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RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Tenet Nosce - 11-13-2012
(11-12-2012, 09:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote: My understanding is that more attaining 5SD simply means more opportunity to express "5SD vibratory rates". Because each in that subdensity, in addition to drawing from the vibration as a resource of mind, would be contributing some pioneering aspect of themselves due to their necessary uniqueness.
Yes, but this doesn't quite get at what I am trying to convey. The idea is that when a Wanderer "packs their bags" so to speak, they can only bring so much with them. The thought is that the further back into 3D they go, the less they would be able to bring. In other words, a Wanderer incarnating into 1SD/3D would be much more restricted than one incarnating into 4SD/3D.
The question- and I recognize we probably don't have the answer from the material- is if the incarnation of the Wanderer spans through a transition from one dominant sub-density to the next, are they able to reach back and "grab more stuff" so to speak? Or are they stuck with whatever they packed before their journey for the entire incarnation?
Quote:The spiral of development keeps going, although it is difficult and unlikely to make much progress into the lessons of the next subdensity without having use of (having had use of) the corresponding body/mind complex. Also would seem to be difficult without the pioneering efforts of others in the societal complex as there is less to inform experience. However, my understanding is that when opportunity is lacking in society, yet one is accepting responsibility, the imbalance is stands out and aid is made available in some form.
I wonder what comes after the turquoise vMeme, and if turquoise started 30 years ago, just 20 years after yellow... then why hasn't the next level presented itself yet?
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Karl - 11-13-2012
Will 4d earth have "3d animals"? 2d Animals?
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Goldenratio - 11-13-2012
Reminds of an old porno for pyros song "we'll make great pets"
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Tenet Nosce - 11-13-2012
(11-13-2012, 05:41 PM)Karl Wrote: Will 4d earth have "3d animals"? 2d Animals?
Oh, I think there are already many 4D entities which sort of think of us as their pets. (Oh what a cute little human! Look at you sharing your toys with your playmates... you must be a smart one!)
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Spaced - 11-13-2012
(11-13-2012, 08:14 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(11-13-2012, 05:41 PM)Karl Wrote: Will 4d earth have "3d animals"? 2d Animals?
Oh, I think there are already many 4D entities which sort of think of us as their pets. (Oh what a cute little human! Look at you sharing your toys with your playmates... you must be a smart one!)
Reminds me of La Planète Sauvage
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Karl - 11-14-2012
If we're their pets all-ready I want more pet-toys
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Tenet Nosce - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 08:04 AM)Karl Wrote: If we're their pets all-ready I want more pet-toys
LOL! Actually, I think that can be easily arranged, so long as one understands that collecting the most "pet-toys" is not the purpose of life. But not until then.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
Thank goodness I'm not domesticated.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Cyan - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 12:54 PM)rie Wrote: Thank goodness I'm not domesticated.
I dunno, i think using the shower and toilets was an easy thing to learn.
Doing the loundry and brushing the floors is more difficult.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 01:07 PM)Cyan Wrote: I dunno, i think using the shower and toilets was an easy thing to learn.
Doing the loundry and brushing the floors is more difficult.
yes we need potty training classes
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Cyan - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 01:39 PM)rie Wrote:(11-14-2012, 01:07 PM)Cyan Wrote: I dunno, i think using the shower and toilets was an easy thing to learn.
Doing the loundry and brushing the floors is more difficult.
yes we need potty training classes
I think a nap is what we need.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 01:40 PM)Cyan Wrote: I think a nap is what we need.
I thought 3D was one quick nap with vivid dream and sometimes nightmare-ish but generally intense dream.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Cyan - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 03:13 PM)rie Wrote:(11-14-2012, 01:40 PM)Cyan Wrote: I think a nap is what we need.
I thought 3D was one quick nap with vivid dream and sometimes nightmare-ish but generally intense dream.
Nap naaap nap nap nap naaaap naaap nap nap nap naaap naap nap nap nap nap naa nap naa nap naaaaaaa!
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
Chicken haha
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Cyan - 11-14-2012
I can assure you, Mrs Rie-Bread. That it was a song not a chicken.
Cant fore the life of me rememeber what song though.
But thats funny on its.
Life of me...
HAH
doesnt apply in Ra-space does it, "life of me"
What is this life you speak of...
Anyway. No, not a chicken. A song.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Horuseus - 11-14-2012
I want some of what you guys are smoking.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
lol@mrs rie-bread.
the name 'rie' is pronounced like reification
for the life of me, i should change my name to ms. reify
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Cyan - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 04:10 PM)Horuseus Wrote: I want some of what you guys are smoking.
Fine, get me a green card and put me in colorado and give me 3 months.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 04:31 PM)Cyan Wrote:(11-14-2012, 04:10 PM)Horuseus Wrote: I want some of what you guys are smoking.
Fine, get me a green card and put me in colorado and give me 3 months.
You could also go to Washington
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Cyan - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 04:32 PM)rie Wrote:(11-14-2012, 04:31 PM)Cyan Wrote:(11-14-2012, 04:10 PM)Horuseus Wrote: I want some of what you guys are smoking.
Fine, get me a green card and put me in colorado and give me 3 months.
You could also go to Washington
You try living next to sauron. One giant flaming .... sheath... of an eye in the sky.
sorry thought you meant the other Washington. Didnt realise you were probably referring to the one north of cali and south of canada.
Anyway, I'm game, get me a green card and a company that will officially oversee me and label it a technology learning job and i'm there.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - AnthroHeart - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 04:31 PM)Cyan Wrote:(11-14-2012, 04:10 PM)Horuseus Wrote: I want some of what you guys are smoking.
Fine, get me a green card and put me in colorado and give me 3 months.
A few months ago I had a mental breakdown and was about to leave my job and home and move to colorado thinking I was in "heaven" and that I had died. I would have lost everything, and in the state I was in probably my life as well.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - reeay - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 04:33 PM)Cyan Wrote: Anyway, I'm game, get me a green card and a company that will officially oversee me and label it a technology learning job and i'm there.
Why not countries like New Zealand and Canada?
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Karl - 11-14-2012
(11-14-2012, 11:18 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:The purpose of life is inevitable. I'd like pet-toys while it's inevitibalizing.(11-14-2012, 08:04 AM)Karl Wrote: If we're their pets all-ready I want more pet-toys
LOL! Actually, I think that can be easily arranged, so long as one understands that collecting the most "pet-toys" is not the purpose of life. But not until then.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Oriole - 11-16-2012
(11-01-2012, 05:00 PM)rie Wrote: So are we collectively ready to let quarantine go and make open contact?
YES, let's go for it!
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - zenmaster - 11-17-2012
(11-13-2012, 04:24 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Yes, however the wanderer brings 'everything' regardless of the local polarizing conditions. The wanderer would have less opportunities, statistically, for access and expression with less mass "at" a particular SD (if they incarnated randomly). Also the constraints provided at the lower subdensities are appropriate for those subdensities.(11-12-2012, 09:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote: My understanding is that more attaining 5SD simply means more opportunity to express "5SD vibratory rates". Because each in that subdensity, in addition to drawing from the vibration as a resource of mind, would be contributing some pioneering aspect of themselves due to their necessary uniqueness.
Yes, but this doesn't quite get at what I am trying to convey. The idea is that when a Wanderer "packs their bags" so to speak, they can only bring so much with them. The thought is that the further back into 3D they go, the less they would be able to bring. In other words, a Wanderer incarnating into 1SD/3D would be much more restricted than one incarnating into 4SD/3D.
Also, as a mind-resource construct, all the subdensities were available here past the first cycle.
(11-13-2012, 04:24 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The question- and I recognize we probably don't have the answer from the material- is if the incarnation of the Wanderer spans through a transition from one dominant sub-density to the next, are they able to reach back and "grab more stuff" so to speak? Or are they stuck with whatever they packed before their journey for the entire incarnation?It's substantially the individual's polarization, not the groups polarization that allows remembering. Society's polarization may provide more opportunities for growth.
(11-13-2012, 04:24 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Coral comes after turquoise, and these are only just emerging. Levels present themselves from the study of distinctly recognizable values and ways of coping. Someone has to make the case for it and this is not an easy thing to do with limited sample size. As you see, not much is even written about turquoise.Quote:The spiral of development keeps going, although it is difficult and unlikely to make much progress into the lessons of the next subdensity without having use of (having had use of) the corresponding body/mind complex. Also would seem to be difficult without the pioneering efforts of others in the societal complex as there is less to inform experience. However, my understanding is that when opportunity is lacking in society, yet one is accepting responsibility, the imbalance is stands out and aid is made available in some form.
I wonder what comes after the turquoise vMeme, and if turquoise started 30 years ago, just 20 years after yellow... then why hasn't the next level presented itself yet?
(11-01-2012, 05:00 PM)rie Wrote: So are we collectively ready to let quarantine go and make open contact?No.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - hogey11 - 11-17-2012
(11-17-2012, 02:15 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-01-2012, 05:00 PM)rie Wrote: So are we collectively ready to let quarantine go and make open contact?No.
Maybe... We don't know how mainland Chinese farmers feel about this. By that I mean the largest populations on the planet go fairly unspoken as far as the loudspeaker of general opinion goes. For all we know, the 'lesser' part of the world's intention is all for spiritual progression into a higher density... I truly think
If what you meant was we shouldn't expect it to just happen because we each need to do it ourselves before the whole is affected, I would agree with that...
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - zenmaster - 11-17-2012
99% of people aren't even experiencing the 7th subdensity. Too many learning opportunities would be crushed by contact. You can't introduce that level of transcendence without prior support of self-determined choices. So no, we are not collectively ready.
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - unir 1 - 11-17-2012
(11-17-2012, 03:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote: 99% of people aren't even experiencing the 7th subdensity. Too many learning opportunities would be crushed by contact. You can't introduce that level of transcendence without prior support of self-determined choices. So no, we are not collectively ready.
What are the sub-densities and those values/memes you have been writing of?
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Sagittarius - 11-18-2012
(11-17-2012, 11:28 PM)unir 1 Wrote:(11-17-2012, 03:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote: 99% of people aren't even experiencing the 7th subdensity. Too many learning opportunities would be crushed by contact. You can't introduce that level of transcendence without prior support of self-determined choices. So no, we are not collectively ready.
What are the sub-densities and those values/memes you have been writing of?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics
RE: When will the Quarantine of Earth be lifted ? - Tenet Nosce - 11-18-2012
(11-17-2012, 11:28 PM)unir 1 Wrote:(11-17-2012, 03:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote: 99% of people aren't even experiencing the 7th subdensity. Too many learning opportunities would be crushed by contact. You can't introduce that level of transcendence without prior support of self-determined choices. So no, we are not collectively ready.
What are the sub-densities and those values/memes you have been writing of?
This is a summary chart of the vMemes, but I don't know how "authoritative" it is. Also- there isn't necessarily a one-to-one correspondence between these and the sub-densities. Although it seems to be a reasonably accurate model, as far as I can tell.
![[Image: spiral_dynamics_aqal_simple.jpg]](http://pialogue.info/definitions/spiral_dynamics_aqal_simple.jpg)
If there is any truth to these stories of underground populations (Agartha, Shambhalla, etc.) that were sundered from the surface population during a cataclysm, a reunion would provide for a sort of "contact" without breaking quarantine.