(04-08-2018, 06:26 AM)buket Wrote:

(04-08-2018, 06:08 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: 1.7 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

How about each of us being the unique portion of the Creator?

Quote:Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

(04-09-2018, 08:05 AM)buket Wrote: Are portions of our higher self body mind spirit complexes or only spirits?

Quote:37.6 Questioner: In that case, we’ll go ahead with the questions we have here continuing the last session. You said that each third-density entity has an higher self in the sixth density which is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex of the entity as needed. Does this higher self also evolve in growth through the densities beginning with the first density, and does each higher self have a corresponding higher self advanced in densities beyond it?

Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank or memory of experienced thoughts and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.

(04-08-2018, 10:54 AM)Elros Wrote:

(04-08-2018, 06:26 AM)buket Wrote:

(04-08-2018, 06:08 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: 1.7 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

How about each of us being the unique portion of the Creator?

Each portion is the whole focused :

Quote:Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

As such, there is no portion that is separate from another portion, the separation lies in the focus of One and not its beingness itself so much.

(04-11-2018, 07:19 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: One thing that makes me wonder Elros.

Is Creator above Intelligent Infinity, or below it? Or are they the same thing?

(04-11-2018, 08:32 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So God, that I've been tuning into and feeling, is Logos as well?

(04-11-2018, 08:32 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I find this all fascinating.

(04-11-2018, 08:32 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Elros, do you mainly use intuition to figure these things out, or do you have direct experience?
Have you had a transcendent experience such as enlightenment or something?

(04-11-2018, 10:28 PM)Elros Wrote:

(04-11-2018, 08:32 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So God, that I've been tuning into and feeling, is Logos as well?

From your posts I would think so.

(04-11-2018, 08:32 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I find this all fascinating.

Isn't it. The mystery of our being.

(04-11-2018, 08:32 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Elros, do you mainly use intuition to figure these things out, or do you have direct experience?
Have you had a transcendent experience such as enlightenment or something?

A bit of both I guess. I've had many kinds of experiences, many of which I've shared here before.

(04-23-2018, 05:40 AM)buket Wrote: What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

(04-08-2018, 06:26 AM)buket Wrote:

(04-08-2018, 06:08 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: 1.7 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

How about each of us being the unique portion of the Creator?

(04-23-2018, 11:45 AM)Elros Wrote:

(04-23-2018, 05:40 AM)buket Wrote: What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

I would think they refer to the lower-self portion of the higher-self, what incarnates across the densities.

The higher-self itself remains parallel an awareness to it.

(04-29-2018, 06:59 AM)buket Wrote:

(04-23-2018, 11:45 AM)Elros Wrote:

(04-23-2018, 05:40 AM)buket Wrote: What is the 'yourself' that Quo talks about? Portions of the higherself?

I would think they refer to the lower-self portion of the higher-self, what incarnates across the densities.

The higher-self itself remains parallel an awareness to it.

Are there portions of the higher self?

(04-29-2018, 09:50 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Well, given that souls are multidimensional and time/space and space/time are illusions, probably yes. In fact I think I may have really ruined a good friendship with someone who may be myself in a female body...

More on THAT when I have the time to finally write my Wanderer Story...

Quote:17.13 Questioner: When I am communicating with you as Ra, are you at times [an] individualized entity or am I speaking to the entire complex?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak with Ra. There is no separation. You would call it a social memory complex thus indicating many-ness. To our understanding, you are speaking to an individualized portion of consciousness.

Quote:17.14 Questioner: Do I always speak to the same individualized portion of consciousness in each of the sessions?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak to the same entity through a channel or instrument. This instrument is at times lower in vital energy. This will sometimes hamper our proceedings. However, this instrument has a great deal of faithfulness to the task and gives whatever it has to this task. Therefore, we may continue even when energy is low. This is why we usually speak to the ending of the session due to our estimation of the instrument’s levels of vital energy.

(05-06-2018, 06:40 AM)Sprout Wrote:

Quote:17.13 Questioner: When I am communicating with you as Ra, are you at times [an] individualized entity or am I speaking to the entire complex?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak with Ra. There is no separation. You would call it a social memory complex thus indicating many-ness. To our understanding, you are speaking to an individualized portion of consciousness.

Quote:17.14 Questioner: Do I always speak to the same individualized portion of consciousness in each of the sessions?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak to the same entity through a channel or instrument. This instrument is at times lower in vital energy. This will sometimes hamper our proceedings. However, this instrument has a great deal of faithfulness to the task and gives whatever it has to this task. Therefore, we may continue even when energy is low. This is why we usually speak to the ending of the session due to our estimation of the instrument’s levels of vital energy.

In my opinion, if you and your brothers/sisters wander to a planet from the same social memory complex, it would be self explanatory to assume relations/similarities when meeting your kin. But again, a mind/body/spirit is a entity of it's own portion of the Creator, with it's own path, evolution, and seeking. The thought/idea that a mind/body/spirit complex and another mind/body/spirit complex is the same entity feels manipulative and lacking in free will(especially in a veiled third density experience). Eventually everything will coalesce into one, but that is not yet, and even those who brought us the Law of One do not know and seek reunification with the Creator.  

(05-16-2018, 01:39 PM)Sprout Wrote: OR, you could live your life, and let them live theirs, you know. Just a thought.

(05-25-2018, 04:52 AM)buket Wrote: In the case of parallel incarnations (yourself in another personality) is the spirit common? Since mind and body are different in two people, if they are the same self, is the common thing in both of them is spirit?

(04-05-2018, 04:22 AM)buket Wrote: In one of Q'uo sessions someone asked if we can meet ourselves in another personality in this life. Q'uo answered it is possible. Your portions can have simultaneous incarnations in this life from different time rivers moving from one point to another.
I wonder what portion of yourself means here. And also what form is us that incarnates simultaneously in? Spirit form?

(05-27-2018, 10:10 AM)buket Wrote: Is this case twin flames?

(05-27-2018, 11:21 AM)Glow Wrote:

(05-27-2018, 10:10 AM)buket Wrote: Is this case twin flames?

Twin flame theology/ideology seems to be a tool of distraction for those nearly awake. I have been told rather clearly the theology surrounding the tf cult is not accurate and I think Q’uo says the same thing.

I don’t subscribe to the tf stuff, seems like it was put out as negative STS. propaganda promoting expectations, control and possession/ownership more than love but I can’t say if the name is where it originally came from or not.

I’d just avoid it.