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RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Wetsun202 - 09-24-2016
Why is it that everyone I know who believe this is too ashamed to own up to it? You believe it alien gods?? Just say so. I find it extremely hard to respect someone/something that for one, doesn't even make any sense, and for two, no one will admit to it. I tried to look into this stuff, but the more I delved in, the worse it became.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Minyatur - 09-24-2016
(09-24-2016, 01:57 PM)Wetsun202 Wrote: Why is it that everyone I know who believe this is too ashamed to own up to it? You believe it alien gods?? Just say so. I find it extremely hard to respect someone/something that for one, doesn't even make any sense, and for two, no one will admit to it. I tried to look into this stuff, but the more I delved in, the worse it became.
I highly doubt you have a non-paradoxal understanding of your reality, whereas I believe this is what many found in the Ra material, an understanding that is not paradoxal with itself.
You seem to believe we humans are the sole inteligence in existence but when you look at galaxies and see countless of them holding billion star systems each, it's hard to not see worlds of light created by designs. People who believe in the Ra material believe in consciousness as the fundation of all things.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - BlatzAdict - 09-24-2016
Did you come here to just prove your opinion or did you come here to learn and expand what you know? So far it sounds like you came here, to prove everyone wrong, because you are right in your mindset. I posit that we are several levels of thought beyond this game. There are far more interesting games to play other than power struggle, energetically draining masculinity contests.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Infinite Unity - 09-24-2016
(09-24-2016, 01:57 PM)Wetsun202 Wrote: Why is it that everyone I know who believe this is too ashamed to own up to it? You believe it alien gods?? Just say so. I find it extremely hard to respect someone/something that for one, doesn't even make any sense, and for two, no one will admit to it. I tried to look into this stuff, but the more I delved in, the worse it became.
They are not so much afraid in telling you, as they are of peoples abusive behaviors. Honestly Instead of laying out a big piece on The Law of One. I will rather just ask what is your beliefs on life/reality?
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Nicholas - 09-24-2016
(09-23-2016, 10:06 PM)Wetsun202 Wrote: Am I the only one beginning to find this ridiculous?
Yep.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Night Owl - 09-25-2016
I have considered myself agnostic for the majority of my life. That has changed when I realised science alone is of no value without understanding what is paradox and what is not. Science usually seeks to measure and describe the already obvious content of life while there is nothing to count in an infinite universe. Life is ever changing and what has been measured and described will change. I compare this to a fish bowl in which we are the fishes and science is trying to measure it's size, it's composition and guess who and how the bowl was build. But what do you do with those informations. They are basically useless. The fish bowl is in another fishbowl into another one. The only important information is why is there a fishbowl in the first place. Even studying the bowl at some point needs some recognition that it has been designed.
The whys are infinitely more important than the hows, the whens and the whos. Science will tell you all of those without having answered a single time to the whys. This is something spirituality is trying to work on without being against science. It's actually going with it when science is focused on the right mindset. The most advanced and life-changing experiments of science (quantum mechanics) are so far proving the Ra material right many years later. It does not matter to me that there are distortions in this message as long as the core message is not paradoxal.
The LOO is not about being right or wrong. All the concepts found in the LOO I found to be right there in the world surrounding me. I speak not from beliefs but experience of these concepts. I didn't really care if those words came from the words of an alien god or the mind of a troubled woman when I started reading this material at first because I wouldn't just believe something. But I realized these concepts are right there that you want it or not. You can use them to help yourself and others or you can stay at the true/false step and not learn a thing from it. If you don't want to learn from it that's also fine, there is lots of science to comfort people.
And now here I am, having absolutely no doubts about the existence of Ra. It's not like I'm going full on trying to prove it to people, it's not very useful to prove something to someone who's not even searching for truth and finds complacency into the medias lies they're being told. I don't feel the need to be validated by other's beliefs. I can't say the same for most science people out there though. Most would rather think what most people think than have themselves a real opinion, and that's true for many religious people as well as science people. Most people think they are right because they think they back up science but they still base their opinions on beliefs that what they are told is true. Nothing really different from a dogma if you ask me and people in power like to use that to their advantage. Most science geniuses like Einstein were not even atheists. Einstein categorized himself as being pantheist which is pretty much exactly what the LOO is. On the opposite, the LOO concept doesn't ask you to believe anything, it's an experiment. You just read and either you connect the dots and learn something or you don't. That's as far as it goes. You can believe these words come from Carla if you want, it doesn't take away anything from the incredible ideas behind it. If you don't like the ideas that's ok too. But why do you need validation from others about what you believe? We aren't here to convince one another about what is truth and what is not.
Without knowing why things go as they go, you basically maintain yourself a slave of circumstances, never realizing the connections between all things, never realizing that all that happens has a reason and a will for it to happen behind it.
If you only seek to disprove the material, you will find lots and lots of ways to do so, but you would end up disproving yourself. We all know here that it is possible to ''stay scientific'' and not believe anything that can't be measured. Yet we are still here, learning everyday, growing and understanding the rules of this universe better than I've seen any ''science people'' do because they can't go past the what's measurable step. You might be surprised how much truth can be found into the most strange places like this one.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - buket - 06-11-2018
(03-27-2011, 02:45 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: 1) There's alot of topics in the Science and Technology section which shows how recent scientific discoveries have proven something Ra said 30 years ago but which wasn't supported by science at the time.
2) There's an underlying logic to everything Ra says that's different from all other spiritual, new age, or philosophical books I've ever read - there's very few seemingly arbitrary statements that don't match up in the big picture, in a way it doesn't even feel like taking it on faith.
3) Many of the things Ra says really resonate with me either because I always believed them even before reading about them anywhere, or they just "make sense" to me when I hear them.
WHich scientific theory or fact is found to be true which was claimed by Ra. I know dewey larson physics is wrong.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - flofrog - 06-11-2018
I remember reading the first session and loving the gentleness pervading it. I so love Ra. I so love that yes you do send love to the opposite polarity and in the end everything is resolved which felt so like inside the fiber of myself.
Anther really funny thing happened. Years before I read Ra we took our kids camping in two déifieront places, first was Peru and the Altiplano. In Peru you have two very distinct ethnies : those coming from the initial spanish conquerors, who usually are holding the powerful positions in Peru, and the Indians who usually are either generally living in poverty in cities or are farmers in the rest of the country. In the Altiplano you see the Indians and they have this incredible dignity and gentleness and I kept saying to my children it’s interresting how they look a lot like Tibetans. Of course my kids would make fun of that. Then the following year, we managed to get to Tibet which was of course pretty incredible too. And the kids said whoa that’s pretty true how alike they are.
Then years later I found Ra and I read in one of the first sessions, the passage on Atlantis, and how a group of peaceful Atlanteans, having the feeling of their second nuclear war coming, decided to exile themselves and did so in three different parts, Tibet, Turkey, and Peru. And I was, whoa, I wasn’t so silly after all
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RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - Veszna - 07-19-2022
I was 43, when I first read LOO.
By then I was knee-deep in the dark night of the soul, but that's more ironic, because my whole life has been a dark night of the soul, so I'm used to it. I've known since childhood that I'm not from here, I'm not a original Earthling, thanks to the fact that from time to time scenes from another life appear in my memories. I have also had many spiritual and mystical experiences, and nothing could answer my questions on these experiences.
I'm not saying I don't feel alienated here right now, but LOO is a piece of home for me. I understand it, resonates with me and explains things that nothing and no one has been able to do.
Especially about my "other part, my half", and the energy exchange between us/I don't call twin flame or mate, these words are just notions, the 3D words can't discribe the phenomenon. /
New Age wasn't for my taste, its explanations seem too cheap to me, and the religions don't know what I'm experiencing, or they're afraid of it.
So the LOO is my inner compass, not perfect, but this knowledge is the closest thing to perfect in this reality.
At least to me.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - jafar - 07-20-2022
I do not believe in Ra/Quo material.
Have anyone realized that Ra/Quo and friends never asked to be believed?
As it commonly begin with this:
Quote:Please use your discrimination and judgment in assessing this material.
If something rings true to you, fine.
If something does not resonate, please leave it behind.
And that's what I did, I consider it but I do not believe it.
I will then seek whether the catalyst rings true or not, so I will know whether it's true or not and not believe.
The 'catalyst' is given to trigger the 'seeking' from within the entity, that's actually the goal.
And not making the entity to 'believe', let alone 'obey', as that's the goal of STS entity.
STO always try to empower you while STS always try to over-power you.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - J.W. - 07-20-2022
Because,
Out of all the ridiculous Sh*** that you hear from this terrifyingly amazing world.
This ridiculous Sh*** is surprising not too bad.
On the serious note,
I think Don Elkins played an important role in making all the woo woo stuff "believable."
His pragmatic, almost scientific approach to questioning, his background, and his attitude with the channeled materials isn't something an amateur new age, Costa Rica ($5000 Ayahuasca ceremony,) Self-helping-happy-go-lucky Instagram influencer can produce.
Carla and her education in English literature helped produce well written, or I should say "translation" between the channeled stuff.
I do think that serving as an "instrument," her knowledge with writing does help increase Ra's capacity with "words" they used.
Jim, well, Jim is nice. His picture reminds me of that one kid in high school, who practice some form of martial art, is humble, and always friendly with people. Adults around him would speak highly of him, and refer him to those in need of help.
Ra was right, the 3 is harmonious and are perfect for the "job."
Underneath all of that, there is also the little thing we call "coincidences"
When you put all the pieces together, it somehow rolls..
So why not? until a interdimensional portal opens in front of me, (lol) then maybe I'll hop on another wagon at that time.
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - sillypumpkins - 07-20-2022
Carl Jung was once asked, "do you believe in God?", his response was, "I don't believe in God, I know God"
I am not trying to compare the Law of One/Ra/Q'uo/Hatonn to "God"..... however to me it is less "believing" and more "knowing". It's the same with the stuff I don't resonate with in the text, I don't "not believe", I just "don't know"
ya dig? ;D
RE: Why do you believe in the Ra material? - jafar - 07-21-2022
(07-20-2022, 10:14 PM)sillypumpkins Wrote: Carl Jung was once asked, "do you believe in God?", his response was, "I don't believe in God, I know God"
It's the same with the stuff I don't resonate with in the text, I don't "not believe", I just "don't know"
It will be the same as I don't believe 1+1 = 2, I know 1+1 = 2 that's because I know why it's so.
Until I know why 1 + 1 = 2, I will not believe it, I just don't know.
As those who believe 1+1 = 2 but don't know why it's so, they say it because their math teachers said so, thus they believe in anything that the math teachers said without knowing why it is so.
Siddhartha once being asked the same thing, asked by the "theist" he answered "there is no God", asked by the "atheist" he answered "there is God".
The objective of such opposing answer is giving a catalyst to start the seeking.
As those who believe or not believe are the same thing, they believe / not believe in something that they do not know.
Yet for those who seek they will find.
The action of 'seeking' will start the journey.