ColinT Wrote:Probably not. What does concern me is that most ordinary Americans still identify strongly with their national identity.

(07-31-2016, 05:04 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: As an American, I can tell you this whole election is not grounded in the actual desires of the America people, but extremely distorted ones.

Nobody really wants Hilary Clinton as president - in fact, she has to pay people to say that they do. Those who are voting for her are actually voting against Trump and his racist xenophobia, misogyny, and capitalistic views of the environment, mostly. Those who say they want Trump - well, yeah, of course, there are certainly some racist xenophobics. But most of these people are just reacting to what they have seen as a suppression of their freedom of expression - they may not actually believe that different ethnicities are inherently bad, but they really want to defend their right to be able to say such vulgar things, and to watch people squirm in the process.

Please also understand that the majority of the media is also colluding with the Hilary campaign machine. This means everything will constantly sanitize Hilary and make it appear that she has a lot of support - and it also means that they give Trump a disproportionate amount of attention for his antics because again, Clinton has made it clear that she is primarily running her campaign against Trump's ugly ideas. It's a classic set up - Trump and Clinton have been long time friends. He goes on TV and acts like an ass and gets TONS of attention, and it helps her campaign. Win/win. I don't think he ever thought it would go this far (but he's happy to ride the train as far as it will) - because the fact is, the fix is already in for Hilary. We don't have a choice. And I think that's where a lot of Trump's support comes in - Hilary is obviously who the establishment has chosen without our consent, so let's at least try to slander her as far as possible on her way in.

This is a really big catalyst right now for so many Americans, many who have never cared a bit about politics - and it's super fascinating. From my vantage point, I think Bernie would have actually won the election if he had been given a fair and legitimate chance - his ideas are what the majority of people actually desire - progressive socialism.

(07-30-2016, 04:26 PM)ColinT Wrote: > relax into it all playing out.

With this I strongly disagree. Ra did not advise apathy and inaction, nor conflict. Trying to find a middle course is increasingly difficult, the point of my post. What actions CAN be effective in these times?

Jade Wrote:This is a really big catalyst right now for so many Americans, many who have never cared a bit about politics - and it's super fascinating.

Quote:> We don't have a choice.

Well now, honestly my dear, did you really think you were meant to have?

Quote:I think the whole world can't quite believe what they're seeing. I've been in so many conversations where Donald Trump came up, and people generally are appalled at some of his utterances, but they're rooting for him nonetheless because the prospect of Clinton as president is scarier. She is synonymous with war and bloodshed. No-one can forget "we came, we saw, he died" and then bursting out in laughter. We just cannot have another Middle Eastern country bombed to smithereens, and who knows who's next on "her list", probably Iran if her rhetoric is any indication, and with Iran things will be a little different, because Russia will not stand idly by if Iran is attacked, they're allies of sorts, at least in their opposition to US hegemony. The Russian intervention in Syria was already a message to the war hawks in Washington. And the lies, lies, lies which she constantly get caught out with.

The Chinese have a curse "may you live in interesting times". If I was American I would vote for anyone standing against Hillary, and if that's Trump, then so be it... never thought I'd say this. At least with him it's what you see is what you get, because he just doesn't have a guard in front of his mouth. As per usual it's choosing between the lesser of two evils.

Quote:As an aside, does the name Bring4th_Jade have anything to do with the group Jade Warrior? Their albumn Way of the Sun is a favourite of the period. The last track Death of Ra has always had a special significance for me since encountering The Ra Material since it causes me contemplate the culmination that Ra claims to anticipate in a few million years as it/they attain transition from 8dV to 9dV, or 6th to 7th Density. What an experience that must be!

Jade Wrote:If you watch the documentary Clinton Money, it shows the Clinton Foundation receives large sums of money from warlords in Congo and Haiti, as well as others. I think these are the places that Hillary will focus on when she takes over.

Quote:Ra said something about Russians taking over, didn't they?

(08-01-2016, 09:59 AM)YinYang Wrote:

Jade Wrote:If you watch the documentary Clinton Money, it shows the Clinton Foundation receives large sums of money from warlords in Congo and Haiti, as well as others. I think these are the places that Hillary will focus on when she takes over.

Sheesh, with Congo specifically it just makes my blood boil, because I'm so familiar with that country's story. Eve Ensler is quite involved there with the rape victims, she's doing an amazing job. Did you know that the uranium for both atom bombs dropped during WW2 comes out of Congo? Katanga Panhandle is like a geological quirk in terms of mineral riches.

Quote:I am following the election coverage like its crack cocaine. The first time I've been sucked in like this. I am not really sure why, but it seems mainly just because it's entertaining to me.

Quote:Ra said something about Russians taking over, didn't they?

Quote:65.6 Questioner: Would the coming changes as we progress into fourth density— I’m speaking of changes not only in the physical third-density planet due to the heating effect but also the changes that are heralding fourth-density vibrations such as the ability of people to perform what we term paranormal activities— I’m assuming that both of these are also and will act as catalyst to create a greater seeking. Is this correct?


Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. The paranormal events occurring are not designed to increase seeking but are manifestations of those whose vibratory configuration enables these entities to contact the gateway to intelligent infinity. These entities capable of paranormal service may determine to be of such service on a conscious level. This, however, is a function of the entity and its free will and not the paranormal ability.

The correct portion of your statements is the greater opportunity for service due to the many changes which will offer many challenges, difficulties, and seeming distresses within your illusion to many who then will seek to understand, if we may use this misnomer, the reason for the malfunctioning of the physical rhythms of their planet.

Moreover, there exist probability/possibility vortices which spiral towards your bellicose actions. Many of these vortices are not of the nuclear war but of the less annihilatory but more lengthy so-called “conventional” war. This situation, if formed in your illusion, would offer many opportunities for seeking and for service.

65.7 Questioner: How would conventional warfare offer the opportunities for seeking and service?

Ra: I am Ra. The possibility/probabilities exist for situations in which great portions of your continent and the globe in general might be involved in the type of warfare which you might liken to guerrilla warfare. The ideal of freedom from the so-called invading force of either the controlled fascism or the equally controlled social common ownership of all things would stimulate great quantities of contemplation upon the great polarization implicit in the contrast between freedom and control. In this scenario which is being considered at this time/space nexus the idea of obliterating valuable sites and personnel would not be considered an useful one. Other weapons would be used which do not destroy as your nuclear arms would. In this ongoing struggle the light of freedom would burn within the mind/body/spirit complexes capable of such polarization. Lacking the opportunity for overt expression of the love of freedom, the seeking for inner knowledge would take root aided by those of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow which remember their calling upon this sphere.

65.8 Questioner: Are you saying then that this possible condition of war would be much more greatly spread across the surface of the globe than anything we have experienced in the past and therefore touch a larger percentage of the population in this form of catalyst?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. There are those now experimenting with one of the major weapons of this scenario, that is the so-called psychotronic group of devices which are being experimentally used to cause such alterations in wind and weather as will result in eventual famine. If this program is not countered and proves experimentally satisfactory, the methods in this scenario would be made public. There would then be what those whom you call Russians hope to be a bloodless invasion of their personnel in this and every land deemed valuable. However, the peoples of your culture have little propensity for bloodless surrender.

(08-01-2016, 01:25 PM)YinYang Wrote: Actually, China is South Africa's biggest trading partner, and our political ties are equally strong, which is why we denied the Dalai Lama a visa. Something which caused major outrage here. We have had a "look East policy" since the end of apartheid.

Quote:As for war drums and trade considerations, China has published in their state owned newspaper that war with the US is looking increasingly likely if the US doesn't back off in the South China Sea situation, so naturally trade doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. I should also have mentioned when I said "BRICS" in a war situation, I mostly refer to a Russian/China alliance, SA and Brazil hardly have military capability to speak of, which is just wonderful.

Quote:China has been South Africa’s largest trading partner since 2010, with a total trade volume of R270 billion in 2013.