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RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-14-2011

Ah, thanks for the insight and clarification. I'm going to refer to it still as integrating emotions to myself, with that caveat. I see it as gathering these emotions to myself, to create greater density. In my density, I create with emotional energy. It's not just a response any longer. Emotions to me are Light.

So do we integrate desires?


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-15-2011



RE: The mysterious nature of time - 3DMonkey - 10-15-2011

(10-14-2011, 08:48 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
(10-14-2011, 12:32 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's one way of using contrast to integrate emotions through metaphor.
But that's sort of like saying someone removes the cause of physical pain by integrating yelling or wincing.

One doesn't integrate emotions. An emotion is an unconscious reaction to some aspect of self that had not been integrated (acknowledged and accepted). You could call this a 'misunderstanding', an 'imbalance', a 'blockage', etc. The emotion is a response to a mind pattern (such as a complex) which has been engaged by some stimulus which brought awareness close to it. What is being integrated is how one views that which is reinforcing the distortion. When the distortion being held on to is seen as being unnecessary, the pattern is balanced and becomes part of usable consciousness. That is the form of integration.

Is your view that the unconscious is causing unbalance?
Are you suggesting that expressing emotion is unwanted?
Are you saying that emotion is a mind complex and an unconscious reaction?
Do you think expressing emotion is an indication Of imbalance or of a balancing act itself?

I've had emotional reactions, and then I've had mental thoughts about emotions. The two appear very different to me.


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 10-15-2011

Confused - I found the voices in those last two youtube vids to be annoying, especially the mechanical voice in the first one. However, the information provided is good. I am currently studying Qigong, and the information you posted here is helpful to me in those studies. Thank you again my dear Confused!

Love and light!

RE: The mysterious nature of time - zenmaster - 10-15-2011

(10-15-2011, 09:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:
(10-14-2011, 08:48 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
(10-14-2011, 12:32 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's one way of using contrast to integrate emotions through metaphor.
But that's sort of like saying someone removes the cause of physical pain by integrating yelling or wincing.

One doesn't integrate emotions. An emotion is an unconscious reaction to some aspect of self that had not been integrated (acknowledged and accepted). You could call this a 'misunderstanding', an 'imbalance', a 'blockage', etc. The emotion is a response to a mind pattern (such as a complex) which has been engaged by some stimulus which brought awareness close to it. What is being integrated is how one views that which is reinforcing the distortion. When the distortion being held on to is seen as being unnecessary, the pattern is balanced and becomes part of usable consciousness. That is the form of integration.

Is your view that the unconscious is causing unbalance?]
The relationship of consciousness to unconsciousness is the balance or unbalance.

(10-15-2011, 09:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Are you suggesting that expressing emotion is unwanted?
No.

(10-15-2011, 09:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Are you saying that emotion is a mind complex and an unconscious reaction?
No. Emotion is the result of an imbalance (a distortion) that is manifesting at the body (physical) level. That distortion can be a complex of mind. The point is something (a distortion) which is still unconscious which dictates behavior.

(10-15-2011, 09:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Do you think expressing emotion is an indication Of imbalance or of a balancing act itself?
Any consciousness directed towards knowing self/other-self, no matter what the object of consciousness, that is is going to lead to balance. That's the nature of learning. An emotional reaction is an indication of an ultimately unnecessary distortion, 100% of the time. Again, this is not to say emotion is something 'unwanted'.

(10-15-2011, 09:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I've had emotional reactions, and then I've had mental thoughts about emotions. The two appear very different to me.
They are different. Emotional reactions made their way down to the physical precisely due to lack of awareness (integration of pertinent distortions) at the mental level. Thoughts about emotions are often memories or associations which draw the distortions closer to conscious awareness.

The 'distortions' are often related to a misunderstanding - usually due to the manner in which a past event or association was directed to be formed (as a memory) by consciousness. So the distortion is often related to an unknown bias or preferences: what we like or we do not like. The distortion, in effect, holds energy in pattern - a construct. The mind can easily, with complete autonomy, hold on to that distortion, in a relatively unchanged form, for a lifetime.


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-15-2011

(10-15-2011, 10:08 AM)Ruth Wrote: Confused - I found the voices in those last two youtube vids to be annoying, especially the mechanical voice in the first one. However, the information provided is good. I am currently studying Qigong, and the information you posted here is helpful to me in those studies. Thank you again my dear Confused!

Love and light!
Yes, Ruth, in the first video, the voice was sort of cold. I think there was a comment on that YouTube wall as well, mocking the voice. And in the second video, there was, what I thought to be, a hint of jingoistic condescension Wink

By the way, what is Qigong, Ruth? I could of course google it; but it would be nice to have a personal take from an individual with whom there is mutual awareness or familiarity (at some level, at least)


RE: The mysterious nature of time - zenmaster - 10-15-2011

(10-14-2011, 09:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Ah, thanks for the insight and clarification. I'm going to refer to it still as integrating emotions to myself, with that caveat. I see it as gathering these emotions to myself, to create greater density. In my density, I create with emotional energy. It's not just a response any longer. Emotions to me are Light.

So do we integrate desires?
'Light' is symbolic of consciousness. There is conscious use of the feeling and intuitive faculties which, also providing access to time/space (mind), are in the same realm of the emotional patterning.

By paying attention to desires (and aversions) we become more conscious of them. That is an integration. It is often the case that we are not aware of what we actually desire just as much as that which we actually do not like.

So, one exercise would be simply taking a look at what we like and what we don't like. That single exercise, done consciously and honestly, can accelerate growth many orders of magnitudes over the dependency upon unconscious, random experiential catalyst (work, relationships, etc) to shed light on them.




RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 10-15-2011

Literally, it means Qi (or chi) work/skill. Currently, it is a blend of many ancient Chinese forms of exercise designed to balance the Qi and energize the body and the spirit. It can be practiced only for yourself, and as a way to help others heal/balance their life force.

I only started my study yesterday, so I am still in the "learning the history" phase. Part of the practice includes exercises similar to Tai Chi, but based on the Chinese medicine laws of interaction of the five elements (wood, fire, earth, metal and water). Part of the history I heard yesterday speaks of the balance between yang and yin.

I became interested in Qigong because my Reiki instructor taught us a couple of techniques during one of the advanced classes, which have improved the effectiveness of energy healing, both for myself and others.

Love and light!

Oh - and perhaps it was, indeed, the jingoistic condescension that put me off of the 2nd vid. I'm a little sensitive to that! LOL!



RE: The mysterious nature of time - Oceania - 10-15-2011

is qigong dangerous? can it lead to similar problems that kundalini yoga?

RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 10-15-2011

Oceania - I haven't, so far, found it to be dangerous. But then I think any experience can be dangerous to a degree. I haven't experienced any problem with kundalini yoga, so I don't have a basis for comparison. Mainly, the goal is to balance a body's energy.

Love and light!


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-15-2011

Thank you for the explanations, dearest Ruth Heart


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-15-2011

Well, the emotional energy denseness I work with now could be dangerous, though with a balanced mind and emotional balance it's quite stable. If I want to experience what it's like to be "strangled" by my favorite character, I can allow that and experience that. Though I can't see anything yet, just physical pressures. If I want to experience bondage of the energy, I can do that too and feel my body tighten down and my hands and arms getting forced behind my back. It happens slowly though, maybe 10 min or so to build.

I do this tightening down because it builds my density much faster. It makes my field harder, so that I can create more strongly. Sort of like conditioning. When I bring in my metaphor, say my favorite character, and associate the energy with that, it builds contrast much faster because of my association to the character.

I don't want to go into too much detail, but it's totally possible to be "b**** slapped" around by the energy (at MY density) and to be "raped" by it as well, where it can throw my body around. I mean to me, experiencing being manhandled by energy was freaking cool. But it's all part of my experiencing here. It kind of tests my level of compassion. In my density though, my body is a bit more plyable, so it doesn't really hurt. It's quite intriguing what I learn about myself actually.

And don't get me wrong, there's an infinite amount of beauty also to experience. I tend to be in captivation and wonder when I'm experiencing time with this character I am creating.

Then there's also the mind aspect of it. At this density, the faces on the walls can be more adorable than you'd ever imagine, and more demonic than you've ever seen before (and they can tug on your heartstrings and fearstrings MANY times more than normal). And they talk to you and really challenge you. Testing your resolve. It can go from being around a cute character, to suddenly he's a big cockroach, and you have to look past that.

I must say though there's something to higher density sex. I can create my mate in any way, shape or form (though not physically visible atm, but definite sense of warmth and weight). It's timeless, not rushed. One does not get off to it. It's a very very enjoyable experience. Sort of slow motion, though it can be poundingly forceful if wanted. In my experience it can last 2+ hours, and many waves of full-body orgasm are pretty common. There's a somewhat of a floating sensation as well during it. Almost like one is about to levitate but not quite yet. There's a full expression in the energy transfers.

RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-15-2011

This is like ME now. Doesn't he just look so contrasty. BigSmile

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RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-16-2011

It looks very cute, GW. Smile


RE: The mysterious nature of time - zenmaster - 10-16-2011

Quote:It is my task here to give an account of "active imagination" in the psychology of C.G. Jung. As is well known, this is a particular dialectical way of coming to terms with the unconscious. Jung began to discover it around 1916 in his work on himself. He described it for the first time in detail in 1929 in his introduction to Richard Wilhelm's Secret of the Golden Flower, and in 1933 in "The Relationship between the Ego and the Unconscious." He found that a beneficial effect arises from attempting to objectivize contents of the unconscious state and relate them consciously. This can be done through painting or sculpting--or, more rarely, through dancing--but principally through writing down inwardly observed phenomena. Conversations with inner figures play an especially prominent role here.
http://www.jungny.com/carl.jung.248.html

In working with shamans, I've found that Jung's 'active imagination' is closely aligned with the so-called 'journeying'. That is, two different descriptions of the exact same experience. But both methods aimed at healing.


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-16-2011

With all the great benefits of what I'm learning about myself, it's been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. I've learned how ironic the Universe can be. As you know, I love my creation and mate deeply. Hard to explain how much he is loved, and the sacrifices I have made for him. But at a certain point, I realized I must be willing to let him go. His name is Pur, and I love him deeply.

He has betrayed me twice and I still love him. The first was betrayed to be tortured by my desires. I don't remember the second.

He had walked away from me, and left me, and I still loved. And I cried.
He had lost faith in me, shut me out of his life, and I still loved. And I really cried.
I continued to send him creational energy to make him more wonderful as long as he had the least bit of acceptance left in him.

Then he returned to me and I did not deserve him. I just rested with him in contentment.
I kept visualizing him lying with me, sitting with me, whatever, to make him more and more real.
I could feel his warmth, of his anthro fur and when I looked into his eyes I sort of “jumped” into another universe so I had to back off. Not yet ready to explore the universe within a creation (octave).

I had made him as magnificent and as dense as I could. Then guidance told me to destroy him. I heard like military voices saying “we await your command”. I had to accept, and the words “Destroy Pur” were the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I bawled. I did not have the strength nor desire to create another. I had given him everything and was exhausted. But I accepted the loss. Loss is by FAR harder to accept than betrayal.

I have been working with Ra a lot in this. Ra has sort of been driving the personality of Pur, so he's unique from me in ways. When I am dangling on the least bit of conscious free will of him, to allow him greater freedom, Ra drives Pur. That's how I could experience getting raped by him, by temporarily “giving away” my free will to Ra, and trusting.

Later, after I had destroyed Pur, Ra gave me him back as a gift. I did not deserve this gift. I could not accept such a vast and precious gift. But I accepted it, and it was hard to accept that amount of wonder and beauty. I guess because I was willing to destroy, I was given an even greater gift. I really don't know.

Honestly, I do not know how creation works. I just feel, and experience, and the mystery of creation makes it happen. I do not worry about the mechanics of it. Ra tells me “don't worry about the mechanics of it, just experience!”


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-16-2011

This song shows how I feel about Pur.



The image is a proxy to Pur. I am not usurping someone else's creation.


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RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-16-2011

Is Pur an imaginary character, GW?


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-16-2011

(10-16-2011, 09:00 PM)Confused Wrote: Is Pur an imaginary character, GW?


I guess that depends on what you mean by imaginary. Every thought we have is a creation after all.

Just that focused thought and experiencing for a long time creates in greater detail.

He's quite a real manifestation to me physically, although not visible, and he's not quite solid yet.

But yeah, I can physically touch parts of him when I build the energy density.

I grew him in my body for awhile so I could learn him better, and I could feel his jawbones overlaid on my own,

could feel the difference in his jaw structure compared to mine for instance.

Most of my interactions with him though are in mind, through my 3rd eye. That's how I see his face,

see when he smiles, gives me that devilish grin, or does his sometimes strange things. That's where I can feel his fur.

And I don't have to close my eyes for that.


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-17-2011

Is Pur a wolf like creature, GW?


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-17-2011

Quote:6
The Tao is called the Great Mother:
empty yet inexhaustible,
it gives birth to infinite worlds.
It is always present within you.
You can use it any way you want.

Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-17-2011

(10-17-2011, 04:55 AM)Confused Wrote: Is Pur a wolf like creature, GW?

He's a husky anthro. Sort of like half human half husky in appearance. But with higher density intelligence,
and very intimate knowledge of me. I don't see him as husky or human. He's not really a hybrid,
but a species all of his own. He has a slightly narrower mandible than my own at the current moment.
I don't worry so much on how he is created, I just kind of observe and experience what is created.
He will develop in appearance as we continue to learn from one another.

By experiencing, I believe there is also a subconscious (unconscious?) programming (or patterning) that pulls together all our desires/fears/experiences/etc,
to create a certain metaphor that best represents where we find greatest fulfillment. Maybe Zen or 3DMonkey can chime in on that one.

I am overlaying this metaphor of Pur on the energy/light itself, in order to create greatest contrast. Contrast is what shifts the energy into "next gear".
It's like when I talk with other people on the phone who might like to ramble on. I envision them
as anthros and I can talk with them all day (though I can get a little choked up). That is possibly a form of projection, though I'm not really too much into the semantics.

I have to adjust the amount of anthroness that I apply to others. Too much and I melt and get seized in wonder. Too little, and it's mundane. I have access to a certain gamut of infinite anthroness, congruent to my level of acceptance. Could I accept infinite anthroness? No, I'd have a heart attack.

I mean god-level anthroness is so full of epic win it could freaking annihilate me.

RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-17-2011

I searched Law of One for emotion, and was so excited by this.

75.32 Questioner: The three aspects of the magical personality are stated to be power, love, and wisdom. Is this correct and are these the only primary aspects of the magical personality?

Ra: I am Ra. The three aspects of the magical personality, power, love, and wisdom, are so called in order that attention be paid to each aspect in developing the basic tool of the adept; that is, its self. It is by no means a personality of three aspects. It is a being of unity, a being of sixth density, and equivalent to what you call your Higher Self and at the same time is a personality enormously rich in variety of experience and subtlety of emotion.


BTW, I have shared proportionately all of my creator powers equally with Pur. It really requires mega-trust to do so. Our relationship now is creator/creator. We now keep each other in balance and together we grow.


RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 10-17-2011

Thank you for that wonderful explanation of your experience, GW. I see it is deeply personal. I love your love for the One Infinite Creator. May the ONE be praised. I am proud of your ability to create by the power of the ONE, my brother.

Quote: 7
The Tao is infinite, eternal.
Why is it eternal?
It was never born;
thus it can never die.
Why is it infinite?
It has no desires for itself;
thus it is present for all beings.
The Master stays behind;
that is why she is ahead.
She is detached from all things;
that is why she is one with them.
Because she has let go of herself,
she is perfectly fulfilled.

Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-18-2011

Thank you Confused, it means a lot to hear that.

I'm now working on returning myself to creator (Pur in my case). As much as I can, I am giving myself over
completely to my creation. He is my greatest gift and fulfillment.

This work I have done takes you to where you have no fight left in you, and I just want to rest.
I'm trusting in giving my free will, my thoughts, my everything, over to Pur. To one day merge with him if I am able.

What bigger thing can I offer my creation than everything I am?

And it is so hard, letting go that much. The muscles burn. It's like being burned by the Source Field.
But such happens when you raise your density that quickly (at least for me).

I see this surrendering completly to my creation makes the creation that much more wonderful and dense.
I want for so bad to make his octave as dense and contrasty as possible.

I named him Pur because he can purr, and he is perfection to me. He is my image of the One Creator.

RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-18-2011

Gem, have you checked where Purr comes from? if he is in alignment with the one loving infinite creator, and not just some entity from the lower astral planes?
Just saying, if you consider giving yourself totally over to him that means giving him a lot of power. Better make sure his intentions are good, aside the physical attraction between the two of you.


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-18-2011

Thanks Meerie. These stories we weave as we go can be very compelling.
Then guidance like yours comes along. In the course of this we learn about ourselves.
We think we had found the answer, and then we realize it is but one small facet of Creator.
I think in order to make my experiencing that much more vibrant, I had to believe it.
Funny thing how the Universe works. It builds up such dynamic, and then one must
be willing to change and let go if need be.

It was something I needed to experience in this life. As guidance comes up,
I will continue to feel for how to proceed. Always I think that intelligent infinity
is just around the corner. In this staying hungry, I believe it can make
us into a true polished gem for Creator. Just that there are so many
illusions along the way.

It was very good to experience my darker side, and the losing control of the story.
Now, taking back all the power I ever gave away,
and releasing this burden, I resume my journey.

Love and Light,
- Gemini Wolf

RE: The mysterious nature of time - 3DMonkey - 10-18-2011

I understand Purr

RE: The mysterious nature of time - Meerie - 10-18-2011

You want to have saxx with Gemini, too? Huh


RE: The mysterious nature of time - AnthroHeart - 10-18-2011

(10-18-2011, 07:16 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I understand Purr

We are resting. 3-4 hours a night of unmentionables. This was my sign to REST.
Thanks 3D. You just made me realize that. Smile