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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-07-2018
(09-07-2018, 03:46 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote:(09-07-2018, 02:13 AM)Agua Wrote: Try to relax a little bit, Phoenix!
I really dont believe you are a troll.
You are caught up in a lot of fear and trying to make sense of what you feel but do not understand!
And surely this is not among the craziest things posted here
We all have those times...
As I wrote above, we often access "micro-portions" of old emotions. Its not enough to realize and understand where its coming from and what its all about, but enough to feel it significantly.
The mind then tries to interpret this into an acceptable form.
That happens ALL the time, we ALL do this all the time, we just dont realize it.
Why the sudden change of tone? Are you as flaccid as a politician? Did your point have no merit? I'm confused.
I don't understand what you mean by "Change in tone" Gentle?
JJ is the one who said I was a troll. To me, it seems Agua was just continuing what said earlier in either this thread or another. If you are confusing Agua for JJ, I thank you for defending me.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-07-2018
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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-07-2018
Agua, thank you for the analogy.
I think I see what you're saying here, Agua. You're saying it's not the hypothetical scenario itself scaring me that's at the core of the issue, but unresolved emotional trauma, possibly from a past life.
And you're saying it's all a matter of learning to heal that trauma, not a matter of controlling hypothetical outcomes, of which there are literally infinite possibilities one could imagine and this is just the one I latched onto cause Ra mentioned it and I found the thought scary.
You say though that my real fear is of the fear itself and the fear itself is the issue, stemming from very different experiences already established, correct?
So your advice is to work on releasing the fear and healing the trauma to resolve the issue I'm having then?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-07-2018
(09-07-2018, 04:44 AM)Agua Wrote:(09-07-2018, 04:00 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Let me summarize:
Limited, closing in, serious threat, upside down, tighter and tighter, you are being pushed, fear of death, stress and struggle, life... about to end, die, end of ... life, fear of death, stress and struggle, the greatest pain, greatest pain and the biggest fear by 10,000, gates to hell, demons fighting you, scenes of torture, trauma from other lifetimes, all alone in hell, a paragraph of sudden typos forcing a deeper hypnotic state, I don't want the baby, perfect point for psychic attack,
haha, you said borth.
I'm not going to validate the rest. If 90-100% fear-mongering isn't enough to convince you, perhaps you could learn to more artfully apply the art of fart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUaEtf1s23w
Hey, GentleReckoning,
what I was trying to describe, as an example, is birth trauma and how it shapes later life.
The typos were not intended. Many come from typing on a tablet with my big fingers, others are necause english is not my first language.
I didnt really understand what you were trying to say, could you please clarify?
Yeah I didn't understand his second post, but I believe Gentle may have seen your avatar and mistook it for JJ's since you guys both use that avatar. So maybe to Gentle, it looked like you were jumping from "You're a troll" to "I don't believe you're a troll. We all have irrational fears sometimes" and viewed it as disingenuous.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-07-2018
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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Infinite Unity - 09-07-2018
(09-07-2018, 04:43 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-07-2018, 03:46 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote:(09-07-2018, 02:13 AM)Agua Wrote: Try to relax a little bit, Phoenix!
I really dont believe you are a troll.
You are caught up in a lot of fear and trying to make sense of what you feel but do not understand!
And surely this is not among the craziest things posted here
We all have those times...
As I wrote above, we often access "micro-portions" of old emotions. Its not enough to realize and understand where its coming from and what its all about, but enough to feel it significantly.
The mind then tries to interpret this into an acceptable form.
That happens ALL the time, we ALL do this all the time, we just dont realize it.
Why the sudden change of tone? Are you as flaccid as a politician? Did your point have no merit? I'm confused.
I don't understand what you mean by "Change in tone" Gentle?
JJ is the one who said I was a troll. To me, it seems Agua was just continuing what said earlier in either this thread or another. If you are confusing Agua for JJ, I thank you for defending me.
To the OP-
There is needed learning/teaching to progress further.
Fear is actively used to slow the pace of an instrument trying to grow to fast. The spiritual work is a long draw. Enjoy the path endlessly.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-07-2018
(09-07-2018, 09:54 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: To the OP-
There is needed learning/teaching to progress further.
Fear is actively used to slow the pace of an instrument trying to grow to fast. The spiritual work is a long draw. Enjoy the path endlessly.
I figured asking you guys for help WAS learn/teaching. Where else to do it?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-07-2018
(09-07-2018, 12:06 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-07-2018, 09:54 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: To the OP-
There is needed learning/teaching to progress further.
Fear is actively used to slow the pace of an instrument trying to grow to fast. The spiritual work is a long draw. Enjoy the path endlessly.
I figured asking you guys for help WAS learn/teaching. Where else to do it?
There's lots and lots of material available in the L/L Research website, if you've read through the Law of One, though I find it always to teach me new things. There is indeed no end to ourselves.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-07-2018
So I booked a healing session over the internet with a shamanic healer for today, and as it turns out, I had a s*** ton of negative implants in me, ALL my chakras were blocked, and my healer said I'm a lightworker and am going to keep getting attacked like this, so I should probably learn healing arts and become a healer. She recommended a pendulum to start with. I told her about the weed and subs. She said the weed is fine but the subs need to stop, because at this point in my development, I've ascended to a high enough level where it would just become too much and the name of the game at this point is grounding. An learning healing arts so I can transmute stuff. She recommends starting with a pendulum, because she finds those VERY useful.
She said there's 4 ways to perceive energy: Seeing, feeling, hearing and knowing. After talking about it, she determined I'm a "knower"
She said I was in "the 5th" and that the implants were to stop me from ascending to "the 6th" where I am now.
The implants were primarily in my spine, neck and head. This is especially practical for preventing the rising of kundalini energy.
My kundalini had been in my solar plexus, which like all other chakras, was blocked (explaining my chronic nausea)
Now my kundalini is in my heart chakra.
I feel WAYY better now.
There were some other amazing things which happened before that, but so much happened I decided not to go into detail.
I would SERIOUSLY like to than EVERYBODY who helped me out yesterday! THANK YOU. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU.
And Agua, you ESPECIALLY had some really useful advice that lead to some amazing experiences and I thank you for that!
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - flofrog - 09-07-2018
EP, I love the idea of pendulum, I have an old one, I mostly use it for other persons, but he is like an old friend ! And you are so right about Agua, he is lovely !!
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Minyatur - 09-07-2018
Sounds to me like you could do some work on your faith in the Universe. You could meditate on achieving a state of total surrender to fate and your unconscious. If this is hard, then work through the rising blockages that obscure your ability to gaze upon the truer nature of the moment and what it contains.
If you really identify as a sixth density wanderer, then it shouldn't be too hard to focus a little of faith into piercing the forgetting to remember Unity. Unity does not erase nor deny fear, but awereness of it does shed some light on its paradoxes, limits as an intelligent energy and effects (how a future stuck in fear is dark in contrast to the radiance of being free of fear across time). Fear derives from a limit of a view point and it is the view point that comes to change. No fear needs so much to be made eternal outside that there are many ways that we can come to the same fears, yet fear will forever be something we let go of along our paths, lest we will to not see ourselves be what we can be beyond the confines of fear.
You may address your fears in awareness that they are the product of confusion (a confusion that you have desired to realize yourself through). The parts of you that are frozen in fear are portions of yourself that already are in a negative time/space, it is in your power to free them.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-08-2018
(09-07-2018, 08:44 PM)Elros Wrote: Sounds to me like you could do some work on your faith in the Universe. You could meditate on achieving a state of total surrender to fate and your unconscious. If this is hard, then work through the rising blockages that obscure your ability to gaze upon the truer nature of the moment and what it contains.
If you really identify as a sixth density wanderer, then it shouldn't be too hard to focus a little of faith into piercing the forgetting to remember Unity. Unity does not erase nor deny fear, but awereness of it does shed some light on its paradoxes, limits as an intelligent energy and effects (how a future stuck in fear is dark in contrast to the radiance of being free of fear across time). Fear derives from a limit of a view point and it is the view point that comes to change. No fear needs so much to be made eternal outside that there are many ways that we can come to the same fears, yet fear will forever be something we let go of along our paths, lest we will to not see ourselves be what we can be beyond the confines of fear.
You may address your fears in awareness that they are the product of confusion (a confusion that you have desired to realize yourself through). The parts of you that are frozen in fear are portions of yourself that already are in a negative time/space, it is in your power to free them.
Thank you for this wisdom, Elros.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-08-2018
The fears are back. Could be more implants in me. Dunno. Gonna start an implant removal thread.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-08-2018
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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-08-2018
(09-08-2018, 03:10 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: The fears are back. Could be more implants in me. Dunno. Gonna start an implant removal thread.
What's an implant?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-08-2018
(09-08-2018, 03:47 AM)blossom Wrote:(09-08-2018, 03:10 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: The fears are back. Could be more implants in me. Dunno. Gonna start an implant removal thread.
What's an implant?
An etheric implant. You know, the negative kind. I was chuck full of them yesterday before my healing.
These are due to psychic attack. Lightworkers get hit HARD with them. Negatives put etheric implants, parasites, devices of limitation, etc. in order to prevent or at least impede us from doing proper lightwork.
Anyway, guys, I had a dream just a few moments ago...
In it, my dad was driving the car and accidentally crashed into a university shuttle (basically a bus for the university in my area) in front of us. HJe freaks out and tries to back away from the thing and ends up doing it too fast and frantically and bashes into a truck. Then the police come and, annoyed, help him take the car off the road.
What does this mean? IS it attache to my current fear situation?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Infinite Unity - 09-08-2018
(09-07-2018, 12:06 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-07-2018, 09:54 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: To the OP-
There is needed learning/teaching to progress further.
Fear is actively used to slow the pace of an instrument trying to grow to fast. The spiritual work is a long draw. Enjoy the path endlessly.
I figured asking you guys for help WAS learn/teaching. Where else to do it?
Living/experience
I am saying you are trying to grow to fast. I am not saying you are incorrect or unworthy. It's actually very common for seekers to do this. I myself am no exception.
What's more and interrelated, is that many seekers focus primarily on indigo ray, which in my opinion, is not a good configuration.
If I were to ask you were your locus meets?(kundalini) can you feel where your main blockage/blockages are?
Yes learn/teaching is available anywhere anytime. Reading and communicating on here does provide the potential for learn/teaching. However I meant that slowing down and allowing the integration and hopefully/possibly crystalization. So in essence Live and experience. Enjoy.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-08-2018
(09-08-2018, 10:40 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:(09-07-2018, 12:06 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-07-2018, 09:54 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: To the OP-
There is needed learning/teaching to progress further.
Fear is actively used to slow the pace of an instrument trying to grow to fast. The spiritual work is a long draw. Enjoy the path endlessly.
I figured asking you guys for help WAS learn/teaching. Where else to do it?
Living/experience
I am saying you are trying to grow to fast. I am not saying you are incorrect or unworthy. It's actually very common for seekers to do this. I myself am no exception.
What's more and interrelated, is that many seekers focus primarily on indigo ray, which in my opinion, is not a good configuration.
If I were to ask you were your locus meets?(kundalini) can you feel where your main blockage/blockages are?
Yes learn/teaching is available anywhere anytime. Reading and communicating on here does provide the potential for learn/teaching. However I meant that slowing down and allowing the integration and hopefully/possibly crystalization. So in essence Live and experience. Enjoy.
Thank you for the wisdom, Infinite Unity. I am learning this today, actually, and you're post reinforces the lesson. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Infinite Unity - 09-08-2018
(09-08-2018, 11:20 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-08-2018, 10:40 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote:(09-07-2018, 12:06 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-07-2018, 09:54 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: To the OP-
There is needed learning/teaching to progress further.
Fear is actively used to slow the pace of an instrument trying to grow to fast. The spiritual work is a long draw. Enjoy the path endlessly.
I figured asking you guys for help WAS learn/teaching. Where else to do it?
Living/experience
I am saying you are trying to grow to fast. I am not saying you are incorrect or unworthy. It's actually very common for seekers to do this. I myself am no exception.
What's more and interrelated, is that many seekers focus primarily on indigo ray, which in my opinion, is not a good configuration.
If I were to ask you were your locus meets?(kundalini) can you feel where your main blockage/blockages are?
Yes learn/teaching is available anywhere anytime. Reading and communicating on here does provide the potential for learn/teaching. However I meant that slowing down and allowing the integration and hopefully/possibly crystalization. So in essence Live and experience. Enjoy.
Thank you for the wisdom, Infinite Unity. I am learning this today, actually, and you're post reinforces the lesson. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU.
You are very welcome other self. Thank you for the opportunity to serve.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - flofrog - 09-09-2018
It’s funny EP, but from most posts I read from you, it seems to me you are pretty wise, and In fact pretty balanced with real questions and evident prpgress. So not at all the way you seem to see yourself
. Oh well... just keep going and enjoy as Infinite Unity said.. : D
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 01:40 AM)flofrog Wrote: It’s funny EP, but from most posts I read from you, it seems to me you are pretty wise, and In fact pretty balanced with real questions and evident prpgress. So not at all the way you seem to see yourself
Awww... THANK YOU flofrog! That's a REALLY nice and wonderful thing to say! Thank you!
I'm still dealing with rising fears. Just had a dream where for some reason, Lucifer was in a car outside in front of my driveway and I'm running into my house. I thought some sort of thought or whatever (Can't remember what it was) that had me worry I was in negative TS, so I created a new thought about transferring to a Universe of Light or something like that, and started worrying about THAT.
And then I woke up.
Can anybody tell me what's going on with these fear and that dream?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-09-2018
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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 07:46 AM)Agua Wrote:(09-09-2018, 06:53 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Can anybody tell me what's going on with these fear and that dream?
Whats the exact question?
Hasnt the question regarding the fear(s) been answered in this very thread in depth already by various members?
Indeed. So why am I still having some issues?
They're not as pronounced, but they still linger.
Maybe because I haven't gone out to China and DONE the thing yet? I dunno. What do you think the dream means? That's the quetion. Why do you think I had it?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 07:46 AM)Agua Wrote:(09-09-2018, 06:53 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Can anybody tell me what's going on with these fear and that dream?
Whats the exact question?
Hasnt the question regarding the fear(s) been answered in this very thread in depth already by various members?
Indeed. So why am I still having some issues?
They're not as pronounced, but they still linger.
Maybe because I haven't gone out to China and DONE the thing yet? I dunno. What do you think the dream means? That's the question. Why do you think I had it?
I'd like to point out that in a Facebook post earlier, somebody was criticizing men who leave a "good girl" behind in order for temporary sex and flirtation. I pointed out that many of these men are cynical and are focused on negatives. They don't believe in a "good girl" only a "bad b****" so to speak. They're bitter and they focus on negatives which reflect negativity within themselves, so they run away from that which reflects their own self back to them. I found myself wondering how this relates to my fears? You think the dream is connected to that? What about MYSELF am I running away from?
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Minyatur - 09-09-2018
I don't think you need to seek answers to fear-related questions so much.
Instead you should meditate on two things. The first is on calming your mind and attaining a state of inner silence, at will, as to not be slave to your own paranoia. The second is to meditate on exploring your fears from a lucid state that does not deny them, try to live mentally and emotionally what you fear. This will help to release the charges accumulated in the blockages and come to a state of acceptance and free inner flow when addressing the same thoughts/potentials.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 10:44 AM)Elros Wrote: I don't think you need to seek answers to fear-related questions so much.
Instead you should meditate on two things. The first is on calming your mind and attaining a state of inner silence, at will, as to not be slave to your own paranoia. The second is to meditate on exploring your fears from a lucid state that does not deny them, try to live mentally and emotionally what you fear. This will help to release the charges accumulated in the blockages and come to a state of acceptance and free inner flow when addressing the same thoughts/potentials.
Couldn't help but notice your post number is 55. Been seeing that a lot lately, along with 7 and 22. See some others sometimes, but particularly that. You're right to call it paranoia.
How do you recommend I do the second thing. how do I live them mentally and emotionally. By going out and doing stuff I'm afraid to do?
EDIT: Reading this part of the Law of One website -- https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Time%2FSpace I come to the realization I might not actually understand time/space like I thought I did, making these fears even more irrational. I really SHOULD complete my reading of the Law of One.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-09-2018
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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Infinite Unity - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 09:27 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-09-2018, 07:46 AM)Agua Wrote:(09-09-2018, 06:53 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Can anybody tell me what's going on with these fear and that dream?
Whats the exact question?
Hasnt the question regarding the fear(s) been answered in this very thread in depth already by various members?
Indeed. So why am I still having some issues?
They're not as pronounced, but they still linger.
Maybe because I haven't gone out to China and DONE the thing yet? I dunno. What do you think the dream means? That's the question. Why do you think I had it?
I'd like to point out that in a Facebook post earlier, somebody was criticizing men who leave a "good girl" behind in order for temporary sex and flirtation. I pointed out that many of these men are cynical and are focused on negatives. They don't believe in a "good girl" only a "bad b****" so to speak. They're bitter and they focus on negatives which reflect negativity within themselves, so they run away from that which reflects their own self back to them. I found myself wondering how this relates to my fears? You think the dream is connected to that? What about MYSELF am I running away from?
Very astute observation. As one travels the path of shadow, one feels more and more inclined to not see any virtue what so ever in other selves.
Seems like the dream is in line with the advice I gave above. Slow down as flofrog said you are wise and balanced to a large degree, yet jumping on the wagon with impulses is causing you to not be able to crystalize and kineticly charge/discharge that wisdom and balance into manifestation/reality. Form your temple, enjoy life, crystalize.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Minyatur - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 10:50 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: How do you recommend I do the second thing. how do I live them mentally and emotionally. By going out and doing stuff I'm afraid to do?
I believe just mental work is efficient. Picture yourself stepping into your fears and living them there and it should be enough to make the stuck energy rise.
In my experience distortion work is about finding the root of your distortions and it is mostly when there that we live a moment of great sincerity in the process of self-realization. So in the case of fear, it is likely that your true fear is nothing you've thought up about but remains related to all thoughts you've been projecting it into. By working mentally, you can become comfortable with the surface thought and see that there is deeper to it
In my experience blockages only require direct experience when you have proven yourself unable to release your inner struggle. This happens becsuse the charge is so great that being brought to direct experience by catalyst is your sole best option to release the energy and face the object of blockage. This is done in a way that you are offered an opportunity to find acceptance in love of an aspect of yourself. It is not in any way a punishment, and instead an actual need that you have to release your future from this darkness (inner node blocking your love/light and potential).
If you think going out and do stuff is helpful, don't prevent yourself.
RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Glow - 09-09-2018
(09-09-2018, 09:24 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-09-2018, 07:46 AM)Agua Wrote:(09-09-2018, 06:53 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Can anybody tell me what's going on with these fear and that dream?
Whats the exact question?
Hasnt the question regarding the fear(s) been answered in this very thread in depth already by various members?
Indeed. So why am I still having some issues?
They're not as pronounced, but they still linger.
Maybe because I haven't gone out to China and DONE the thing yet? I dunno. What do you think the dream means? That's the quetion. Why do you think I had it?
Not to be Mom since I'm only 10 years older(big sister) but I would think it would be best to get over this fear issue before moving across the world away from support systems.
You are spinning in circles. Stop. Take a deep breath.
You should spend some time learning to clear the thoughts from your mind.
Even if you only get 30 seconds at a time you will slowly build up and learn to take over the drivers seat.
Right now your thoughts are in control and you will get no where that way. Stop feeding them.
Discipline of the mind should be your first step as it is running you ragged.
I truly wish you well, and know you can get past this but you have to slow down, and you have to do the work.
Going to China isn't going to change what is happening inside of you.
I will send up request for help for you.
The thought just jumped into my head. Maybe it is to be shared.
If you are drowning someone can temporarily revive you and keep you afloat.
They cannot hold you up for ever though,(healers) you have to learn to swim.
Meditation is a great first step and it isn't actually hard if you start with low expectations of 30 seconds at a time and build up.
I hope you take this with the love and concern it is written from.
Also is it possible weed is contributing to your fear?
Some strains are known to bring on more paranoia then others but you really do not seem to need any more fear.
Perhaps consider if ingesting something known to cause these issues is wise or at least switch strains.