(04-06-2012, 01:14 PM)Lulu Wrote:

(04-04-2012, 01:48 PM)Ashim Wrote: ...and others are taken to a safe place.

Yes, I've seen these "safe" places. I don't recommend that choice!

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(04-04-2012, 01:48 PM)Ashim Wrote: Many underestimate the shock that can be caused if an unprepared human starts to see huge floating cities in the skies. Ships as large as entire countries. Literally millions of craft filling the sky.
For this reason some will be re-located with no dis-comfort to themselves.
Their memories of these events leading up to Harvest will only be accessable for the person in higher densities. Memory implants are used to move the person very rapidly through the 3rd density experience. This is where all the talk about 'chambers' and '3 days' comes from.
The person can be healed and brought to full consciousness in an astoundingly short time. Remember outside of earth (and inside) it IS already the 'future'.

I haven't decided which part of that whole thing is the most disturbing.

The ships are already all around us, correct or no?

Either we just haven't merged collectively with the dimension in which to see them consistently.

OR....

You know how a FAN blade can't be seen when it is moving fast.... and how a Helicopter Propeller can't be seen when it is moving fast. That is probably all they had to do to Cloak themselves. Something as simple as that.

I 'failed' my implant and so-called "healing" --by choice of course. In other words, I am unprogrammable.

Lulu

(06-18-2012, 08:51 AM)Patrick Wrote: Here is my understanding of it.

Consciousness is the Presence behind the mind, it's not the mind itself. In our case this consciousness is individuated and this is what we call the spirit. The mind could be described as being our ego. This is why we are not the mind alone, we are the spirit/mind/body all wrapped up.

Animals have consciousness too, but it's not individuated. They are not enspirited yet. It is our spirit (our individuated consciousness) that gives us our self-awareness.

So in this case it is our consciousness without the ego that walks the steps of light.

(06-19-2012, 12:54 PM)Siren Wrote: Ego in Latin simply means I.

It is a shame most people attribute this term with negative connotations.

(06-19-2012, 12:54 PM)Siren Wrote: Ego in Latin simply means I.

It is a shame most people attribute this term with negative connotations.

(07-09-2012, 09:02 PM)kdsii Wrote: Because many spiritual seekers want to attain pure awareness, the ego is self-created, and is the little voice of fear in your head.
The percieved separation of the self from the Creator, other selves, or the all-that-is, is where the ego lives.

(07-10-2012, 02:14 PM)Richard Wrote: "How is one to harvested?"

For all the theorizing, no one really knows.

Just need to wait and see.

Richard

(07-10-2012, 02:27 PM)kdsii Wrote: Great choice of words to explain a planetary shift.
You can also 'harvest' a kidney from an unlucky kidnapped tourist in Bangkok.
I think I would have used the word Shift, with a capital S

[quote='Richard' pid='91185' dateline='1341944088']
"How is one to harvested?"

For all the theorizing, no one really knows.

Just need to wait and see.

Richard

(07-10-2012, 02:47 PM)Richard Wrote:

(07-10-2012, 02:27 PM)kdsii Wrote: Great choice of words to explain a planetary shift.
You can also 'harvest' a kidney from an unlucky kidnapped tourist in Bangkok.
I think I would have used the word Shift, with a capital S

[quote='Richard' pid='91185' dateline='1341944088']
"How is one to harvested?"

For all the theorizing, no one really knows.

Just need to wait and see.

Richard

Harvest and Shift are 2 completely different phenomena. Harvest as pertaining to the destination or placement of your soul after physical death (as per the Law of One) and Shift (as per general consensus..it seems) referring to an earthly change in thought patterns.

I don't see the 2 as interchangeable.

Current topic of this ongoing conversation notwithstanding, the original question posited was " How are we to be harvested?". That was what I was answering.

Richard

(07-10-2012, 04:59 PM)kdsii Wrote: ** How is one to be harvested? You die NATURALLY. And then you INCARNATE in the fresh, bran spankin new 4D Earth. **

(07-10-2012, 05:14 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: At 35 years old I am asking did I reaaaaaly need to be here in 3D to help the harvest?

(07-10-2012, 04:59 PM)kdsii Wrote: ** How is one to be harvested? You die NATURALLY. And then you INCARNATE in the fresh, bran spankin new 4D Earth. **

(07-10-2012, 05:25 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm glad it's doing some good.
Because the vibrations are uncomfortable to me at this current time.
I feel restless and anxious.
But at least I have a love of life again, and not down that dark path I was in before.

(07-10-2012, 05:21 PM)kdsii Wrote: Supposedly a planet's Harvest (particularaly this one, with its famous history) is a very great honor/duty to aid in, so there is/was a great influx of higher-plane energies coming here.
You may have been one of them.

(07-10-2012, 02:55 PM)kdsii Wrote: Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions toward longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex.

This always sounded to me, as if Ra were to suggest, 'don't bother working towards a longer life in 3D, because at this point in time, it's not going to be anyway'

(07-10-2012, 02:55 PM)kdsii Wrote: The Harvest and the shift on Earth both refer to a shift into 4D vibrations. Hand in hand.

(07-10-2012, 08:27 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(07-10-2012, 02:55 PM)kdsii Wrote: Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions toward longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex.

This always sounded to me, as if Ra were to suggest, 'don't bother working towards a longer life in 3D, because at this point in time, it's not going to be anyway'

I don't think that's quite what Ra meant. Prolonging lifespan does not prevent death by all other causes than old age. Since each life requires some measure of time to begin to work on polarization - refining their 'violet-ray energy field' - and the confluence of energies is during the end of the major cycle at this harvest, one might miss that window if they had to reincarnate.

(07-10-2012, 02:55 PM)kdsii Wrote: The Harvest and the shift on Earth both refer to a shift into 4D vibrations. Hand in hand.

Harvest is a term used for transfer to a new body at a new space/time location, typically to a new density. Remember, it happens at the end of the minor cycles as well but not the confluence of energies. Interestingly, Ra also said Martians were 'harvested' to Earth.

(07-11-2012, 09:02 AM)Patrick Wrote: It's quite simple.

For all that are incarnated right now. When you die you will walk the steps of light and be placed where you should. This illusion is not going to stop abruptly.

The harvest has already occurred in 2011. That is why so many are awakening. Just live your life here and now and don't worry about anything.

EDIT: Well I got a Left-Ear Tone after posting this. So I guess I'm wrong.

(07-11-2012, 12:15 PM)Richard Wrote:

(07-11-2012, 09:02 AM)Patrick Wrote: It's quite simple.

For all that are incarnated right now. When you die you will walk the steps of light and be placed where you should. This illusion is not going to stop abruptly.

The harvest has already occurred in 2011. That is why so many are awakening. Just live your life here and now and don't worry about anything.

EDIT: Well I got a Left-Ear Tone after posting this. So I guess I'm wrong.

Or you got a piece of wax nestling against your eardrum

But, yep...this is how I see it working also. Live...pass on...harvest occurs sometime after or not.. according to your choice or life plan.

But its true, KD. "Harvest" was an unfortunate choice of a word to describe this process. Its a bit impersonal...but then Ra isn't the most personable of character (s) either.

Richard

(07-11-2012, 10:30 PM)Ebennett Wrote: so we must die in oder to be harvested?

(07-12-2012, 09:35 AM)Patrick Wrote: It's important to remember that there is no death. It's just a transition from space/time to time/space. And like Ra said, the only difference with the harvest is that you walk the steps of light so that you go to the proper time/space for your continuing advancement.

(07-12-2012, 09:52 AM)Patrick Wrote: That is why Ra said that the transition takes in between 100 to 700 years.

When you "die" if you go to 4d time/space, this "time" location could be 700 years in our future and you incarnate in space/time then.

(07-12-2012, 09:55 AM)Ebennett Wrote: will our physical bodies die? - attract a situation where they physical bodies dies off or is it just gradual transition to a 4D body?

(07-12-2012, 09:55 AM)Ebennett Wrote: will our physical bodies die? - attract a situation where they physical bodies dies off or is it just gradual transition to a 4D body?

Quote:63.13 Questioner: Now these entities incarnate into a third-density vibratory body. As… I am trying to understand how this transition takes place from third to fourth density. I will take the example of one of these entities of which we are speaking who is now in a third-density body. He will grow older and then will it be necessary that he die from the third-density physical body and reincarnate in a fourth-density body for that transition?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are those incarnating with what you may call a double body in activation. It will be noted that the entities birthing these fourth-density entities experience a great feeling of, shall we say, the connection and the use of spiritual energies during pregnancy. This is due to the necessity for manifesting the double body.

This transitional body is one which will be, shall we say, able to appreciate fourth-density vibratory complexes as the instreaming increases without the accompanying disruption of the third-density body. If a third-density entity were, shall we say, electrically aware of fourth-density in full, the third-density electrical fields would fail due to incompatibility.

To answer your query about death, these entities will die according to third-density necessities.

Quote:63.14 Questioner: The— you are saying, then, that for the transition from third to fourth density for one of the entities with doubly activated bodies, in order to make the transition the third-density body will go through the process of what we call death. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The third and fourth, combination, density’s body will die according to the necessity of third-density mind/body/spirit complex distortions.

We may respond to the heart of your questioning by noting that the purpose of such combined activation of mind/body/spirit complexes is that such entities, to some extent, consciously are aware of those fourth-density understandings which third density is unable to remember due to the forgetting. Thus fourth-density experience may be begun with the added attraction to an entity oriented towards service to others of dwelling in a troubled third-density environment and offering its love and compassion.