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I am getting very sick of working 40 hours a week with nothing to show for it. It seems like for my whole life I have been fighting this uphill battle with my bills, with me always making just too little to pay them off, and then whenever I get close to breaking even some expense or series of expenses pop up.

I've had a particularly rough week regarding finances and I feel like it has undone much of progress I'd made over the summer at balancing my inner state. Does anyone have any tips for living harmoniously within the capitalist system?

I feel like I've had a lot of catalyst in this life teaching me the sillyness of materialism, it seems anytime I get attached to an object or try to start collecting something it gets taken away from me, and I'm fine with that. I've known since I was very young that I do not need money or possessions to be happy, but now it's getting to be more of a survival issue as I can't afford food reliably, can't afford my partner's medication, haven't payed rent in months and am in danger of being evicted, etc, etc. It's also becoming an issue for our relationship since my partner cannot seem to find a job here in Quebec since she doesn't speak French and she feels she is dragging me down.

I sure hope that our financial system gets changed soon :-/.

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Our financial system is changing, but I hope you give the word "soon" the same meaning that most channels seems to give. That is to say within the next 100 years or so.

For without a change in spiritual awareness. An RBE is not likely to work.

see: http://socialrebirth.org/resource-alloca...nomy-model

Quote:Imagine we live in a “Resource Based Economy”, where there is no money and everyone gets the essentials of survival without having to submit to a life of seritude to get it, etc etc. We have abundance of many things, because we are more efficient and innovative with our resources. However, it will not take long for the following situation to arise; a limited quantity of a specific resource will force us into having to make a decision on the allocation of these resources.
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As a different example, let’s say that there is some land with a beautiful view, on which one group wants to build a research lab, and another group wants to use for housing. Let’s assume for the purpose of this example that both would “cost” the same quantity of resources to build. The difference is the effect they have on the society. You suddenly have an argument between people who want this view from their homes, and people who want it for their workplace.

I don't think this worldwide problem is going to wait 100 years in ANY case. The basic situation is the cost of living has skyrocketed in the past 5 - 10 years and wages have stayed exactly the same.

If you DO believe the shift into 4D is coming this year (as many, many channels say this, including [arguably]the Ra Material/Q'uo channelings), this will most definitely NOT be a problem any longer.

If you do NOT believe there is a shift in to 4D coming DURING your incarnation (or you just aren't sure), then I can't imagine this situation not resolving itself in the next 5 years, probably much less than that. Things will get hard enough that people will start turning on the authorities and demanding things be better. The "machine" will break down and things will HAVE to change in some direction.

AFTER the machine breaks down, then maybe people will finally want to implement a NEW system instead of just plain old capitalism, such as the resource-based economy Patrick posted about.

So either way, the times are 'uh changin.

Thanks for the posts Patrick and Parsons! Yes I do believe a switch to resource based economy (or maybe gift based if the population is reduced drastically for whatever reason) would be a great move for our society. . . it's something I think about a lot but most people tell me I'm being to idealistic when I discuss it with them.

(08-09-2012, 06:13 PM)Parsons Wrote: [ -> ][. . .] Things will get hard enough that people will start turning on the authorities and demanding things be better. The "machine" will break down and things will HAVE to change in some direction.[. . .]

I do believe things are already starting to move in that direction if you look at things like the Arab Spring, the Occupy movement, student strikes in Quebec and Mexico . . . and so on.

I guess I am just getting impatient . . . Thanks for the perspective check, I feel a little better now.

All I can say is I know how you feel. Money catalyst is like a big ugly smear in my joy bubble. Dealing with it just stresses me out sooooo much!

I feel for you spaced. Something that's helped me is intention. Check out http://www.intenders.com/. If you like what you see, I can email you The Intenders Handbook. It's helped me become more mindful of my/our creations. Our thoughts, words and deeds are powerful.

There is a better way. I believe it's in our nature to know what that way is, without having to over think it in terms of the system we have now.

I think:

The question is, will we gradually walk to the utopia- living the way we do, enduring, while adding bits of energy towards the subject of change- or will we straight-on face the unknown together and finally tell each other, "this is the way"?

I would rather be part of such change than take part of the harvest. Correct me if I'm wrong...but I think that was what the 4d beings were thinking when they came back to Earth, some who even came here for the first time... others who have come in from later stages. Imagine that, "if you will", they came back for this.

(08-09-2012, 01:54 PM)Spaced Wrote: [ -> ]I've had a particularly rough week regarding finances and I feel like it has undone much of progress I'd made over the summer at balancing my inner state. Does anyone have any tips for living harmoniously within the capitalist system?

I may only offer you my own personal experience on this, no more, no less. It is entirely up to you to determine whether any of the following is personally useful to you.

Firstly, I'd like to mention I have been quite immersed in "materialism," as it is called (or more accurately, "superficialism," I'd say) for the sheer purpose of experience the rich pompousness of adorning myself in gold and glitter, so to speak. However, I always used it as a MEANS to an end, not as the end itself. So I have always used "materialism" to my favor.

But I've been through extreme hardships (which is not to be taken lightly), specially whilst I was still walking this world in company of my biological family. I have experienced economical abundance as well as economical decline and total collapse. I kid you not when I say we've been through periods of severe monetary scarcity (in a family of seven children), living day by day on bread, noodles, rice and water for several months (actually years).

I know what it is to lose possessions, cars, and even houses (being literally kicked out of a house by police forces and thrown out in the streets with nowhere to go). The funny thing is that I also know what it is to live in almost luxury, in financial security, with every technological commodity available, and be treated like royalty.

I'm not saying you should become a vagabond or a social hermit, but I learned this (I may have an advantage on this since I am naturally "rigged" this way and I've been changing location of residence practically since I was a child):

1. Accept this principle: change is the only constant.
Adopt formlessness and you will have little to no difficulty adjusting to changing situations/circumstances. The path of least resistance is the path of greatest allowance. Flow with the flow.

2. Learn to detach, learn to let go.
Attachments and entanglements, of any kind whatsoever, will directly or indirectly create a relationship of emotional dependency which will in one way or another affect you adversely (i.e. you will have trouble letting go, resisting change, or "losing" that object or that person, and this will invariably cause you a certain degree of emotional pain). To put it bluntly: learn to be free from everything and everyone; be prepared and willing to abandon everything at any moment and joyfully embark on a new journey. Adopting this "carefree" attitude will serve you well.
This also applies to cleaning up the slates and starting all over again from scratch, so to speak.
Knowing that the phoenix can be reborn from its own ashes, what is there to be lost, really?

3. You choose your own baggage, so don't complain if the trip is heavy.
The least amount of objects, gadgets, artifacts, toys and miscellaneous assorted paraphernalia you possess, the best. From personal experience, most people accumulate hoards of junk that serves no other purpose than to occupy space and collect dust. A touch of decor is just fine. But do not try to "stuff up" the "emptiness" or "clog" the VOID!
In minimalism lies abundance.
I also suggest running a quick scan over all the stuff you posses, and throw away most of it. The ritual of externally "mopping" or "cleaning up," will help you clear up and (re)organize yourself internally into a much more harmonious configuration.

4. Live in the present.
Realize it's always NOW. Love the moment and enjoy it. See the beauty and the love in every moment. It's OK if you wish to have mid- or long-term goals/projects, but act/behave/live as if that "future" is already manifested NOW. Do not overly worry about what is to come. Focus on the HERE & NOW.
Also, free yourself from past memories. If anything is "haunting" you, the key is acceptance and forgiveness. Do not reject whatever was. Embrace it, acknowledge it in full light, accept it, integrate, be healed and move along.

5. Do not survive, THRIVE. Trust the Creator.
It's not a matter of survival, but a matter of abundance, living and enjoying what is. When you truly realize you are the Creator, you have all you need at any given time, and any place can be home. Do not think, "oh, but the Creator shall perhaps give me that which I do not like!" or "the Creator shall forget or take too long or give me less than I desire." Instead, know the Creator shall provide you with exactly what you need for your/Its experience at exactly the right time. The more you align yourself with the Creator, the more your will and Its will become One.
How's your faith these days, brother?

6. All there are are experiences to be experienced, lessons to be learned.
Realize you learn something from every experience you go through. Sometimes an experience will keep repeating itself under various different guises and circumstances until you actually LEARN it. Knowing this is will prove very useful, for when you have an "unsavory" experience, shall we say, you could immediately ask yourself, "what is there to be learned from this?"
If you go through your tests and challenges and tribulations with a merry heart, you shall see an IMMENSE difference on the results.
It's a matter of attitude. How do you CHOOSE to take it? Experiences are not emotionally charged in and of themselves, YOU give them the emotional charge. In other words, how you react to the presented catalyst is entirely of your own choosing.
And lest we forget, I would also suggest being grateful to the Creator for allowing your/Itself to experience this experience.
Every experience is a gift. 

7. Most importantly of all, perhaps, is to trust and follow your own INTUITION.
Learn to listen to it and call upon it when needed. Make it your primary source of guidance. Intuition is your best counselor and advisor; not to mention your direct line to your "higher/inner self." If you truly learn to rely upon this inner resource of yours and work in tandem with your "higher/inner self," you really have little to worry.

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Hopefully this will serve you in some way. This constitutes, in great part, my life philosophy here in 3rd density. Thus it is that I live in abundance (spiritually-speaking). I currently live in a small, cozy apartment (in the heart of Buenos Aires, Argentina). I live just 1 block away from my job. And my job is more than satisfactory. I don't keep track of time. And I don't even check my bank account. [I literally do NOT know how much money I have in my savings. This is an experiment I begun early this year, and so far, it's been amazing!] I live a minimalistic life. The only technological outlet I have is this laptop (oh, and a sound system). I am grateful. I have no complaints. So you see, everything falls in place accordingly. You create, and hence experience, what you vibrate. My THOUGHTS vibrate in this and that way, and reality around me arranges so and so to accurately reflect my state of being.

It is also true, however, that I barely have any need for (frivolous) socialization in the department of "human relations," and that I am naturally a hermit and enjoy my solitude and silence. I would also mention that I spend at least 90% of the day in a semi-trance/meditative state (including when I'm at work).

And, well, I am just overall wonder-FULL.

Siren's post above mine is spot on as far as I can tell, very good way to relay the same advice we've seen over and over

Siren that was an amazing tao you just proclaimed. I agree fully and I related especially to the after statement about the cozy apartment, job down the block laptop and sound system... for I am now entering the EXACT same living situation in a downtown setting. I just imagined you coming down from the mount with two stone tablets and for some reason your hair is on fire. Possibly you're riding a white mare... but regardless, message received!

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And when it comes to economical reform, I've seen great strides with various self-sustaining communes here in America, and it leads me to suppose that reforms of such nature come about from small individual splashes that ripple outwards... for example if you can get everyone in a single household to agree on a system, and it works, then you have the potential to expand to the neighbors. Once you have 3 houses on the block sharing resources and services then you have the potential to get a whole neighborhood on board. A neighborhood has a big voice, at least in a district. A district has a huge voice in a city... and so on.

One of the biggest obstacles I've witness is the inability for a lot of inner city neighborhoods to COMMUNICATE amongst themselves. What ever happened to people going outside and talking to each other? We seemingly do it all the times about huge issues in which we have little control over (i.e. politics, technology and religion) but how much time do we spend discussing amongst neighbors about general upkeep and security, gardening, sidewalk repair and transportation?

This may just be a reflection of some of my own experienced circumstances, and yes I'm highly blameable... but according to my observations it seems to me that the kind of change in which we seek begins locally.

(08-10-2012, 02:04 PM)Siren Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully this will serve you in some way. This constitutes, in great part, my life philosophy here in 3rd density. Thus it is that I live in abundance (spiritually-speaking). I currently live in a small, cozy apartment (in the heart of Buenos Aires, Argentina). I live just 1 block away from my job. And my job is more than satisfactory. I don't keep track of time. And I don't even check my bank account. [I literally do NOT know how much money I have in my savings. This is an experiment I begun early this year, and so far, it's been amazing!] I live a minimalistic life. The only technological outlet I have is this laptop (oh, and a sound system). I am grateful. I have no complaints. So you see, everything falls in place accordingly. You create, and hence experience, what you vibrate. My THOUGHTS vibrate in this and that way, and reality around me arranges so and so to accurately reflect my state of being.

It is also true, however, that I barely have any need for (frivolous) socialization in the department of "human relations," and that I am naturally a hermit and enjoy my solitude and silence. I would also mention that I spend at least 90% of the day in a semi-trance/meditative state (including when I'm at work).

that is a beautiful post Siren. So much lived wisdom there.

namaste

Dear fellow traveler Spaced,

I would like to add a few things to the discussion. As always, take to heart only what resonates with your soul. I appreciate that money is a really sticky issue and a lot of emotions are bound up with it. Shame and a sense of vulnerability are common. I would advise you to remember what I remember reading in one of Carla's channelings: third density is the density of confusion and ignorance and pain. It's not your fault if you feel like that. So rest easy if you blame yourself for these feelings making you suffer.

I also feel like a lot of people who are into the spiritual journey put way too much stock in free will. I don't think it technically exists, personally. One has no choice about BEING, right? No one asked you if you wanted existence to exist, or if you wanted it to contain suffering and incarnational challenges. I think our bodies and minds only go through the motions of making choices and that adherence to the belief "I am the doer, I am the chooser" on top of that is the cause of tons of suffering and angst. Only in the wake of letting go of the idea that I'm in charge of *anything* have I felt like my actions were truly taken care of by the divine hand. When this illusion began falling away from me I started to get in the flow. It wasn't a matter of doing anything right. And, as a corollary, not being in the flow isn't a matter of doing anything *wrong.* Rest easy on this count, if you please.

I mean, Jesus was MFing JESUS, and he felt abandoned and forsaken in his last moments. It's okay to feel lost now.

As for practical advice, I would consider the example of Bob Kiyosaki's life as the success story of someone who made it through your situation. He's a famous and rich businessman who has authored a whole series of books on personal finance. If my memory serves me right, he tried to start a business, failed horribly, and ended up living out of a car for a while with his wife stewing in self-blame. Even while his business seemed to be doing good, he encountered similar obstacles to your own, but on a business-wide scale - relentless strings of unfortunate events, inability to meet loan payments, and the like. He then took another more successful businessman's advice on how to get out of the slump, which was (to my surprise, as I read the book) to *act* rich and *feel* rich and *risk* money on some of the trappings of a rich man that seem just superfluous, like a nice watch. This is exactly what Rhonda Byrne (the author of "The Secret") said to do in her more evolved, heartfelt, and compassionate book (according to my friend, who has read it and told me about it) "The Secret: The Power." She might be a useful source.

I think a useful activity, therefore, would be to follow Kiyosaki's path. Buy a little something nice, something that feels a little *too* nice perhaps, that you want. He and Byrne advise people to *feel* rich as they do this, like it's nothing to acquire such things. My personal advice would be to work up to it. Do something silly that makes you feel like a king. Make a ridiculous bling necklace out of Cheerios and macaroni wheels and dance with your wife in the candlelight. Adorn each other with these opulent jewels! How could you not feel abundance when you're having so much fun? Be a kid again and feel the way you felt back when a cardboard box was a spaceship.

In choosing to buy something nice, I would recommend a night out at a restaurant you can afford, after which you leave too big a tip for a man with financial worries. There is nobility in having riches if you share them. Feel the power of those few dollars as you disperse them into the global financial grid. You're paying a restaurant, which pays its workers, which pay other workers. Because of your dollars, the shippers who move the raw produce to that restaurant have money. Your dollars pay the farmers. Your dollars even pay the "a**hole speculators" who "pirate" the markets - the relatively small-time speculators who are being crowded out by high-speed algorithms owned by the monster squid financial institutions, but who still exist, and who get paid because speculation by honest traders (who are trying to get RICH) encourages stable crop and material prices and keeps bubbles from forming in the markets and putting people out of work.

You might benefit from looking up Ed Seykota on Google. He is a wise, rich man (VERY rich), who made his living by following spiritual principles, even if he does not call them as such. He was always honest, he appreciated the value of money in terms of how much effort goes into coming by it and how it benefits himself and others to be rich, and he knew how to pull off textbook manifestation. He created this group called the Trading Tribe where he teaches people who want to win in the markets to completely eradicate GREED and FEAR. Seriously, you have to be either a cheater or a Zen master to win in the markets. He's a Zen master. What could be more spiritual than eradicating greed and fear? The guy is a bodhisattva.

It just seems that you feel like the whole system is broken and nobody good is playing in it. There are still wise and good people in finance and business and they feel the same way you do about the system. They know our economy isn't perfect but they do what they can with what's there and use their profits to (actually) provide employment, affordable apartments, and valuable goods and services. I sense a serious disillusionment in your writing and possibly a fear that if you had money, it would taint you with greed, or maybe that it's inherently un-spiritual. This is understandable, especially if you're a wanderer. It's true, money is a third-density relic we will leave behind. But so are our bodies, and we use our bodies to hug and kiss and make love and bring children into the world who will carry forth the spiritual light. Money is like air; we breathe it in and breathe it out. It gets recycled; there is a water cycle and a money cycle to match it.

If I were going to attempt wealth magic in your position, I might do one or more of the following things:

1. Do the necklace and dance thing. I think I'd have great fun doing it if I were in your position. I think your wife will love it too. Get yo' swag on.

2. Pay for a meal whose price tag makes you anxious, and tip 33%. Feel like a boss when you think of all the stimulus money you're dumping into the economy. Consider also buying a pizza and handing it off to some homeless people. Little Caesar's sells them for $5 American. Do you have those up there? Or maybe consider buying them a bag of apples. Very poor people rarely get *real* food, and they can pocket apples for later if they aren't hungry.

3. Play a game of Monopoly with your wife. But try not to beat her, and instead work with her to provide the best housing. Play like you both run a real estate firm and are trying to give people houses. Get toy soldiers or Lego people and put them by the houses and hotels you build so you can see that real people live there. You get to put houses on Baltic and Mediterranean for the people who can afford those houses, and hotels on Boardwalk and Park Street for the people who can afford those. You take their money thankfully and without cynicism for their desire to experience that opulence, and you build more houses for more Lego people. You stimulate the economy. Pat yourself on the back when you max out the real estate on every square. Mortgage your property if your wife runs out of money and give her a loan. Take a loan from her. Learn to barter and charge fair interest rates on side-table loans, maybe. Feel like you're in business.

BEFORE YOU READ THE NEXT PARAGRAPH, READ MY POST WHERE I CRITICIZE MY OWN ADVICE.

4. Befriend a wealth spirit. I *really* want to remind you to take *only* what resonates with you as advice here, because I'm about to venture into *religious* ground. I'm Buddhist by learning, and I love their deities (the Tibetan traditions are full of actual worship and propitiation and valuable spirit friendships, unlike Zen and the older schools of Buddhism). Ratnasambhava is the name of their Earth buddha. I like him a lot. He has a mantra that works like a phone number: OM RATNASAMBHAVA TRAH. If you feel anxious about money, dial his number by saying it once or twice in your head or aloud. Feel the vibration of the thought or sound enter your energy and mix with your body and aura and environment, allow your crown chakra to open to him, and trust. I have three years of experience working with these mantras on top of a lot more years of energy work that made me sensitive to that aspect of my body. Mantras work. And desperation is powerful magic. I think it's the only thing that can really spark most people into a spiritual friendship with a spirit or deity. You might get a positive greeting, especially if you use the mantra to express hope that all beings have great riches and material power. These spirits, I can assure you, are real thoughtforms out there in the ether, and they like you and want to help you. This comes from personal experience that only gets more and more real for me by the day. Again - only try this if you really resonate with the idea.

IF YOU READ THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH, BE SURE TO CHECK MY LATER POST WHERE I CRITICIZE MYSELF.

5. Spend a day imagining yourself in a bada$$ business suit with rings on your fingers and a solid gold watch. Stuff your wallet with paper rectangles to make it fat and feel it in your back pocket when you sit down. Just do whatever it takes to feel like you've made it.

6. Literally wipe your bottom with a dollar bill and flush it. Have a laugh. Show the world you can roll this way.

7. Have you ever thought about what you'd do if you won the lottery? I would suggest imagining you have, say, $400 million. You *have* to spend 1/4 of it on yourself.

8. Do a little research. Do you know what a stock is? A bond? An option? A future? Do you know why bonds' interest rates go up when fewer people want them? What might make fewer people want a bond that used to be popular? What might make them want a bond that isn't popular at all? Can unpopular bonds have great hidden value? Do you know about the Dutch Tulip Mania? What was that? What's a credit default swap? Did you know that my friend made 20% returns after a very short time by loaning a little money to a local organic farm? I'm not saying to buy these bonds or stocks, or make a loan, or that this reading HAS to resonate with you, but it may crack your blocked chakras open a bit to just dip a toe into the pool and open your mind to the idea that money is interesting and amazing.

9. I would HIGHLY recommend writing down all your thoughts about money. Just spew into a journal about money and be HONEST and see what comes out. See what's true. Get the thoughts in writing so you can isolate the emotions attached to them and study them from all angles. My big question that I would ask you would be, is money evil? Do you need to steal to make money? Can money damage your soul? Is Ed Seykota right? Is it possible that eliminating greed and fear, that being a spiritual aspirant of the noblest purpose, is compatible with making money? Can spiritual people be rich? If they feel like being rich, should they be? Will the divine hand make rich those who deserve it? Are you sure that your incarnational plan involves constant stress about money? Is it possible that the clouds will break and you'll have an epiphany, an opening of the chakras and a resetting of the energy, that just ENDS this cycle? Why not you? And - why do I like Ratnasambhava so much as a friend? Is DMCubic just delusional? ;-)

10. I would also HIGHLY recommend getting rid of ANY stolen goods in the house. When I deleted 80 GB of pirated music, I felt my chakras release a major blockage *immediately.* You can still find playlists on YouTube and listen to your favorite songs. But in my opinion, stealing will keep you feeling broke and depressed, and I found out directly that digital piracy is definitely stealing because it eased a karmic burden for me to dispose of all that stuff on my hard drive.

11. There is a pair of boxer shorts my mom got me for Christmas which I love. It's decorated with rolls of toilet paper, except the squares are $100 bills, and it says "THIS IS HOW I ROLL" all over it. Try and find them and splurge on a silly item. Wear them with pride.

I feel that the world of economics and finance - of money - is beautiful. Here in 3D, money is an angel covered in superficial stains. She's glorious, but we hate her and lust for her and kill her before she can smile on us. Remember, Spaceship Earth will basically look like third density for another 100 years or so. Even when we all work together, will we still need loans? As we go into 4D's early stages, will it still be useful to have a stock market? Is there anything wrong with a mutually satisfying financial transaction? Will there *ever* be anything wrong with it?

Remember, do only what resonates with you, but my personal hope is that you will engage in these suggested courses of action with talismanic intent, with a true sense that you are a magical being, and that the Divine Hand wants to be your hand moving those Monopoly pieces and stuffing your wallet with paper. Magic is everywhere, and in the Creation, Hope is everywhere. You are not alone and powerful forces will aid you if you take true action in ANY way to break this vicious cycle. I would advise you to keep your expectations open.

Incredible stuff DMCubic.

This one works for me (a starving artist): I always try to visualize money coming from everywhere around me! Like someone turned on an industrial sized fan and the room is filled with cash. Once you start doing it it becomes more and more ingrained in the unconscious, so with all that time that I used to normally spend worrying, I just pop in my visual reel of cash filling up my pockets and me being able to help all my friends and give freely to others.

Yesterday I was in a pretty high vibration where all day long people were just giving me things and I even found an extra 10 bucks in my pocket that I can't account for. Its amazing what a mindset of abundance will do for one's life! Remember: whatever mindset you operate in is what the universe will give you.

Thanks for the compliment, johnnylightworker. I like to visualize myself as Ratnasambhava sometimes, albeit nontraditional - a banker's pinstripe suit and five huge rings on each hand, with a different colored jewel for each of the five elements. I carry a briefcase full of bonds and stocks and when I open it, they fly out in all directions ensuring that all beings have a stake in the profits of my corporation. I'm the *man*.

I love doing that.

You should throw a pimp hat on that guy

Spaced, I just noticed another pattern in your original post:

Quote:I feel like I've had a lot of catalyst in this life teaching me the sillyness of materialism, it seems anytime I get attached to an object or try to start collecting something it gets taken away from me, and I'm fine with that. I've known since I was very young that I do not need money or possessions to be happy, but now it's getting to be more of a survival issue...

Are you *really* fine with having the things you want taken away from you? This pattern besets my friend also. This is all my personal take on the situation - free will disclaimer here - but are you *sure* this catalyst is teaching you the silliness of materialism? What else could it be about?

Could it be about standing your ground and accepting the human status of having material needs?

Could it be about standing your ground and accepting the human spiritual need for beauty and comfort?

Could it be about the idea that the spiritual path must be walked in austerity?

Could it be about the idea that having more than you explicitly need is unspiritual?

Could it be about the need to accept third density conditions and find your spiritual home here instead of possibly being subconsciously stuck on "home" being a higher density?

I feel like a subconscious desire to return to your original density may be a serious issue here. You're on Earth. Earth provides third-density requirements for third-density people if they are balanced, and Earth won't waste a wanderer. But they have to know deep down they're third density now. And if your spirit hasn't digested this, I fear that it may begin to countenance thoughts of suicide.

The "S-word" is a sticky one and frightens everyone, but people think about it all the time and it's not dangerous per se. You have to get into a really deep depression and stew over it constantly to be in danger of doing it. I mean, I wished I was dead once because I had two ten-page papers to write in two nights. THE REST OF MY LIFE WILL BE HELL!! IT MUST BE LIKE THIS FOREVER!! For a minute, I honestly thought about the wisdom of maybe chucking myself off a bridge. And I've endured years of quasi-suicidality which was strong and very depressive, but I knew I was far from being able to do it. (Success story: all better now.)

This is not to trivialize the gravity of your financial problem. And I really feel like the sensitivity of this issue must be recognized if it is to be discussed publicly. Also, the possibility is wide open that you don't have any sort of suicidal thoughts and that I'm raising hackles just because I'm a shoddy armchair therapist, and that you may see me as condescending for bringing it up, which would be fine. But I'm concerned that if on any level the desire to leave this density and go back to your starting ground is buried in you, some suicidal-spectrum thoughts may arise. Wanderers who know they are not of this insanity, as Ra put it, can hardly avoid this. I'm sure all of us know your pain if this is what's going on. All of us want to be in a more comfortable place. That's why we want so bad to change this reality.

But think about it - if you have a desire to go home which is more than just a pining for brighter lights and greener pastures and is starting to turn into despair at being here in this "hellhole," AND if you are a wanderer whose manifesting power is almost certainly really high to begin with, AND if you are experiencing any sort of self-hatred or desire to end this incarnation sooner rather than later, how could your manifesting-power NOT put you in this situation? You want to go home. You want to die and go home, but the thought is in the back of your mind and it's quiet but you can feel it simmering. Maybe you are afraid to touch it or acknowledge it. You may be afraid you'd actually do it. You know better than to do it because you've read Ra's warnings, and those of others. So you won't *really* hurt yourself. But that quasi-suicidality building up back there is now saying HEY - LISTEN. It's taken control of your manifestation process to get you to listen. And as you say, this is a survival issue now. This looks to me like an urge to self-harm may be subconsciously acting out through your psychic ability to control your environment. Perhaps deep down you feel that you can't use your own hands to harm yourself. But if you split off and repress your hatred of this density and nurse a desperation to return home, the desperation will add to the hatred every time you add to it, the hatred will sink deeper into your energy because it's so natural to fear the darkness, and the divine plan will then move into a phase where your shadow has to be given control of your magic-power in order to covertly act out the drama of self-harm which your psyche needs to perform because the stress is getting unbearable.

Suicidality offered me a choice. I had to take a leap of faith and trust that things here were good. This is why the veil is here, to help us do that. You can have my personal assurance that I have had a big turnaround since I felt like that, and that I stopped feeling that way. I went from being a cold, nihilistic atheist who believed it was an immense moral crime to have children in this world to someone who sees spiritual light everywhere. As for the powerful mystics, the ones with the real light-connection, the psychics and channelers and saints and buddhas, I hated hated HATED them for being in that position, so high over me, loving and enjoying and being happy. I hated knowing that light was there but just not feeling it. But the divine plan moves on, and it moves on its own. The leaps of faith came naturally because I NEEDED them to. I knew how desperate I was getting, I knew it was literally do or die for me in terms of HAVING to choose love and trust or suicide. So I chose to love my pain and to let my pain bash around inside my skull until I screamed in the middle of parking lots alone at night in my car wanting to die. I let my searing hate fly out of my body at the saints; I ripped their skin off in my mind. That was the most authentic love I had sometimes, was the love and trust to explode in rage at this sh*tty density and the idiots who were ruining the planet.

Success story time: my intuition has gotten better and better over the years, the right people have come into my life, and every mistake and blip in the storyline now is seen as a setup for a bigger resolution that will be worth the temporary pain. I'm full of love; I'm where I wanted to be. I trusted enough to feel rage and hopelessness and to acknowledge that part of me did want to die. I had to fear that urge and respect it for its spiritual danger and see the dark beauty in it - that God could bring people here just to get them to take the next step. When faced with the wanderer's double bind - kill myself and then dwell in darkness, or stay here and dwell in darkness - I just trusted no matter how bad it got and things just pulled through.

I want to reiterate, before I use rhetorical flourish, that you must choose to believe or not to believe this yourself. And like I said, I have no real way of knowing if *any* of this applies to you one lick, Spaced. But you MUST face your fear on this path and you CANNOT expect a fear of third density's stubborn matter and the money whose power in consensus reality allows us to alchemically transform the configuration of that matter to do anything but jam up your chakras and one day throw a tantrum you cannot ignore.

If my assessment of the situation seems correct, please see the light in this. You may very well be suffering right now because you're a very powerful magician, not because you're getting screwed by the world. This is one of those Sorcerer's Apprentice trials, if I'm right. You seem to have incarnated with a strong desire to use magic/manifestation to get what you want. Subconsciously you're doing just that, twisted as it sounds. You also seem to have a need for Earth magic to focus this.

AFTER YOU READ THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH, READ MY NEXT POST DOWN IN THE THREAD WHERE I EXPLAIN HOW I WAS WRONG.

As an esoteric practice IMO nothing beats what the Tibetans call Guru Yoga. It's very simple: pick a target mind out there in the cosmos and open your crown chakra. Let your mind mix with that mind. And that's the practice. You can absorb imprints of well-grounded people like those businessmen I mentioned, as well as any saint, spirit, power animal, or higher-density being. It works with stones and computers and fictional characters. I owe all my esoteric success, basically, to that simple practice. You can isolate any being's higher self by choice so even very evil people can be tapped. I recommend Adolf Hitler if you want to feel the energy of pure forgiveness. Makes sense, right? If you can forgive yourself for Nazi Germany, you can forgive anyone and make them feel like they can forgive themselves, too.

IF YOU READ THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH, PLEASE SEE MY LATER POST WHERE I EXPLAIN HOW IT IS WRONG.

Again, I truly apologize if I have overreached or gotten preachy in this post. I prefer not to pussyfoot when I write but I do respect your autonomy and the possibility that I've missed every call so far. But at this point I've basically given you all I can in terms of my perspective on the situation. I'd say "hopefully all things will go well for you," but hope is for people who don't know that the unending revelation of God needs no human hope to crank its engine. It goes as it goes and it is all-good.

Namaste~

This thread is like a guiding light for me, thank you all for caring enough to help me out in my time of need.

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I can feel the love

This is an important retraction of a statement I made above. Please read it if you have read my other posts.

Above I posted:

Quote:As an esoteric practice IMO nothing beats what the Tibetans call Guru Yoga. It's very simple: pick a target mind out there in the cosmos and open your crown chakra. Let your mind mix with that mind. And that's the practice. You can absorb imprints of well-grounded people like those businessmen I mentioned, as well as any saint, spirit, power animal, or higher-density being. It works with stones and computers and fictional characters. I owe all my esoteric success, basically, to that simple practice. You can isolate any being's higher self by choice so even very evil people can be tapped. I recommend Adolf Hitler if you want to feel the energy of pure forgiveness. Makes sense, right? If you can forgive yourself for Nazi Germany, you can forgive anyone and make them feel like they can forgive themselves, too.

Funny how fast you can learn in this game. Sometimes the light acts in weird ways and you get a chance to swallow your pride and admit you were wrong. I just had a friend with much more experience than me in the psychic arts that this is a BAD idea. Let me tell you why:

1. Overworking your crown chakra is not good. It's easy to get addicted to the thrill of psychic openness and negative energies can creep in. Negs are smarter than you, more powerful than you, and subtle in their ways. If you overuse your crown chakra you are susceptible to negative greetings.

2. Are you SURE you can focus your mind enough only to access an entity's higher self, and not lower parts? If not, maybe Hitler isn't so smart.

3. Are you SURE you're sure?? Have you talked to someone more practiced than you in these arts who's made mistakes you can learn from without your having to repeat them yourself?

4. The thrill of openness and crown-communion with all the myriad points in the spread of stars that's All that Is is also something that can cause an imbalance. It can be like being in a store where EVERYTHING is very pretty and desirable, and you just can't stop shifting your eyes around and around and around to take it in. It feeds the monkey mind in a big way if you get addicted to this.

Just be careful, please. I can't believe how fast the universe hands out lessons. We're *definitely* hitting the singularity soon. :-)

Be brave, seekers, and do your dharma.

We applaud you for your brave realizations, bodhisattva.

I pretty much agree with a lot of Siren's post. As things or methods to strive for....except # 2

2. Learn to detach, learn to let go.

Attachments and entanglements, of any kind whatsoever, will directly or indirectly create a relationship of emotional dependency which will in one way or another affect you adversely (i.e. you will have trouble letting go, resisting change, or "losing" that object or that person, and this will invariably cause you a certain degree of emotional pain). To put it bluntly: learn to be free from everything and everyone; be prepared and willing to abandon everything at any moment and joyfully embark on a new journey. Adopting this "carefree" attitude will serve you well.
This also applies to cleaning up the slates and starting all over again from scratch, so to speak.
Knowing that the phoenix can be reborn from its own ashes, what is there to be lost, really?

I wholeheartedly disagree with the mindset of freedom at the cost of love of your fellow humans. Thats what this statement seems to imply. At least to me. And its fairly rampant in a lot of new age thinking that puts forward the ideas and cares of the individual ahead of the group..or family.

" To put it bluntly: learn to be free from everything and everyone....?"

No man is an island someone once said. How can you ever love that which you are striving to be free of? I think the challenge is to come to terms with ups and downs of life amongst the crowd and the world. To choose how to react to the catalyst of the day. Thats where your "Free Will" and "Choice" reside.

There is nothing wrong with relationships. Its how we handle them that is the challenge.

Richard

I also at times feel a bit lacking in the material dealings of things.

I think it would be very helpful for you to see the Creator as a "Mother" in your times of lack. In other words, focus on the feminine aspect of never-ending support and care. The material world seems cold, but the Creator is the warmth that helps you through.

(08-14-2012, 02:24 PM)Richard Wrote: [ -> ]I wholeheartedly disagree with the mindset of freedom at the cost of love of your fellow humans. Thats what this statement seems to imply. At least to me.

Richard, I believe your intepretation is somewhat misdirected. What I mean by being "free from" seems to be often very easily misunderstood.

What I was referring could perhaps be best described by this quote:

Ra Wrote:It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not.

Quote:No man is an island someone once said. How can you ever love that which you are striving to be free of?

Being "free of" does not negate nor cancel the ability/opportunity to LOVE. I'd be the first to say I am all the "evil" in this world, so I do not seek to separate myself from anything. Freedom does not necessarily imply separation.

Quote:There is nothing wrong with relationships.

Wholeheartedly agree. Never have I said nor implied relationships were "wrong." Absolutely EVERYTHING in the Creation is about relationships. Relationships are the dynamic of Creation.

Lastly, may I remind you:
All begins and ends with the self.

So I've been trying to put into practice some of the things you guys have been posting in here. Instead of stressing about money I've adopted a more relaxed attitude regarding it and in my meditations I've been imagining $20 bills falling like snow. . .

Anyhow, I got my paycheck today and for some reason it's almost twice as big as my usual paychecks . . . I'm not gonna question it, I'm just going to thank you guys again

Quote:Anyhow, I got my paycheck today and for some reason it's almost twice as big as my usual paychecks . . . I'm not gonna question it, I'm just going to thank you guys again

<strikes pose> Looks like my work here is done.

(08-14-2012, 03:57 PM)Spaced Wrote: [ -> ]So I've been trying to put into practice some of the things you guys have been posting in here. Instead of stressing about money I've adopted a more relaxed attitude regarding it and in my meditations I've been imagining $20 bills falling like snow. . .

Anyhow, I got my paycheck today and for some reason it's almost twice as big as my usual paychecks . . . I'm not gonna question it, I'm just going to thank you guys again

Awesome to hear that brotha, this week I'm eagerly anticipating my manifestation to pay first months rent on my new apartment! I just re-watched The Secret last night, and I feel like that is a wonderful movie to boost the realization and faith in one's own intentions, wishes and thoughts as they are realized in the third density. I'm sure most of you have seen it, and the laws governing it are nothing new by any means, but I for one know I need a reminder to keep the neuron machine oiled every once and a while.

It made my heart happy to read that Spaced, and I'm sure everyone on this board's intentions are signalling the universe to reinforce your own.