(12-22-2013, 06:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2013, 06:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]Very simply, the ego is not inherently unconscious, therefore identification with thoughts is not ego.
Is the perceived function of the Ego not a result of Identifying with certain thoughts/beliefs?
Identification is how we get anything out of the density. You don't form experience all at once because it has to be put into a digestible form first.
But there is identification as an attachment with emotional charge conveyed and identification as a circumstantial placeholder for lack of better expressive form.
(12-22-2013, 06:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Identification with thoughts is one activity with which an unaccepting ego may engage.
Right, but it also seems as though the unaccepting qualities of the Ego is a result of prior identification with certain thoughts.
By unaccepting, I mean that given the ego draws from what has been consciously accepted so far, and that experience also dictates the qualities provided by the unconscious - or that which as not yet been accepted. That boundary is where identification is sustained, also guarded by ego. Jung called the maintained structure a "complex".
(12-22-2013, 06:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:The ego is our focal point of consciousness or seat of consciousness.
It seems to me as though the Ego acts as a filter through which the underlying consciousness/spark of awareness can make focus through when interfacing within 3D.
Or are you stating the underlying awareness which identifies with the thoughts is the Ego? Just trying to grasp your perspective here (You stated an 'Unaccepting Ego', which in this context would mean 'Unaccepting focal point of consciousness?'
By unaccepting ego, I mean for example an ego which unconsciously reacts to something due to non-acceptance rather than consciously participating in an experience. The ego does function as a filter.
(12-22-2013, 06:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2013, 06:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote: [ -> ]that which was unconscious becomes conscious and the perspective and activities of ego simply changes.
This seems to be the crux of it.
As an expansion of awareness is made, and that which was prior unconscious is now made conscious, is not the role of the Ego as we commonly define it to be essentially dissolved?
A role of ego is transcended with respect to that which has been integrated.
(12-22-2013, 06:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: [ -> ]At the present our Ego Identity (My Name/Label, being Female/Male, Tall/Short, Likes/Dislikes, Job/Role etc are thoughts/beliefs given by society) is who we define ourselves to be from the aspect of being 3D and manoeuvring therein.
Yes but again a transient ego behavior like maintaining a convenient identity, is not the ego itself.
(12-22-2013, 06:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: [ -> ]As we see ourselves more from what was previously unconscious facets of the Self (Or rather acting from the perspective of the Higher Self consciously through the various faculties available), the activities of the Ego lessen, eventually dissolving (Takes a backseat perhaps as more decisions are made using higher faculties (E.g. Intuition)) as the veil between conscious/unconscious is removed.
What makes you think the activities of the ego lessen? They are but transformed as particular distortions are not needed. It just so happens that there are certain points in 3D evolution where we begin to have insight on these dynamics. One point is the begining of time/space awareness where we may redefine our relationships with ourselves - seeing the prior behaviors of identification. The focal point yet remains, informed by new awareness, as the work continues.
But the intuition is not a higher faculty, it's just the interface to the unconscious mind via perception from the standpoint of experience. Since it's always perception rather than evaluation, no decisions can be made using it directly. In fact, it is impossible to form new experience using just the intuition, as the intuition merely suggests notional possibilities and informs us where something is headed and from where it came.
(12-22-2013, 07:20 PM)bosphorus Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2013, 07:16 PM)Poet Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2013, 07:08 PM)bosphorus Wrote: [ -> ]ego is already integrated into your personality. just accept, embrace and love it
What is then the difference between ego and personality? Do we have something like a true self or does personality/ego just refer to the rationalisations/the picture we make of ourselves?
ego is WHO do you think you are, whereas personality is WHO you are. each is mixed into another
Personality, here in 3D, is really what we've made of our conscious awareness from the standpoint of provided circumstances. It's really what has been allowed at this point, under these conditions. There is still the "soul" or current development of self which this incarnation is but a tiny aspect. And more inclusive still is the higher self.