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A possible future dark night of the soul? - Cannon - 04-05-2017
What happens to the saint (edit: a 'saint' being a person who is completely polarized in service to others) who lives to serve the other, when he or she discovers through the Law of One that there are no others?
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - sjel - 04-05-2017
I think you are talking about the ego rather than the deep Self. There is no other deep Self, that is true, but the deep Self is infinitely fulfilling. There is no loneliness in the deep Self. There is only loneliness when stuck in the ego.
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Cannon - 04-05-2017
Thank you, I hadn't considered that.
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Aki "Hkelukka" Greus - 04-05-2017
(04-05-2017, 03:36 PM)Cannon Wrote: What happens to the saint who lives to serve the other when he or she discovers through the Law of One that there are no others?
You take another breath
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Bearly - 04-05-2017
As I have grasped it, there are individualized portions from the ONE, the service being done from one portion to another.
Service cannot be given if it is not requested first (speaking about STO not STS), for it depends on the true desire of the one being served.
So the "saint" at realizing there is no separation, also understands that when his service is not needed he can rest with the creation in a balanced manner or can choose to return to the creator by graduating all the octaves.
I don't really know though what your concept of a 'saint' is. If you mean someone polarized completely to STO or someone who has achieved enough mastery in order to mantain an unobstructed flux of the one through himself and perform "miracles". (e.g. Jesus, Buddha, etc.)
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Cannon - 04-05-2017
(04-05-2017, 04:36 PM)Bearly Wrote: I don't really know though what your concept of a 'saint' is. If you mean someone polarized completely to STO or someone who has achieved enough mastery in order to mantain an unobstructed flux of the one through himself and perform "miracles". (e.g. Jesus, Buddha, etc.)
I apologize for being so imprecise. I meant the former.
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 04-05-2017
(04-05-2017, 03:36 PM)Cannon Wrote: What happens to the saint (edit: a 'saint' being a person who is completely polarized in service to others) who lives to serve the other, when he or she discovers through the Law of One that there are no others?
If I might be of aid... I'd like to paraphrase.
What happens to a person who lives to serve others, when s/he discovers through experience through the Law of One that there are no others?
They'd probably have an ever easier time being of service considering that the joy they recieve from helping another is the same if they'd have helped themselves only twofold. Greater than the sum of, you could say.
They'd also probably be met with greater catalyst, and ultimately would be driven back to an egoic central consciousness like a rubber band. What goes up must come down, what moves away ultimately comes back. Source to source.
Or nothing at all would happen, they'd just faithfully continue about the life they find themselves in.
Or, they begin to discover themselves in others, and begin to 'learn thyself' through discovering parts of thyself in others.
Who knows, we're all pretty unique lol
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Agua del Cielo - 04-05-2017
I'd also guess someone who is polarized 100% positive has not only read about oneness but probably experienced it.
I experienced oneness long before i discovered the Law of One (oneness is actually the Law of One, i meant the Ra material here) and i am not completely at 100% yet
I dont even know if i am close to 50 percent...or 40...
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - AnthroHeart - 04-05-2017
There's a difference between knowing there is only One, and understanding the One.
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Bearly - 04-06-2017
(04-05-2017, 10:20 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: There's a difference between knowing there is only One, and understanding the One.
Well, yes. That is usually what separates awakened/enlightened individuals from the ones still sleeping.
Intellectual knowing can cause much confusion and most probably will take you in circles for a long time.
The real knowing/understanding can only be gained not told or given.
So, yes. Indeed there is a difference.
RE: A possible future dark night of the soul? - Nau7ik - 04-09-2017
The saint realizes that the "other" is the Creator, as are all others and the self. The saint seeks to match his will with the Creator's will. He serves with a full and open heart as the winds of spirit call him to his best and highest service. The mystery deepens across the densities.
As was said above, there's the intellectual understanding that all is one. Then there is gnosis, direct apprehension of the unity of Creation. You "KNOW" all is one. That's at the level of higher self.
That's how I see it.