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RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Namaste - 12-13-2011 (12-12-2011, 08:53 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Dear Namaste, Thank you GLB, very - very - much appreciated. I'll be attempting to build a simple version of this pyramid, I have a friend who is a carpenter, he may have some ideas/ If he does, I'll be sure to share them with you. (12-12-2011, 11:07 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(12-12-2011, 10:39 AM)Namaste Wrote: The thing that confuses me (for the small energising pyramid for under pillow) is this:I think Ra was ignoring Don's misunderstanding and giving the proportion as originally described. Take half a base side, multiply by 1.16 and that's the height. Hmmmm. It seems Ra's words (not Don's clarification) is very much open to various interpretations. Ra Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. It matters not. Only the proportion of the height of the pyramid from base to apex to the perimeter of the base is at all important. Deconstructing: 1. Only the proportion of the height of the pyramid 2. from base to apex 3. to the perimeter of the base It seems clear that the first variable is height, and that the second is it's perimeter. The perimeter of a pyramid is a simple variable, used often in mathematics. I very much doubt Ra would use the incorrect terminology. Saying that, it does create an unusually tall and thin pyramid. I wonder if Ra meant 1.61, instead of 1.16? Closer to the golden ratio. Edit: Can't be that either, it yields a slope of 78.5º. Think I'll stick with an equilateral triangle, such as L/L's :¬) RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - zenmaster - 12-13-2011 (12-13-2011, 08:05 AM)Namaste Wrote:As people have been experimenting with simple pyramid shapes for centuries, you'd think those which 'energize' would be discovered and noted by now. If not noted, their perceived effects would either be way too slow or way too subtle. The steep-angled shape could indeed be the one intended.(12-12-2011, 11:07 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(12-12-2011, 10:39 AM)Namaste Wrote: The thing that confuses me (for the small energising pyramid for under pillow) is this:I think Ra was ignoring Don's misunderstanding and giving the proportion as originally described. Take half a base side, multiply by 1.16 and that's the height. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - _X7 - 12-13-2011 Not to challenge, but rather to offer a mild but perhaps nerdy perspective: My take on the accuracy issue might have actually referred to the inherent geometric challenges, such as: Alignments of sticks or tubes within a "stick-frame" introduce some degree of variance from original stone surface alignments, regarding edges, surfaces, vertices or corners. Solid stone structures vary from purely stick frame geometry. Nevertheless, the effect of human intention can, to a useful degree, transcribe the effects sought after. Obtaining wanted effects can be more important than study of precision geometry. So natural questions could conceivably arise. Should alignments pass through the centroids of the sticks or along the outermost edge of a frame? Could the cross section or 'straightness' of a stick or tube introduce slight-variance from strict geometric standards? How should the corner joints be fitted? How should corners be fastened? Does the fastener add to the variance factors? Are base components helpful? What if the lawn is slightly sloped or if the grass is clumped slightly higher at one corner? What if the base is slightly out of square? RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Tenet Nosce - 12-13-2011 (12-13-2011, 12:09 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I read it differently. By "perimeter of the base", I read measuring from base to apex (from center for height) then from that point to the perimeter. Why would one would need to measure a 4-equal-sided perimeter when dealing with such a proportion? Doesn't make sense. Yeah it is worded strangely. Maybe they did that on purpose? Quote:In other words, in that type of pyramid, it seems that its dimensions can be expressed more simply in terms of the lengths of that right-angle? I think the minimum information necessary is the base width and the angle, yes. Here are some Cliff's notes I found on equations for pyramids. Maybe useful, maybe not. http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/Regular-Pyramids.topicArticleId-18851,articleId-18836.html (12-13-2011, 09:17 AM)zenmaster Wrote: As people have been experimenting with simple pyramid shapes for centuries, you'd think those which 'energize' would be discovered and noted by now. If not noted, their perceived effects would either be way too slow or way too subtle. The steep-angled shape could indeed be the one intended. I thought some healing effects of pyramids were documented in Russia? (12-13-2011, 08:05 AM)Namaste Wrote: I wonder if Ra meant 1.61, instead of 1.16? Closer to the golden ratio. That is an interesting thought. Well at the least we all know how bad Ra is with numbers. (Funny... didn't they teach humanity mathematics?!) I'm still trying to get the timeline of contacts straight after fifteen years! For example, in the same quote Ra talks about building the pyramids 8500 - 4500 years ago, then talks about the later contact with Ikhnaton (Akhenaton) which was only about 3300 years ago. ![]() RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - native - 12-13-2011 (12-12-2011, 11:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Incidentally... this reminds me of something I have previously speculated about... what if there were constructed some sort of gigantic pyramid shape around the earth itself... with the earth at the "Queen's Chamber" position?? Maybe that's how they did the "quarantine". But then again maybe not... wouldn't we all be healed by now?! You have some very heady ideas, Major Tom. The way Ra explains it, it seems Ikhnaton was contacted by thought, in an attempt to alleviate distortion after the pyramid years. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Aaron - 12-13-2011 Just a couple of thoughts... Peregrinus, you claimed: Peregrinus Wrote:The "Queen's Chamber" (a misnomer) was used by an initiate, by way of 'being in the focal point' of intelligent infinity for 72 hours, to achieve the ability to fully and consciously channel Ra. using the following Ra quote to support it: Ra Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. ...The purposes of the pyramids were two: I could see how one would think that someone becoming an initiated channel for the Law of One meaning that that person can then channel Ra. But I offer the suggestion that "becoming a channel for the Law of One" may be simply a different way of saying "becoming enlightened". If an entity is able to take what they've learned in the initiation experience and apply it to their lives every day, they will be effectively channeling the Law of One in their every thought and action ("perfect enlightenment"). Tenet Nosce Wrote:Ahh... ok I see what you were referring to now. The way I've always seen it is that there's no "down" or "up" in space. Intelligent energy doesn't come from "below" the earth, so to speak, but flows from the center outwards after traversing all the various levels before this point. I'd imagine a gargantuan cone affixed to the side of the planet could function as some sort of death ray (first thing that comes to mind is an instrument of destruction lol) or some other positively oriented focusing mechanism. Crazy possibilities... ![]() RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Peregrinus - 12-14-2011 (12-13-2011, 05:18 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: I could see how one would think that someone becoming an initiated channel for the Law of One meaning that that person can then channel Ra. But I offer the suggestion that "becoming a channel for the Law of One" may be simply a different way of saying "becoming enlightened". If an entity is able to take what they've learned in the initiation experience and apply it to their lives every day, they will be effectively channeling the Law of One in their every thought and action ("perfect enlightenment"). I used to think that, but now it doesn't add up. Full consciousness, which we term enlightenment in third density, is consciousness of the density of love. Well ok, it was for Jehoshua. Buddha on the other hand, was harvested to the next octave. The Law of One is sixth density, so in relation indicates that the initiate would be able to purely channel the sixth density higher self, in this case Ra. If the initiate(s) were enlightened, Ra would have said the initiate was able to channel intelligent infinity, not the Law of One If one might note the pharaoh's headdress were adorned with the falcon and the cobra. I would postulate that because Ra was represented in hieroglyph as a large falcon headed bipedal, Ra was also represented as such on the headdress. The kundalini (intelligent infinity use) is well accepted as being represented, on the headdress, by the cobra. Perhaps then these two adornments actually represented both the connection to higher self (Ra) and unimpeded intelligent infinity (II). Whether both were provided to the initiate through use of the queen's chamber, is yet to be answered... though... being that the kings chamber was made available to the initiate by Ra after initiation, would suggest that initiates were not enlightened to even the density of love level, for if they were, they would have no need for the healing chamber, being that an enlightened one IS a mobile healing chamber, as it were. Further quote which endorses this idea of being a channel and not enlightened. Quote:1.4 Ra: ...When we were no longer able to have appropriate channels through which to enunciate the Law of One, we removed ourselves from the now hypocritical position which we had allowed ourselves to be placed in. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Whitefeather - 12-14-2011 Quote:57.21 Questioner: What would the height be, in centimeters, of one of these pyramids for best functioning? Interesting research and comments. ![]() Sharing my view with you... One of the keys is, imho, the point from which the height should be measured. I think that Ra means that the height of the pyramid is measured from one of the angle of the base to the apex. This gives a number for the height. And, that the perimeter is 1.16 this number. It makes sense to me that the proportions change according to purpose as well as to the current times we live in and are going through at this particular nexus of time and changes (on the threshold of 4d). I found a drawing of profiles which I will try to attach. This is a first attempt to attach a pic. Hope that works. ![]() (Edit: Couldn't attach the pic. ![]() RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Namaste - 12-14-2011 (12-13-2011, 05:18 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Just a couple of thoughts... This is my understanding also. Why would Ra, walking among them already, build pyramids to turn people into channels? They were talking directly with them. "The Law of One" is not Ra. Ra is a messenger of the Law of One. It's their own interpretation of the universe. When one is enlightened, all is seen one, and one acts with unconditional love. Thats living the Law of One to the highest STO ideals. Effectively channeling that law through the Self, by thought, word and deed. Not by channeling the notions of Ra (a specific SMC within the framework of LOO). RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Whitefeather - 12-14-2011 (12-12-2011, 08:53 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: And while we're on the subject... Hi Gary, This is not a response to your query regarding the 60 degree angle you are looking for to build. However, would you ever want to build a pyramid according to Ra's measurements, starting with six feet beams for each side at the base (as you said those are already cut to size), you would have next to cut four beams each of 20,7 (feet) and, attach those at each of the four corners at the base, with a meeting point on top, of course. This probably doesn't help much for your project which seems very specific... (Edit: Actually, the calculus is more accurate when starting with the measurement of the height first then calculating the perimeter from the height rather that the other way around. As it is, I reduced the distortion as close as possible which gives a measurement of 24,012 for the perimeter, which is very close.) Have you found a solution since you posted your request btw? All the best. ![]() RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Namaste - 12-14-2011 Whitefeather, I'm pretty sure the 1.16 perimeter/base ratio is only for the small pyramids in which to place under the pillow. The angle they create is far beyond the 'safe' 70º which is related to those that one sits within. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Whitefeather - 12-14-2011 (12-14-2011, 10:33 AM)Namaste Wrote: Whitefeather, Hi Namaste, I wonder, do you know whether the pyramid for which Ra gives the ratio, has ever been built? If you go there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid and, scrolling down, there is a drawing showing a variety of pyramid profiles. This may help in the understanding of purposes in pyramid shapes... RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Tenet Nosce - 12-14-2011 (12-13-2011, 01:41 PM)Icaro Wrote: You have some very heady ideas, Major Tom. I recently read that Pleiadians tend to come off as heady and full of themselves to Earthlings. Well, at least to this one guy who goes by the handle of Fore. Quote:The way Ra explains it, it seems Ikhnaton was contacted by thought, in an attempt to alleviate distortion after the pyramid years. Yes, I see that Ikhnaton was in contact with Ra by some sort of telepathic means. This is the 3300 years ago date as is given later. I was referring to the timeline given in 23.6 where Ra jumps ahead 1200 years, but uses the word "meanwhile" as if it was happening concurrently. Maybe to their state of consciousness, it is. Quote:The first, the Great Pyramid, was formed approximately 6,000 of your years ago. Then, in sequence, after this performing by thought of the building or architecture of the Great Pyramid using the more, shall we say, local or earthly material rather than thought-form material to build other pyramidal structures. This continued for approximately 1,500 of your years. Also... according to this quote it sounds as if the information concerning initiation and healing was being "broadcast" and Ikhnaton was one who was able to tune into it.. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Steppingfeet - 12-14-2011 (12-14-2011, 08:16 AM)Whitefeather Wrote: Hi Gary, Namaste, thank you for the offer to send any information my way you may gather. Whitefeather, definitely would not want to build the 1.16 height-to-base-side-sum pyramid! I think Don understood something about that riddle when opting for an equilateral pyramid. Looking at that photo of Carla in the backyard, I realize that the project is a bit simpler than I thought. If I gather four (instead of eight) pieces of wood of equal length, I can replicate a smaller version of Don's pyramid. I would simply need to find a way to make the four pieces meet evenly at the apex (by asking Jim how Don and he achieved that), and measure out the base sides so that the four pieces of wood were equidistant. I could even mark the four corners on my attic floor, or put some sort of rubber stop in those corners to hold the wood in place. Much love, Gary RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - βαθμιαίος - 12-14-2011 (12-14-2011, 07:40 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: I would simply need to find a way to make the four pieces meet evenly at the apex Not cheap, but... http://www.precisionpyramids.com/pyramidplans.htm#kit http://dowsing.com/shop/product-info.php?pid84.html RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Whitefeather - 12-14-2011 (12-14-2011, 07:40 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Whitefeather, definitely would not want to build the 1.16 height-to-base-side-sum pyramid! I think Don understood something about that riddle when opting for an equilateral pyramid. To share what I understand... the purpose of such a pyramid is for enhancing channeled communication. I see your point in opting for another model. ![]() Love/Light RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Namaste - 12-15-2011 Gary, I have an idea about how to align them quite cheaply and easily (with some patience). Being a doodler... What you need ![]() What to do: ![]() Once the markers/stoppers are in place, and the bowl is large enough to hold the four pole tips without falling off, it should be relatively easy to align it simply by adjusting it until the weight hangs directly over the center marker 'X' on the floor. Another addition would be to drill holes through the tops of the poles, and to buy a steel/iron circle (two semi circles) and weld it together (leaving enough space for the hook in the center)... ![]() That would give much more control for alignment (and stability). RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - AnthroHeart - 12-15-2011 Just make sure not to leave any metal in the pyramid. It interacts with the energy. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Namaste - 12-15-2011 Good point - in that case, a plastic ring :¬) RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - native - 12-16-2011 (12-14-2011, 11:05 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Also... according to this quote it sounds as if the information concerning initiation and healing was being "broadcast" and Ikhnaton was one who was able to tune into it.. That's interesting. I think sending thought is the preferred method of contact. If you're discerning enough, sometimes you can recognize when certain notions, ideas, or inspirations aren't actually yours. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Aaron - 12-17-2011 Peregrinus Wrote:I used to think that, but now it doesn't add up. Full consciousness, which we term enlightenment in third density, is consciousness of the density of love. Well ok, it was for Jehoshua. Buddha on the other hand, was harvested to the next octave. The Law of One is sixth density, so in relation indicates that the initiate would be able to purely channel the sixth density higher self, in this case Ra. If the initiate(s) were enlightened, Ra would have said the initiate was able to channel intelligent infinity, not the Law of One You have a very interesting perspective, Peregrinus! I would have never interpreted the words that way... and I thank you for expanding my horizons in this area. I think it really does boil down to semantics in this case and our interpreting of them in different directions. Consciousness is always completely free. Full consciousness might be full awareness of the 4th density self, or it may go all the way up to 6th or further like the Buddha, like you said. Ra might hold the viewpoint that all beings are always channeling intelligent infinity at all times and spaces, so for them to say that an entity is able to channel intelligent infinity after initiation might not make sense to them. From this viewpoint, the initiation experience can be seen as that which unchains the entity, which lets their mind free from the societal constrictions to drive their vibrational state as high as their will will take them. That's interesting about the Pharaohs' headdresses... Didn't know that! I'm not sure how the vibrational state being congruent with 4th density relates to healing work, if at all. I'm actually currently at the spot where Ra speaks of healing and the pyramids in my current read-through of the material. ![]() The Queen's chamber may have been used for initiation while the King's chamber was used for tuning afterwards. Or maybe the King's chamber was used for tuning for channeling only. There's really no way to know... Your second quote confirms indeed that Ra used people to channel the Law of One in ancient Egypt! ![]() RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Tenet Nosce - 12-17-2011 (12-16-2011, 12:53 AM)Icaro Wrote:(12-14-2011, 11:05 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Also... according to this quote it sounds as if the information concerning initiation and healing was being "broadcast" and Ikhnaton was one who was able to tune into it.. I observe that the vast majority of notions, ideas, and inspirations I receive aren't actually mine. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Aaron - 12-21-2011 Bring4th_Aaron Wrote:Tenet Nosce Wrote:Ahh... ok I see what you were referring to now. *taking up a fork and tying a napkin around my neck* Time to eat my own words! Quote:59.7 Questioner: Would this be similar to the vortex you get when you release water from a bathtub? Quote:59.12 Questioner: Could I assume then that from all points in space light radiates in our illusion outward in a 360° solid angle and this scoop shape with the pyramid then creates the coherence to this radiation as a focusing mechanism? Is this correct? RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Peregrinus - 12-25-2011 (12-17-2011, 02:01 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: You have a very interesting perspective, Peregrinus! I would have never interpreted the words that way... and I thank you for expanding my horizons in this area. It is only my desire to serve, dear brother. (12-17-2011, 02:01 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: I think it really does boil down to semantics in this case and our interpreting of them in different directions. Consciousness exists in levels (or vibratory rates) just as densities do, being... 1st consciousness, 2nd conscious awareness, 3rd conscious self awareness, 4th unity consciousness... Within each density are also an infinite spectrum of consciousness vibratory rates. Dr. David Hawkins explains these quite well for the third density in his book Power vs. Force. Ra spoke of the mbs complex known as Jesus reaching it's fourth density vibration within the third density ("a desired configuration"), and I would suggest as such, Jesus was of that level of unity consciousness, which he clearly exhibited in thought and action, the highest spectrum of 4th density vibration. Quote:17.11 Questioner: What I meant to say was can you tell me if Jesus of Nazareth came from the Confederation before incarnation here? (12-17-2011, 02:01 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Ra might hold the viewpoint that all beings are always channeling intelligent infinity at all times and spaces, so for them to say that an entity is able to channel intelligent infinity after initiation might not make sense to them. From this viewpoint, the initiation experience can be seen as that which unchains the entity, which lets their mind free from the societal constrictions to drive their vibrational state as high as their will will take them. It takes more than just will, for channelling Intelligent Infinity can only be completed when specific requirements are met. Work, specifically in the indigo, is the gateway to this connection with Intelligent Infinity, meaning open rays to the green, upon which the mbs complex may "springboard to work in the indigo", as it were. This is not the same as balanced rays, for work in the indigo may be done as long as the desire/calling/practices are put into motion, long before any true balance is achieved. Short term balancing of the rays may be done through prayer, contemplation, meditation, and the (conscious or unconscious) use of metaphysical means which may come as a result of these practices. (12-17-2011, 02:01 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: I'm not sure how the vibrational state being congruent with 4th density relates to healing work, if at all. I'm actually currently at the spot where Ra speaks of healing and the pyramids in my current read-through of the material. This is indeed correct, though I may again submit for your consideration that work in the indigo and fully balanced rays are not same thing. What we might call enlightenment is contained within that balance, and whether it is sustained or not. The following quote bears some weight in this discussion. Quote:6.1 Questioner: We would like to continue the material from yesterday. (12-17-2011, 02:01 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: The Queen's chamber may have been used for initiation while the King's chamber was used for tuning afterwards. Or maybe the King's chamber was used for tuning for channeling only. There's really no way to know... The King's chamber was used for healing, as per the Ra quote below. The reason it was thought by archaeologists to be a King's chamber was due to the empty open topped sarcophagus-like stone container which resides in the room, which has been publicly misrepresented as where the King was laid to rest, even though never once was a Pharaoh found in a pyramid; they were all entombed in the Valley of the Kings. No cover or lid for this sarcophagus was ever found, for this was not required for the healing, so archaeologists theorized that it had been made of precious metals and removed. Quote:55.11 Questioner: This would indicate to me that in the Great Pyramid at Giza, the Queen’s Chamber, as it is called, would be the chamber used for initiation. Is this correct? RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Willis - 02-07-2014 Quote:57.20 Questioner: If a pyramid shape were placed below an entity, how would this be done? Would it be placed beneath the bed? I’m not quite sure about how to energize the entity by “placing it below.” Could you tell me how to do that? I've also noticed this rather confusing number in my research, and hopefully my humble opinion will shed some new insight on this. I looked into the 1.16 quote, and I think there might have been a slight misunderstanding in how Don phrased his question in 57.23. "...the sum of the four base sides should be 1.16 of the height of the pyramid" could be seen as all the combined lengths of the sides equals 1.16 of the height. There's another way to interpret Don's question, where the length of one side is 1.16 of the height of the pyramid. Even Ra's quote, "Only the proportion of the height of the pyramid from base to apex to the perimeter of the base" is a little muddy, where you can separate the "Only the proportion of the height of the pyramid from base" from "apex to the perimeter of the base". In this new way of looking at it, an equilateral pyramid pops up, for a pyramid with a 1.16 base and 1 height has an apex angle of 60.228. This is fairly close to an equilateral pyramid, or at least a equilateral triangle when the pyramid is cut in half. I've included a diagram illustrating this idea. ![]() Now even though this line of questioning was specifically focusing on using the spiraling energy emitted from the apex, this could certainly be used as well for meditating inside. The apex angle is very far from 70, so there's no chance of the king's chamber effect. RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Namaste - 02-07-2014 Very interesting indeed Willis, it looks like you've fit it all together! It explains why Don built an equilateral pyramid at L/L. Thanks very much for sharing your thoughts :¬) RE: The L/L Meditation Pyramid - Sjokoprins - 05-26-2019 (02-07-2014, 04:34 PM)Namaste Wrote: Very interesting indeed Willis, it looks like you've fit it all together! It explains why Don built an equilateral pyramid at L/L. Hi all, well i built a pyramid with the 1.16 proportion. It is indeed a very sharp pyramid but when you make a small one that fits under your chair or bed its very usefull. Another thing is that the 1.16 pyramid produces a very powerfull upward spiraling energy. When using a crystal which is placed upwards then it becames even more powerfull. I believe Ra wanted us to observe (=investigate) this proportion ( base perimeter = 1.16 x height). When you translate the perimeter of the base to a cirkel and the diameter of the cirkel proportional to the height is then the number e ( logarithmic number)! |