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The Truth About Western Science

This is a good read;

Quote:In tracing the origins of the school of thought we have come to know as Science, it's necessary to go back to the time of the English monarch, Charles II. And the formation of an organisation called the Royal Society - a group of learned men in England whose ideas became the basis for many of our current beliefs, both scientific and otherwise. The school of thought that became the legacy of the Royal Society is commonly known as Cartesian Dualism or the Newtonian Paradigm, names referring to two of it's principal creators - Rene Descartes and Isaac Newton. It was not created by the Royal Society, but it was their influence that made it the mainstay of todays scientific community.

Fundamental to what we now regard simply as 'science' are the concepts of reductionism and empiricism. Empiric science is a science that is experimentally reproducible. The need for experimental reproducibility is today the cornerstone of scientific method. A hypothesis is developed. It is tested experimentally and then other scientists reproduce the tests. If, from examining the results of the experiments, the hypothesis appears to be valid, a theory is developed.

Reductionism refers to the notion that we make comprehend something's true nature by examining its component parts.

But did Descartes, Newton and the founder members of the Royal Society actually believe in what they taught?

It's my opinion that not only were they fully aware of the incredibly limited breadth of vision of their creation, but that they deliberately deceived humanity for reasons I'll shortly go into.

Robert Boyle, John Wilkins, John Wallis, John Evelyn, Robert Hooke, Christopher Wren, Isaac Newton and William Petty. These are the names of some of the most important characters involved in the formation of the school of thought that, to this day, totally permeates our lives. The materialist logic that ultimately dictates our conscious and even subconscious thought processes.

Let's have a look at the background of these people and see if we notice anything interesting. What thing did the founder members of the Royal Society have in common?

Well, they were all very senior members of a Judaeo-Christian esoteric order whose beliefs are known as Rosicrucianism. And whose origins are shrouded in mystery.

Rosicrucianism has, in the background, been highly influential in the development of modern society. And is regarded as the occult or mystical source of freemasonry. In the modern era, it is believed to have resurfaced following the discovery of the ancient tomb of Christian Rosencreutz in Germany. It's founder in the modern era is believed by many to have been Francis Bacon.

Rosicrucianism derives its mystical knowledge from a variety of sources - Qabbala, Tarot, Bible, Torah and Sepher Yetzirah to name a few and is considered the mainspring of Western esoteric thought. Here are a few of the typical beliefs of seventeenth century Rosicrucians:

(i) The universe is fundamentally non-material and composed of the same thing - spirit. Solidity is illusory. Everything develops from this "one-thing" by adaptation. Pre-existent to the one thing is primordial, unconscious non-manifest source. This 'pre-existing entity' gives birth to existence via the interraction of its two opposing poles - being and becoming.

(ii) The human being is fundamentally a multi-dimensional, immortal entity created by and existing in Spirit. We have multiple bodies, some mortal, some immortal. Experiences on the physical plane feed information back up the system and cause development at the immortal level. The system in not energetically causal in the traditional sense understood by the majority of people. The physical universe in fact exists to facilitate karmic release and evolution, these are its prime motivating functions.

(iii) The phenomena of the physical world that surround us may be manipulated in and out of existence by anyone who understands the true nature of the universe as described above. The manipulation of visual imagery, frequently backed up with ritual and 'words of power' can thus bring about desired situations or physical states.

You don't need to be a Science major to see that little of this sits comfortably with the materialist belief systems handed down to us by these people. (Though you may notice that the first belief is actually very close to what many quantum physicists tell us the universe is actually like.)

So, here we have a group of learned men, all very serious devotees of an occult order. Yet all gathering together to create a school of thought utterly at odds with it. Creating a system utterly dependent on the experimental and reproducible observation of phenomena, when they themselves believed that the secrets of the universe could far easier be accessed by development of subjective analysis. Why did they spend years building a school of scientific thought absolutely and totally dependent on concepts they fully believed were fatally flawed?

Were they all suddenly embarrassed by the foolishness of these occult beliefs? Unlikely, as these were all very powerful and influential people. (Apart from being Rosicrucians, they were all also very senior level freemasons). They didn't need to care what others thought of them. So why did they do it?

I suggest that they did it for the specific purpose of concealing occult knowledge from the masses. They created and gave validity to a system of highly limited beliefs simply to preserve their own knowledge between themselves and the order they were members of.

It is interesting to note that from the seventeenth century onward, bright young men and women were drawn less and less into studying the occult, and more and more into studying empiric science. Within about 150 years, empiric science was revered as the one, true belief and the occult ridiculed as superstitious nonsense. A situation that remains to this day.

Now let's move on to an even more sinister area. The establishment of the modern mass media. And how our exposure to it actually blocks our spiritual development!

Rosicrucians believe that the universe we each of us experience is created by the way we imprint our self-conscious experiences on our subconscious mind. The patterns we thus impress via our conscious interpretation of our experiences alter the world around us. In other words, the events that occur in our lives are brought to us, not by causal interactions with our environment, but by the machinations of the subconscious mind. Rosicrucians believe that all so-called "matter" or substance is ultimately just an extension of the subconscious.

Bombard the conscious mind with information, therefore, that can only be interpreted and acted on by one form of dualist conscious processing - as the modern mass media does very well - and the Universe we experience becomes logical and obedient to the laws of science. We are literally thinking the causal universe into existence!

(Before you collapse in hysterics at such lunacy, remember for a moment that the very people who created our existing school of beliefs, people like Rene Descartes and Isaac Newton, must have believed this implicitly. They were both obsessed with what we know as magic. Newton alone spent decades of his life studying the occult. He like Boyle was a long-serving grandmaster of the infamous Priory of Sion - the French elitist organisation still committed to returning the Merovingian dynasty to the French monarchy, believing them to be the bloodline of Christ.)

Chronic overexposure to modern mass media, (ie everyday life for most of us), with its increasing uniformity of information formatting, causes the subconscious to be configured in a materialist, objective way. We begin to create the logical, causal universe we know so well, simply by being surrounded by TV and newspapers all our life.

The mass media therefore, can actually be thought of as an occult brainwashing technique! Because our subconscious minds are all being formatted into a materialist structure by our exposure to media, the universe we experience, the events that come to us in our lives, all begin to all conform to the laws of rational science.

The truth of the matter is that our real level of scientific knowledge now is minimal compared to that held in the 17th Century. Although we've succeeded in unlocking some amazing secrets in the so-called "material world", this only occurred because the true nature of the universe was successfully concealed from generations of scientists.

And the legacy of these achievements is a mass media literally imprisoning us in a material world.

The history of the last three hundred and fifty odd years is the history of a black magic control fantasy made manifest before our very eyes!

-Nick Sandbery

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/online/science2.html

This was a great read. Thank you! It really offers some perspective on science as we see it (and honors it) today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newto...lt_studies

Quote:Newton and The Rosicrucians
Perhaps the movement which most influenced Isaac Newton was Rosicrucianism. Though the Rosicrucian movement had caused a great deal of excitement within Europe's scholarly community during the early seventeenth century, by the time Newton had reached maturity the movement had become less sensationalized. However, the Rosicrucian movement still would have a profound influence upon Newton, particularly in regard to his alchemical work and philosophical thought.
The Rosicrucian belief in being specially chosen for the ability to communicate with angels or spirits is echoed in Newton's prophetic beliefs. Additionally, the Rosicrucians proclaimed to have the ability to live forever through the use of the elixir vitae and the ability to produce limitless amounts of time and gold from the use of The Philosopher's Stone, which they claimed to have in their possession. Like Newton, the Rosicrucians were deeply religious, avowedly Christian, anti-Catholic, and highly politicised. Isaac Newton would have a deep interest in not just their alchemical pursuits, but also their belief in esoteric truths of the ancient past and the belief in enlightened individuals with the ability to gain insight into nature, the physical universe, and the spiritual realm.

At the time of his death, Isaac Newton had 169 books on the topic of alchemy in his personal library, and was believed to have considerably more books on this topic during his Cambridge years, though he may have sold them before moving to London in 1696. For its time, his was considered one of the finest alchemical libraries in the world. In his library, Newton left behind a heavily annotated personal copy of "The Fame and Confession of the Fraternity R.C.", by Thomas Vaughan which represents an English translation of The Rosicrucian Manifestos. Newton also possessed copies of "Themis Aurea" and "Symbola Aurea Mensae Duodecium" by the learned alchemist Michael Maier, both of which are significant early books about the Rosicrucian movement. These books were also extensively annotated by Newton.

Newton's ownership of these materials by no means denotes membership within any early Rosicrucian order. Furthermore, considering that his personal alchemical investigations were focused upon discovering materials which the Rosicrucians professed to already be in possession of long before he was born, would seem to some to exclude Newton from their membership. However, in religious terms, the fact that a saint might have ‘found God’ would not preclude others from the search — quite the opposite. The Ancient & Mystical Order Rosae Crucis has always claimed Newton as a frater. During his own life, Newton was openly 'accused' of being a Rosicrucian, as were many members of The Royal Society. Though it is not known for sure if Isaac Newton was in fact a Rosicrucian, and he never publicly identified himself as one, from his writings it does appear that he may have shared many of their sentiments and beliefs.

Tangentially related:

Quote:Newton's Atlantis
Found within "The Chronology of Ancient Kingdoms", are several passages that directly mention the mythical land of Atlantis. The first such passage is part of his Short Chronical which indicates his belief that Homer's Ulysses left the island of Ogygia in 896 BC. In Greek Mythology, Ogygia was home to Calypso, the daughter of Atlas (after whom Atlantis was named). Some scholars have suggested that Ogygia and Atlantis are locationally connected, or possibly the same island. From his writings it appears Newton may have shared this belief. Newton also lists Cadis or Cales as possible candidates for Ogygia, though does not cite his reasons for believing so. Within the same material Newton mentions that according to ancient sources, Atlantis had been as big as all Europe, Africa and Asia, but was sunk into the Sea.

Science subscribes to 10 dogmas. And until those 10 dogmas are accepted by mainstream science as unsubstantiated fiction, there can be no significant progress in Science.

1. Everything is essentially mechanical. Dogs, for example, are complex mechanisms, rather than living organisms with goals of their own. Even people are machines, ‘lumbering robots’, in Richard Dawkins’s vivid phrase, with brains that are like genetically programmed computers.

2. All matter is unconscious. It has no inner life or subjectivity or point of view. Even human consciousness is an illusion produced by the material activities of brains.

3. The total amount of matter and energy is always the same (with the exception of the Big Bang, when all the matter and energy of the universe suddenly appeared).

4. The laws of nature are fixed. They are the same today as they were at the beginning, and they will stay the same for ever.

5. Nature is purposeless, and evolution has no goal or direction.

6. All biological inheritance is material, carried in the genetic material, DNA, and in other material structures.

7. Minds are inside heads and are nothing but the activities of brains. When you look at a tree, the image of the tree you are seeing is not ‘out there’, where it seems to be, but inside your brain.

8. Memories are stored as material traces in brains and are wiped out at death.

9. Unexplained phenomena like telepathy are illusory.

10. Mechanistic medicine is the only kind that really works.

You can read more about it in Rupert Sheldrake's book : Science Set Free.

Or watch more here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waMBY3qEA4

(02-11-2013, 08:18 PM)Parsons Wrote: [ -> ]During his own life, Newton was openly 'accused' of being a Rosicrucian, as were many members of The Royal Society. Though it is not known for sure if Isaac Newton was in fact a Rosicrucian, and he never publicly identified himself as one,

Someone came up with a pointless conspiracy about "ferris wheels", implying that there were sinister connections to its design. He described George W. Ferris as a Master Freemason and so there must be hidden meaning. Because all "secret societies" keep secrets from us.

He implied that this...........




Is connected to this............



I described it as a symbol of the wheel of time/life, which is no secret, and that actual secrets are mostly kept by us, who choose to remain ignorant.









Maybe he was right, that Tibetan dude looks pretty sinister.

Quote:80.10 It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not.

I call bullshit. The scientific method is the best approach we have for relating science. And they knew that.

And thus is much friction on this forum born.

(02-11-2013, 08:59 PM)Guardian Wrote: [ -> ]4. The laws of nature are fixed. They are the same today as they were at the beginning, and they will stay the same for ever.

I have been mulling this over a lot lately. The idea that physics/nature is fixed runs contrary(in my thinking) to what we have learned about harvest, cycles, and fourth density where the very core vibration of atoms change and consciousness evolves.

(02-12-2013, 03:58 PM)Parsons Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-11-2013, 08:59 PM)Guardian Wrote: [ -> ]4. The laws of nature are fixed. They are the same today as they were at the beginning, and they will stay the same for ever.

I have been mulling this over a lot lately. The idea that physics/nature is fixed runs contrary(in my thinking) to what we have learned about harvest, cycles, and fourth density where the very core vibration of atoms change and consciousness evolves.

Cycles are a natural process. Evolution is a natural process. If the harvest doesn't follow natural laws then how would Ra have known about it?

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Science is not the enemy, seperation of science and spirituality is.

By being able to move about in 3 dimensional time?

(02-12-2013, 03:58 PM)Parsons Wrote: [ -> ]I have been mulling this over a lot lately. The idea that physics/nature is fixed runs contrary(in my thinking) to what we have learned about harvest, cycles, and fourth density where the very core vibration of atoms change and consciousness evolves.

And scientists know this...Even back to Newton. Hence the unbelievably ridiculous false dichotomy. This so-called "truth" is quite a fabrication born from infantile fantasy and only given creedence by people who don't know history, science or logic.

Science is more of understanding 2d laws/mechanics I think. Science is real, but so is consciousness and its affects on the system. Everything follows a blue-print until changes are made... if that makes sense.

Anyways that's how I see it. I could be completely wrong.

Science derives from Latin scientia which literally means knowledge. Like many other words, it is grossly misinterpreted, misused, and misapplied. "Science" nowadays has come to be associated with microscopes, labs, rats, and brains (as if that were the only one and true way to know!); strictly segregating it from all metaphysical/spiritual connotations.

By definition, the terms "science" and "scientist" apply to anything and anyone who consciously seeks to and does acquire knowledge by study.

And do not overlook this either: conscience. From Latin con (with, within) + scientia (knowledge, knowing).