(04-18-2020, 11:33 PM)rinzler Wrote: ...why was Earth a 3D STS planet?...

Quote:[/url]90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved upon this planet and, if so, what was it?

Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools.

Quote:[url=https://www.lawofone.info/s/90]90.18 Questioner: There seems to have been created by this Logos, to me anyway, a large percentage of entities whose distortion was toward warfare, in that we had the Maldek and the Mars experience and now Earth. It seems that Venus was the exception to what we could almost call the rule of warfare. Is this correct and was this envisioned and planned into the construction of the archetypical mind, possibly not with respect particularly to warfare as we have experienced it but to the extreme action to polarization in consciousness?

Ra: I am Ra. It is correct that the Logos designed Its experiment to attempt to achieve the greatest possible opportunities for polarization in third density. It is incorrect that warfare of the types specific to your experiences was planned by the Logos. This form of expression of hostility is an interesting result which is apparently concomitant with the tool-making ability. The choice of the Logos to use the life-form with the grasping thumb is the decision to which this type of warfare may be traced.

(10-14-2021, 04:33 PM)canada_dry Wrote: I think the earth leans toward STS because of the ape body. Ra speculates the ape form is used because it increases the thickness of the veil.

Quote:[/url]90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved upon this planet and, if so, what was it?

Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools.

The ape body also gives us the warfare we experience.

Quote:[url=https://www.lawofone.info/s/90]90.18 Questioner: There seems to have been created by this Logos, to me anyway, a large percentage of entities whose distortion was toward warfare, in that we had the Maldek and the Mars experience and now Earth. It seems that Venus was the exception to what we could almost call the rule of warfare. Is this correct and was this envisioned and planned into the construction of the archetypical mind, possibly not with respect particularly to warfare as we have experienced it but to the extreme action to polarization in consciousness?

Ra: I am Ra. It is correct that the Logos designed Its experiment to attempt to achieve the greatest possible opportunities for polarization in third density. It is incorrect that warfare of the types specific to your experiences was planned by the Logos. This form of expression of hostility is an interesting result which is apparently concomitant with the tool-making ability. The choice of the Logos to use the life-form with the grasping thumb is the decision to which this type of warfare may be traced.

I wonder what kind of animal the Ra civilization was? I think David Wilcock said they were birds, but I don't know why he thinks that. Does anyone know? If they were birds, then that explains why they had an easier time at 3D and a thinner veil. Having to squawk instead of forming sentences meant they would develop concept communication and telepathy more readily. Also, no opposable thumbs, so no complex weapons.

(10-14-2021, 05:22 PM)369Epsilon89/99 Wrote:

(10-14-2021, 04:33 PM)canada_dry Wrote: I think the earth leans toward STS because of the ape body. Ra speculates the ape form is used because it increases the thickness of the veil.

Quote:[/url]90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved upon this planet and, if so, what was it?

Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools.

The ape body also gives us the warfare we experience.

Quote:[url=https://www.lawofone.info/s/90]90.18 Questioner: There seems to have been created by this Logos, to me anyway, a large percentage of entities whose distortion was toward warfare, in that we had the Maldek and the Mars experience and now Earth. It seems that Venus was the exception to what we could almost call the rule of warfare. Is this correct and was this envisioned and planned into the construction of the archetypical mind, possibly not with respect particularly to warfare as we have experienced it but to the extreme action to polarization in consciousness?

Ra: I am Ra. It is correct that the Logos designed Its experiment to attempt to achieve the greatest possible opportunities for polarization in third density. It is incorrect that warfare of the types specific to your experiences was planned by the Logos. This form of expression of hostility is an interesting result which is apparently concomitant with the tool-making ability. The choice of the Logos to use the life-form with the grasping thumb is the decision to which this type of warfare may be traced.

I wonder what kind of animal the Ra civilization was? I think David Wilcock said they were birds, but I don't know why he thinks that. Does anyone know? If they were birds, then that explains why they had an easier time at 3D and a thinner veil. Having to squawk instead of forming sentences meant they would develop concept communication and telepathy more readily. Also, no opposable thumbs, so no complex weapons.

War comes from the concept of duality and separation, not from a specific DNA template such as reptilian or primate. Who is to say that bird based beings would squawk unintelligibly, or that beings without opposable thumbs cannot create complex technology? Not maximizing on the imagination there, my friend. 2d birds already have many complex sounds and vocalizations besides "squawking", just listen to a mocking bird for example. Spoken language would absolutely not be a problem for a bird based species.

Imagine dragons for instance, for a good example of beings without opposable thumbs. Voice, sound, and energy. The sages of old could melt and shape stone with sound and/or touch. Water can be structured by prayer. Thus, one can picture technology and even nanotechnology being shaped by energetic fields and sound waves rather than thumbs.

I hope this helps expand your picture of what is possible in regards to other cultures and how they might live their lives 

(10-16-2021, 05:21 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: Unfortunately, when people try to organize stuff in a more conscious way, in large part it begins oriented around the instinctive drives to hoard resources, avoid losses, etc., and so what builds on a large and collective level can for a long time end up with more negative features than positive. As unity. All the stories about exopolitics sound like human tribes or societies interacting with only small changes to it all, and that's how you know that the stories are really human stories, made to fit too-small human imaginations that reduce everything in the universe to human monkey-business (possibly thinly disguised).

But now I'm rambling...

(10-22-2021, 04:41 PM)Dtris Wrote: The answer lies in where we start this journey and the way we view the world. Family is the original in-group, and we still see people worldwide who are loyal to family, even when that family does horrible things, over outsiders. You see groups who shun outside or institutional justice and prefer local in in-group justice.

Whether you are in-group or out-group has historically been a major determinant in how you were treated. Someone may be kind, giving, charitable, and regarded as a good person by their family, or country, or race, and at the same time do horrible things to people in the out-group, justified by protecting their in-group.

This is why the present day polarization is so harmful and many people are trying to stop it, unfortunately many efforts to do so get pigeonholed into the in or out group ideology.