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Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - DynamicBri - 07-16-2016 A brief intro: Coorey Goode is a guy that claims to be in physical contact with tall, blue, 6th density, avians. He does not refer to them as "Ra" but it is unquestionable that he is talking about Ra. It seems that Corey has acquired his fame by coming to David Wilcock as an insider. I have nothing against David Wilcock, in fact, I like his work. But Coorey Goode seems to have dangled the Ra Material in front of David and David took the bait. David Wilcock has a Gaia video series called "Cosmic Disclosure", which almost exclusively talks about Corey Goode. Corey's site: http://spherebeingalliance.com/introduction I've watched all of the Cosmic Disclosure videos and I can't tell if Corey's speech is messed up because he is tandem lying, or if he truly has PTSD. I've also read several of his articles. I will proceed by listing the areas of concern I have. Many of these points still apply if Corey happens to be talking about a 6th density race that is not Ra. Some of them imply that Corey's experiences are fabricated while others might imply that his work is more symptomatic than positive. 1. The 9th density phenomenon. His site intro states "Relatively recently the “SSP Alliance” was joined by a group of “Beings” that no one had encountered before. They are a 6-9th Density Group of Beings that have been referred to as 'The Sphere Alliance'." 9th density? What would this be? Late second density of the next cycle? What does this have to do with our cycle? Since the what is learned from one creation is carried into the next and that creation cycles are happening all at once, I've given it some thought. But when it comes down to it, 9th density is not of this creation and does not concern us. He certainly is not using an odd interpretation of densities since he mostly using the concept correctly. When 9th density was first brought up in C-Disclosure, I seemed to be the only one asking about it in the comments section. The people that follow Corey's "work" tend to be quite uncritical. David Wilcock, who is somewhat familiar with the densities, also did not ask about it. I think David is starting to figure out that something is wrong with this guy but needs to follow through with the series. 2. Corey as a messenger. Corey claims that the blue avians have selected him to disclose information. This man, even if service-to-others, is a derp. His speech and writing skills are quite limited. Because of his intellectual limitations, the message he presents can be easily distorted. His site does not put emphasis on the Law of One. He has noticeably pretentious speech. What would a program such as the SSP need this dude for anyway? Ra is extremely picky about how they get their message through these days and I cannot see them using such an unreliable instrument. 3. Corey, on the topic of the avians, says in the first episode of Cosmic Disclosure that "They're definitely of a positive polarity." He often speaks of their "message" which is of positive polarity only. Incorrect. The blue avians, being Ra, teach the Law of One, nothing more nothing less. (Sorry, this is not necessarily true and is no longer a valid argument for anything.) 4. Corey speaks and writes about the Draco and Cabal frequently. His information has no application and is only good for creating negative thought-forms; the kind that has been making the transition difficult (17.1, 6.16). He describes the physical form of Dracos in detail, sometimes they are even 3D modelled. This is much different than the mentioning of Orion in the material. Ra gets into the Orion group, their intentions, their methodologies, in a way that is actually applicable while minimizing thought-form disruption as much as possible. 5. Corey claimed to have no knowledge of the Ra Material. I think this was stated somewhere in season one of C-Disclosure if I can remember correctly. With all of the unusual terminology he picks up on in his Doctor Who travels, one would think he would, at some point, Google some of these keywords (such as I am Ra, 6th Density, etc). He claimed to have an experience where his favourite blue avian identifies itself as Ra by saying "I am Ra." How could one resist the temptation to Google such as thing? In any case, the material should have been brought to his attention by a co-worker, or perhaps Ra if the first distortion permits. 6. The Blue Avian concept has made Ra more vulnerable to tricksters. Positive people are now trying to channel Blue Avians which is a seemingly false representation of Ra. Meaning people are not targeting a legit social memory complex when they try to channel the avians. Any being or group can respond to these calls. It also provides yet another tool for self-proclaimed gurus to use. Example: I saw a post on a C-Disclosure video linking to an avian channelling that is clearly not legit. It does not seem to be a channelling of any sort, but if it was, it certainly wasn't from Ra. I read the first paragraph: Quote:This is a message prepared by the Avians; not only the elders, but almost 500 Avians have contributed to crafting this message of great importance in today’s context. I will relay to you what they have prepared. Um... It's a 6th density social memory complex, they act as a single entity. All of them contribute to any message they relay. I mentioned this to the author. The very first part of the author's reply is "Social Memory Complex?" He then goes on about distortion even though he doesn't even document his channelling methodology on his site. Again, this is but one example of fraudulent/trickster channelling. His site is what you would expect. I find this dilemma rather concerning. 7. Corey presents the Avians as having more individuality than they should. Remember, these beings are approaching 7th density and have an incomprehensibly-low level of individuality. It's simply the way he talks about them ("Avians" for instance, implying manyness). Also, he says they have names such as Raw-Tier-Eir, Rain-Tier-Eir, and Mare-Tier-Eir. Before I say anything further, what being would allow itself to be called Mare-Tier-Eir? "Mare" means a female horse, a foolish woman, or an evil spirit. None of which suit the beings natural form and/or purpose. (Yes, I understand, at rare times, Ra assigns names to individual beings in its complex. [know where this transcript is?]) This is one of the main reasons tricksters will have no problem taking the name of the Blue Avians -- people are expecting a level of individuality that is not realistic in a 6th density social memory complex. You may be thinking, "trickster? This guy sounds like a new age schizo." Trickstering is actually covered quite extensively in the material. The Orion group, for instance, is always looking for ways to manipulate people and increase the negative harvest. As expected, there are many replies implying that "his intentions are good and he is postiviely catalyzing people so the result of his work is positive". Just because Corey might have positive intentions, does not mean that his work will have a positive effect on the world. How many people are attracted to Corey's work because they are interested in the Law of One in opposed to the ETs? How many of them are actually catalyzed from his work? Then factor in the symtoms of Corey's ways such as negative thought-forms, distracting people from more useful info, more trickster exploits, etc. I currently think that Corey's work is slightly more symptomatic than it is positive and catalyzing. Cosmic Disclosure Transcripts: http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/short/3.html?page=50 Now I will get into a very questionable astral projection experience with one of these avians. I've been astral projecting for seven years, yet this experience still managed to baffle me. I thought it was pretty cool, Ra or not. I honestly don't know what this is about, so I figured I should try to get some opinions on it. (I will use Robert Monroe's terminology to help describe the experience in more detail.) I entered a typical AP, in my home in locale 1. I managed to summon "Raw-Teir-Eir" in my first attempt. I’ve tried summoning many other beings, such as Robert Monroe, Anubis, Jesus, Michael (the angel), Ra (the Egyptian god, not the complex) with no results at all. So I was pretty excited this time around. I could feel it around my kitchen, so I flew from my bedroom out to the kitchen. There it was, standing just outside my back door looking in at me through the screen. I have never, in all of my experiences, seen an ETs form in such detail. It appeared almost exactly the same as it does in the artist sketch of it. Only it had a red patch above its beak, around its forearms, and on its knees. It also had much longer feathers on its elbows, knees, and shoulders. I could see the details of its face – even its expression (it was mostly expressionless however). It responded to my thoughts but I could not pick up on what it was thinking much of the time. It kept doing very weird things. For instance, it began to dance wildly at my screen door. It also clicked me into a generic scene where it presented itself as a stuff animal replica of itself. I was under the impression it was trying to learn what makes people feel uncomfortable, so I described to it the magnitude at what various actions were weird. The experience went on for a while, but got rather abstract and would be hard for me to write about here. This experience was the first time a being has ever told me NOT to talk about the experience I had with it. The being also scheduled a meeting with me for the next morning. I have never had a being schedule anything with me through this medium. Near the end of the experience, It asked me to meet it around my back door at the same time tomorrow (8:30 AM, and presumably in locale 1). I told it that I probably won’t be able to meet it on any schedule (because I don’t get out on demand). It didn’t reply. I spent around five hours trying to get into locale 1 the next morning. I was so excited that I couldn’t even fall asleep. I finally fell deep asleep around 8 AM. At 8:40 AM I woke up from something like exploding head syndrome. Some years I get EHS – in other years I do not get it at all. I mostly have attributed this phenomenon to my sleep deficiencies, but now that I think of it, I have no explanation for why it happens for spans of six months to a year then stops. So I wouldn’t have been too concerned about the bang, but I saw a warp in the space just next to my bed. My room was fully sunlit too. I almost never have waking paralysis hallucinations in my bedroom while it is lit up this much. I also can’t say for certain if I was paralyzed by the sleep mechanism or from fear. Right after the bang happened, the first thing that came to mind was that Tier-Eir got pissed that I couldn’t meet it at the scheduled time, so it gave me EHS. Then I thought perhaps it was trying to wake me up into paralysis so I could utilize it to dissociate. Then I thought it might have intentionally woke me up so I can meet it physically in my backyard (the avians are said to contact people physically after a bit of nonphysical contact as a sort of profound catalyst). I was quite concerned, for the rest of the morning, that the being would manifest in front of me (I certainly didn’t want to make contact with an ET I only just met). I did however, continue to try to meet it again in various altered states. I tried to summon it in around five different experiences but got no results. Eventually, I hear, “Get out of your dream!”, implying that I need to get into the astral plane for communication. I am not sure if this was Ra or not, but it was certainly concerned about distortion. I hope by now you have gathered that: If you want to connect with Ra, intend on connecting with the entire complex instead of individuals within the complex. This seems like the safest route. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - anagogy - 07-16-2016 Can you be more specific about why you feel the Blue Avians are the Ra social memory complex? Because honestly, I just don't get that impression. Also, the idea of them being Blue Avians contradicts the Ra material description of the Ra social memory complex, who, by their own admonition, simply appear as light on the physical level. Even when the Ra social memory complex visited the Egyptians and clothed themselves in 3rd density visible tangible forms approximating their sixth density light forms (as best they could) they appeared as tall slender beings with golden skin, so its very possible these Blue Avians are a different group altogether. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - DynamicBri - 07-16-2016 Quote:Can you be more specific about why you feel the Blue Avians are the Ra social memory complex? Because honestly, I just don't get that impression. Sure. When the avian Raw-Tier-Eir is asked if he has any relations to the Egyptian god Ra, all it says is: "I am Raw-Tear-Eir". (I remembered this as "I am Ra" up until now, so it is not as definite as I thought.) On Corey's intro page: Quote:The Blue Avians also gave a warning with this “Message”. They had tried to deliver this message “Three Other Times” and it had been distorted by humanity. The timeline on http://www.lawofone.info/ indicates this is what Ra did. The known avians are 6th density beings whose names happen to begin with "Ra", and they happen to use near identical terminology to what's in the material (densities, major cycle, wanderers, etc.) They also have blue, bird heads as depicted in the Egyptian god Ra (which Ra has congruency with). RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 07-16-2016 (07-16-2016, 10:43 AM)anagogy Wrote: Can you be more specific about why you feel the Blue Avians are the Ra social memory complex? Because honestly, I just don't get that impression. i think about this part often, and wonder if the sphere being alliance really has anything to do with Ra. Here is the exact quote 6.4 Questioner: He’ll understand me. We’ll be very careful to totally inform Tom before he attends. Thank you very much. It seems to me that it might be an appropriate time to include a little more historical background of yourself, possibly information having to do with where you came from prior to involvement with planet Earth, if this is possible. Ra: I am Ra. I am, with the social memory complex of which I am a part, one of those who voyaged outward from another planet within your own solar system, as this entity would call it. The planetary influence was that you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the sixth dimension our physical beings were what you would call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. Our physical body complex covering, which you call the integument, had a golden luster. In this form we decided to come among your peoples. Your peoples at that time were much unlike us in physical appearance, as you might call it. We, thus, did not mix well with the population and were obviously other than they. Thus, our visit was relatively short, for we found ourselves in the hypocritical position of being acclaimed as other than your other-selves. This was the time during which we built the structures in which you show interest. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - DynamicBri - 07-16-2016 (07-16-2016, 03:54 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote:(07-16-2016, 10:43 AM)anagogy Wrote: Can you be more specific about why you feel the Blue Avians are the Ra social memory complex? Because honestly, I just don't get that impression. I'm aware of the physical manifestation difference, and do not really see it as a huge factor. Ra clearly freaked people out with their replica form and may have chosen a more suitable form for human interaction in the recent days. On a side note, Corey mentions tall, slim, golden, triangle-head beings as beings working alongside the avians. He does not get into what they are though. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Eddie - 07-17-2016 I decided, long ago, that Goode was a hoaxer, leading David Wilcock around by the nose, by telling him what he wanted to hear....rather like Dan Burisch. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Jade - 07-20-2016 At this point though, I'm getting really suspect of David's own motives. I read one of his recent articles and he was begging for money for Corey (asking his followers to donate to a known special-ops?? Is this the best way to request service of others?) and also talked about how the SSP "punishes" Corey through torture, because he and David are not "releasing info quickly enough"... I think it's obvious that they are heavily implying that the "Blue Avians" are "Ra" which makes it even worse. Anyway, I hope David realigns soon and can move back towards teaching timeless concepts and not batedly informing us about the drama between the US government secret space program and the beings they are in contact with, Corey being his singular liaison. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - DynamicBri - 07-20-2016 (07-20-2016, 01:15 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: At this point though, I'm getting really suspect of David's own motives. I read one of his recent articles and he was begging for money for Corey (asking his followers to donate to a known special-ops?? Is this the best way to request service of others?) and also talked about how the SSP "punishes" Corey through torture, because he and David are not "releasing info quickly enough"... Yea, the more I read Ra and the more I watch Cosmic Disclosure, the more nonsensical Corey's stories seem. A single Ra reponse can often have more info in it than an entire CD episode. David needs to be more careful or he is going to loose all credibility. David is even getting into this stuff in his Wisdom Teachings. Season 22 has videos titled with words like: Illuminati, cabal, full disclosure, NASA, etc. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - JerryF - 07-21-2016 Thanks for starting this thread, DynamicBri. David Wilcock’s promotion of Corey Goode is understandable. Starting years before Corey began talking about space programs, two prominent themes at David’s web site have been: 1. U.S. government public disclosure of its UFO/ET activities is just around the corner. 2. The illuminati/cabal is about to be defeated I have no first-hand experience with the phenomena Corey discusses (UFOs, ETs, space programs, inner earth societies, illuminati negotiations, blue avians) and so don’t have the background to pass judgment on what he says. Much of what Corey describes as the Blue Avian message sounds like service to others teachings:
For anyone interested in further exploring Corey’s ideas, I recommend Michael Salla’s 2015 book, “Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs & Extraterrestrial Alliances.” The book quotes Corey extensively and makes comparisons with previous documentation and personal accounts. I found that book engaging, particularly the info on Nazi Germany’s development of advanced aircraft, Antarctica, and US govt cover-ups. Jerry RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Manjushri - 07-23-2016 It seems like material Ra would tell us is "transient" as third density beings. But if we are fourth, then we are to start learning the ways of wisdom. I could see it either way, I guess. But until a Blue Avian says hello, it's all a story that someone is making a lot of money by sharing. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Manjushri - 07-23-2016 (07-20-2016, 01:15 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: At this point though, I'm getting really suspect of David's own motives. I read one of his recent articles and he was begging for money for Corey (asking his followers to donate to a known special-ops?? Is this the best way to request service of others?) and also talked about how the SSP "punishes" Corey through torture, because he and David are not "releasing info quickly enough"... Jade your observations lead me further into believing David has been bribed or worse by people who want to morph the attention of people who follow the teachings of Ra. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - outerheaven - 07-23-2016 Quote:Jade your observations lead me further into believing David has been bribed or worse by people who want to morph the attention of people who follow the teachings of Ra. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I really don't think it has to be anything that nefarious. Look at his lifestyle. Living in LA can't be cheap, but he probably needs to live there if he wants to continue appearing regularly on TV. That is, after all, great exposure for his career -- which surely he also needs, since he's always dreaming about his script being made into a Hollywood blockbuster. He's made allusions to feeling like a 'rockstar' and having legions of sexy women who proposition him, etc. Money and fame are seductive (and never enough!), and there's a lot of '3D' stuff going on here. Focus on those material desires for long enough and you might get hood-winked by a charlatan talking about giant blue alien birds, even if a most cursory internet search will reveal this character's history to be dubious, to say the least. And who knows?, maybe DW doesn't even believe it himself. But he's set himself up to where enough people believe him implicitly and will buy what he's selling. And when you're aiming for bigger and better things ... when you need money to pay the bills ... RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Jade - 07-23-2016 I just see the David/Corey/Blue Avians discussion pop up in the Facebook group often, and a lot of people there are very, very into David and can't hear criticism about him. So I spent some time reading some of his newest essays and at this point... they were extremely hard to read. Red flags everywhere. I'm not going to go ranting and raving anywhere I can that David's a shill or anything, but I do feel compelled to voice my opinion that what he's currently dong and saying really has me bothered. Almost ALL of his "insiders" come from deep within the US government - and they "corroborate impossible things!" Apparently he definitely believes that the US government is capable of hiding ET contact from us and facilitating a cabal, but not capable of using special ops to manipulate the information that one person receives, someone who gets hundreds of thousands of hits on their blog posts and also has multiple TV shows. The fact that he won't even be the slightest bit critical or discerning about his "insider contacts" makes me really, really suspicious of what he actually believes in. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 07-23-2016 There has been some new evidence brought to light to back up what corey has to say, there are a bunch of egyptian art pieces where it shows a bird person with blue skin. http://www.williamhenry.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-shot-2016-06-07-at-5.27.13-AM-1.png and http://www.williamhenry.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-shot-2016-06-07-at-5.42.39-AM.png I honestly did not trust David Wilcock when i first found him 10 years ago. I read his books, I backwards researched all his findings and discussions of other scientists. I finished the Law of One, and I can say I really like what Wilcock is doing he's honest and he's not perfect. He may be being led through the nose by Goode, because so far Corey hasn't brought any new information to the table. Then again I've found parts of his story by synchronicity that was out in the public stream way before wilcock and goode decided to speak. it's when people make it a point to be trustworthy and make it a point to seem really good, that makes me wonder if they are really being genuine or if they are trying to fake it. David has no such reservations of trying to seem like a saint, which makes it easy to think he's maybe not being forth coming or good. What Ra quote goes through my mind personally whenever i feel like i am about to distrust someone I am reminded of this quote: 80.10 Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so? Ra: I am Ra. We do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very often not as apparent as the darkness itself. The progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the Catalyst of the Spirit. Few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. By far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery. Therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature. It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not. -------------------------- What is it about this person that is mirroring an aspect of myself that i haven't learned to love yet? If I allow myself to sit with it, usually i find that I can heal this situation within myself, and David stops mirroring what I no longer have an issue with. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Glow - 07-23-2016 I think stuff like that is just more catalyst. You find it doesn't resonate so what would Ra tell you to do? Discard it, right? But maybe Corey and David and others need this catalyst. It's good you see it doesn't resonate that is wisdom. I haven't read it because really it doesn't matter. Ra said it all when he said we are all one. I'm aim to just operate off that. Blue pink green aliens it doesn't matter it's just fluff we are all one. _______ - GentleWanderer - 07-23-2016 _______ RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 07-23-2016 **** I'll just comment to your comments if that's okay with this symbol: **** 1. The 9th density phenomenon. His site intro states "Relatively recently the “SSP Alliance” was joined by a group of “Beings” that no one had encountered before. They are a 6-9th Density Group of Beings that have been referred to as 'The Sphere Alliance'." 9th density? What would this be? Late second density of the next cycle? What does this have to do with our cycle? Since the what is learned from one creation is carried into the next and that creation cycles are happening all at once, I've given it some thought. But when it comes down to it, 9th density is not of this creation and does not concern us. He certainly is not using an odd interpretation of densities since he mostly using the concept correctly. When 9th density was first brought up in C-Disclosure, I seemed to be the only one asking about it in the comments section. The people that follow Corey's "work" tend to be quite uncritical. David Wilcock, who is somewhat familiar with the densities, also did not ask about it. I think David is starting to figure out that something is wrong with this guy but needs to follow through with the series. **** the 7-9 density beings you're referring to wouldn't be the blue avians and are supposed to be these orbs of light. pretty sure the blue avians should be either fifth or sixth. and the reason why is because of the additional evidence brought forward because of old egyptian wall reliefs having blue skinned bird like depictions. so far i haven't noticed anything in their message contrary to the Law of One. so double win there. at least the Law of One is being percolated, the seeds, the calling to learn the Law of One, are/is being cast forth. **** 2. Corey as a messenger. Corey claims that the blue avians have selected him to disclose information. This man, even if service-to-others, is a derp. His speech and writing skills are quite limited. Because of his intellectual limitations, the message he presents can be easily distorted. His site does not put emphasis on the Law of One. He has noticeably pretentious speech. Ra is extremely picky about how they get their message through these days and I cannot see them using such an unreliable instrument. ****umm maybe a little strict here. he is saying to love one another, but i do agree he needs to get on the Law of One since he's saying his wife has read further into it than he has, though i don't think that dimiinishes his character as a spark of the infinite creator. Everyone at the heart is that. Though of course you can't teach the Law of One, without having read all of it, and having understood the full catalyst presented either. Him withholding from teaching it may be a wise choice on the part that he does not know the full material.**** 3. Corey, on the topic of the avians, says in the first episode of Cosmic Disclosure that "They're definitely of a positive polarity." He often speaks of their "message" which is of positive polarity only. Incorrect. The blue avians, being Ra, teach the Law of One, nothing more nothing less. Quote:The Law of One blinks neither at the light or the darkness, but is available for service to others and service to self. However, service to others results in service to self, thus preserving and further harmonizing the distortions of those entities seeking intelligent infinity through these disciplines.(7.15) **** 36.12 Questioner: Let me take as an example the one you said was called Himmler. We are assuming from this that his higher self was of sixth density and it was stated that Himmler had selected the negative path. Would his higher self then dwell in a sixth-density negative type of situation? Could you expand on this concept? Ra: I am Ra. There are no [negative] beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality of late sixth density, as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive. **** this part would run contrary to while sixth density blinks to neither service to self nor service to others it would be with respect. Fifth density graduation wisdom, must be matched with an equal amount of love. A lot of people think that they understand love, though love in Carla's and many other's words were not just love of the light, but also love of the dark aspects of ourselves. Which has to do with mirrors and shadow reintegration work. I don't think that it means it would necessarily approve of service to self actions, but to understand that what bothers us to be able to be present with the parts of ourselves that are dark. To be willing to nurture unity within and as such, be able to nurture unity on to others at a greatly profound level. Um... It's a 6th density social memory complex, they act as a single entity. All of them contribute to any message they relay. I mentioned this to the author. The very first part of the author's reply is "Social Memory Complex?" He then goes on about distortion even though he doesn't even document his channelling methodology on his site. Again, this is but one example of fraudulent/trickster channelling. His site is what you would expect. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I find this dilemma rather concerning. 7. Corey presents the Avians as having more individuality than they should. Remember, these beings are approaching 7th density and have an incomprehensibly-low level of individuality. It's simply the way he talks about them ("Avians" for instance, implying manyness). Also, he says they have names such as Raw-Tier-Eir, Rain-Tier-Eir, and Mare-Tier-Eir. Before I say anything further, what being would allow itself to be called Mare-Tier-Eir? "Mare" means a female horse, a foolish woman, or an evil spirit. None of which suit the beings natural form and/or purpose. (Yes, I understand, at rare times, Ra assigns names to individual beings in its complex. [know where this transcript is?]) This is one of the main reasons tricksters will have no problem taking the name of the Blue Avians -- people are expecting a level of individuality that is not realistic in a 6th density social memory complex. You may be thinking "trickster? This guy sounds like a new age schizo." Trickstering are actually covered quite extensively in the material. The Orion group, for instance, is always looking for ways to minipulate people and increase the negative harvest. Cosmic Disclosure Transcripts: http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/short/3.html?page=50 I hope by now you have gathered that: If you want to connect with Ra, intend on connecting with the entire complex instead of individuals within the complex. This seems like the safest route. **** I think you should be relying on your higher self though at the same time all contact needs to be tested and verified in the sense that you need to be consciously asking them if they serve in the love and light of the one infinite creator. Since your higher self would be able to help you discern whether another self has positive or negative intentions. Also what makes you think they would have a low level of individuality? I think actually it would be the opposite. It would be a high level of individuality with the mutual understanding of the Law of One because again it's matched with a high level of love, not just wisdom and this statement to assume trickster while i attempt to traverse the law of confusion. It would come down to the difference whether someone looked at reality as that with lack, or that with abundance. The main teaching is that the Creator is infinite and that the logos of this creation was that of joy. 90% of the known galaxy is sto and less than 10 percent sts. I think corey has his heart in the right place, though from a light discerning perspective, all he would need to do is come participate in the forums and we would teach him the Law of One ^_^ **** RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 07-23-2016 (07-23-2016, 01:29 PM)GentleWanderer Wrote:(07-23-2016, 11:40 AM)BlatzAdict Wrote: I honestly did not trust David Wilcock when i first found him 10 years ago. I read his books, I backwards researched all his findings and discussions of other scientists. I finished the Law of One, and I can say I really like what Wilcock is doing he's honest and he's not perfect. I understand where David is coming from i suppose since i've followed his work since the beginning before he had all these tv shows, while he hasn't been correct about some things, it doesn't mean his heart is not in the right place, and I owe it to him for introducing me to the Law of One. He wasn't correct about spontaneous ascension, sure, though I did feel an upsurge in my powers. I felt it, and it was very palpable. When I first learned about him I didn't trust him at all, I went through all of his books that he published on divinecosmos.com and I backwards researched all of the scientists. I found the work was valid, just because Wilcock was talking about it didn't make the Russian scientific research any less valid. In truth all the material did not have to do with Wilcock at all, it had to do with his findings as a researcher. So I separated Wilcock with his message but continued to study his material. I do not view this guy as a sage but rather as a colleague in the same field, an equal other self. In the end I found validity to the researchers he was citing, that are being all proven today with many other people like Nassiem Haramein, Dan Winter, and Andrew Bartzis Galactic Historian, their stories match up and filled in gaps with the Law of One in my understanding of galactic history. While I don't trust people to get it all right since third density is not the density of understanding, I understand that people will always have bits and pieces of the truth. One must keep seeking and constantly take viewpoints and constantly dissect or in Law of One terms distill, and consciously separate the wheat from the chaff internally in terms of knowledge. I still trust Davids intentions but like all things, all things must be discerned and never blindly accepted. That is why in the beginning of each channeling Ra is like please take what resonates with you, and throw out what you don't want to consider. It is in a way, a basic instruction in teaching finer discernment. I believe that is one of the main catalyst of this period for people. I do wonder if Corey is holding him back due to neglecting to read the Law of One, though I feel it would not be wiser to think he is a trickster right away either. Rash judgements of trickster is an acknowledgement that this mirror, this other self that this person portrays, is another part of my self, that I may view as sinister or a trickster within myself that I am seeing. Would it support the Law of One, and unity to judge this sinister side of myself, or would it support the Law of One to love, accept and understand this perceived side of myself that i may view as sinister. Plus the Law of One states most of the galaxy is not STS, less than 10 percent? Due to that I don't automatically assume someone is necessarily a trickster, but perhaps, lied to, misinformed, or distorted at some level of understanding. 71.8 Questioner: If an entity has chosen the negative polarization are the processes of healing and review similar for the negative path? Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. 71.9 Questioner: Are the processes that we are talking about processes that occur on many planets in our Milky Way Galaxy, or do they occur on all planets, or what percentage? Ra: I am Ra. These processes occur upon all planets which have given birth to sub-Logoi such as yourselves. The percentage of inhabited planets is approximately 10%. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - DynamicBri - 07-25-2016 I've also recently found a transcript, implying that 6th density has negative and positive polarized SMCs. It has been updated in the original post. Thanks. My understanding is that the closer a mind/body/spirit complex gets to the next octave, the less individuality a mind/body/spirit complex has (less separation). RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 07-26-2016 (07-25-2016, 10:43 PM)DynamicBri Wrote: I've also recently found a transcript, implying that 6th density has negative and positive polarized SMCs. It has been updated in the original post. Thanks. yea but.... what about 36.12? 36.12 Questioner: Let me take as an example the one you said was called Himmler. We are assuming from this that his higher self was of sixth density and it was stated that Himmler had selected the negative path. Would his higher self then dwell in a sixth-density negative type of situation? Could you expand on this concept? Ra: I am Ra. There are no [negative] beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality of late sixth density, as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive. Your arguement has a lot of holes, I'm not trying to be mean here, but I'm trying to be impartial as to flesh out the idea as to whether or not Corey is disinfo or not. 6 density is not that of polarity. it is of balance but you seem to confuse the two and say that there are sto and sts beings in sixth density. If you only look at things in terms of duality as opposites then you won't understand anything. Thanks for being patient and allowing me the time to work on the issue. There are two sides to everything, there is male and female, night and day, in breath and out breath, is one necessarily better than the other? Both are required for life to continue, to exist, and to survive. Contract and expand. Evil is just live spelled backwards and was created as part of a grand deception to incite opposing sides within an inclusive system meant for love. I completely disagree that there is less individuality at sixth density. Ra gives us several clues that this is wrong. Experience all things desired, they don't suggest to refrain or trying to suppress which is that of the negative adept. Sixth Density beings would have understood this, which is why the higher self is created as a gift to the past self. We are one, your sense of individuality is based on what? Is individuality based on what color someone likes or what food they like to eat? Is individuality based on how someone responds to catalyst? All catalyst either has been catalyzed or it has been left and ignored. In my personal opinion, to simply observe, is to retain your individual personality, your consciousness. I believe the one infinite creator is the conglomeration of all souls that have reached the same level of coherence to love. Are they necessarily one being, or do they simply act as one such as a flock of birds. My experience reading about and experiencing the astral realms, confirms at least for me the only time you looks your individuality, is if you incarnate in 2nd density, or your acts in the physical world are so selfish that it warrants a complete rebuilding of the soul, which may involve blank slating the soul from prevous incarnational memories. I don't think anything merges into one, otherwise it takes the infinity out of intelligence. I think in a free will supported universe, your actions may align with one, or your actions may align with another one. You however do not actually merge with anyone else. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Jade - 07-26-2016 To clarify... Quote:Ra: I am Ra. There are no [negative] beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality of late sixth density, as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive. The Oversoul manifestation (Higher Self) is of late 6th density. At the beginning of 6th density, the polarities are still split. Ra mentions this: Quote:7.15 Questioner: What is the density of the Orion group? Quote:32.8 Questioner: Do the energy transfers of this nature occur in fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh density? I mean, of all the rays? Ra also clarifies many times that they are only able to channel servers to others philosophies. I think it's a valid point about the "Blue Avians" if there are multiple personalities, that is a bit odd. The naming thing is also weird since Ra eschews names. We all know that there exists a very good 5th density Orion entity who was able to even trick Carla on occasion - I suspect most people who attempt "solo channel" Ra get this entity (since the entity was even able to fool the cohesive triad!). The Law of One is obviously quite magical, which draws attention - and we all are aware of how difficult it is to keep our chakras "unbaffled" - for those who step forward as "gurus" I think the bar is set higher. I personally do not think Corey, someone who says he has been memory-wiped and programmed by the government, has a contact greater than that of Don/Carla/Jim to Ra - I mean, he has memories of going and meeting with these beings, yes? Ra tells us that Carla went and resided with them in 6th density during the sessions, yet she doesn't speak of any recollection of meeting with Blue Avians. I'm not trying to get into a debate of who is worthy of a contact with Ra or not, or say that all experiences have to be identical, I'm just evaluating the steps that Carla/Don/Jim took to achieve and sustain their contact with Ra, and the steps that Corey has taken to establish his contact with the Blue Avians. The valley between the two is too far for me to traverse. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 07-27-2016 (07-26-2016, 08:51 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: To clarify... For me the only thing that matters is that if both groups are saying to follow unity, follow love, compassion and to forgive others, then that is all I need to know they are on the same side. Really, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, Zoroaster, everyone talked about the same thing, be nice, love one another, forgive. Why is it so easy to confuse the message with the messenger? Additionally if The Blue avians are really a sixth density being, they can appear however they want. Appearing as a different form would lend one to the Law of Confusion as SMC Ra explicitly throughout the text makes judgement calls as to not violate free will. DW I think really does his best to stick to the LOO, and while both DW and CG's efforts are not really talking about the Law of One, Caring about your fellow brother and sister and their well being, as well as that of your own, is that unimportant? Getting the truth out that affects the liberty of billions of souls on the planet who have been on and off controlled by the same groups since the last few falls of Atlantis. The Orion Empire has been pulling the strings here by the ignorance of the people itself, and the story Corey brings forward with the AI controlling the orions, well let me just say this info was channeled around the same time as the Law of One believe it or not. I've also pieced galactic history together by my own past life regressions and also Andrew Bartzis galactic historian, even his story matches up with Ra's story, except the way he describes venusians is a bit amusing. Philosophers who had sex a lot. Anyway my bottom line is, it is a faulty argument to lay judgement to one person, when there are many many others whose risks that they have taken support Corey Goode's story who were around before started to speak out. Gary McKinnon hacked nasa and found documents about the same secret space program that Corey talks about. William Tompkins, designed the ships used for what would become Solar Warden, that corey talks about. Remember Corey has been mind wiped like every soul that goes through the human incarnation process. The Blue avians claim Corey was one of them in the previous life. All Wanderers are subject to the same rules of awakening and seeking at third density. We can't expect him to know or understand Law of One until he first and foremost reads it, finishes it, and then catalyses the material to live it. I have a hard time seeing any real valid arguement here, other than Corey's efforts to speak about transient subjects instead of finishing the text and promolgating Unity. At the same time, you have a technology that can shut down all money systems, create abundance instead of lack. Teleporters and replicators. We would be able to just not use money and finally actually have a real service to others society. We are still using 100 year old technology, called automobiles that burn gasolene and still do only because of a few rich cats who are desended from bloodlines that were originally taught the Law of One, and then subverted it all to become luciferian child raping banking, false flag war orchestrating criminals. I've been to the ends of the world and back, I find that all lines of information have a source of validity. There is a cancer upon the Earth, and until people wake up from it, then we will continue to have a society that shuns spirit, shuns learning the heart of self, and have to work a 9-5 doing what they don't want to do rather than what they could be doing. We have the technology to make heaven on earth, to rewrite society from lack based resource competition to abundance based collaborative collectives. Right now all these news things coming out, all these political moves are being made and it's all coming out and becoming easy to learn. Like Wiki Leaks. Still to this day has only leaked about less than 2 percent of everything that Edward Snowden actually got. The way can only be found in balance, when all of the disparate groups look to find a common goal and can finally start to work together so we can finally answer the call that has been going on here on this sphere for almost 10,000 years now. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - DynamicBri - 07-27-2016 Thanks for the quotes, it cleared some stuff up in my understanding. I am now certain that the related argument I posted is not valid.
RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Chandlersdad - 08-04-2016 I will make this succinct. I do NOT believe in Corey Goode's story for one basic reason. The man seems to be almost omniscient. David can ask him about practically anything "out on the fringe" of conspiracy theory, and Corey is an expert. Now, if Corey was actually in some secret space program and the favorite "toy boy" of an alien race in 6th density, I would think his career would be quite compartmentalized. Yet, Corey seems to have been on human space ships, alien motherships, Mars and other planets, space colonies, and even deep inside planet Earth visiting secret civilizations. Just about every week on David's GAIA TV show, Corey comes up with even more knowledge about EVERYTHING. David also asks questions and then provides an answer, asking Corey to corroborate David's answer. Corey usually does this, or comes up with an even more wild answer. No one man would have this much experience in a secret endeavor. Corey seems to position himself as the most desired human being in the solar system. Evidently, he was needed for so many roles that he takes multi-tasking to the next octave beyond human understanding! Bottomline: I simply cannot believe a man who seems to know just about everything about everything in the world of conspiracy theory. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Glow - 08-04-2016 I just went to his site for the first time after this post. It's quite interesting having never heard of sphere beings he describes the "guides" who are with me, and their intention, including matching visions where they led me through visualization of lessons. I don't think he is totally off in left field at least about the sphere brings. I still really wouldn't worry about his message matching Ra's I think the fear mongering about the illuminati isn't in keeping with Ra's intent but his own distortion may be colouring that a bit. Fear. I don't think Ra would be worried. It's transient. The only important part of the message is the same. We are all one. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Glow - 08-04-2016 (08-04-2016, 11:43 AM)Chandlersdad Wrote: I will make this succinct. I do NOT believe in Corey Goode's story for one basic reason. The man seems to be almost omniscient. David can ask him about practically anything "out on the fringe" of conspiracy theory, and Corey is an expert.No offence intended but look and see if it is you perceiving him as trying to be superior that bothers you. If so that is your ego response. Balance, don't let it catalyze you negativily, we are supposed use catalyst to becomes more loving, more forgiving of others distortion a, and raising our vibration. Looking at him as another self. He is clearly trying his best, he may struggle with ego but he is awake and seeking. Sorry if I seem all fluffy bunny on this but he might be reaching some that need his approach. It's not for you, that's ok. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Glow - 08-04-2016 (07-27-2016, 09:44 AM)BlatzAdict Wrote:(07-26-2016, 08:51 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: To clarify... Great post over all. And I lol'd at the venesian thing. I think I'd like Venus RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Matt1 - 08-04-2016 I find DW research to be pretty good over the years, cant fault the guy overly. He seems to be a fairly intelligent and genuine person who has a real interest in getting a positive message out in the world and shining a light on the negative elite. However Goode in my opinion is a little bit off , i am not sure how genuine he is as a person or how in tune his message is with the Law of One. I have to say i have lost some faith in David Wilcocks material sense he started his show with Goode. The main point is that this is all fairly transient material as Ra would call it. Ra taught a philosophy that all phenomenon is conscious and part of a collective unity which we can directly experience through spiritual growth. This isn't anything new, Ra's message has been taught through neoplatoism and various spiritual believes such as panpsychism , pantheism etc. Although they may have some differences all are similar in the sense in a believe in a oneness of all phenomenon and self. The basic tradition or path is the cultivation of positive virtue or ethical conduct, the 5 precepts in Buddhism are a fairly good example and also going within oneself through meditation, prayer or some other similar practice. Once enough Faith, compassion and wisdom has been attained a direct mystical experience of oneness beyond the individual ego is experience, often called Samadhi in the east. Ra teachs nothing which hasn't been taught before since the beginning of religion itself. They perhaps offer a different view which is more suitable for someone inclined to the new age since its ET source. The point i am trying to summarize here is that we are really working in the realms of faith and anything which can been used by someone to polarize more to the positive side of experience is surely a good thing. fraud, delusional or not if someone can find hope then surely all is well. RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - BlatzAdict - 08-04-2016 (08-04-2016, 02:07 PM)Matt1 Wrote: I find DW research to be pretty good over the years, cant fault the guy overly. He seems to be a fairly intelligent and genuine person who has a real interest in getting a positive message out in the world and shining a light on the negative elite. However Goode in my opinion is a little bit off , i am not sure how genuine he is as a person or how in tune his message is with the Law of One. I have to say i have lost some faith in David Wilcocks material sense he started his show with Goode. I was gravitated to the Law of One because of David Wilcock, at least for me I agree with this statement in that it's only brought more people to begin to take a look at it. It also seems that we all collectively agree the stuff Corey reports on is a bit transient, I don't know how much of it is necessary, though what I do know about the powers that be is that they do not want people to know they are using a technology that is completely beyond fossil fuels. If we are to become stewards of this planet, and of each other, those teleporters and anti gravity ships need to be released to the public. What most people don't realize is everything from the way English language is designed, to how governments are run and laws are written, have all been made to be the way they are by Orion influence in the first place. One of Corey's main ideas is that we need to end the babylonian money magic system. The more I've researched into the federal reserve and into fiat money, I understand this is the lynch pin that holds the masses in ignorance. All of our culture as we know it would cease to be, everything from hollywood, to all forms of distraction. For anyone willing to do the back end research that proves this: http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny I researched David's findings that he mentions, and the basis of his research involves a the idea of an intelligent field that creates life. I have a scientific posit for anyone to debunk, check out Dr. Masaru Emoto's Rice Experiment. It shows consciousness affects and creates reality. Hate rice rots and becomes black, love rice becomes golden and starts to smell sweet, and ignore rice dries out. Check out how many people replicated this, I feel this is one of those things that would tear down veils for most people. Then I also started to research linguistics... look what happens to the sand when they say AAAAHHH Then think twice,, when people say Amen..... God said let there be light, was the vibration that was created so high that it created light? Also the AHHHH makes a star pattern... in occult the star symbolizes magic... the original meaning of AMEN may of been Starman! or Magic Man! So to say amen originally may of meant calling someone else a star seed, or a star man. I know it's sort of off topic, but I wanted to bring up the importance of sound, and voice. ALSO ooohhh if you look, it makes a portal... so when you are ohming.. you are creating a portal to a higher density to allow energy to flow more freely between each density. It's hard to disprove stuff like this, because you can see it as you do it. Has anyone tried taking sand putting it on a drum, and then ohming or aaahhhing? RE: Speculation on Corey Goode and Blue Avians - Infinite - 09-19-2019 Useful link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&fbclid=IwAR1Og6U0bFGdYo26TzngsV_QyFs3stD2HsuWyHZGZJuoc-MzfUaJ3Fhi9yw |