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RE: A Resignation? - unity100 - 06-15-2011
(06-15-2011, 03:43 PM)111 Wrote: I just feel when questions weren't answered she was bombarded.
of course she was bombarded and i noticed that too. its inevitable. people hold hold, when someone asks a tough question s/he is holding, others come up with what they were holding. and when someone points and says questions are left unanswered, others also chime in. normal.
Quote:And I also might be a little distressed because I had some personal questions I felt I needed to ask Vbaba privatly and she was driven away before she ever answered. So my feelings are of course a little personal. And unity I never accused you of being the one to drive her off. Like I said, I feel your personal references to the LOO to be very enlightning. I'm just suggesting as a forum, the next time (and I'm sure it will happen again) that this situation comes about, keep in mind that we are all one and seeking the same answers. There is no true understanding or "pure truth" in this density. So let's not take everything soo serious!! Much love Unity!! I'm truly sorry if I came on too strong with this. Please forgive me
there is nothing to forgive. we were talking about practical side of things. a lesson in wisdom.
(06-15-2011, 04:06 PM)Ankh Wrote:(06-15-2011, 06:59 AM)unity100 Wrote: or, it just means that people who are refraining from sharing their own subjective experiences, are not firm in those yet, and not ready to stand behind them or accept questions/inquiries about them.
What about these confused newbies, who come here, all fresh, green and optimistic, with expectations of being understood and loved, of being fit in some place, so they share... Because they are not "wise" enough to refraine from sharing their own subjective experiences, and are not firm enough yet, so they dare to speak up, but if they do not stand behind every word they say and accept any questions about them - we sure learn them that "wisdom".
so vbaba was a newbie ?
has there been any post in which he asked something, rather than preaching something ? im totally leaving aside the fact that she said had spent some time with some guru, and she learned these from him.
it was as if she was to teach us, but, not answer the tough questions in the process.
there are a lot of newbies in a lot of threads even as of this moment. i dont see anyone being driven away.
i didnt see anyone, at any point, asking even tough questions to someone who posted their personal wanderer story, regardless of how out of reality it was.
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at this point i would like to drop a note about the basics of this problem :
someone who is not ready to answer tough questions, should not set out to teach others anything. it means, s/he is not ready and firm in what s/he is supposed to offer to the society yet. and in that state, it is questionable that s/he can teach/preach.
notice how i used teach/preach instead of share/discuss. it is because whichever post i saw from vbaba, there was something 're-explaining' something we discussed before in length or was discussing at that moment, without providing any rationalization or justification, or answering tough questions asked about what she was saying. this ranges from 4d bodies being manufactured on mars and being brought to here (our knowledge of what Ra says about 4d bodies were going to evolve through normal reproduction here was being straightened by vbaba with this), to jesus being lord of this planet and so on.
even when you share/discuss, it is natural to provide sources and rationalize and explain and answer questions. it is in the nature of communication - two way interaction. if someone expects only the questions s/he wants asked to be asked, that would be named parroting, not discussing.
RE: A Resignation? - 3DMonkey - 06-15-2011
I got the impression from the beginning that she wanted "wows" not "whats". Assumption on my part. LOL, don't we all. Handing out a few "wows" can puff some members up and pull them to your side, am I right? Puff, puff, give.
RE: A Resignation? - zenmaster - 06-15-2011
(06-15-2011, 07:52 PM)unity100 Wrote: someone who is not ready to answer tough questions, should not set out to teach others anything.This should be universally obvious. But then again, even though Ra says it's the only activity worth doing - many are here mainly for other reasons such as support and entertainment.
RE: A Resignation? - Ankh - 06-16-2011
@unity - I understand your points, but have a slightly different way of viewing this, brother.
(06-15-2011, 05:47 PM)Eddie Wrote: I urge all of you to attend Homecoming. You may think it an inconvenience, or even an impossibility, but please do it anyway. The bonds we forge there are unbreakable.
There are roots planted deep into my Heart, from Carla and Jim and Ahktu and Bring4thGLB and Bring4thSteve and Tiffani and so many others....roots that will only grow and strengthen. I know that I sound like the proverbial "broken record" here, perhaps you find my exhortations tedious, but I speak to you in all sincerety.
I am planning to come as it looks right now anyway =)
RE: A Resignation? - βαθμιαίος - 06-16-2011
(06-15-2011, 09:56 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(06-15-2011, 07:52 PM)unity100 Wrote: someone who is not ready to answer tough questions, should not set out to teach others anything.This should be universally obvious. But then again, even though Ra says it's the only activity worth doing - many are here mainly for other reasons such as support and entertainment.
There's a reason Ra always referred to it as teach/learn. Anytime you set out to teach, you're going to get feedback to learn from.
The actual quote about the only activity worth doing mentions learn/teaching as well as teach/learning.
I question the idea that teach/learning and learn/teaching are the only things worth doing, though. Are they implying that opening violet ray, say, is not worth doing? Lots of worthwhile activities don't involve teach/learning or learn/teaching, at least not directly. What about healing? Building? Meditating?
RE: A Resignation? - 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011
Being open and aware of the activity is the point in mentioning this. I think.
RE: A Resignation? - Oceania - 06-16-2011
Monkey i PMed you
i think anything that's awesome and fun is worth doing.
RE: A Resignation? - zenmaster - 06-16-2011
As far as healing goes, Jung said if there is going to be healing, both parties must be necessarily be transformed.