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Deep Dreams - AnthroHeart - 12-13-2015
Does anyone else here sometimes have deep dreams?
The kind that when you wake up you're a bit groggy, and realize how realistic the dream was. Moreso than a normal dream.
I had a dream where I wore an orange collar, like the kind they put around your wrist at a concert or in a hospital.
I was walking towards my mom who I think wanted me to remove it, and I was trying to.
I remember it being more real than this life.
No way I could tell it was a dream while I was in it.
RE: Deep Dreams - anagogy - 12-13-2015
It is a really interesting phenomenon, because while the dreams are occurring the "reality quotient" is actually quite high, but because the memories fade so quickly upon waking up into this world, they don't seem as real anymore. When you become adept at lucid dreaming, you begin to realize there is just as much, if not more detail in the dream world as there is in this one.
RE: Deep Dreams - chooser - 12-14-2015
yes, almost every night, about three or so at a time! Each one is extremely vivid, yet only lucid in terms of being aware and not so much in total control; an observation of events unfolding, gleefully. This started for me when I made a large change in my life and moved to a different city. That was around 7-8 months ago, and since the beginning of those months and that change, I have been encountering extremely "real" dreams on a consistent nightly basis to the point that they began to effect my overall mood and feeling towards the following morning/day. The dreams involved relatives (present and passed), current friends, old friends, girlfriends, pets and other figures who (intuitively) felt like guides of sorts.
I finally came to the realization that part of the benefit (and perhaps also part of the purpose) of these 'dream-bouts' was the overcoming of trauma. In my earlier years growing up I was a very cautious person who took to heart anything that happened to me very strongly, and, as such, I often ended up feeling guilty and embarrassed by my 'mistakes' or past interactions and choices. As the images of those whom I had distrusted, loathed, been angry towards, feared, or held any other sense of negative belief towards appeared more frequently in my dreams, the stronger and more sure of myself I felt after dealing with them in my dream. Other times the adventures I embarked up on my dreams were so heavy, terrifying, or disturbing that I would sometimes wake up, eat breakfast, stay awake for another hour and then go back to bed, only to dream another dream involving something less intense, and then wake up feeling refreshed and ready to be present with myself for the day. (In other words, the dreams seemed to establish my mood for a while). This process still continues today, though now my dreams are much less dramatic and more 'leveled out' if not still coming in at least 3 or 4 per night. With very spot-on timing (some call it synchronistic), I also discovered information that suggested that strong dreaming can help a person to better grasp the feeling of how physical reality is a dream unto itself. For me, this seemed to make sense as well.
RE: Deep Dreams - isis - 12-14-2015
My dreams often feel like a very real experience from another "physical reality" or timeline, or w/e you wanna call it, that's just as real as this current one.
I think it's fun to think there might be some other timeline where I wake up with memories from this one.
RE: Deep Dreams - AnthroHeart - 12-14-2015
I rarely remember my "real" waking life when I'm dreaming. Though sometimes I act like I would in life. Other times completely different. Sometimes I do taboos in my dreams.
RE: Deep Dreams - Rhayader - 12-14-2015
I've been meaning to ask about this somewhere. I tend to have such deeper dreams later in the morning, closer to the time I finally get up, and I tend to wake a few times also but im generally a little sweaty/overheating in this instance, more so on the legs. I was wondering if that happens to others, and what is the mechanism that is going on that is heating the body in this kind of dreaming?
RE: Deep Dreams - anagogy - 12-14-2015
(12-14-2015, 06:47 PM)Steppenwolf Wrote: I've been meaning to ask about this somewhere. I tend to have such deeper dreams later in the morning, closer to the time I finally get up, and I tend to wake a few times also but im generally a little sweaty/overheating in this instance, more so on the legs. I was wondering if that happens to others, and what is the mechanism that is going on that is heating the body in this kind of dreaming?
As you sleep through the night, you go through several sleep cycles where you alternate between REM sleep and Non REM sleep. At first the Non REM periods are greater than the REM periods but as you progress throughout the night the REM cycles become longer than the Non REM cycles. This is why they are easier to remember in the morning.
The cycles last approximately 90 minutes each.
As to the heat thing, I'm not sure. It happens sometimes, other times not.
RE: Deep Dreams - AnthroHeart - 12-14-2015
If we hurt someone else in a dream, are we really hurting anyone, or are they just a dream character?
I've thrashed people in dreams before and worse.
RE: Deep Dreams - anagogy - 12-15-2015
(12-14-2015, 08:10 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: If we hurt someone else in a dream, are we really hurting anyone, or are they just a dream character?
I've thrashed people in dreams before and worse.
Doubtful. The place where people normally dream at night I would describe as the lower astral, which is an orange ray layer. The layer of self (people tend to have negative ideas about the "lower astral" but it's actually a very functional portion of our consciousness). So normally, you are in your own "personal" bubble of reality and there really isn't too much interaction with other souls. I'm not saying it is 100% closed off, you could potentially still have some distorted interaction with others (because you exist on all levels simultaneously), but the interaction with others is more properly a middle astral and higher event.
RE: Deep Dreams - AnthroHeart - 12-15-2015
So would the lower astral be a fun place to live? Would one like to live for a long time in their dream world?
RE: Deep Dreams - anagogy - 12-15-2015
(12-15-2015, 10:22 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So would the lower astral be a fun place to live? Would one like to live for a long time in their dream world?
I suppose if you like interacting with your personal subconscious a whole lot. You can go into the lower astral and experience any of your previous memories, or see objective representations of your own belief constructs. And here your thoughts tend to instantly spring to life and take form, whereas the higher astral is more stable and takes a degree of concentration to make changes (because it is a consensus reality). The lower astral is like where we take potential scenarios to play out in the physical world and take them for a "test drive" before we "inject" them into our physical experience. It's a personal playground of sorts, least, that is how I interpret it. But it can also be bad, if you think fearful thoughts it quickly turns into a nightmare which makes you more afraid and then makes it worse, and so on. Same goes for the positive side.
RE: Deep Dreams - Blunt Force - 12-15-2015
No, this won't get you anywhere. What you describe here might make me look as if I'm in depression, just on the outside.