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RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-11-2012
Thank you truly very much, Ruth. I feel really humbled and privileged by your kind words. When one realizes that all is only the ONE, then it becomes difficult to not feel the emotion that we humans term 'love'. It is not my love, but that of the ONE for his infinite children. As a part of the Tao's infinite play, I play my infinitesimal part, with consciously humble respect and adoration in my heart for the ONE.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 01-11-2012
An infinitesimal "speck" of the Creator's LOVE shared with another self is infinitely illuminating!
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-11-2012
71
Not-knowing is true knowledge.
Presuming to know is a disease.
First realize that you are sick;
then you can move toward health.
The Master is her own physician.
She has healed herself of all knowing.
Thus she is truly whole.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-12-2012
72
When they lose their sense of awe,
people turn to religion.
When they no longer trust themselves,
they begin to depend upon authority.
Therefore the Master steps back
so that people won’t be confused.
He teaches without a teaching,
so that people will have nothing to learn.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-13-2012
73
The Tao is always at ease.
It overcomes without competing,
answers without speaking a word,
arrives without being summoned,
accomplishes without a plan.
Its net
covers the whole universe.
And though its meshes are wide,
it doesn’t let a thing slip through.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-14-2012
74
If you realize that all things change,
there is nothing you will try to hold on to.
If you aren’t afraid of dying,
there is nothing you can’t achieve.
Trying to control the future
is like trying to take the master carpenter’s place.
When you handle the master carpenter’s tools,
chances are that you’ll cut your hand.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - jacrob - 01-15-2012
(01-14-2012, 08:19 PM)Confused Wrote: 74
If you realize that all things change,
there is nothing you will try to hold on to.
If you aren’t afraid of dying,
there is nothing you can’t achieve.
Trying to control the future
is like trying to take the master carpenter’s place.
When you handle the master carpenter’s tools,
chances are that you’ll cut your hand.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread yet but just today I was listening to a talk Bashar gave on the nature of time and frequency. It's just a short one I found on a Youtube playlist and it's called "Frequency and Time". Now having been puzzled for years by the fact higher dimensions do not experiencing time, after listening to Bashar I get the feeling they do experience time, but can manipulate it somewhat. It's not as linear as we experience it. It's very difficult to describe. Let me find the link quickly......................got it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTEVM7GgXc Let me know what you think.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-15-2012
Hello jacrob, thank you for dropping by the thread. Yes, even in the Ra material, dear Ra mentions in a place that they are not of time. So I understand what you are suggesting. I think the linearity of Time is a strictly space/time phenomenon. That is where the question of free will treads on difficult ground as well. However, as dear Ra says, this density is not a density of understanding. The best lesson is to use the moment to find the love in it and use it for service of other individuals and the planet. Much love to you. I will check the link you have inserted and get back with more comments, as they come into my head
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-15-2012
75
When taxes are too high,
people go hungry.
When the government is too intrusive,
people lose their spirit.
Act for the people’s benefit.
Trust them; leave them alone.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-17-2012
76
Men are born soft and supple;
dead, they are stiff and hard.
Plats are born tender and pliant;
dead, they are brittle and dry.
Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible
is a disciple of death.
Whoever is soft and yielding
is a disciple of life.
The hard and stiff will be broken.
The soft and supple will prevail.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Plenum - 01-17-2012
(01-17-2012, 08:21 AM)Confused Wrote: The hard and stiff will be broken.
The soft and supple will prevail.
that is the very essense of spontaneity! As Ra says:
41.18 The key to balance may then be seen in the unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences, thus using experience to the utmost, then applying the balancing exercises and achieving the proper attitude for the most purified spectrum of energy center manifestation in violet ray. This is why the brilliance or rotational speed of the energy centers is not considered above the balanced aspect or violet ray manifestation of an entity in regarding harvestability; for those entities which are unbalanced, especially as to the primary rays, will not be capable of sustaining the impact of the love and light of intelligent infinity to the extent necessary for harvest.
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in that sense, one is open and responsive to the moment, and totally 'supple' is regards to experience. One bends, one adjusts, but one does not lose one's integrity or balance.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - drifting pages - 01-17-2012
Free will is an illusion, a very deep one.
To me free will is the experience of it, as is so the rest of reality.
You experience it, that has to be enough.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-17-2012
77
As it acts in the world, the Tao
is like the bending of a bow.
The top is bent downward;
the bottom is bent up.
It adjusts excess and deficiency
so that there is perfect balance.
It takes from what is too much
and give to what isn’t enough.
Those who try to control,
who use force to protect their power,
go against the direction of the Tao.
They take from those who don’t have enough
and give to those who have far too much.
The Master can keep giving
because there is no end to her wealth.
She acts without expectation,
succeeds without taking credit,
and doesn’t think that she is better
than anyone else.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
Thank you plenum and dp
I do not know the great inner mysteries of the cosmic temple. However, I have chosen to serve in the name of true love, and I am privileged to do it in the company of brilliant seekers of the ONE like you and many others at b4th! 
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-18-2012
78
Nothing in the world
is as soft and yielding as water.
Yet for dissolving the hard and inflexible,
nothing can surpass it.
The soft overcomes the hard;
the gentle overcomes the rigid.
Everyone knows this is true,
but few can put it into practice.
Therefore the Master remains
serene in the midst of sorrow.
Evil cannot enter his heart.
Because he has given up helping,
he is people’s greatest help.
True words seem paradoxical.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 01-18-2012
Nothing in the world
is as soft and yielding as water.
Yet for dissolving the hard and inflexible,
nothing can surpass it.
The surface tension of water will bust your head open like a mellon if you hit it just right when you miss your exit from a ski jump!
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-19-2012
I definitely do not want to hit the water at just right then, Ruth!!
79
Failure is an opportunity.
If you blame someone else,
there is no end to the blame.
Therefore the Master
fulfills her own obligations
and corrects her own mistakes.
She does what she needs to do
and demands nothing of others.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-20-2012
80
If a country is governed wisely,
its inhabitants will be content.
They enjoy the labor of their hands
and don’t waste time inventing
labor-saving machines.
Since they dearly love their homes,
they aren’t interested in travel.
There may be a few wagons and boats,
but these don’t go anywhere.
There may be an arsenal of weapons,
but nobody ever uses them.
People enjoy their food,
take pleasure in being with their families,
spend weekends working in their gardens,
delight in the doings of the neighborhood.
And even though the next country is so close
that people can hear its roosters crowing and its dogs barking,
they are content to die of old age
without ever having gone to see it.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-21-2012
With the posting of the following verse 81 from the The Tao Te Ching (by Lao Tzu), the book comes to a finish. Thank you, Ruth, for staying from the beginning till the end in this small journey with me, in terms of studying the wonderful book that sings in praise of the ONE. Let us together worship and give thanks to the ONE for that!
81
True words aren’t eloquent;
eloquent words aren’t true.
Wise men don’t need to prove their point;
men who need to prove their point aren’t wise.
The Master has no possessions.
The more he does for others,
the happier he is.
The more he gives to others,
the wealthier he is.
The Tao nourishes by not forcing.
By not dominating, the Master leads.
Source: http://www.ai.rug.nl/~ronald/zinvol/tao.pdf
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Ruth - 01-22-2012
Thank you, Confused for not being confused about completing this journey.
I'm worshiping the ONE with you!
Blessings, love and light!
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-23-2012
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-24-2012
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Plenum - 01-24-2012
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-24-2012
Hello plenum, thank you posting this wonderful video. Great and timely message for me personally too. It is very intriguing as to how the universe uses one part of itself to help the other!
RE: The mysterious nature of time - godwide_void - 01-24-2012
Confused, I think your continued posting of these brilliant and insightful verses has cleared up alot of confusion, hehe.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-25-2012
Thank you very much, g_v.
It is very heartening to know that you follow the postings regularly. I give praise to the Tao for wonderful souls like you, who provide strength and nourishment to my spiritual seeking.RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-26-2012
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-27-2012
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-28-2012
From LOO 70.17: "I perceive a basic miscalculation upon your part in that time/space is no more homogenous than space/time. It is as complex and complete a system of illusions, dances, and pattern as is space/time and has as structured a system of what you may call natural laws".
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Plenum - 01-28-2012
(01-28-2012, 04:23 AM)Confused Wrote: From LOO 70.17: "I perceive a basic miscalculation upon your part in that time/space is no more homogenous than space/time. It is as complex and complete a system of illusions, dances, and pattern as is space/time and has as structured a system of what you may call natural laws".
thanks Confused. I was trying to find this quote the other day, but couldn't quite remember the terms. Keyword: homogenous.
thanks mate
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if you just search for "time/space" do you realise how many returns come back?? lol.
RE: The mysterious nature of time - Confused - 01-28-2012
Hello, plenum! Thank you
May I ask you why you were searching for those quotes? Just out of curiosity.