(01-17-2009, 05:33 AM)artichoke Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe someone will find this site but none of the negative ones, because their incarnational plan calls for that.
Mine calls for eclecticism, if things are going at all according to plan!
Hi artichoke!
I definitely understand what you're saying, and I too have had an eclectic path. My experiences with less-than-pure info have helped me learn, so I certainly don't regret them!
For what it's worth, I don't think Steve is saying that those experiences aren't valuable, and I don't think he's trying to tell anyone that they can't or shouldn't read that stuff. He's just trying to honor the guidelines of the forum, which, from what I understand, were part of Carla's vision in creating this forum.
I don't want to speak for Carla of course, but my impression from her is that she envisioned this forum as a narrow-beam gathering place for those seeking to learn/teach the LOO, and, even though many of us have obviously learned from a great many other sources, if we get too much into that other stuff here on the forum, it may dilute the purpose of this forum. Especially since there are literally hundreds (thousands?) of other websites/forums out there catering to mixed-polarity messages, there isn't really a need to add 1 more mixed-polarity forum...but there IS a need to have a forum that is as pure in its polarity as we can possibly make it.
I don't think it's so much about worrying that some newbie might stumble upon a mixed-polarity message (since that person will find it one way or another if it's appropriate for him/her), as it is about having a place for Wanderers/LOO adherents to gather, exchange ideas related to the LOO, teach/learn, and recharge from the wild world out there...it's tough going sometimes, and we all need to recharge a bit sometimes...this could be a safe haven for us to get back on track, get inspired, and hone the Light we wish to shine into the world. We can better do that if we have at least 1 place to go to, that can help keep us focused.
That's just my take on it!
(01-17-2009, 05:33 AM)artichoke Wrote: [ -> ]I would suggest one other thing, in comparing our style here with what we might read from Ra or Q'uo. I'm getting this idea from the book "Bringers of the Dawn" but I suspect I've also seen it elsewhere. Entities from outside this world do not have the right to infringe on our free will here. But I don't think we are supposed to be as conservative. We can go all-out to do as much as we can. Here "in the soup", we have the right to bring all our knowledge, biases, etc. to bear in our service to others, or for that matter our service to ourselves. In other words, Q'uo might not be able to say direct uncomplimentary things about Zetatalk, but we can. And if one of them were to incarnate here, that person could too.
This is a good point and one that is, imo, worthy of discussion. I have often wondered whether to follow Q'uo's guidelines of providing help only to the call. But I wasn't sure if we were expected to have such a high standard of non-interference as entities currently not incarnate in the Earth plane. Since we are here in this illusion, it's a bit more difficult to accurately discern the call of an other-self, especially since people's words and actions aren't always congruent with their true desires. In addition, there is the question of: Since we
did come here to try to help increase the Harvest, just how much 'speaking up' is appropriate? Obviously, we all know to smile at the cashier at the grocery store and just help raise the vibration with love and joy, but many of us feel driven by various causes (environmental, political, charitable, whatever) and Ra has indicated that many Wanderers have indeed taken on roles in which they did important work that affected the lives of many. We don't have to be famous of course, but just willing to speak up or take action on something that we feel is important...whatever that may be...and when we do that, are we abiding by the standards set by Q'uo? And
should we abide by those standards?
I don't know the answer to this and am interested in others' viewpoints. If someone remembers Q'uo already addressing this, please let us know! I do remember a session in which Q'uo said something to the effect of, if we feel very compelled to get involved in something, then we probably have an important contribution to make in that area. But I don't recall Q'uo specifically addressing the question of only offering help when there is a call...or how to discern exactly whether there is a call. It seems to me that the entire planet is sort of calling out, so it's a little harder to intuit individual calls when we're in the midst of it.
I was speaking in generalities.