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Hello, my names Eduardo. My story started three years ago. I was in 8th grade(yea I know I'm not old). I assume you have read the Law of One and in the book hey mention the Orion. It mentions how they serve themselves and that all they do is through dominating others. I was headed down that road. Although I was 14 I had gone through enough. Life was hard, my dad had a form of cancer, and my mom had to support the family on her own. Things were never really bad considering she had to take care of us, but inside me a hate grew. I always wondered why bad hints happened to those who hurt no one, such as my father and mother, while other wasted their life away. I'd see kids my age doing drugs having sex, lying, stealing. Cheating and nothing bad ever happened to them. My hate grew intensely I didn't understand why life worked that way. I got into satanism and not that little kid rebel crap. It was never anything like" oh it's so cool not to believe in god", it was a spiritual thing. The satanism I was getting into dealt with all that is mentioned in the Ra material. People talked of healing and having spiritual powers. It amazed me, they spoke of controlling those you hated mentally and destroying them spiritually and that always made me "happy". Well I went down that path for a while then I hit rock bottom. At the moment I didn't realize it because I was blinded by my hate but I was miserable. I was angry all the time, hate was literally all I felt my mother worried about me and seemed help. I ended up going to therapy. I hated he idea of it, I didn't think I needed help I though I was fine. The guys name was Douglas when he first met me we talked of power, of the feeling it brought me. At one point I mentioned the satanism and how I knew of all the spiritual powers those people had. I thought he'd think I was crazy but that's when he spoke of light and love. He started telling me of the densities and the way people reached the fourth. He always said you could go by way of servicing yourself or servicing others. I was obviously choosing self and that was a mistake. For a while we talked on this subject(matter of months) my anger grew smaller with time then he finally told me of the book. By this time I wasn't really mad I was just full of questions. I read the book and it helped a lot. It all made sense I realized light and love were the way things really needed to be. Douglas since I met him always said I had an old soul I wasn't sure what it meant but now I have a better grasp of what me meant. I'm proud to say that all I do now(well most) is to help others, because after the anger and hate left I was left with this empty void that I had no idea what to do with. I had really always been good with people(of my choosing I always avoided those who I hated). I was the funny guy all the time(even when I was mad it was strange because around people my mood always lightened) so I noticed that when I made people happy or smile or laugh it helped. It was a great feeling knowing you could help other so now I do. I'm not saying everything's perfect I love making others feel special but I feel lonely really that's the one thing that has never changed. I feel like I'm lost here, I don't want to say I'm from the fourth density because the truth is I don't know but life's good. It's good to love its good to live. That's it thanks for reading goodbye.

Wow brother that's awesome to find such a spiritual teacher as that. Must have been the opportune time regardless of your age. I welcome you to our little classroom amongst the greatest classroom that is this incarnation. Feel free to ask any questions that come to mind.

Welcome Eduardo and thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad you found peace in your heart.

(04-18-2014, 08:01 PM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]Hello, my names Eduardo. My story started three years ago. I was in 8th grade(yea I know I'm not old).

Hi SpiritMolecule!

you now have the proud title of being the youngest Bring4th Member.

Fang, Adonai, and Conifer 16 (who is way older than 16 lol), are all so jealous right now.

welcomes!!

(04-18-2014, 08:01 PM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]I was the funny guy all the time(even when I was mad it was strange because around people my mood always lightened) so I noticed that when I made people happy or smile or laugh it helped. It was a great feeling knowing you could help other so now I do.

we all have our special ways of serving, and humor and being a social entity is quite often under-rated in terms of how we can contribute.

(04-18-2014, 08:01 PM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]but I feel lonely really that's the one thing that has never changed. I feel like I'm lost here, I don't want to say I'm from the fourth density because the truth is I don't know but life's good. It's good to love its good to live. That's it thanks for reading goodbye.

well, even though Wanderers 'lose' their concrete memories of former lives (like all individuals who incarnate in 3d), there is some recall at some level of being 'different'. Ra talks about Wanderers having differing levels of penetrating this 'memory block', but at heart, there is an inner knowing that one is not exactly like the majority of people with which one is surrounded by. The Wanderer stats in 1984 graded out to be 1/100 roughly, and so a certain loneliness or difference factor is going to express itself.

the hopeful factor in my mind is that I don't think Wanderers choose a lifeplan in which they would be totally isolated from other Wanderers; this being less of a factor today with the internet and shared understandings of this philosophy, but even in the past, the 'strangers in a strange land' would have made agreements as to mutual friendships and relationships to smooth their journey and service here in this density. Ra gives the case of two Wanderers who incarnated on Venus (the sole 2 out of that entire population), and yet they managed to find each other and do their work. Unfortunately, that work ended up going in a different direction than originally planned (to put it mildly), but at least they were in the same boat together, if that can be seen as any consolation.

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anyway, thanks for sharing your story Eduardo. At age 17/18 I was still deciding whether Spawn was better as a comic than the Transformers; and my mind was far away from metaphysics and understanding the 'self' and my life mission. It seems as though you've had quite the journey already.

ahh, you kids these days. By the time you get to 25/26 you'll all be boddhisattvas and perfectly aligned.

good travels friend.

Plenum

Hey Eduardo!

I really understand how you felt not so long ago, as I went through a turbulent childhood myself. Looking back now I smile (I am 37 yrs) and understand with clarity the reasons for it all. Its ironic to think that when I stopped trying to find answers for why things were like they were and focused on what I enjoyed, the meanings became clear further down the road in my life. Big hugs buddy and welcome to the community!

Thank you all, and plenum so I'm the youngest here? That's really weird but I guess that's what Douglas meant by old soul. I have a couple questions I've been wondering. I have all five books I've only read through the first(slow reader) I see it says there are 106 sessions what happens after that? Is Ra still communicating? It also mentions the end of the 75,000 year cycle is approximately 30 from 1981 which was 2011 so is the change going to be sudden or will it be progressive? Again thank you all I love the idea of talking to a community who know and understand this ideal.

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Oh and another thing haha you said you said when you were 17/18 you had well what people that age have thoughts about, well I don't want to seem like I don't have normal problems. I am 16 after all I just like to grasp the idea of me. Like before I'd tell myself that I was hateful and vicious because I thought it was cool but in reality I'm caring and loving I love to see others prosper. So yea I don't want to make it seem like I'm above and all because I'm still a kid. Thank you.

(04-19-2014, 07:04 PM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]I have all five books I've only read through the first(slow reader) I see it says there are 106 sessions what happens after that? Is Ra still communicating?

Hi Eduardo,

yes, that communications came to an unfortunate end in 1984, and the 106 sessions are all the Ra material available. One of the group members - Don, the Questioner - received some catalyst that he wasn't able to fully integrate, and a process of mental difficulty set in. After a lengthy period of refusing to eat food, the health authorities were called in, and it was at that point that Don took his life.

The Ra communication ended there; as the three group members were integral to establishing (and maintaining) a very tuned bandwidth to 6d. After than point, Carla returned to doing conscious channeling (the form that she was doing before the Ra contact), and from about 1987/88 onwards, their main Confederation Contact was a construct known as Q'uo; which was a group construct which has some input from Ra actually. You can find the Q'uo transcripts here, mixed in with all the transcripts that LL/Research has undertaken: http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/tr..._year.aspx

(04-19-2014, 07:04 PM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]Oh and another thing haha you said you said when you were 17/18 you had well what people that age have thoughts about, well I don't want to seem like I don't have normal problems. I am 16 after all I just like to grasp the idea of me. Like before I'd tell myself that I was hateful and vicious because I thought it was cool but in reality I'm caring and loving I love to see others prosper. So yea I don't want to make it seem like I'm above and all because I'm still a kid. Thank you.

yeah, I was just kidding around a bit there I know that everyone has to pass through various stages of maturity/experience, and there is 'stuff' that everyone has to experience. But it's definitely the case that the internet (which only became publicly available after I finished high school), can really make a big difference in accelerating progress, by connecting you with people seeking the same things around the globe. It can have the effect of concentrating specialised understandings and then sharing this with one's peers.

but yeah, in truth, we are all 'kids' here I'm not sure if you've come across this part in the books yet, but the 'normal' life cycle in 3d for a human is supposed to be 700 years (and maybe a bit more). It's just that this planet (or rather it's peoples) has squandered many, many opportunities to seek unity, and so the life spans were shortened as a result of not incorporating the available catalyst. So yeah, no matter if you're 16, and others are in their 30's, compared to a lifespan of 700, it's nothing but kids in the playground here

(04-19-2014, 07:04 PM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]It also mentions the end of the 75,000 year cycle is approximately 30 from 1981 which was 2011 so is the change going to be sudden or will it be progressive?

that's a bigger question than I could fully here answer, but there's a subforum dedicated to questions regards the Harvest: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=4

suffice to say, that 2011, and then 2012, and then 2013 all came and went, and we're still here typing on good-old fashioned 3d keyboards (and I really wanted a 4d computer lol), and so the 'sudden harvest' window seems to have passed.

although it hasn't come up recently, the progressive harvest interpretation is that more and more dual activated individuals will be born from this point oinwards (dual activated in having a 3d body and a 4d body active) and that its these people that will marry, have kids, and through genetic evolution (quite rapid in some cases! maybe 2 or 3 generations), the fully 'active' 4d genetic body will be the vehicle of experience on the 'new earth'.

That's sad to hear about Don, do they know what the catalyst was? And haha id like a 4d computer too. I have a question that I've thought about a lot recently, as time has come I thank all those bad things that once happened because they all lead to me being me now. Im glad to say I feel sad and mad sometimes because it makes feeling good so much better, Ra answers all questions very plainly, almost in a robotic way. I know love and light is felt but does he too feel other emotions? because feeling love is great but feeling it all the time without those other emotions well I'd feel robotic I don't mean to offend I just question a lot you know and that's made me wonder lately. Thanks for answering my questions

Ra says the higher self has subtlety of emotion. Being that the higher self is 6D also, I imagine they feel and understand emotion. They certainly can understand us here in 3D.

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Thank you all, and plenum so I'm the youngest here? That's really weird but I guess that's what Douglas meant by old soul. I have a couple questions I've been wondering. I have all five books I've only read through the first(slow reader)
Hi Buddy.

Yes I too am a slow reader and like a great film full of mystery and potential meanings it would be a dis-service to you I feel if details of the remaining 4 books were revealed here. I read all 5 books last year and am spending this year studying them. I have all ready discovered big insights in book 1 that I missed the first time around and would recommend this If I was asked by any seeker. Mainly because we integrate into our consciousness the information that is relevant to us at that time. Again if I was asked I would recommend not dwelling on any part of the Ra Material that fails to make sense at that moment. I have wasted energy and caused myself frustration resulting from my stubborn biases of not leaving a page until I can comprehend all that is on it!

Big hugs.

Thanks nio

(04-20-2014, 12:27 AM)Spiritmolecule Wrote: [ -> ]That's sad to hear about Don, do they know what the catalyst was? And haha id like a 4d computer too. I have a question that I've thought about a lot recently, as time has come I thank all those bad things that once happened because they all lead to me being me now. Im glad to say I feel sad and mad sometimes because it makes feeling good so much better, Ra answers all questions very plainly, almost in a robotic way. I know love and light is felt but does he too feel other emotions? because feeling love is great but feeling it all the time without those other emotions well I'd feel robotic I don't mean to offend I just question a lot you know and that's made me wonder lately. Thanks for answering my questions

yeah, it would be hard to pinpoint the exact nature of what happened to Don, but some of the final sessions had some inquiries into his physical health, etc etc. Ra also mentioned a process of 'initiation', which I take to mean the mind being introduced to areas of itself which had not previously been seen; and such a process is not always smoothly integrated.

regards Ra, emotionality, and expression, yes, it's a common thing that people pick up on. In fact, it might be one of the defining characteristics of this communication: the precision, the exactness, the placement of words and concepts with deliberation. One of my dear friends on these forums once described the Ra communication as 'crystallization of light in verbal form' or words to that effect. And indeed, this crystallized light that was made available to us through the channeling group has the power to awaken (or offer the opportunity to re-remember) deeply felt things. In that way it is like a beacon drawing us to a more complete or whole viewpoint of the Illusion in which we find ourselves.

as for how Ra experiences their reality, the most I can say is that Ra is of 6th Density, as is the so-called Higher Self (or magical personality).

this is how Ra describes the Higher Self, and some of it's qualities. The underlined part refers to the breadth and range of emotionality:

Quote:75.32 Questioner: The three aspects of the magical personality are stated to be power, love, and wisdom. Is this correct and are these the only primary aspects of the magical personality?

Ra: I am Ra. The three aspects of the magical personality, power, love, and wisdom, are so called in order that attention be paid to each aspect in developing the basic tool of the adept; that is, its self.

It is by no means a personality of three aspects.

It is a being of unity, being of sixth density and equivalent to what you call your higher self and, at the same time, is a personality enormously rich in variety of experience and subtlety of emotion.

The three aspects are given that the neophyte not abuse the tools of its trade but rather approach those tools balanced in the center of love and wisdom and thus seeking power in order to serve.

From what I understand, the higher self is obtained in mid sixth-density, and that sixth-density is 75 million years long, and Ra has 2 million years left to go till 7th. So Ra has probably obtained higher self status.