(01-07-2014, 01:26 AM)Adonai One Wrote: [ -> ]The Archetypes are the most effective training aid towards spiritual development. Ra gives the greatest foundation towards their study. The power in these teachings is underestimated greatly.
yes, Adonai, look we have the same Favourite Topic. Absolutely favourite.
and yet, despite all the threads that JustLikeYou has started, all the threads I started, and all the threads you start, and despite the Archetypes taking up the bulk of Volume 4 (which equates to the last 20-25 sessions, or almost a quarter of the material), the response from most people, who are genuinely interested in Ra and learning, is that they remain tepid and less than enthusiastic. Why do you think that is?
is it because they are somehow opaque and lacking in intelligence? surely not? I would give more credit than that to my fellow brother and sister seekers.
is it because they somehow lack dedication and resolve to learn this pattern of 21 nodes, and delve deeply as we have? surely not. They have just as much time and will as we do, surely.
then why does it appeal to a handful of individuals (maybe throw Tanner into that mix), and out of the 100's of members that have passed through in the last 3 years, it has not caught their attention or interest?
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why do you think that is?
I have thought about this question myself, and the only reason I can come up with is that it is a tool that we (that is you, me, and a few others) somehow instintively resonate with (resonate in the sense of - I like that flavor of icecream and prefer it), and it is a tool that have leaned on and can extract maximum efficiency out of. And indeed, the archetypal level of mind is deep, and it is core to this Logos, and it is relatively pure in its streams and flows. It is something well worth tapping into.
and yet there are many other tools for seeking, which can lead to balancing and harmonization of self. There are another handful of individuals here who lean heavily on the tools of psychology, and, in my humble estimation, have been able to use it as just an effective as a scalpel and delineator as the archetypes. They are able to reverse projections at will, and locate the inner imbalance very quickly.
others rely on feeling and energy to identify blockages, and while not as exacting as the psychological tools above, sometimes the quick correction of a belief pattern associated with an energy centre is all that is needed to redress a problem. And that works for them.
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so while you and I Adonai may continue to extoll the virtues of the archetypes, and explore them in the leisure of our own rooms, what is witnessed there is a very much like a private viewing of the Logos; it can't really be translated into language, the concepts are personal experiences, and the insights that come from it cannot be inlaid into the awareness of others without the preceding preparatory work that made the possibility of attaining that insight in the first place.
in short, as I've seen you hint and try to inspire and leave breadcrumbs, it is not something that can be shared, and therefore not something that can directly be taught. The patterns are there, already outlined by Ra, to the extent that Don's questions permitted an answer, and it is a tool ready to be learnt if one has he desire. If the desire is absent, it is like the most gleaming diamond sitting under your bed; if there is no desire to seek, it will not be found.
what I have come to appreciate is that if these 'insights' cannot be shared or taught, then it is not able to be pressed into service for others. True, it is that we can apply the self-transformations that the archetypes yield to ourselves, to become a more pure and brighter being and channel. We can use it to refine and harness ourselves. So it hones or tunes the instrument for service. But the archetypes, as we experience them, cannot be directly transmitted to the other, so in that respects, it is not a direct avenue for service. The archetypes are the training centre for the mind for those that wish it.
so yes, we can point and point and we can start thread after thread, but people are just not interested. Its not their method of seeking, and it is absolutely not the only way to attain clarity or purpose of being.
there are a diversity of ways to seek.
and one can become ok with that.
If someone wants them, the archetypes are there and waiting. There is no rush at all
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