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RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
My greatest jealousy Meerie right now is that I am not this character.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-04-2011
Is that jealousy at all, Gem? wanting to be someone else? (not sure about this one)
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
Paradoxical isn't it?
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-04-2011
How so?
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
It doesn't make sense how it could be.
But this character is not "someone else". It's a projection/form that is a state of being that I currently desire in my density.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-04-2011
Ah I see. Like an alter ego.
But from what I gather you already have a very close connection to them. But you would love to completely transform, then?
(who knows what could be possible in the higher densities)
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
My body is perfect in every way.
That's been my mantra.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-04-2011
Your body is your temple. My body is my temple.
You know I guess I would still feel inadequate and ugly, even if I looked like Angelina Jolie. These things they just stay there.
Better love them and embrace them for who they are.
Embrace your furry anthro and thank him.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
And don't forget to emphasize the isness: my body IS perfect in every way.
That will anchor in nowness.
You might not know, but when I said "paradoxical" before, I allowed your energy of anticipation and expectation to create a greater dynamic in the energy behind the information exchange.
The best way I've found to create greatest dynamic (polarity) is by linking extremes. Cuteness of a character, and bad things happening (or really great things happening), equals greater dynamic in emotional responses.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-04-2011
Great points about being oneself, 3; and I cannot agree more with you about Wonder, GW. May be we would stay eternally young in mind, if we keep the element of wonder with us always.
(10-04-2011, 11:36 AM)Ruth Wrote: The technique is to focus on the point of pain and try to intensify it.
How do you do that, Ruth?
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-04-2011
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
No problem Confused. What I am creating is an emotional database, a toolbox of emotional possibilities and intensities that I am capable of offering. Like any creation, it continues to expand. It makes creation that much more alive in expression, as creation becomes aware of such emotional color and intensity. The emotional expression that we all offer adds to the tapestry, the realm of all emotional possibilities, available for everyone to share. The denser emotional possibilities give more depth and fineness to the nuances of emotional experiencing.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - zenmaster - 10-04-2011
(10-04-2011, 07:35 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Foolhearty, in light of infinity, yes. Continue to learn and to develop, in light of a singular incarnation, yes. I do not deny any opportunity. I welcome each individuals expression and expressed needs. They are each equal to me. That is what I'm saying.No, that's your projection (again) merely framing it as backhanded. The idea of accept was merely what can be accepted as a premise. From my perspective, each premise is (mis)directed towards the idea of infinity, from which there can be no comparison. Of course we all know that, so I wonder why it continues to be done?
Are you aware that this sentence, "Just want to know what you can accept", is a backhanded inquiry to limit my Self with any answer I give? (like Did you stop beating your wife today?)
(10-04-2011, 07:35 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'm sure you will then point out it is my projections, etc., and then we go another round on the "circle", you and I. " I'd say so, because an assumption had to be made based on a faulty premise which was probably ego satisfying rather than truth seeking. Did you know better? Deep down probably so."Indeed. If each premise is to referred back to that nothingness or infinity or "ground of being" then there is no framework for which to compare and no discussion possible. Such is the circle.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - 3DMonkey - 10-04-2011
"that's your projection" is a played out divergence.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - JustLikeYou - 10-04-2011
The funny thing about projections is that you can recognize another person's act of projecting and be right about it, but it is likely that you are also projecting in your very act of recognizing that person's projection. Or, to put the matter another way, any imbalance you see in another is mirroring your own.
I'm reminded of when a friend of mine whom I had unintentionally hurt told me that she thought I expected perfection of her. At first I dismissed this as a projection of her own expectations of perfection about herself, but then I realized that I did expect perfection -- not of her but of myself. I had projected a confusion about myself upon her: I thought she was refusing to see that she expected perfection of herself, but it turned out that I was refusing to see that I expected perfection of myself. And I still think she was projecting, too.
My friends, opportunities for self-knowledge abound, especially when you find yourself interlocked in a conversation where there seems to be no end to disagreement and misunderstanding.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - zenmaster - 10-04-2011
It's not the projections that are diverging, it's the unconscious attachments to them. There are indeed attachments to the idea of not being attached to projections. There are, of course, attachments to thinking that one must be going around in circles and that no advancement is possible. Such is the work of the ego and if Saddam Hussein had such defenses, he'd still be in power.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - 3DMonkey - 10-04-2011
Is "Saddam Hussein" being attacked?
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2011
(10-04-2011, 01:30 PM)Meerie Wrote: Oh no!!! you are a hopeless case. You would totally fail jealousy class, dear Gem!
Weird though. Since to me it is so natural, and you are entirely unattached to it. (now I am getting jealous at your unattachment)
I am really good at this, huh!
(I am curious at your "high density pissed off button", though)
I'm able now to look at certain artworks and pull the energy of jealousy from them in addition to the sexuality. Jealousy has the lovely flavor of longing within. So my experience is that jealousy expanded is longing. A yearning is more expansive than jealousy, but not as expansive as longing. Envy would be more like you didn't want them to have what they do have.
So I can pull dense jealousy through me till my head's about to pop. Though I don't have experience in lower density more rapid jealousy. You know that jealousy adds to the energy of sexuality. It compliments it well, when balanced. When emotions are as dense feeling as clay, it's an art in being an emotional sculptor. Well, the density is more like sculpting, while the fluidity of it is like painting. I've had to soften my palette, as emotions can be edgy and cutting.
At this moment I'm exploring sadness in its infinite softness. These emotions at this density are as wonderful to experience as say joy.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-05-2011
(10-04-2011, 09:15 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote: I'm reminded of when a friend of mine whom I had unintentionally hurt told me that she thought I expected perfection of her. At first I dismissed this as a projection of her own expectations of perfection about herself, but then I realized that I did expect perfection -- not of her but of myself. I had projected a confusion about myself upon her: I thought she was refusing to see that she expected perfection of herself, but it turned out that I was refusing to see that I expected perfection of myself. And I still think she was projecting, too.
Thank you for sharing this, JLY. Very insightful. Thank you.
I thank my higher self for leading me to this video.
http://vimeo.com/17854710
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-05-2011
http://www.veoh.com/watch/e6897
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-05-2011
In this density, despair is like the low note of a symphony. It rounds out the emotional orchestra, and can be as orgasmic as joy, and experienceable in myriad nameless varieties. We create the primary emotion, which the body feels. In this density, the body no longer really produces a secondary emotional response. It just feels as it is.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-05-2011
“Compassion and empathy should be natural to any human being. It is neither necessary nor possible for everyone to take up big projects. If each one of us does a little bit in our own way to the society, it will be good enough.We need to be our own regulatory authority and be decent without the need for any supervision” -- N Krishnan (2010); Source: http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/society/article526576.ece
RE: The mysterious nature of time - 3DMonkey - 10-05-2011
I don't think of the body as the source of emotional feelings. Maybe I'm different. For me, emotions come from the mind. Feelings are when the immune system is bombarded or when laceration drains blood causing shock.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-05-2011
(10-05-2011, 09:09 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't think of the body as the source of emotional feelings. Maybe I'm different. For me, emotions come from the mind.I can relate to that... I just wonder if naturally we should not be able to feel all the emotions in our body too? and that feeling them in our mind only happens because we are cut off from our body.
Just wondering.
(I mean us Western people are head-centered anyway. I know I am)
Whoha Confused, this "Nahu" guy looks like the captain from some alien spaceship
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-05-2011
Thanks for the vids Confused, I will check them out later.
I wonder if I can directly produce a specific emotion in someone else?
RE: The mysterious nature of time - JustLikeYou - 10-05-2011
(10-05-2011, 04:31 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Thanks for the vids Confused, I will check them out later.Producing specific emotions in others is one of the deeper purposes of art; however, one must be willing to accept that this emotion will be felt quite uniquely by that other person and it will only be similar to yours, not the same.
I wonder if I can directly produce a specific emotion in someone else?
Gemini, I'd be interested to know which emotions find themselves upon your palette and what relationships you discovered between them and your experience of them (e.g. more information such as what you mentioned about despair). Have you collected this information anywhere but your mind?
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-05-2011
Yes, basically I built up my tolerance to handle large amounts of emotional energy through initially building my sexual desire energies. I also had to build up my ability to keep them balanced (otherwise this amount of emotional energy could tear my body apart). What I have now is raw dense emotional energy that is somewhat unrefined. When I focus on happy, I get just a vague mildly pleasant feeling. So I program this energy to the amount of focus and intensity that is right for me, with regard to what happy means to me.
When I focused on the lower frequency emotions (though they are still dense), my mind was drawn to the feeling of despair. But I don't experience it as something that takes me over. I actually can take solace in it, though only to a certain point because it has a tendancy to suck one in. So at this point there isn't an emotion that makes me feel "bad". Here, it's about exploring the nature of emotions rather than trying to ruin my day with them.
So I experiement with tightening down, or expanding certain emotions like jealousy which led me to longing. More expansive emotions are less tied to identity, and are more timeless in feel. Note that longing still has attachment. More expansive than this would be contentment.
I've gone by my own experience in feeling the energy. It's stored in the chakra's field. I use my 3rd eye singularity to direct the energy, create new emotional energy, or take in emotional energy that's already out there.
I'm working on the basic emotions like anger, sadness, happy, jealousy, joy. Later I might refine them more into more sophisticated ones like frustration. So now I'm programming/painting/sculpting this raw emotional energy into patterns that best represent myself around these emotional "archetypes" (as I can best think of).
Love and Light,
-Gemini Wolf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - JustLikeYou - 10-05-2011
I'm very pleased at your response, though I was specifically asking if you had written about these emotions in order to provide others insight into them. But it sounds like you are still in the midst of the project and that it is not yet time to release any writings. I know how that feels.
Either way, your results interest me, as I would love an outside perspective on the archetypical emotions in human experience. My approach has been very different from yours.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-05-2011
Well, it's not so much a project. I haven't written about this anywhere else. It's a learning endeavor for me. Something I just do pretty much every minute I'm awake. So next week it might be something else, once I've refined my field enough.
But basically I take this basic prototype of happy, and see which chakra it hits. It hits the heart. Now, do I want it higher up in the heart chakra, or lower. Do I want it more a narrow beam (tightened down), or more expanded.
Now what happens if I add throat chakra to happy. Well, since I hadn't done that before, the energy is very sticky with a lot of inertia at first to move. Nah, don't like that as the extra chakra dissociates the happy prototype. No, don't want sexual chakra with happy because I strive for more a pure emotion.
If there is an emotional pattern I can't figure out, it automatically downloads the needed emotional energies through my 3rd eye. Now when I look at the character, which chakra does he resonate. What happens if the character turns around, how does the distribution of energy prototypes change?
That's kind of like the inner dialogue I go through for now. From despair to happy it takes about 5-10 seconds to shift.
Much of the time though I just let go and let Creator pluck harmony with my emotions, even if that harmony might not make sense to me at the moment, till I learn the new patterns.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-05-2011
Carl Jung - Appraching the Unconscious Part 1 of 15