I'm a newcomer and this is my first post to the Bring4th forum. After reading and pondering the Ra Material, I find myself wondering at the strategy adopted by Ra in Egypt. The South American contact appears rational from several perspectives; a high-altitude location, easily identifiable from Earth orbit (especially given the Nasca Plain "carvings"), surrounding tribes at a stage of evolution amenable to guidance and encouragement, and a region inhabited by tribal groups with established and peaceful relations.
From these considerations, one might guess the high Himalayas as the next most likely target, given very similar circumstances from what is known of the historical period. Yet Ra chose Egypt as its milieu, a location and social environment quite dissimiliar and intellectually hostile to its stated aims.
Has anyone else given thought to this curiosity?
the closest i could find was the following
Quote:23.1 Questioner: You were speaking yesterday of the first contact made by the Confederation which occurred during our third major cycle. You stated that you appeared in the skies over Egypt at the same time, approximately, aid was first given to Atlantis. Can you tell me why you went to Egypt and your, shall we say, orientation of attitude and thinking when you first went to Egypt?
Ra: I am Ra. At the time of which you speak there were those who chose to worship the hawk-headed sun god which you know as vibrational sound complex, “Horus.” This vibrational sound complex has taken other vibrational sound complexes, the object of worship being the sun disc represented in some distortion.
We were drawn to spend some time, as you would call it, scanning the peoples for a serious interest amounting to a seeking with which we might help without infringement. We found that at that time the social complex was quite self-contradictory in its so-called religious beliefs and, therefore, there was not an appropriate calling for our vibration. Thus, at that time, which you know of as approximately eighteen thousand [18,000] of your years in your past, we departed without taking action.
Because the Ra material re-imagines the earth's history including the longevity of cultures and society like those of egypt, its difficult to say whether the alleged culture of egypt 18,000 years ago (according to Ra) actually corresponds with the social environment of egypt say 4000 years ago according to modern day historians. Its interesting that like you guessed, the culture of egypt was deemed by Ra as inappropriate for contact on their original pass through, and they waited till conditions were more suitable.
If you look at the below quote it actually details how the interaction of Ra with egypt was an ongoing process that spanned millenia in which they carefully interjected when conditions were ripe for their attempts at service.
Quote:23.6 Questioner: I see. Then at this time you did not contact them. Can you tell me the same— answer the same questions I just asked with respect to your next attempt to contact the Egyptians?
Ra: I am Ra. The next attempt was prolonged. It occurred over a period of time. The nexus, or center, of our efforts was a decision upon our parts that there was a sufficient calling to attempt to walk among your peoples as brothers.
We laid this plan before the Council of Saturn, offering ourselves as service-oriented Wanderers of the type which land directly upon the inner planes without incarnative processes. Thus we emerged, or materialized, in physical-chemical complexes representing as closely as possible our natures, this effort being to appear as brothers and spend a limited amount of time as teachers of the Law of One, for there was an ever-stronger interest in the sun body, and this vibrates in concordance with our particular distortions.
We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom we had offered ourselves in love/light.
The ones who were in contact with that geographical entity, which you know of as Atlantis, had conceived of the potentials for healing by use of the pyramid-shape entities. In considering this and making adjustments for the differences in the distortion complexes of the two geographical cultures, as you would call them, we went before the Council again, offering this plan to the Council as an aid to the healing and the longevity of those in the area you know of as Egypt. In this way we hoped to facilitate the learning process as well as offering philosophy articulating the Law of One. Again the Council approved.
Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago we entered, by thought-form, your— we correct this instrument. We sometimes have difficulty due to low vitality. Approximately eight five zero zero [8,500] years ago, having considered these concepts carefully, we returned, never having left in thought, to the thought-form areas of your vibrational planetary complex and considered for some of your years, as you measure time, how to appropriately build these structures.
The first, the Great Pyramid, was formed approximately six thousand [6,000] of your years ago. Then, in sequence, after this performing by thought of the building or architecture of the Great Pyramid using the more, shall we say, local or earthly material rather than thought-form material to build other pyramidical structures. This continued for approximately fifteen hundred [1,500] of your years.
Meanwhile, the information concerning initiation and healing by crystal was being given. The one known as “Akhenaten” was able to perceive this information without significant distortion and for a time, moved, shall we say, heaven and earth in order to invoke the Law of One and to order the priesthood of these structures in accordance with the distortions of initiation and true compassionate healing. This was not to be long-lasting.
At this entity’s physical dissolution from your third-density physical plane, as we have said before, our teachings became quickly perverted, our structures returning once again to the use of the so-called “royal” or those with distortions towards power.
i hope some of this helped answer your question.
welcome to the forums
I thought it was more to do with the belief system than location. Particularly belief that all things have consciousness
Quote:We are those of the Confederation who eleven thousand of your years ago came to two of your planetary cultures which were at that time closely in touch with the creation of the One Creator. It was our naïve belief that we could teach/learn by direct contact and the free will distortions of individual feeling or personality were in no danger, we thought, of being disturbed as these cultures were already closely aligned with a[n] all-embracing belief in the live-ness or consciousness of all.
Welcome to the forum, Colin!
Thanks for the welcome, the reply and the pertinent material. I am interested in correlating three external factors with the Ra Material, since I find that evidence from disparate traditions helps clarify all and establish the validity or otherwise of their claims, and/or our understanding of them.
The first is the old legend of a "fallen angel", a being of high evolutionary development (I'd guess Sixth Density) but negative disposition that came to Earth quite recently (sc. within the last twenty thousand years) and claimed it as his own. In this regard, Ra's refusal to state the number of Sixth Density entities on Earth at this time is perhaps significant.
The second is the Zoroastrian tradition, which focuses far more closely on the divide and conflict between a good and an evil 'god' than others - Ahura Mazda and Ahriman. This lends support to the previous point, and if true, may be a reason for Ra's decision to involve itself here.
The third is the information contained in a curious old document from the 1980s called 'War in Heaven' that is usually dismissed as fantastical, but which I find most enlightening.
Is anyone else familiar with these things, and so given thought to their possible relevance to the Ra Material>
I read somewhere about how a dark being "incarnated" as the Earth and displaced the consciousness of Gaia with its own and now there is an attempt to reincarnate the Earth as its true self, or something like that, I wish I could remember where I read that... not in the Ra material as far as I know. Hmm...
As an aside, anyone interested in UFO fact versus fiction should read The Roswell Legacy by Jesse Marcel Jr, the son of the 509th Base Intelligence Officer at the time of the infamous Roswell crash, published in 2009.
The determination of officialdom to cover up this incident and of academia to denounce the whole topic is quite remarkable. Their almost complete success may well prove complete as the younger generation loses interest in everything requiring critical thought, and the ability to exercize it.
All of which attests to an agenda of a potent being seeking recognition, not only as a deity - "... to reincarnate the Earth as its true self" as the previous post puts it - but to be recognized as The One True God of all creation, as I recall my original information suggested.
The doctrines of the Abrahamic religions, especially when opposed to the far more rational cosmological teachings of Buddhism, have always struck me as constituting the practical implementation of such an agenda.