourth density. The energies of a living third-density system have been encouraged to continue for the approximate ten to twelve years further that this shunt can stay physically open in terms of space/time. This is to say that, by the energies of unconditional love which are generated by the prayers, meditations and visualizations of groups such as this one, the bridge or reconnection point has been maintained for those who would wish to awaken and make their choice of polarity by the date which has been set as the last possible date to keep this connection point open, which, as we have said before and still find to be true, is the date of the winter solstice of the year 2012.

This cannot be said to be precise. It is not known to us just when the last entity will be able to cross that bridge. The choice of many entities is involved in maintaining such a bridge. And indeed the traffic across the bridge of those who awaken and make their choice also has its part in keeping the bridge open until the last possible moment. The more traffic upon that bridge and the more guardians who stand watch along the bridge, holding and anchoring the incoming light of fourth density on the one hand, and acknowledging, honoring and blessing the waning light of third density on the other hand, the fuller the harvest may be. This is the entire core of the exercise of creating this time lateral.

Let us talk to a certain extent about this time lateral and how it came to be necessary. As the ones known as P and B are far more aware than this instrument, there is a separation that is inevitable between higher and lower energies. As fourth density has now completely interpenetrated [third density] and is as active as third density and indeed gaining in energy while third density wanes, the vibration of each of the entities upon planet Earth becomes more and more critical in terms of being able to physically remain viable and functional within the third-density energy that is so heavily overarched and under-girded with the interpenetrating fourth-density energy.

In this environment, third-density entities who have not made their choice become buffeted by the energies that are crashing upon your planet in waves at this time. These waves are all perfectly normal and completely benign: they are a part of the awakening of the morning of the fourth-density day. Nevertheless, these energies have the side effect for the people of the planet of encouraging polarity. If there is a slight choice for service to others, it creates enhanced opportunities to make deeper and firmer choices of service to others and the same is true for those who are service to self. There are increasing and markedly more attractive or seductive opportunities to choose the ways of service to self.

For those who do not wish to make either choice, there is the life[-style] lived precisely as the fifth-density entities who are enthusiastic about maintaining this time lateral wish to keep in place.

So on the one hand you have a well-meaning set of guardians of your planet who, gazing at the difficult time that your planetary tribe has had in achieving graduation, chose to create an enhanced opportunity for a last-ditch effort, shall we say. Wanderers came forward, some of whom have been here for fifty of your years, some forty, some thirty, and so forth. In addition you have entities who have come in the last twenty years or so who are approaching this problem from the fourth-density angle, sending entities such as the one known as P, who have certain activation within fourth density as well as having third-density activated energy. These entities also are those who would wish to maintain this opportunity for the harvesting of as many entities as possible before the time literally runs out.

On the other hand, you have opportunistic entities of a negative polarity from fifth density who have discovered that there is a characteristic of this planet which is unusual and of which they may take advantage. They are busily doing that and have been doing so for some of your time.

The situation about which we speak is this: as we have said before, the planetary population is made up not only of those entities who are native to your planet. For the most part and for the great majority, your planetary population [consists] of those who have been imported from other failed third-density planetary cycles. Many of those upon your planet, then, are those who have either destroyed their planet completely through acts of war using advanced technology or are those who have for one reason or another been unable to finish out their normal cycles upon their native earths. Therefore, you have adopted each other as a kind of mixed bag, shall we say, of many differing planetary origins.

This means that you have the attempt to integrate many differing subconscious or archetypical systems of looking at and structuring information. You do not have a homogeneous population. You have a population that has enormous difficulty in communicating because of the great variety of those groups, speaking in terms of planetary origins, among its tribe.

Nevertheless, the entire gamble of Earth in third density was to see if such a polyglot group of entities could mold themselves into a tribe [with] all embracing planet Earth, all becoming aware of their true situation as regards the need to make a choice of service to others or service to self, and all having a great desire to restore or reconstitute the planet Earth where there was a group karma, shall we say, to be balanced, as so many entities had been involved actively in previous planets where, by their own choices, the planet was damaged, as in the case of Mars, or completely destroyed, as in the case of Maldek.

The first and perhaps the most disastrous of the experiments of rebuilding the tribe of Earth and creating or recreating a level of technology which was well remembered by many entities from previous planetary experiences was that of Atlantis. In this pattern’s outworking, those within Atlantis came to power at a time when their technology had grown sufficiently to offer the opportunity for advanced applications such as crystal technology.

These leaders, instead of embracing the ideals of service to others, embraced what can perhaps be called the path of conditional service. This is a path of service to self which is overlaid heavily by the rhetoric of service to others. It is a situation which initially was innocent. Those involved did not see that rather than polarizing fully service to others there was a good deal of rationalizing and sophistic thinking which justified exceptions to various rules of ethics and [which] involved infringing upon the free will of entities which were considered less valuable or intelligent than others.

This pattern of exclusion and manipulation of entities considered as lesser is the initial point of departure from service-to-others polarity.

Because of these choices, eventually those who had previously created disasters on other planetary spheres created the first disaster upon the sphere of Earth, sinking the continent known as Atlantis. The wise and the clever—that is, those polarized positively and those polarized negatively—managed to remove themselves to other continents in sufficient number that these energies never left your planetary vibration. And if you will examine your written history, you may see a pattern of empire: its building, its maintenance, and its eventual and inevitable destruction, played out again and again.

Into the pattern of this repetitive, self-destructive behavior among the population of planet Earth came those who were watching for the opportunity to present itself to make use of this time lateral. For if entities such as your group are unable to clear the population of your planet from this lateral, there are ways in which the negatively-oriented entities have every hope of keeping the time lateral viable. It would no longer be attached to the main track. That opportunity shall soon be closed. Nevertheless, those that believe that they are in the appropriate place for themselves could choose to remain not polarized either positively or negatively but simply as those who would remain on third-density Earth as it reverts to late second density.

These entities would no longer be enlivened by third-density entities who have the power of free will that could make the choice of service to self or service to others. They would be instinctual, great-ape-type beings who look like you do because that is the genetic pool that now exists upon planet Earth. However, these entities would simply be slaves of a kind that spent their lives living a life much as you now experience it: a life without a good deal of variety, a life that is not concerned with coming into harmony as a planetary system but is only concerned with the tribe of its family and its clan, with protecting the resources of that family and clan, and of defending that family and clan.

What the fifth-density entities, which you may call, as this instrument has jokingly done, “space pirates,” have in mind is simply to have a continuing harvest of food, that food being fear. You may see [the creation of an atmosphere of fear] in your governmental systems in your present culture. Indeed, we find from this instrument’s mind there have been several conversations concerning this precise point recently among those who sit within this circle.

The goal, therefore, of those who wish to aid planet Earth at this time is firstly to express the situation of the choice, without concern for numbers but only with concern for making an appropriate effort to, as this instrument would say, get the word out globally; to share the information of the Confederation as regards this being the density of choice and there being time yet for making that choice.

A secondary effort at this time, but one which will grow increasingly stronger and which will, within the next several of your years, become more important by far than alerting the population of this planet, is the concern for the planet itself. For there are many, many entities upon this planet whose route or road to realization of their true situation involves becoming aware of and responsive to the sad plight of the planet itself and the fact that your culture and your way of life are gradually destroying the viability of this planet.

The desire to change this pattern is a key to the activation of the will to choose in many entities whose energies are unconsciously but deeply involved with connecting with restitution and the energies of stewardship and unconditional love, not so much to the people of the planet as to the planet itself.

That is the situation as we know it with the time lateral at this time. It is not a situation that will endure. We would, however, emphasize that there is no serious disturbance that is even possible to be balanced, either of the planet or of the solar system. There is in progress a desperate gamble on the part of negative entities, as we had mentioned before, to attempt to hijack the time lateral.

Getting information more globally available is the best means of creating a balance to the situation that makes it impossible for this gamble to work. The best help the negative entities have, however, is not negative entities as much as it is the deep sleep of those who are unawakened at this time. It is to the interest of the negative entities that that sleep be continued as untroubled and peaceful as possible.

Energies such as your religious bodies and what this instrument calls the “religious right,” those entities who lean heavily upon dogma and whose teachings are based on fear and judgment, are the leaders of the pack in maintaining the lack of choice among entities who indeed have translated spirituality into a religiosity in which the concern is simply to belong to the appropriate pack and to be a part of that pack by following blindly any directives given by the leaders of that group.

We realize that gazing at this situation, there is the possibility of creating within oneself an easy and seductive anger, or even rage. We would encourage each of you to take this entire situation lightly, to let it slide off your back. This is not a burden for you to pick up. This is not something for which you can be responsible or over which you have any control.

What you have, in terms of your ability to serve at this time, is primarily your own deepening awareness of what it is to choose; what it is to choose so deeply that the rest of your life becomes a joy. What it is to choose so completely that there is no longer the need to spend time questioning whether faith is the answer, whether service is the answer, or whether one particular kind of service is better than another, and so forth. When the choice for service to others has been absolute, there is a knowing that comes. It is a knowing that transcends planning. It is a knowing that includes the awareness that you really do not have control over anything but your own desires, your own will, and your own persistence.

We ask you who wish to serve at this time to look to your own self-awareness and self-knowledge and to be aware and trust completely in the fact that you are part of a web of love. Your work has been effective because you have chosen the very difficult path of working in groups. The energy of the group and the energy of groups of such groups is now that which is challenged to undertake what this instrument has called a new paradigm.

What is that new paradigm, you may ask. But it is not for us to answer the question. It is for you. It is certainly not building upon anything that has been seen before, for the old ways have failed. Yet there stirs within the hearts of so many the sure and absolute knowledge that there is a way to create harmony, power and balance once again at the dusk and the evening of third density. This instrument is fond of saying that she likes to leave a room tidy when she leaves it, as good as it was when she came into it or perhaps even better. That is your work at this time.

You are those who stand as guardians and anchors of light, holding that bridge open, and, by your vibrations and your thoughts, radiating the love and the light of the infinite Creator with your own coloration out into the ambient atmosphere. You are an agent of infection. You are infecting people with the highest and the best of your love. Witness your opportunity to offer your love. You will find, as you attempt to do this, that there is resistance down every path. This is inevitable and ever more inevitable at this fairly radical and extreme point at the end of your cycle that you are now experiencing.

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No comment?
I don't have much to say in response, but I loved the quotation. I seriously appreciate you sharing it with me.

Lately the whole craze over the internet with SOPA and PIPA and Megaupload going down etc. has been both exciting me and causing my a somewhat minor level of stress.

This reading makes it a little more clear to me though that the best thing to do is to just.. see that it isn't my responsibility to change the world, and just to relax and be, and love my friends around me. Things will take care of themselves, and me just being myself will change the world enough.
Wow, Earth reverting to late 2nd density is a scary thing, as is potential that time lateral would no longer be attached to the main track.

I liked this: "What you have, in terms of your ability to serve at this time, is primarily your own deepening awareness of what it is to choose; what it is to choose so deeply that the rest of your life becomes a joy."
lol. I still don't know what a time lateral is. Parallel earth? Parallel dimension? how do things cross over??

a related thread:

2007.02.11 World Events, Failed STS Coup, Rejoining Time-Lateral

which was the 68th thread ever created on these forums ...

there's some history for ya!

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thanks to Zen, Nega, and Gemini for your replies. Deeply deeply appreciated Smile

peace brothers and sisters of sorrow
Reminds me strongly of the split scenario into a planet A(ascencded) and planet B(descended) as talked about in other circles

Georgi Stankov Wrote:1) Planet A will ascend in the 5th dimension [4th density] and

2) Planet B will stay in the present 3d-density, will experience huge material and natural disasters during and after the shift, and will slowly degrade to an even greater density and separation from the Whole.
Quote:those that believe that they are in the appropriate place for themselves could choose to remain not polarized either positively or negatively but simply as those who would remain on third-density Earth as it reverts to late second density.
I think Carla is a bit confused here.

apeiron

A third density entity can live in a 2d environment/planet (it is compatible from the beginning). However, it will be more difficult to express reason, logic, etc more proper of 3d and above or any yellow ray characteristics. However, if the planet does not support yellow ray at all ('reverting') then descendants have to be more second density 'ape-like'. (or no descendants at all, I assume)



It makes no sense that a 3rd-density entity would choose to be born in an environment lacking catalyst. Especially a being that, in order to have that choice, must be at least 'mid 3D' - and also one which is high enough on the seniority list to be incarnate at this time in the first place. The 'orange-ray reversion' that Ra talks about is in the context of polarization or subdensities of 3D. When faced with catalyst (i.e. from 4D 'energies') the 3D being can retreat or progress depending on their will and acceptance. Exactly the same behavior has been discussed in Spiral Dynamics (i.e. threat of terrorism reverts 'orange' to 'blue').

apeiron

They are already here. They did not choose to be born in a 2d planet. That is what Carla is referring to. That's why I said there would be no descendants (3d descendants).

There is no contradiction in what she is saying. Otherwise, you are saying the reverse is 'sudden'. Is the reverse sudden or gradual?
I don't agree with the premise of a 'reverse' with previously self-aware, mid-3D entities becoming non-aware.

apeiron

Actually, that is the least interesting of the topics contained in this session.

The interesting things about this initial post, is how political and how deep it goes into economic and political matters. This is a very important L/L Research channeling session. The flow is uninterrupted and full of information and it correlates with current political events.
(01-24-2012, 11:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]I don't agree with the premise of a 'reverse' with previously self-aware, mid-3D entities becoming non-aware.

I wonder how many (currently) 3d entities are truly 'aware'.
Unity, they're all truly 'aware', by definition.

apeiron

(01-24-2012, 11:54 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]Unity, they're all truly 'aware', by definition.

C'mon, you know what I'm referring to. No need to be dishonest.

Why are you calling me 'unity'? That is argumentum ad hominem.
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This is a December 19, 2005 special session, principle of Q'uo channeling by Carla. Wow, it just correlates so well with current events.
(01-25-2012, 12:21 AM)apeiron Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-24-2012, 11:54 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]Unity, they're all truly 'aware', by definition.

C'mon, you know what I'm referring to. No need to be dishonest.
No, I don't know what you mean.

apeiron

(01-25-2012, 01:04 AM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-25-2012, 12:21 AM)apeiron Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-24-2012, 11:54 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]Unity, they're all truly 'aware', by definition.

C'mon, you know what I'm referring to. No need to be dishonest.
No, I don't know what you mean.

I do not interpret in reading the passage as 'reverting' in the sense you explain it. It is more like a pull to orange characteristics accentuated by lack of yellow characteristics at the planetary level. Obviously these will increase as descendants have bodies that look like ours nowadays but are/will become 2d . Reincarnations on these bodies then won't be from 3d. But this is somewhat concentrating in a possibility that may not occur.

The real question is why can this time lateral be maintained and this relates to current conditions.

These orange characteristics exist today in a population that should have more green or at least advanced yellow, due to economic conditions/governmental oppression, etc. The basis of which are explained in this channeling form Q'uo.

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'And this relates to current conditions'. I mean that it is so difficult to explain in a planet making transition to 4D that there could be a danger of nuclear related outcomes and late events having to do with Iran, middle east.

It is too outright dangerous.

(01-24-2012, 10:07 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]I think Carla is a bit confused here.

Carla?

(01-24-2012, 04:36 PM)plenum Wrote: [ -> ]lol. I still don't know what a time lateral is. Parallel earth? Parallel dimension? how do things cross over??

I just started reading this thread, so I re-read it before taking a stab at what the TL is.

I'm thinking that this planet Earth, by "design," is/was due to flip into 4D by now, or real soon (say 12/21/12). Higher-ups took pity at the messy polyglot of humans living on the planet, so they created a "standby Earth," the Time Lateral, that would be kind of static, holding off the flip, or at least delaying the changes leading up to it. They keep sending in more Wanderers in hopes of getting a high percentage of 3Ders off their butt and make their Choice. After making a Choice, I presume the 3Ders would hop back onto the main track Earth to finish their 3D lives until Harvest.

Perhaps they were optimistic, and many of those/us Wanderers are getting caught up in the crazy culture and regradng, instead of upgrading the natives.

Anyway, things are not going as nicely as expected (typical of this sphere, right?), and the Orion STSers are looking to have a decent-sized (to them) population of clueless that they can hold back on the lateral after it moves away from the now-flipped main track bed Earth. Those people (and their offspring, I presume) will remain on their own version of Earth and live amongst themselves believing that they are winning the battle against those unholy commies who tolerate gay, atheist, pro-choice etc. lifestyles.

Those hard-headed and basically 2D Clueless have, in a way, made a kind of Choice that is neither STO nor STS. They would firmly choose to continue living the craziness that was only supposed to be temporary catalysis to force 3Ders to Choose one of the two Paths. RollEyes

apeiron

Even if they are successful, the best results seem to be a temporary situation for the orange biased population. And the planet per se could just be 'locked' in 2D (not the main track earth, this earth would be 4D while the lateral locked in 2D).

Again it is just possibility. So pay attention to Occupy Wall Street movements and such since those are more important than seem to be. The opposite/repression of those movements would be the pull of the 'orange situation'.

Also pay attention to the efforts of governments/elites to utilize means such as 'SOPA', for who is really behind those efforts? And what is the real purpose?
And, of course, pay attention to the surprising pop-ups of positivity going on, like from Jim Carrey.

apeiron

That's important too.

However, if the Occupy movements are nurtured and are more successful, I don't think there is a chance for any time lateral to continue since these movements are going from yellow to green and when fully established (like they were for a while in Europe, at least, with daycare centers, libraries, food, etc) almost full 4D/green ray environments in their enclosed spaces.

'Indignados' in Europe, Occupy Wall Street in USA, both are the same movements.

apeiron

But you are absolutely right kycahi. We need to focus in the positive thoughts instead of fear. That is what I was trying to convey but being aware how we can be manipulated and spring form there rejecting the fear based outcomes. In this way, Occupy, etc, are love based and anti-fear movements.


By the way, I am just watching this now. Minute 37 goes into more detail.

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/01...ers-video/

Is about time lines as well.
Carla's radio show from Jan. 27 delves into the topic of the time lateral, as well as 2012 and the Harvest.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/llresearch/...turn-to-qa

Meerie

http://montalk.net/gnosis/220/9-the-end
if you scroll down to "reality as remedial illusion", they mention the time lateral concept
Thank you Monica. That was a good show.

Hi people of the forum

I open a topic on something that is important for me to know at this time. I can only be thankful to you for reading this, and perhaps answering something.

I have been reading the transcripts and found a paragraph which I am not sure I understand very well.. It is about time lateral and is related to the harvest. What I am not sure I understand is that there might be an end date for people to make the choice of polarity.. I cannot understand how could that be if this is indeed so, and if you can help me understand I'd be willing to read your comments. Also, I find that this information can discourage those whose primary concern is to do all they can do that has the potential to increase the harvest.. If there really is an end date for making a choice, and if it is in the months to come, that leaves very little time for making projects that have that potential to increase the harvest.. Certainly much can still be done until then, perhaps it is mostly in being rather than doing, like with a beingness of universal lovingness and selflessness, an attitude of acceptance and understanding and love and non-judgement etc, the setting of a pure loving example - if one has done a considerable work on the self -, but that work on the self and self-realization is taking many years.. I am sorry, I know not what else to add, I am simply recognising in myself a sensation of discouragement at this time because of this information, as the harvest is the reason of my being here in this world, like for many of us, and if the harvest is a very important thing at this time and there is indeed an end date for people to choose a polarity, what can we do now during the many years left on Earth for the many that could be making a choice if there was more time? Continue to be & do those things that have the potential to increase the harvest, because if they cannot increase the harvest by spiritualy serving some people, those things might still have the potential to increase the polarization of some of those who have already made the service-to-others choice? I guess my question is what is the most important thing we can do at this time for the people of Earth and Earth? If the harvest can no longer be increased, what is essential? Of course we can continue to work on ourselves in order to become more and more our true selves, more balanced, and more and more open our hearts, to more and more purely radiate light and love, and more and more selflessly and genuinly serve in any way we can, and more deeply follow our true passion - our mission -, with the full sense of purpose.. All of this can make us feel better, it can make those around us feel better, it can make the Earth feel better, it can make us polarize, and it can even serve others, as it is often the case, it appears to me, that when there is a pure desire to be of service, many opportunities to be of service keep presenting to yourself..
I will paste an extract about this time lateral matter related to the harvest so you can read if you will, and perhaps write what you think about it, how you understand this. And because this is on the subject of harvest, you can also write, if you wish, those things that you think one can do that have the potential to increase the harvest, with complete respect of the free will of others, with love, understanding of what service is, wisdom, self-knowledge; What do you think we can do people of the forum? What suggestions do you have for me or others who might read the replies of this topic?
Again I thank you.

And so, here is the extract taken from a session that occured on December the 19th, 2005

"Let us be specific concerning the nature of this time lateral. It is not a time lateral that concerns the planet as a whole. The planet as a whole is unimpeded in its entry into fourth density. The energies of a living third-density system have been encouraged to continue for the approximate ten to twelve years further that this shunt can stay physically open in terms of space/time. This is to say that, by the energies of unconditional love which are generated by the prayers, meditations and visualizations of groups such as this one, the bridge or reconnection point has been maintained for those who would wish to awaken and make their choice of polarity by the date which has been set as the last possible date to keep this connection point open, which, as we have said before and still find to be true, is the date of the winter solstice of the year 2012.

This cannot be said to be precise. It is not known to us just when the last entity will be able to cross that bridge. The choice of many entities is involved in maintaining such a bridge. And indeed the traffic across the bridge of those who awaken and make their choice also has its part in keeping the bridge open until the last possible moment. The more traffic upon that bridge and the more guardians who stand watch along the bridge, holding and anchoring the incoming light of fourth density on the one hand, and acknowledging, honoring and blessing the waning light of third density on the other hand, the fuller the harvest may be. This is the entire core of the exercise of creating this time lateral."
The "Time Lateral" never made sense to me, and I'm not going to explore Carla's psyche to figure it out.
Perhaps it means that on that date(whenever that is) we will no longer be so sheltered? Not as able to make a choice with such Oblivious ease as we do now. Maybe it is really chaotic out there? And when this date comes we will enter into it. That was a thought that came to me just now.

-Conifer17- Adonai Vasu Borragus

Meerie

Me-Too, there is a thread about the time lateral here :

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3995
Hello Me_Too,

I haven't found the notion of the "time lateral" particularly helpful on my own journey.

Whether a time lateral exists or not doesn't seem to change or affect the basic requirements of self-knowing and self-accepting, of practicing the presence of the one Creator, of seeking to serve others, and of opening the heart to unconditional love.

My feeling is that it is an idea that can be discarded without detriment to the seeker's path. *Plenty* to be concerned about here on Earth without attempting to tackle the bizarre, alleged metaphysical happenings outside of our conscious awareness that seem to have little to no impact on the choices we make here and now.

Which isn't to imply that it's not a subject worth exploring if you feel called to do so - perhaps it has meaning for you and application to your own path. Smile
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