(04-05-2013, 02:39 AM)52midnight Wrote: > Always remember, if you feel that you're a wanderer, you're here to help *other selves* make the harvest.

I disagree strongly. In my experience, a wanderer may have many different motives. I have very little interest in helping "*other selves* make the harvest", if only because there are plenty of others already doing that.

This planet has a unique "colour" of negativity that has created many unique aspects of consciousness, and I'm most interested in retaining these aspects, but detached from their negative origins. This requires me to "identify" with the negative aspects that created them, then "dis-identify" whilst carrying the valuable "condensations" with me. Very difficult and only ever partially successful in a first attempt, but my success rate is improving. This leaves me no time to trouble myself with the "harvestability" of those who are probably lost causes in any case.

My best wishes to those carrying on this other humanitarian work, but I think it's very misleading to insist that novice wanderers should abide by what is essentially an Abrahamic interpretation of the role.

(04-09-2013, 03:14 PM)Charles Wrote: I truly do hope to never return.

(03-11-2013, 08:53 PM)anagogy Wrote: No, I very much doubt it is quite that fragile.

My understanding is that your "negative orientation towards other selves" would have to become a deeply ingrained part of your character to get you caught up in the planetary vibration. The occasional deviation from an otherwise predominately STO habit of thought and behavior won't stop you from going home after this incarnation.

(04-05-2013, 02:39 AM)52midnight Wrote: > Always remember, if you feel that you're a wanderer, you're here to help *other selves* make the harvest.

I disagree strongly.

Quote:12.26 Questioner: Thank you. Well, you spoke of Wanderers. Who are Wanderers? Where do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of its desire, it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow move towards this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to serve in this distortion.

(04-05-2013, 02:39 AM)52midnight Wrote: I disagree strongly. In my experience, a wanderer may have many different motives. I have very little interest in helping "*other selves* make the harvest", if only because there are plenty of others already doing that.

(03-11-2013, 02:05 AM)zenmaster Wrote: In my view, it is not important at all to have STO action (or STS action) in order to go back to their density. I see nothing in the material which suggests otherwise, so I asked the question.

Quote:12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?

Ra: ... The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

Quote:16.61 Ra: ... If the Wanderer entity demonstrated through action a negative orientation towards other-selves it would be as we have said before, caught into the planetary vibration and, when harvested, possibly repeat again the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity. ...

Quote:70.15 Questioner: ... If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?

Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.

(04-06-2014, 02:20 PM)Parsons Wrote: As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

(04-06-2014, 12:33 PM)zenmaster Wrote: You've misunderstood my post which only suggested that one does not need to polarize further...

(04-06-2014, 02:20 PM)Parsons Wrote: As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

Quote:the process or phenomenon in which the waves of light or other electromagnetic radiation are restricted to certain directions of vibration, usually specified in terms of the electric field vector

(04-06-2014, 08:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(04-06-2014, 02:20 PM)Parsons Wrote: As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

From where did you develop a notion of neutral polarization?

(04-06-2014, 11:07 PM)Parsons Wrote:

(04-06-2014, 08:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(04-06-2014, 02:20 PM)Parsons Wrote: As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

From where did you develop a notion of neutral polarization?

I was merely executing my standard modus operandi of rewording the same concept twice in order to mitigate the possibility of being misunderstood. Please disregard the previous question and I'll requery:

How is it possible for an awake wanderer to not polarize at all when presented with catalyst?

Quote:Wanderers

Let’s look at the Love Bite/Dark Side of Cupid scenario in light of the idea of Wanderers. Wanderers are individuals whose souls have incarnated from a higher density (4th or 6th density) into this 3rd density with a specific mission to accomplish in order to assist humanity, helping with The Harvest or Graduation to 4th Density during this Age of Transformation. However, due to the “veil of forgetting” when entering a lower density, the mission/task by the Wanderer is forgotten and he/she needs to awaken to what they came here to do.

Wanderers need to become conscious and aware of the traps, deceptions and distractions in 3rd density which may interfere with their mission since most people are NOT like them, but have a different inner wiring so to speak. Ra mentions that “the Wanderer is less inclined to the deviousness of third density and therefore does not recognize as easily as a more negative individual would, the negative nature of thoughts or beings“.

“Ra tells us that wanderers are vulnerable because they become completely the creature of third density in mind and body, and are, by nature, less inclined to deviousness and manipulation. For this reason, they often do not recognize as easily the negative nature of other beings or thoughts before they become involved with them.Then, very often, because of this very lack of perception of negativity, they often persist in relationships that are negative because they repeatedly attribute to the other person their own benevolent motives and perceptions.

Additionally, there is just as much chance of negative hyperdimensional telepathic mind control influence being brought to bear on a wanderer as anyone else. The only difference occurs in what Ra calls the “spirit complex” which, if it wishes, has an armor of light which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not appropriately desired. This is not more than a bias, and cannot be called an understanding. So, in other words, you just have an instinct about things that are not right. But then, with all our be-nice programming, we generally override the instinct and shove such signals under the rug, or search endlessly for reasons to excuse bad behavior…. Ra and the Cs both confirm that wanderers, however they are defined, are most definitely high-priority targets of the Matrix Controllers.“

- Laura Knight-Jadczyk, The Wave (Volume 2): Soul Hackers – The Hidden Hands Behind The New Age Movement

Wanderers are not only subject to hypedimensional manipulation in this Matrix Control System as everyone else, but are PRIMARY targets of the 4D STS forces because their mission obviously interferes with the plans of the controllers of this world and they don’t want this to happen. They don’t want to loose their food source.

Laura Knight-Jadczyk makes an excellent analysis of this issue in “Soul Hackers – The Hidden Hands Behind The New Age Movement” (The Wave Book 2), chapter All There Is Is Lessons, or Wandering Around in Third Density Can Be Hazardous to Your Health. Here’s a longer excerpt:

The problem seems to be that of “waking up” [of the wanderer] to the nature of the mission and this presents special problems. Ra gives us several more clues:

“Wanderers become completely the creatures of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of [them being subjected to Orion STS mind programming attempts] as to a mind/body complex of [strictly third density]. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.”

So we begin to understand that even the purest of the pure are subject to corruption and deception. They do seem to have a bit of help in separating the wheat from the chaff, but Ra describes it as “not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.”

The problem is, the “bias” often comes into direct conflict with the mind programming efforts of the Orion STS and a lot of suffering and torture can result. And there is also a special weakness of those who are configured to STO — since they don’t have meanness and deception in their own hearts, it can take almost forever for them to see it in others who are being used to keep them from awakening! Ra remarks on this as well:

“Furthermore, the Wanderer is less inclined to the deviousness of third density and therefore does not recognize as easily as a more negative individual would, the negative nature of thoughts or beings… [If the Wanderer is successfully co-opted by the Orion STS it would be] caught into the planetary vibration and, when harvested, possibly repeat again the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity.”

Ra also confirmed Don’s remark that those with missions, Wanderers, are “high priority targets” of the Orion STS faction. That’s a scary thought!

What it means is that if a person comes into incarnation from a higher density with a mission to serve, not only are they enveloped in the “veil of forgetting”, they become special targets for a bunch of Intergalactic rapists and murderers who are only restrained in their actions by some sort of vague Law of Free Will which still allows every imaginable trick and deception to be perpetrated on them so that they will engage in relationships, beliefs, actions or reactions designed to “bring them down a few densities,” so to speak!

And they only get a “bias” toward what is Truth, and not a clear understanding!

So with all of this information we are trying to put together about what is out there just waiting to trap and deceive us, how in the world are we supposed to have a clue as to what is going on? Just who are the Good Guys here?!

“[In terms of STO contacts from the higher densities] the infringement upon free will is greatly undesired. Therefore, those entities, which are Wanderers upon your plane of illusion, will be the only subjects for the thought projections that make up the so-called “Close Encounters” and meetings…”

Ra seems to be saying that only the “Wanderers” have any hope of being in contact with the higher level “Good Guys” because they are, ipso facto, already of STO configuration and therefore, contact is not an infringement upon their free will as it would be if the STO contact came to a third density being who has not yet graduated to the higher densities.

Of course, they all look alike here on the Big Blue Marble, and they are all mostly engaged in living relatively normal lives side by side with one another. And they do have to be “awakened”! Also, there is a special condition under which Wanderers may be contacted, it seems, that pretty much eliminates your “weekend seminar” in channeling. It seems that there is an almost mathematical law involved in being able to communicate with higher density beings

If we just stop and think for a moment about the nature of most people on the planet who do not want to search or learn; they do not want to think or do the necessary work that prepares a “vessel” for the inflow of higher knowledge; they want to be “saved” with as little effort as possible, then you begin to understand the odds against contact with truly higher density STO beings. That is the operation of the Law of Free Will.

The majority of beings of third density are STS — they would not be in this density otherwise. By this choice, they have also chosen the illusions that are part of this “con job”. Yes, at a very deep level, it is a choice to experience in order to learn, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here.

By the very fact that this is the choice of the majority, the few who might truly wish to perceive the truth are overruled by the mass choice according to the law of Free Will!

Even if the being is a fourth or sixth density “Wanderer”, by entering this density, they have chosen to “play by the rules” and cannot abridge them!
[…]
Ra did give us a figure: 65 million Wanderers on the planet at the time he was speaking. That amounts to about one person out of every hundred on the planet. But how many of them survive the attacks? How many of them actually do, can, or will wake up? Particularly when we must expect them to be objects of special “attention” in terms of “attack”?
[…]
So now we begin to understand the special traps set up for these Wanderers wherein human agents are used to manipulate and control them. If they cannot be corrupted directly, the strategy is to corrupt those around them — including family, friends, spouses and associates of all kinds.
[…]
There was a curious exchange with the Cassiopaeans at one session which included another individual who also fits this profile that gives some clues as to how this occurs:

(11-30-2014, 07:50 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: ^^ I didn't agree with "The majority of beings of third density are STS"

Quote:17.23 ↥ Questioner: You spoke of the alleviation of karma being forgiveness. Are… are… I’m having a hard time phrasing this question. I think I’ll have to come back to it. I’ll ask this other question. Can you tell me why the Earth will be fourth-density positive instead of fourth-density negative after the cycle is complete since it seems that there is a greater negative population?

Ra: I am Ra. The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

(12-01-2014, 01:47 PM)Unbound Wrote: "Seems"