(04-12-2015, 05:44 PM)Enyiah Wrote: Adds clarity to many nagging questions about the subject.

(04-13-2015, 09:36 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So is perversion really a negative thing? The article said it's caused by demons.

(04-13-2015, 11:29 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So there's nothing really wrong with being perverted?

I consider anything except normal sex between a married couple to be perverted.

(04-13-2015, 01:54 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: The day I take advice from The Cassiopaeans on Service-To-Others is the day I take advice on child-protection from a paedophile Catholic priest!

(04-13-2015, 01:54 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: The day I take advice from The Cassiopaeans on Service-To-Others is the day I take advice on child-protection from a paedophile Catholic priest!

(04-13-2015, 03:35 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 01:54 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: The day I take advice from The Cassiopaeans on Service-To-Others is the day I take advice on child-protection from a paedophile Catholic priest!

What's up with the Cassiopaens?

(04-13-2015, 03:35 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 01:54 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: The day I take advice from The Cassiopaeans on Service-To-Others is the day I take advice on child-protection from a paedophile Catholic priest!

What's up with the Cassiopaens?

(04-13-2015, 03:49 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 03:35 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 01:54 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: The day I take advice from The Cassiopaeans on Service-To-Others is the day I take advice on child-protection from a paedophile Catholic priest!

What's up with the Cassiopaens?

Greetings Minyatur, 

In response I shall offer my personal opinion, which is:

The Cassiopaeans bastardized The Confederation's message just as The Roman Empire ( The Vatican ) bastardized Jehoshua's ( Jesus's ) message.

Jim

(04-13-2015, 03:49 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 03:35 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 01:54 PM)Jim Kent + Wrote: The day I take advice from The Cassiopaeans on Service-To-Others is the day I take advice on child-protection from a paedophile Catholic priest!

What's up with the Cassiopaens?

Greetings Minyatur, 

In response I shall offer my personal opinion, which is:

The Cassiopaeans bastardized The Confederation's message just as The Roman Empire ( The Vatican ) bastardized Jehoshua's ( Jesus's ) message.

Jim

(04-13-2015, 04:51 PM)Minyatur Wrote: And the Confederation cares about this? Or is the annoyance only a 3D perspective?

(04-14-2015, 01:39 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: The original link is the first time I'd been exposed to the Cassopean material,  and just from having clicked on a few transcripts at random,  I wasn't impressed.   Their answers were evasive to the point it seemed like they were downright playing games with the channels,  and seemed to be far more innuendo than truth.  They also seemed to spend a lot of time focusing on things in the material world,  conspiracy theories and such,  with relatively little spiritual guidance.   And on top of that, apparently the group that contacted them went straight off the deep end into pure paranoia.  (At least if the Montalk author can be believed.)

They certainly didn't strike me as a particularly trustworthy source.

(04-14-2015, 01:50 AM)LawOfOne.info Wrote:

(04-14-2015, 01:39 AM)Session 11.12 Wrote: Questioner: Where are these three entities now?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are in the dimension known to you as fourth. Therefore the space/time continua are not compatible. An approximation of the space/time locus of each would net no actual understanding. Each chose a fourth-density planet which was dedicated to the pursuit of the understanding of the Law of One through service to self, one in what you know as the Orion group, one in what you know as Cassiopeia, one in what you know as Southern Cross; however, these loci are not satisfactory. We do not have vocabulary for the geometric calculations necessary for transfer of this understanding to you.

Quote:Q: Alright. This Bill Brooks situation: is there any relationship between the Bill Brooks communication and the incident with the radiator in the van?
A: No.

Q: Well, we still haven’t come up with any solution on this van business.
(A) In fact, I checked all around and under the van for any device that might be magnetically attached to the van, and I could find nothing. I was almost sure that there would be something, some mechanical or electronic device, but I could not find anything. And I have no idea what that means, the magnetic sphere of the van. Is this something material which is to be found?
A: What caused car window to explode?

Q: You are saying it is me that does these things?
A: Maybe.

Q: So we are having more of the fun shattering and explosion events. And, it WAS and explosion, wasn’t it? And I was awfully good at that for quite awhile.
(A) But this is not a complete explanation because we were asking about this man who was helping, and apparently, from your answers, it was clear that there is something to be learned about this man, and that this incident, this explosion...
A: Many will be watching you.

Q: Well, since this guy was watching and came and helped, maybe that would indicate that he was a benevolent watching person?
A: No.

Q: Well, THAT makes me feel secure!
A: Security on 3rd density? You must be joking!!

Q: Well speaking of ‘watched by many,’ what about this Bill Brooks? He was already to come and he was going to charge on down here and Ark started thinking he was manipulating and maneuvering a bit, and he did a few things that made me feel a little uncomfortable, and puzzled me because they didn’t quite fit or sit well. So, as a result, we cancelled. But, I am divided in my thoughts about this. I’m sure you are aware of the long conversation we had about it earlier, so tell me about Bill Brooks ‘sword dream.’ Was he making this dream up?
A: Yes.

Q: Was the dream made up to manipulate me particularly?
A: Not just you.

Q: Okay. What is the agenda behind the manipulation?
A: Control.

Q: Who is behind Bill Brooks that wishes to control? Is it Bill Brooks himself, or someone or some agency behind him?
A: Lessons are valuable to those who learn.

Q: Is it a human agency here behind Bill Brooks or is it 4th density. I would think it would have to be a 3rd density group otherwise why would they want all the transcripts? I would say it would have to be a 3rd density agency or his own personal agenda that he wants to plagiarize the transcripts...
A: Two good guesses.

(04-14-2015, 03:30 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: I just read more transcripts at random and, honestly, the more I read the less I like this source.  Most of this is material that Ra would have refused to even answer, but the Casseopeans seem to have endless patience for 3D human-related questions, which they rarely if ever answer in a straightforward fashion but still do nothing to discourage such inquiry.  

Is this group made up of aliens, is another guy trying to scam us, should I take up this business deal...  Like, this is mostly trivial bullshit, frankly.  I'm surprised they didn't try to get the Casseopeans to tell them the lotto numbers while they were at it.

I mean, look at this session I stumbled on.    They spend half a freaking hour trying to determine whether or not a car breakdown was due to a conspiracy or some other-worldly elements while the Casseopean seems to be doing everything possible to encourage continued questioning without actually answering anything.  Nothing is confirmed, and the whole business with telling them to search the archives for more information -without ANY specific guidance- seems like they really are just playing games with the channeling group.

Not to mention the way that those they're contacting seem to have different names every time, whereas most channeled sources contact a single entity and\or Social Memory Complex who becomes the face\voice of that contact.

Everything about this feels to me like deliberate mind games, meant to give the appearance of information while actually increasing the level of distortion and confusion within the group.  Nothing is ever answered concretely, and a lot of the answers practically encourage the channeling group to invent their own explanations without any clear guidance.  Ra would tell his group when they were getting into irrelevant 3D matters and suggest they think higher.  The Casseopeans just let the humans wallow in mundanity and 3D fears.

Hell, if they were even openly "preaching" STS paths and philosophies, I'd at least respect that for the sake of having the information out there.  This is...  well, frankly, if I were a higher-level entity who wanted to deliberately drive the humans crazy, this would seem like a really good way of doing it.

(04-14-2015, 03:56 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: From a little further down, here's a great example of what I'm talking about:

Quote:Q: Alright. This Bill Brooks situation: is there any relationship between the Bill Brooks communication and the incident with the radiator in the van?
A: No.

Q: Well, we still haven’t come up with any solution on this van business.
(A) In fact, I checked all around and under the van for any device that might be magnetically attached to the van, and I could find nothing. I was almost sure that there would be something, some mechanical or electronic device, but I could not find anything. And I have no idea what that means, the magnetic sphere of the van. Is this something material which is to be found?
A: What caused car window to explode?

Q: You are saying it is me that does these things?
A: Maybe.

Q: So we are having more of the fun shattering and explosion events. And, it WAS and explosion, wasn’t it? And I was awfully good at that for quite awhile.
(A) But this is not a complete explanation because we were asking about this man who was helping, and apparently, from your answers, it was clear that there is something to be learned about this man, and that this incident, this explosion...
A: Many will be watching you.

Q: Well, since this guy was watching and came and helped, maybe that would indicate that he was a benevolent watching person?
A: No.

Q: Well, THAT makes me feel secure!
A: Security on 3rd density? You must be joking!!

Q: Well speaking of ‘watched by many,’ what about this Bill Brooks? He was already to come and he was going to charge on down here and Ark started thinking he was manipulating and maneuvering a bit, and he did a few things that made me feel a little uncomfortable, and puzzled me because they didn’t quite fit or sit well. So, as a result, we cancelled. But, I am divided in my thoughts about this. I’m sure you are aware of the long conversation we had about it earlier, so tell me about Bill Brooks ‘sword dream.’ Was he making this dream up?
A: Yes.

Q: Was the dream made up to manipulate me particularly?
A: Not just you.

Q: Okay. What is the agenda behind the manipulation?
A: Control.

Q: Who is behind Bill Brooks that wishes to control? Is it Bill Brooks himself, or someone or some agency behind him?
A: Lessons are valuable to those who learn.

Q: Is it a human agency here behind Bill Brooks or is it 4th density. I would think it would have to be a 3rd density group otherwise why would they want all the transcripts? I would say it would have to be a 3rd density agency or his own personal agenda that he wants to plagiarize the transcripts...
A: Two good guesses.

Literally the ONLY thing accomplished here is getting them to think this Bill Brooks person is deliberately manipulating them, and then it simply dodges all other questions that might have actually gotten to the root of things.  That "Lessons are valuable" line is especially obnoxious.  It's not even clear from the answers whether this was deliberate on Bill Brooks' part.  It's implied, but not confirmed.   (Ie, plenty of people will make up BS for the sake of attention without a larger goal, but that would still fall under the heading of "control" from a very reductionist standpoint.)

Not to mention "Security on 3rd Density?  You must be joking!"   What a great way of increasing the INsecurity of the group.  Wouldn't Ra have been saying at that point to look towards Intelligent Infinity to find comfort\security in the knowledge that our 3D trials are transient and ultimately (almost) meaningless in the grand scheme?

The more I read, the more I'm convinced this material is poison.

(04-12-2015, 06:13 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:

(04-12-2015, 05:44 PM)Enyiah Wrote: Adds clarity to many nagging questions about the subject.

I've had a look at that page.  It looks well formatted and presented.

what's the biggest insight you got (a paragraph) from that page Enyiah?

Quote:'The Corrupt Demiurge bears the outer characteristics of a 6D construct, but while being of a negative spiritual polarity (low frequency vibration). But it’s more of an artificial intelligence without true sentience; it proceeds with pseudo-autonomy while lacking the spirit core that might have given it true sentience. Hence it’s more of a demon-like [i]machine[/i], and hence it is the central mainframe of the Matrix Control System. It is therefore a negative thought-form reflection in 6D, especially in light of what I explained in the first Gnosis article about what a thoughtform is, namely an etheric and astral construct with a programmed intelligence. ''

Quote:''Therefore the Demiurge and/or Corrupt Demiurge are, by definition, active at the “root level” of our physical existence, meaning they are actively shaping our five-sense reality via the etheric plane (which, as you may recall, is the “matrix code” behind physicality).''

Quote:''One of the fundamentals of this creation is freewill and self-discovery or self-learning, because in acting and experiencing, one grows. That’s the point of being separated from the Creator or Higher Self and being endowed with freewill. It’s the absolute core directive of our existence.''

Quote:''So it’s more than just knowledge-lessons, but also soul-growth and deepest wisdom and self-discovery at work here.''

(04-18-2015, 06:01 PM)Enyiah Wrote: Maybe the ''Corrupt Demiurge'' is deemed the necessary evil through which humanity has been condemned to endure in order to «evolve» but praytell Who is writing the Rules??!!

(04-18-2015, 07:26 PM)Minyatur: Wrote: I do not think "condemned" is the right word. If the first distortion is free will, no one is condemned of anything, only going through chosen experiences as Intelligent Infinity of Itself. So rather than a necessary evil, I view it as a chosen evil, chosen by those who seem to impose it and chosen by those who seem to suffer from it.