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Quotes from a search of Lawofone.info, keyword: Truth.

Quote:We have watched your group. We have been called to your group, for you have a need for the diversity of experiences in channeling which go with a more intensive, or as you might call it, advanced approach to the system of studying the patterns of the illusions of your body, your mind, and your spirit, which you call seeking the truth. We hope to offer you a somewhat different slant upon the information which is always and ever the same.

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In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

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To go through the various crystals to be used would be exhaustive to this instrument, although you may ask us if you wish in another session. The delicacy, shall we say, of the choosing of the crystal is very critical and, in truth, a crystalline structure such as a diamond or ruby can be used by a purified channel who is filled with the love/light of One, in almost any application.

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Questioner: What is the general overall effect of television on our society with respect to this catalyst?

Ra: I am Ra. Without ignoring the green ray attempts of many to communicate via this medium such information of truth and beauty as may be helpful, we must suggest that the sum effect of this gadget is that of distraction and sleep.

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The incorrectness lies in the truth that, given appropriate circumstances, a much longer incarnation in your space/time continuum is very helpful for continuing this intensive work until conclusions have been reached through the catalytic process.

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(In reference to General Patton)
This entity polarized somewhat towards the positive in its incarnation due to its singleness of belief in truth and beauty.

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Perhaps the simplest example of this apparent simultaneity of existence of two selves, which are in truth one self at the same time/space, is this: the Oversoul, as you call it, or Higher Self, seems to exist simultaneously with the mind/body/spirit complex which it aids. This is not actually simultaneous, for the Higher Self is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex as needed from a position in development of the entity which would be considered in the future of this entity.

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However, the inner voice alerted the one known as Morris to go by itself to another place and there an entity with the thought-form shape and appearance of the other contact appeared and gazed at this entity, thus awakening in it the desire to seek the truth of this occurrence and of the experiences of its incarnation in general.

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The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service-to-others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

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We ask that any photographs tell the truth, that they be dated, and shine with a clarity so that there is no shadow of any but genuine expression which may be offered to those which seek truth.

Quote:The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.

The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, and to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great. This is the nature of the power of your visitor and may shed some light upon the power of one who seeks in order to serve others as well, for the missteps in the night are oh! so easy.

Quote:We may note that there is an overriding spiritual environment and protection for the environment of the mind. We may further note that the negatively polarized adept will attempt to fashion that covenant for its own use whereas the positively polarized entity may hold forth that which is exemplified by the astrological sword; that is, light and truth.

So here we open up a very fun topic for many to discuss and find interest in, the word, and concept, that is identified as Truth. Naturally, since this is the forum of the Ra Material, we have chosen to begin with a basis of Ra's suggestions and then add growth to it through our own understandings. Ra has lovingly planted many seeds for us, but they must be watered, loved and the light of nature shone upon them for them to grow in to mighty oaks. We desire to assist all with the shedding of the light, thus we begin this discussion.

We would first here, like to list collectively all of those phrases expressed by Ra:

seeking the truth
In truth
information of truth and beauty
in the truth that
belief in truth
seek the truth of this occurrence
whether the truth
tell the truth
those which seek truth
discern truth from shadow
power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true

and our favorite: the astrological sword; that is, light and truth

Ah, now, we are going to begin from the bottom, as we are spirit within matter mounting upwards in ascension!

We would like to express here that even though it may seem like there are many interpretations of "truth", an interpretation CANNOT be mistaken for the truth itself.

We see here described an "astrological" sword. Light and truth, what a mysterious 'weapon'. We take astrological to here refer to Astral Nature, and thus Light and Truth are a tool for use with the astral energies, in one form. We have an understanding that the astral or emotional body is a motivating body. Thus, to desire Light and Truth, and thus to orientate your astral body towards such fields, is to give you a tool, as we see in the next working, to discern the light from shadow.

The sword is that which rends the veil, which we understand as an expression of the shadow. We understand that by Ra's explanation the veil is a third density phenomenon characterized by a veiling between the conscious and the unconscious mind. Many use the word separation for the veil, we would make this clear that separation does not mean lacking in relationship or connection. It means there is a distinction of individual units, or of individuated portions. Most literally, a division of a space by a veil does not change the fact that the "two" spaces are still absolutely connected and side-by-side.

We would also note the fact that there is clearly a distinction made in that there is expressed there is a "false" and a "true". This would indicate to use to express that in fact there is, just as we may make all One, realize there is a One Truth. We take this not in the manner of preaching, or to express any exaltation of any particular religion or spiritual path, but as a notation that just as there is One Thought, One Source, One Creator, which are a reference for that which is two, three, four, etc, there must also be a One Truth which is the general reference for all subsequent Truth.

We thus then also see that there are those who seek truth, and can also thus conclude that there are those that do not seek truth. We thus understand these to be those that utilize falsity as a source of power.

This clearly relates to the next one up, telling the truth. We may now begin to understand that the astrological sword is made in to its shape by the articulate focusing upon the truth. "Telling the truth", can be said to be a way to use "The Word". All words, all sounds, contain within them the inherit vibrations of relation to the truth, as a lie cannot be spoken in the same way a truth can. You cannot speak a lie (hereby defined as a falsity) and have it energetically be a truth. A lie is attuned to its dissonance with truth. One always knows when they are lying, it is impossible not to. We will also not mistake lying for being MISINFORMED.

We see here that there are many different shapes of this idea, The Truth. We see that it can be used in multiple ways. However, in all situations we see that the Truth is a reference to "that which lies behind the illusion". The next phrase "whether the truth" instead turns Truth in to an attribute, a property of IS-ness. This further deepens our understanding that the Truth is in fact a particular state of harmony between within and without, or may be defined in such a way.

In this sense, we would consider disharmony to be the dissonance between these two things. We understand The Creator may be found within, the Creation, without. We understand that each creates itself. Each Entity is responsible for the harmony between their within and without.

As we understand, All is Creator, All is One, and so we may perhaps thus conclude that The Creator, or Oneness, is the One Truth. We then may also understand then that that all other "truths", have a relativity of harmony with this underlying One Truth. This One Truth which encompasses all truths, even if all truths do not encompass the One Truth. Many have seen this sort of adage before.

Thus, we see our next phrase, "seek the Truth of this occurence", that many occurences have connected to them that which is not in harmony with its One Truth. We thus understand there then to be the nature of "interpretation", whereby one "seeks the Truth" of occurences. We thus also understand that there may be found a relativity within interpretation that is a function of harmony with the One Truth. We understand this to be a natural occurence of polarized awareness.

Of course, for one to harmonize with One Truth, it must also be realized that there is the possibility for one to believe or disbelieve in this truth, and that this belief will have an influence on one's degree of harmonization with this truth. One cannot seek truth, or be One with Truth, unless they have a belief in it, for how can you harmonize with what you do not believe exists? Thus, we also come again to the astrological sword, as with belief comes astral movement.

We thus also see that beauty, truth and light are all intertwined. We understand that the expression of Beauty and Truth are to be seen as positively oriented and thus harmonious with the One Truth.

One might attempt to discern what is "true" in beauty, or what is "beautiful" in truth. Yet we say that Truth is Beautiful and Beautiful is Truth. Thus, as we see the Creator as the One Truth, we also understand that the One Truth is also the Beauty of the Creator, that which lies within its Oneness. We then thus understand that to have interpretations of truth which are harmonious with excessive devourment, destruction, or disregard for Self as All, are not in fact harmonious with what could be considered the One Truth of Oneness.

We see that one can constantly be seeking the truth, and that one may do so by continuously working to be "in truth", or "in the truth". Thus, seeing the One Truth as the One Creator we understand that those who seek truth are those who spent time "in the truth", or in the awareness and consideration of the One Truth, which is that we are all One Creator, and we are all One.

We thus see and understand that that which disregards Others as Self, is not in resonance with the Truth of Oneness. This does not necessitate a spiritual awareness of Oneness, but rather an equality of energy exchange. This is often most exemplified by the Golden Rule.

We also feel it is important to realize that distortion is dissonance of the One Truth. Thus, the more one professes deeper oneness, which is integrative and loving, the less dissonance between inner and outer truth. As the Inner Truth is the One Truth, and we each have the choice whether or not we want to resonate with it and make it our Outer Truth.

Blessings, from Creator to Creator, we are your Eternal Guardian, shanti, adonai.

SPEAKING the truth

Okay, the post is good now.

Truth is an elusive prey.

If one can be led by another to believe that a thing is true, which they know in their heart not to be true, than that one shall always catch what they assume to be truth. This is self gratification with no regard for truth, but only for personal satisfaction.

When one can be prepared to dismiss that which they believe to be truth, for new information that offers them a reason to doubt that presumption, than that one shall never catch the prey, for they shall always be in search of it.

This however, in no way, suggests that there is no such thing as truth. Truth is the memory of events passed. and since those events have already taken place, they cannot be undone by lies.

Truth is gone, and what is gone cannot be captured.

Good post my friend Eternal.

This reminds me of how it's possible to have two ways of getting closer to the Truth.

Shrink your Self to infinity until you can glance at Oneness (Truth) or expand your Self to infinity until you can glance at Oneness (Truth). Note that both starts at Oneness 1/1.

Very excellent post Eternal!

Absolute truth is partially defined as something which cannot be doubted. Philosophies may be doubted, certain functions may be doubted, your physical body may be doubted too (modern day physics tells us that there isn't any actual solid matter), even the trueforms of all things may be doubted; we only perceive a limited spectrum of light. We do not see in infrared or ultraviolet. But what is the ONE THING which nobody can ever doubt?

Consciousness. No matter what, consciousness is always there. It is omnipresent. It is omniscient. It would not be possible for us to speculate upon existence or pursue the truth were we not conscious beings, embedded within consciousness. All that occurs, all that is, all are manifested from consciousness. We do not ever directly experience consciousness. We only experience the contents of consciousness, the thoughts, emotions, feelings, all sensory data which we analyze through our senses. How we interact with consciousness is limited to our perceptions, which are themselves limited, and it must be remembered that the world as we view it is only how the human brain sees and perceives the world, not how it TRULY is. Dolphins, they do not see physical form. But they are able to perceive every one of our internal processes, the beating of our hearts, the processes of our organs, as easily as we can see facial expressions change they can view these things. Two radically different experiences of the world, yet neither invalidates the other. Both are truth, or rather, different takes on the truth.

If truth did not exist, there would not be different approaches to it. If consciousness did not exist, there would be no perceptions of it. Our seeking of truth is limited because we do so unaware that we are restricted to where we may initiate our pursuits, within consciousness. The concept of an "absolute truth" would not even be had this concept, these words, not arisen from a conscious being who is a part of consciousness.

So we may thus conclude, that because it can never be doubted, and because it is ever present, and is self-evident, that consciousness (rather, the faculty of consciousness) is the absolute truth. Consciousness is essentially the essence One Infinite Creator. Thus the Creator is absolute truth.

One of my highest understandings is that we are the truth which we seek.

Our existence, our being, is that truth. Thus any effort to "seek", though seemingly necessary for a certain portion of the journey, is ultimately a denial/avoidance of the truth. Eventually, seeking ends in the recognition that we are already are, always have been, forever will be as we are: infinite. I am that I am.

This entity's take on it at least.

That's beautiful Gary. I've learned that what I was seeking before was never really anything that is outside myself. In my seeking, it only led to more confusion.

Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

(04-03-2012, 03:04 AM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

My answer. All.
For we are Alcyone.
We are all One.

(04-03-2012, 03:04 AM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

One of course.

(04-03-2012, 08:04 AM)Valtor Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2012, 03:04 AM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

One of course.

Yeh, the One Infinite Poster! Ha ha

(04-03-2012, 03:04 AM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

Not all fields are capable of mating. It is not possible to know the answer to that question.

Now if you had asked how many beings have 'expressed' their feelings.....?

And is that not the essence of how opinion becomes religion?

(04-03-2012, 08:18 AM)Ashim Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2012, 08:04 AM)Valtor Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2012, 03:04 AM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

One of course.

Yeh, the One Infinite Poster! Ha ha

LOL !

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But all fields are from the One Infinite Poster.

(04-03-2012, 09:30 AM)Valtor Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2012, 08:18 AM)Ashim Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2012, 08:04 AM)Valtor Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-03-2012, 03:04 AM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a riddle for you guys:

How many beings have shared their thoughts in this thread?

One of course.

Yeh, the One Infinite Poster! Ha ha

LOL !

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But all fields are from the One Infinite Poster.

Yes, but fields evolve according to their individual experiences, and many are unable to mate because they are too far apart in their evolutions. There is always a certain degree of mating between all fields but there is also certain information that cannot be processed by younger, more immature fields.

Just as I am not going to be able to walk into a meeting of quantum physicists and be able to understand a word they are saying to each other.

Shin'Ar, while what you say is true, you must remember that these various fields you are referring to are all manifestations of one being, both puppet and puppet master. Regardless of whether a field of consciousness interacts with or doesn't interact with other fields of consciousness, it does not change the fact that these fields of consciousness are the same. Yes, perhaps expressing may have been a better choice of a word, but the main point is that there is only One who is typing out all these different posts here, You know that as well as I do.

Absolutely Godwide.

Expressing is a better word.

You said we are all manifestations of One being.

What if express it in this manner:

We are all manifestations of One Being being.

It is very difficult to put into words. Many have tried to do this for eons and there is always confusion left in the wake.

The best way that I can do this is to continue to point out the difference between the process and the Source of the process.

We have realized the temporary aspect of the flesh and what we have thought to be our identity within this flesh. We have come to realize that our true identity is One with the All. We have become aware of the Divine within us. We realize our true aspect as the One God.

Now let us further attempt to discern that realization. Does this mean that you were the One that was there in that first second of creation? Does this mean that you are the one who created this universe? Does this mean that you can do the same right here and now?

What does it mean when we say that we are One with God; One with the All. And what does it mean when I say that you are the Goddess?

Now, having asked yourself these vital questions, think again in dynamics of process.

remember the Tarot thread?

Creator=Consciousness=Creation

This is the Divine Process. Consciousness is Being. The process of being. Consciousness is NOT the Source, not the Creator, it is the manifestation of the Creator. It is the Thought/Frequency?Process of that Source.

The human, is one wave form of that process, as is the stone, the ocean, the sky, the planet, the moon and the sun, etc. etc.

We are One, we are All. Not because we are the actual Source but because we are It's very Breath, Thought and Sound proceeding forth and becoming the manifestation of the Creator.

The Human "being" the Creator. Just like the Earth is "being" the Creator. And the Stars, and the galaxy.

We are the Divine Process of the Source thinking and Being. We are "The Process."

And so if one can understand this they can see that within that process, levels and degrees of experience are related to levels and degrees of memory and stored information.

One cannot swim in a puddle, but as that puddle continues to fill with water, one will be able to one day submerge themselves into all of its fullness.

So when I speak of fields of consciousness, what are we really speaking of? Memory and Experience, stored as information and shared from one field to another. Some fields have been around longer and contain far more than younger ones. And just as you cannot put a bigger box into a smaller box, a smaller younger field cannot absorb and contain all that a larger field has.

(DO NOT SAY IT MONKEY)

This is the Divine Process of evolution. The One Consciousness is the Source of the All. The All proceeds from that Source and evolves. These continuing thoughts evolve and expand, gathering, creating, sharing and experiencing. They do so at varying stages of evolution and are all at various stages of age and experience.

The One Consciousness is the largest and the First. Those that first proceeded from it in the beginning continued to expand like ripples on the great sea of the Cosmos. These are the most ancient and they all interact and share according to their ability to contain.

As we go down that chain of connecting and expanding fields all are connected, and all share according to their various levels and stages of containment and experience.

From the top those can share with the youngest and smallest. But from the bottom up, those are restricted to their ability to contain, comprehend and express.

Therefore we have the field of consciousness that has become the stone. It has vibration and is a manifestation of the Source, but it cannot comprehend any of this. It will evolve. Than we have the field of consciousness of an animal which has a higher consciousness than the stone or the plant but still cannot share certain degrees of information and memory with the One Consciousness in comparison to what the human is able.

And so it is within the human there are also various degrees and levels of fields of consciousness, some more evolved and more able to store, contain and comprehend the information and memory of larger, more higher evolved fields of the All.

Rupert Sheldrake portrayed it very eloquently in this manner:

The individual bird, one small field of consciousness, flies alone and is capable of certain skills. Place that bird into a large flock of thousands, all sharing and experiencing the mating of their many fields of consciousness and they become a much larger field capable of acting as one entity and sharing instantaneous thought.

On my website you will a video of this on the Morphogenesis page. A huge flock of starlings flying in virtual oneness actually become one entity in their sharing. And as they fly through the sky migrating from one place to another they even fly into larger fields of memory stored in the very sky itself which shares information with them and guides them on their way.

This is the Process of Being. It evolves, and we, as fields of consciousness, are evolving within it. All are bound together in the way that it All proceeds from the very breath of God.

We are not the Source, but Its Breath and Thought.

You have very, very eloquently and accurately outlined the divine process, and pointed out one of the most critical distinctions there is to make: the Source and the All are not referring to the exact same thing.

Quote:We have realized the temporary aspect of the flesh and what we have thought to be our identity within this flesh. We have come to realize that our true identity is One with the All. We have become aware of the Divine within us. We realize our true aspect as the One God.

Now let us further attempt to discern that realization. Does this mean that you were the One that was there in that first second of creation? Does this mean that you are the one who created this universe? Does this mean that you can do the same right here and now?

What does it mean when we say that we are One with God; One with the All. And what does it mean when I say that you are the Goddess?

No, no, and no. We are extensions of its being, its Breath and Thought as you termed. It inhabits us completely, but we are only representations of It. We are not the original form, the god-wide being in which every Universe arises. But It is still us, completely, regardless of the various forms we appear as. As for the last question, I will have to message you my answer.

(04-06-2012, 01:04 PM)godwide_void Wrote: [ -> ]You have very, very eloquently and accurately outlined the divine process, and pointed out one of the most critical distinctions there is to make: the Source and the All are not referring to the exact same thing.

Quote:We have realized the temporary aspect of the flesh and what we have thought to be our identity within this flesh. We have come to realize that our true identity is One with the All. We have become aware of the Divine within us. We realize our true aspect as the One God.

Now let us further attempt to discern that realization. Does this mean that you were the One that was there in that first second of creation? Does this mean that you are the one who created this universe? Does this mean that you can do the same right here and now?

What does it mean when we say that we are One with God; One with the All. And what does it mean when I say that you are the Goddess?

No, no, and no. We are extensions of its being, its Breath and Thought as you termed. It inhabits us completely, but we are only representations of It. We are not the original form, the god-wide being in which every Universe arises. But It is still us, completely, regardless of the various forms we appear as. As for the last question, I will have to message you my answer.

Yes, it is clear that you understand, but there are many that remain in confusion. It sounds so simple, and yet it is so complex.