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RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Adonai One - 04-21-2014
This material is a beginning of a seeking. It is not the fulfillment of reading its words that brought me to truth but the practice of its methodology that brought me to an understanding of the self.
Are we not all things in truths and doctrines? Then is it truly necessary to find what is already known within the self? Or should we explore what cannot usually be given to ourselves in knowledge? Seeking is a way to explore the self but to seek the scepter of truth is to find that there is little that can bring true knowing other than the revelation of the self to the self.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Nicholas - 04-26-2014
This material for me was the 'final frontier' in my seeking. Awakened to our spiritual nature in 2001 I became enthusiastic in sharing this 'truth' and was baffled by other people not getting it. I quickly realised that our perceptions are the reflections of our experiences compounded by the social distortions or pre defined explanations of them upon query. This left me feeling rather alone and marooned back then when I knew there was so much more to reality than what was being admitted to. The Ra Material for me yields greater clarity and understanding than any bible, scrolls, tablets combined. I became psychotic when I was 24 from abstaining from drug abuse and in retrospect I see that as an incarnate catalyst in awakening. I did not even understand what I was babbling on about back then and found comfort in the hermetic arts through the 'Qabalah'. In book 1 when Ra explain the methods of contact that the one's originally known as Yahwah performed, they described 'The wheel within the wheel and the cherubin with the sleepless eye". My jaw dropped when I read this as my desktop backdrop has this very picture. It was a pendant given to me by a psychic and I saved it to be my desktop picture. This was one of several jaw dropping moments throughout the books. When Ra spoke of Jesus being at the end of 4th density going on to fifth another tingle hit me when I realised my own 'graduation' potential. The metal bending, the orion group's focus on wanderers, Limitless Light, the experience and 'profundity' of intelligent infinity. I played all this down in my life, refusing to admit to being a healer and helper as it brought a real burden upon me. Then I read the Law of One and that burden was lifted from my shoulders when I realised that there were lots of us here and not just the odd one here and there. I regained my 'mojo' so to speak and I am soo grateful to Don, Carla and Jim's work. -_-
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Ben - 06-01-2014
A few years ago I stumbled on this material. From day one I had to read all of it, I could not stop. It resonates with something so deep in my heart and touched me.
I gave it to some good friends and family-members, but there was not the same heavy impact and I do respect that.
Very often go back to the Ra material an check something what has been said.
I have a christian background, do not go to the Pentacostal church anymore, but very strange: I felt that I have come very close to All that is. Jesus and Buddha (yes both) still gives me the power to live my life op planet Earth.
All is One / the Law of One
This text kept me going the last years:
In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma. (17.20 Ra material)
sending light and love to the people op LLresearch, grateful for your work!
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - reeay - 06-01-2014
(04-18-2014, 06:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote: That resonates with the third eye rie. Confirmation tone above head and synchronicities reinforcing the idea. 11:11
Cheers to dear friend, zenmaster. The man who so generously shared his time, his knowledge, and his humor (and his paleo diet lol) to those who wanted to learn about self and the Ra Material, or just wanted to lulz. He's not alone in this respect - amazing people come together around the Ra Material, like thru this forum.
Ra Material is a delightful catalyst (positive and negative). So I believe in the process that the Ra Material offers, not particularly the material itself.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - isis - 06-01-2014
(06-01-2014, 06:55 PM)reeay Wrote:"Confirmation tone above head" lol(04-18-2014, 06:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote: That resonates with the third eye rie. Confirmation tone above head and synchronicities reinforcing the idea. 11:11
Cheers to dear friend, zenmaster. The man who so generously shared his time, his knowledge, and his humor (and his paleo diet lol) to those who wanted to learn about self and the Ra Material, or just wanted to lulz. He's not alone in this respect - amazing people come together around the Ra Material, like thru this forum.
Ra Material is a delightful catalyst (positive and negative). So I believe in the process that the Ra Material offers, not particularly the material itself.
cheers
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - native - 06-02-2014
(06-01-2014, 06:55 PM)reeay Wrote: Cheers to dear friend, zenmaster.
You speak as if he is gone, not to return. Where has he been by the way?
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - reeay - 06-02-2014
(06-02-2014, 09:44 PM)Icaro Wrote:(06-01-2014, 06:55 PM)reeay Wrote: Cheers to dear friend, zenmaster.
You speak as if he is gone, not to return. Where has he been by the way?
I was merely 'handwaving'/saluting him... but he's been gone for a while, yeah.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Adonai One - 06-02-2014
If I wanted to name one material that should never be introduced to a cult of religious fanatics, this would be the one. The worst concept to distort is the ideal of absolute unity because to distort this is to great a mental trap that will take enormous effort to fix, with the greatest distortion being the negative polarity.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Melissa - 06-03-2014
I believe in oneness and that the purpose of all learning material and (spiritual) teachings is to become obsolete.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - AnthroHeart - 06-03-2014
Even if I didn't have the Ra material, I've still believed that it's possible to have telepathic connection with an ET. I discovered this before I found the Ra material.
Without the Ra material, I might not have had my schizophrenic episodes. Or I may have still had them, but they would have been different, as my beliefs would have been different. I wouldn't have worried about getting harvested negative. That's the greatest fear I've ever had in my life. Without the Ra material I wouldn't have that fear. I tend to feel energy densely in my solar plexus, and that worries me even more.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - 4Dsunrise - 09-22-2016
To Nick Thomas's Q -- Why do you believe in the Ra material? And he was seeking some valid input from others for which there was plenty of.
Just to be a pain I would turn it around and have the believers ask the doubters -- "Why do you NOT believe in the Ra material?" or "Why should you NOT believe in the Ra material?"
Actually that begs the Q for the doubter to ask the believer "Why SHOULD I believe in the Ra material?" The believer, being a pain the 2nd time around, might ask "Why SHOULDN'T you believe in the Ra material?"
Aside from free will and choice as the usual response how would these Q's be answered?
Just having fun with this 2 year old thread. :-)
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Minyatur - 09-22-2016
Quite an interesting thread, for me it was simply the manner in which it spoke to me that was unlike any other things I read. It did not give information for me to just think about but instead literally keys to my soul.
I also found awareness of Ra within myself, so I'd have a hard time denying their existence now just like I'd have a hard time denying the existence of someone I know irl. I think here it's often a matter of whether you desire to know or not, those who seek to connect will and those who don't won't.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - AnthroHeart - 09-22-2016
Because Infinity being the Source of All That Is made so much sense to me.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Infinite - 09-22-2016
Hi. I've a lot of reasons. I belive too that the Ra Material is the source closest of the Truth in planet now. In the last seven years I studied a lot of esoteric philosophies and movements (like Theosophy, Gnosis, etc), magick systems, secret societies, religions, fringe informations (like ufology, conspiracy theories, etc.), etc. The information core of "The Ra Material" is the SAME of this others sources but we have here less distortions, a better development of the concepts, greater clarity, and some "updates" to ancient terms and concepts (STO, STS, densities, the Harvest and the itself Law of One). Another reason is the attitudes of Ra. Ra is humble, admits his mistakes, is loving and is possible feel the higher vibrations of the message. Peace, love and light.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Ashim - 09-22-2016
(09-22-2016, 03:10 PM)Infinite Wrote: Hi. I've a lot of reasons. I belive too that the Ra Material is the source closest of the Truth in planet now. In the last seven years I studied a lot of esoteric philosophies and movements (like Theosophy, Gnosis, etc), magick systems, secret societies, religions, fringe informations (like ufology, conspiracy theories, etc.), etc. The information core of "The Ra Material" is the SAME of this others sources but we have here less distortions, a better development of the concepts, greater clarity, and some "updates" to ancient terms and concepts (STO, STS, densities, the Harvest and the itself Law of One). Another reason is the attitudes of Ra. Ra is humble, admits his mistakes, is loving and is possible feel the higher vibrations of the message. Peace, love and light.
Yes, my feelings too.
Ra often used the term "transient". A leaning towards wisdom I sense.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=transient
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - BlatzAdict - 09-22-2016
(03-27-2011, 06:57 AM)nwthomas Wrote: I believe that the claims in the Ra material are true. Yet, there is no proof that this is so. I am sure that many people on this forum are in the same boat as I. I have previously given an explanation of why I hold this belief. But, I am more interested right now in hearing others' explanations, to gather more perspectives on this important issue. Why do you believe in the Ra material?
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That's kind of the crux isn't it, that there was stuff written that was not proven, and then it was proven later. There are tons of things in the Law of One proven, and wilcock pretty much does most of the job showing all the points that have been proven true. Nassiem Haramein also goes into greath length mathematically why all is one. Definitely an interesting talk, long but it's the full lecture.
most people tell me this is too long.. meh i don't really care, it's been around since 2007. if it's important to you, then you make time for it with your free will, if it's not important to you, then it will end up ignored. i'm okay with that =̴̶̷̤̄ .̫ =̴̶̷̤̄
as always take whatever you may resonate with, and ignore pretty much whatever i'm saying that you don't feel you agree with <3
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Nicholas - 09-22-2016
(09-22-2016, 12:23 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: To Nick Thomas's Q -- Why do you believe in the Ra material? And he was seeking some valid input from others for which there was plenty of.
Just to be a pain I would turn it around and have the believers ask the doubters -- "Why do you NOT believe in the Ra material?" or "Why should you NOT believe in the Ra material?"
Actually that begs the Q for the doubter to ask the believer "Why SHOULD I believe in the Ra material?" The believer, being a pain the 2nd time around, might ask "Why SHOULDN'T you believe in the Ra material?"
Aside from free will and choice as the usual response how would these Q's be answered?
Just having fun with this 2 year old thread. :-)
I would put very little energy into this because of it's circular, ping pong, get nowhere despite the mental stimulation (fun). In other words, to my mind there is no should or should not. I have many moments of "I should be doing this" or "I should't be doing that", but I have just turned 40 and I am growing weary of the self judgement, because ultimately it is like the mental projection we call the universe, valuable in it's offering but ultimately illusory.
So I would point to the Ra material as a way of empowering the individual so that one day, if taken seriously, will transcend the enquirer beyond the limits of belief. Actually, in a having a bit of fun kind of way I quite like the
double entendre in that very sceptical statement, "But it's beyond belief!?"...
Quote:10.12 Questioner: Then although many entities are not aware of this, what they really desire is to accelerate their growth, and it is their job to discover this while incarnate. Is it correct that they can accelerate their growth much more while incarnate in third density than in between incarnations of this density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. We shall attempt to speak upon this concept.
The Law of One has as one of its primal distortions the free will distortion, thus each entity is free to accept, reject, or ignore the mind/body/spirit complexes about it and ignore the creation itself. There are many among your social memory complex distortion who, at this time/space, engage daily, as you would put it, in the working upon the Law of One in one of its primal distortions; that is, the ways of love. However, if this same entity, being biased from the depths of its mind/body/spirit complex towards love/light, were then to accept responsibility for each moment of the time/space accumulation of present moments available to it, such an entity can empower its progress in much the same way as we described the empowering of the call of your social complex distortion to the Confederation.
...Yep, it is indeed an act of faith!
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - BlatzAdict - 09-22-2016
(04-09-2011, 09:32 AM)Edinburgh Wrote:(04-09-2011, 05:57 AM)Spectrum Wrote: I find this quote most applicable to the times we live in, with 'spiritual teachers' -
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From Idries Shah, The Sufi:
The false teacher will keep his followers around him all the time, will not tell them that they are being given a training which must end as soon as possible, and will not give them the opportunity to taste their development themselves and carry on as fulfilled people.
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Exactly, this is why I immediately felt the Ra material felt right. It was all there, with the keys given to you. Simple truths that at first seemed "too simple". But after re-reading and trying to really live in love, from the perspective of the creator, I knew it was the right thing to do.
These spiritual teachers we see everywhere now, never tell you this simple truth ... instead its hours of talks and books ... that keep you close to the truth ... but never access the real "simple" truth: to live in love, every moment, every day.
However, at the end of the day, if people seek a spiritual teacher and gain some benefit from him/ her, then that's good too. As Ra said, "There are no mistakes".
not every teacher is as bad as that description! lol i would hope i don't do that lol.. jeesh.. but i have experienced people who teach in that style, out of lack rather than abundance. Being ready to look for fraud, implies that you are manifesting a situation to show itself to you in that way. I think Ra said something similar about STO ETS providing an abduction type situation based on what the contactee was expecting.
A saying really sticks out at me in attempting to not look at anyone who would earnestly look to open their heart, I suppose it would make me feel bad to be in the situation across someone who is arguably STS, but earnestly seeking towards STO, if I was not present and non judgemental, I'd feel like I was already trying to fight fire with fire.
Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.
Felix
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Ashim - 09-22-2016
RE: World Orion Seek to Destroy Humanity? - Wetsun202 - 09-23-2016
Am I the only one beginning to find this ridiculous? I mean, aliens? I feel like if there was extraterrestrial life, we'd have seen it by now. But instead we're going to take the word from something who no one can prove exists. We're just supposed take the word from some broad who wrote some dialogue. Do you guys realize that is exactly how movies and plays are written?
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Jade - 09-23-2016
What has brought you here, Wetsun? Aliens are kind of our whole shtick, if that doesn't resonate with you, this is probably not a philosophy that you can work with easily.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Ashim - 09-24-2016
It woz the aliens wot dunnit.
An ET plan, like in....
Planet.
If you are in a career you might not have taken the time to plan it.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - BlatzAdict - 09-24-2016
i always thought aliens were real i mean i thought it was normal my whole life, it's everyone else that's wierd. i saw a ufo when i was in 2nd grade in my backyard driveway, and i was like whooaaaaaa at the time and then i just thought man i knew they were always real. Once you see a UFO for yourself it's kind of moot at that point. I've seen ones that light up like a star even in a bright noon day, and ones that were kind of dark flying around real quickly. I just stopped thinking about trying to conceptualize how their societies would interact with each other as a prerequisite for galactic life. It was LOO that helped me to actualize that knowing, what millions of years will do to a civilization as a whole in terms of wisdom, love, and knowing.
There is a very strict adherence to the laws of free will, and the observance of all mindbodyspirit entities that are incarnate in part observed by a spiritual hierarchy of incarnate and discarnate beings who care for the benefit of all, within the limits of free will. So I guess because it was never a problem with me, it was okay to have those experiences. For someone who may have trouble I suppose the universe will conspire to show more nothing, in response to your condition. All conditions are made by humanity. It is up to you to peel back the veil that you impose on yourself. I love you and may you find your way.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - YinYang - 09-24-2016
Okay so I've never seen a UFO, but are you guys at all familiar with the Zimbabwe school incident? It happened in 1994 during break time, and the school ground was full of kids. So they said (62 of them, aged between 5 and 12) that a UFO landed and aliens got out and communicated with them telepathically.
They were all interviewed on video, and they drew pictures. Today they're all grown up, and not one of them has changed their story.
The Zimbabwe School Close Encounter
You can Google it and watch the interviews done at the time, they were interviewed on video again recently. If you Google it you can also see the pictures they've drawn.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - BlatzAdict - 09-24-2016
just after i finished reading Law of One, i asked to see one.
and the one i saw lit up bright like a star, in the middle of the day just like this, though i had the pleasure to see just one, here is umm a whole bunch of them.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - YinYang - 09-24-2016
Quote:here is umm a whole bunch of them
Sheesh! Why is it always Mexico?
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - herald - 09-24-2016
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a: "These craft are constructed one by one in two locations: in the desert or arid regions of your so-called New Mexico and in the desert or arid regions of your so-called Mexico, both installations being under the ground".
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RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - YinYang - 09-24-2016
Yeah that did cross my mind, there are just such abundant footage coming from Mexico!
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - BlatzAdict - 09-24-2016
(09-24-2016, 01:24 PM)YinYang Wrote:Quote:here is umm a whole bunch of them
Sheesh! Why is it always Mexico?
In Mexico there is a dedicated UFO tv show that has been airing for years and because more of the population is usually more accepting of extraterrestrials, they get more sightings.
From my understanding, these groups scan the consciousness of each and every individual in an area and their, disposition to it. It's all in line with, the observance of free will.
On the flip side, there are a lot of underground nazi bases in south america too... and they have ufos too.. , but they don't light up like that, they usually have these black triangles with lights that kinda look like aircraft but change positions to change the light signature and seem like a 747 at night.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Infinite - 09-24-2016
(09-23-2016, 10:06 PM)Wetsun202 Wrote: Am I the only one beginning to find this ridiculous? I mean, aliens? I feel like if there was extraterrestrial life, we'd have seen it by now. But instead we're going to take the word from something who no one can prove exists. We're just supposed take the word from some broad who wrote some dialogue. Do you guys realize that is exactly how movies and plays are written?
Hi. I respect your opinion. But, we have a lot of evidences of an extraterrestrial visitation to the Earth. I won't talk about religious, historical or archaeological context. I'll talk about PHYSICAL EVIDENCES. That is, FACTS.
First, this a documentary with the Dr. Roger K. Leir (deceased in 2014). He was the the world largest specialist in alien implants removal. The material of the implants was checked as not belonging to Earth. Again, PHYSICAL EVIDENCES:
Here we've a lecture of Budd Hospinks held here in Brasil. Beyond some pictures of various physical evidences we've drawings made by abduction victims that remember of the experience. Among these there are some drawings made by children (which discards bad faith or fraud):
Here in Brasil, happended in 1977, the BIGGEST EVENT OF WORLD UFOLOGY. The case occurred in municipalities away from the State of Maranhão. People were injured with light rays emitted by UFO's. The rays produced burns and skin perforations. Were injured and killed. As in all these cases there was a great involvement of the army and several untrue stories to cover up the phenomenon. The case was knowded as "The Operation Plate". Here a video about the event:
A OFFICIAL LINK of Brazilian Air Force with pictures of the UFO's:
http://www.fenomenum.com.br/ufo/governos/documentos/brasil/prato/fotografias_op_prato.pdf
If you're follower of materialism and do not believe in other dimensions also already there is evidence, including laboratory.
Dr. Karl Osis, director of the ASPR (American Society of Psychic Research) demonstrates a laboratorial test, in which Alex Tanous, the famous astral projector, can identify a composite symbol inside a machine, put at several different positions, in a random sequence, with some rooms between Tanous and the machine. Note that you need spy exactly at the right point to see the symbol inside the machine, it is not possible see it from another position. This shows that is is note a “mind perception”, when the observer is not “point-located”. This scene appears at 1h 17' in the classic documentary by Rolf Olsen "Journey into the Beyond". The video:
At long last, THE UFOLOGY IS NOT A FAIRYTALE. IT'S NOT JUST BELIEFS. NONE FRAUD SURVIVE FOR SO LONG. There are a lot of physical evidence. Adding to the material posted the countless video recordings and photos of UFO's, anecdotal evidence of abduction, testimonials of military, memories of extraterrestrials lives, visits to other planets, etc., etc., etc., the Ra information do not seem so absurd. Open your mind. Seek knowledge. Use your hearth too. Sorry if my english is not so good. Peace, love and light.