(11-13-2012, 11:08 PM)Gribbons Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2012, 12:23 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2012, 12:57 PM)Cyan Wrote: [ -> ]If majority Aye! then "our view" humanity agrees to respect animals and we can refer to it in future conversations as de jure "my humanity".
If we are to define animals as humans, then we might as well include all other lifeforms as well. If not for microbes, algae, and fungi, there certainly wouldn't be any "higher" forms of life. Maybe we should pay more respect to bacteria as well...
Earplugs won't block out the scream of a cow having her newborn calf taken away from her. They scream for days.
Elephants chained to the ground holler and rampage for weeks until they give up and never try again.
Animals have emotions you can't deny unless your paid to be cruel and desensitized.
However I have been learning more about hunting deer, and how if the population soars, so do predators. However, we are so detached from the process of taking life for survival, that there's no way we can honestly feel any "real genuine" gratification for it anymore at all, unless you really know what it is you're doing, and that requires experience, IMO.
And even hunters know how to get them down in a matter of seconds. I'm coming to see it as a very respectful and aware way of being one with nature.
And that is the problem at its core; extremity and unbalance.
The ways of nature have been interfered with by those who attempt to acquire for themselves at all cost, without mercy,compassion or consideration of anything except the means to achieving their goal of 'self satisfaction'. This is the antithesis of survival of the fittest, in that within this system of personal gain, it is all about 'survival of the greediest'. And those caught up within this system cannot remove themselves from it by delusions that greed, self satisfaction, does not appeal to them, or that they are opposed to it. If they are in the system, regardless of degree, they are a reason why that system succeeds.
Consider the position you would be in if you had lived in the times when man was a hunter gatherer. The very survival of your family depended on the killing of animals. If you had to choose between feeding and clothing your baby waiting at home, or the innocent deer in your line of aim, the last thing you are considering is the screaming grief of its mother.
But, as you acknowledged, there was a sacred bond between man and the creatures which sustain him, which was respected and honored by man. This was the Pagan way which was abolished by the hierarchy because of its barrier to the success of self gratification. And I refer not to the modern definitions and corruptions of paganism which is wrongfully associated with black magic and perversions of occultism and alchemy. I refer to the ancient wisdoms and ways of those who understood far more than today's manipulated minds.
In the system now, man has gone to the extreme, and sanctity falls by the wayside to greed and wealth.
All extremity will manifest such corruptions of nature and disruption of the delicate harmony of the natural ways.
The problem is how does a world of advanced technologies and lifestyles of luxury and greed revert to the natural ways of their ancestors, considered by most to be more primitive.
Many are saying naively that its just a matter of using humane methods or abstaining from meat. But such naivety does not consider the grip which the system holds our world in, and in its ignorant delusion such naivety is a form of extremity itself.
To be extremely ignorant of the system while one immerses themselves deeply into it, is just as unbalanced as the extremity of religious fundamentalism or the hierarchy of capitalistic greed.
As long as we are living in our environment of quick transportation, immediate access to mass marketing, and the many opportunities to achieve ease of lifestyle, willfully playing in the game of the rich getting richer using the worker ants to achieve further wealth at all costs, with no accountability, it is sheer ignorance to suggest ways to improve upon the lives of others.
The farmer that butchers a sow to feed the village which depends on him is not to be judged for the despair of the other pigs on the farm or the pain of slaughter.
What needs to be judged is the system which exaggerates that process a thousand times, because a few are able to promote it and acquire wealth from it.
What needs to be judged are the mindsets of those who willfully enable that system to prosper by their participation within it.
What needs to be judged is one's choices to adopt extremity as a lifestyle and then judge everyone else on their choices and decisions to do the same.
I applaud any effort to make this world a better place. My entire life revolves around enchanting my little part of this creation. But I am in no way going to delude myself into believing that everyone else should live in the same frame of mind, nor am I foolish enough to hypocritically 'outbark' every other dog in the neighborhood.
I know that I am caught up in the system.
I know that innocence suffers at my expense.
I know that there are many things I could be doing that might make a difference.
I also know that I am unwilling to give up certain aspects of life in order to practice what I preach.
Do I think that the only solution is for the entire world to revert to living like natives in the wild?
No!
Because the real problem, the hierarchy, would not follow, and would fight to the death of all that threaten their lifestyle.
Any mass attempt to change the world from its present state of being to a more natural and balanced way of being would certainly result in a worldwide war between the elite and those they enslave. As long as even the wealthy elite deny their 'true identity' for the sake of 'self identity', even they are enslaved to the system. When one denies their true state of being, for the well being of their delusional 'self alone', they become a tooth in the gear of that system of delusion, regardless of the extent which one may deceivingly benefit from such delusion.
The victor in a war between the slave drivers and the slaves would not be the passive mentality of the compassionate. The victor will be the one with the whip and the disregard for compassion and sanctity of respect for The Other, for the sake of self benefit. This has always been the Achilles heel of mankind; the weapon used against us which is the very essence which should be a human quality. This weapon has long been employed in battle with the knowledge that most will fall victim to it. Using women and children as human shields is not an act of ignorance. It is an act of clever intellect and understanding, no matter how deplorable.
The truth is that this is the state of being of the human being. This is the human 'being'. And there is no going back until the elite and hierarchy are somehow forced to revert by some cataclysm or unavoidable, instantaneous 'global change'.
Standing on the side of the road with a picket sign, and then driving home to your 'heated house' in your 'gasoline burning automobile', turning on your 'electric lighting system',and opening your refrigerator to grab a 'quick snack', while sitting back into the comfort of your 'leather' sofa to watch your favorite 'television show', is as extreme an ignorance as the terrorist hiding in a corner waiting to blow up a building for what 'he' believes is the right thing to do.
Your way may not involve murder, but the extremity of unbalanced attitude and complete ignorance of the ways of the world are just as harmful to human harmony and creature compassion as are the terrorist's desires, hopes and beliefs.
Understanding and balance cannot be dismissed under the guise of compassion and respect for all. For understanding and balance are the staples of evolved being; not majority opinion, nor individual definitions of compassion and understanding.
Harmony is not realized in 'your' definition or rationalization of what should be.
Harmony is compensating 'your' for 'our'.
And this truth and wisdom is the teaching behind the Law of One and the very evolution of The One Consciousness as the All rather than The One alone.
When we expect the Other to be our own reflection, we assume that false identity of self, which in its very nature desires to nurture itself in self gratification.
When we see The Other as an 'Other than Self', and afford it the same free will as we claim ourselves, in order to accomplish that successfully, then values such as compensation, patience and tolerance are absolutes that cannot be dismissed.
As your 'other', i ask this of you.
As 'Self', I offer this to you.
As 'One' we cannot escape it without becoming unbalanced aspects of nature.
As 'All', such offering has been both, the evolving aspect of existence which has brought us to higher being, as well as the most seclusive attributes of true self.
Sacrifice is the 'natural essence of being', and it is also the thorn in the side of every 'self gratification'.
The extremity of this 'way of being' has been seen from the perverted aspects of it found on the altars of the Aztecs to the Christian crucifix.
Man has long been aware of this truth, and it has bled through the veins of man's very existence on this planet, twisted into his every legend and faith filled myth.
The main ingredient for the recipe of harmony between The Self and the Other, missing in the 'chalice of human ritual' which they chase after as their 'holy grail', and found undeniably in the 'seven herbs' of the Alchemist's Graal, is pure, unadulterated understanding of this truth of 'self'.
Which is why Ancient Wisdom has always cried out, "Know Thyself."
It was never meant to be a cry to seek self gratification or to assume a temporary incarnation as one's true identity.
It has always been to point out the truth of 'The Other'; the natural Divine Design of duality; the desire and 'authority' of The One Consciousness to be 'NOT ALONE', and how 'It' sacrificed self and individual identity to achieve that 'state of being' in this 'Process of Being'.
Discovering the divine feminine within is NOT about discovering that you are The Creator. It simply means that you discover that what you think is 'self' is actually The Other; ever changing and ever evolving.
And NEVER you, alone.
When one attempts to assume an identity of self, they both deny the desire and authority of both The One Consciousness, and the Divine Design.
And yet, within that Design is the ever evolving opportunity to learn, or to be ignorant. This is the being of evolution of consciousness. And when one fragment attempts to deny choice to The Other, they do so in defiance of Divine Design and the reason for their very existence.
The question of real priority here is not whether or not we should act in compassion and respect toward others. Rather, it is whether or not each one of you can understand these dynamics of 'being', of 'process of being'!
In acceptance and understanding of this Sacred Eye of Divine Connection I avoid the intellectual desire to expose my wife's foolish attempts at blending her catholicism with the pagan wisdoms she also learns from me. And in its place I offer sacrifice to tolerance and patience, at the expense of being a harbinger truth and higher understanding. Why? Because to impose on her being, is to defy the process of being. And such avoidance of imposition is the legacy of love, and the evolution of higher understanding, if only on my part alone.
The Other must be allowed the same participation in the 'process of being' or the process does not move forward. and this immobility is the 'cycle of darkness' which the ancients are constantly warning us of, referred to often in The Emerald tablets of Thoth, as well as the teachings of the Law of One.
And every one who stands in rebellion with a picket sign, no matter the charity or concern, if they do so in delusion that they are not a cog in the very wheel they protest against, even in acknowledgment of any concessions and compensations they might make for their cause, stands in ultimate defiance of The Other and Divine Design; Process of Being. The Being of The One, which becomes The All, exclusively because there exists 'The Other'.
Understanding this is our evolution into Higher Being.
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