Quote:Questioner: Can you tell me the reason for this shortening of life span?

Ra: I am Ra. The causes of this shortening are always an ineuphonious or inharmonious relational vibration between other-selves. In the first cycle this was not severe, but due to the dispersion of peoples and the growing feeling complex/distortions towards separateness from other-selves.

Quote:Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization on such a positively polarized planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war.

Quote:Ra:In the case of which you speak, these entities were strongly polarized orange ray, thus finding the energy blockage of power over others, the putting to death being the ultimate power over others; this then being expressed in a sexual manner, though solitary.

(07-30-2017, 12:13 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Thank you for sharing your perspective, MangusKhan. The reason that male ducks and roosters are so aggressive, unfortunately, is that we have bred these animals explicitly to exploit their reproductive systems, which leads to extremely high hormone levels. We justify killing roosters because they are aggressive, but we actually have made them to be this way. Very sad.

(07-30-2017, 12:30 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: My friend has 6 roosters that she rescued from a cockfighting ring - there were almost 60 seized in Denver, and held in evidence for several months. (All of them were successfully adopted out!) She keeps them in separate enclosures and hopes to work with resocializing them into a flock someday - other sanctuaries have done it - but unfortunately these poor guys are often injected with meth, so all of their temperament problems are exacerbated even more...

(07-30-2017, 11:58 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: I always bless and thank the animal before and after the act as well. I'm not sure what kind of karma this activity entails, but I rest firmly in the feeling that what I'm doing absolutely has to be better than simply going to the grocer and picking up meat from a tortured animal you never even had to look at, killed without blessing or even basic respect. Just thought I'd offer a perspective from someone who actually slaughters their own meat, to show that eating meat is not in all cases a heinous activity, and does not necessitate any more suffering than they would encounter naturally, in fact it creates less if they are reared and slaughtered in respectful ways.

(07-30-2017, 11:58 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: It is a wonderful thing to be able to serve up a big duck dinner to your friends and family, knowing that the animal lived and died in a way which you see fit.

(07-30-2017, 01:01 PM)Diana Wrote:

(07-30-2017, 11:58 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: I always bless and thank the animal before and after the act as well. I'm not sure what kind of karma this activity entails, but I rest firmly in the feeling that what I'm doing absolutely has to be better than simply going to the grocer and picking up meat from a tortured animal you never even had to look at, killed without blessing or even basic respect. Just thought I'd offer a perspective from someone who actually slaughters their own meat, to show that eating meat is not in all cases a heinous activity, and does not necessitate any more suffering than they would encounter naturally, in fact it creates less if they are reared and slaughtered in respectful ways.

I think we all agree that this way of consuming animals is a huge step up from participating in the cruelty of factory farms.

(07-30-2017, 11:58 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: It is a wonderful thing to be able to serve up a big duck dinner to your friends and family, knowing that the animal lived and died in a way which you see fit.

The above bolded is the part I don't resonate with. No disrespect to you MangusKhan, as I do respect the fact that you take responsibility. But the animal's life is not about what the human sees as fit, in my opinion it should be about what the animal sees as fit.

I think animals should be free. In this I may differ with the majority. But would anyone here want to live imprisoned all their lives, even if the prison were really cozy and friendly (think of The Truman Show)? Fish in aquariums, zoos, circuses, rodeos, and here we jump forward to things such as cock fighting and bull fights. We may all agree that cock fighting is bloody and horrible, but what about a fish in an aquarium? It seems okay, right? But to me it isn't. The fish's life is controlled; it eats the food it's fed; its environment is monotonous; it encounters nothing out of the day-to-day limitations. Okay, so it's only a fish, and one might think they don't know anything anyway. But it will not get to experience a full fish life—exploring the waters; the thrill of finding food and escaping predators, mating in a natural setting—these things are the fish's birthright. That mating in zoos is often unsuccessful is a clue that there is something wrong.

Humans have been using animals for food and entertainment a long time. I would love to see all factory-farmed animals released from their misery in some compassionate way. I would also love to see rodeo animals, circus animals, greyhound dogs and horses bred for tracks, zoo animals, roosters bred to fight, bulls kept for bull riding and bull fights, aquarium fish and dolphins and whales, exotic pets such as macaws and toucans taken from rainforests, laboratory animals, all released from captivity in a compassionate way.

(07-30-2017, 12:30 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Also, I know a lot of people who rescue chickens/roosters, and there are implants that you can get for them - even for the males - that help manage their hormone levels. If that's ever something you're interested in down the line.

My friend has 6 roosters that she rescued from a cockfighting ring - there were almost 60 seized in Denver, and held in evidence for several months. (All of them were successfully adopted out!) She keeps them in separate enclosures and hopes to work with resocializing them into a flock someday - other sanctuaries have done it - but unfortunately these poor guys are often injected with meth, so all of their temperament problems are exacerbated even more...

(07-30-2017, 01:30 PM)MangusKhan Wrote: Edit: So I see you saw my post in the garden thread and that's probably influenced your thoughts here.

(07-30-2017, 02:17 PM)Diana Wrote:

(07-30-2017, 01:30 PM)MangusKhan Wrote: Edit: So I see you saw my post in the garden thread and that's probably influenced your thoughts here.

Actually, no. I was speaking generally.

(07-30-2017, 02:10 PM)YinYang Wrote: We've had an extremely turbulent chapter in our family with a dog when we were kids . . . To this day, I want nothing to do with any terrier breed.

(07-30-2017, 02:22 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:

(07-30-2017, 02:17 PM)Diana Wrote:

(07-30-2017, 01:30 PM)MangusKhan Wrote: Edit: So I see you saw my post in the garden thread and that's probably influenced your thoughts here.

Actually, no. I was speaking generally.

Oh.. well I still want you to know that I really love these ducks and just want the best for them when I'm not eating them.

(07-30-2017, 02:10 PM)YinYang Wrote: We've had an extremely turbulent chapter in our family with a dog when we were kids . . . To this day, I want nothing to do with any terrier breed.

(07-30-2017, 03:08 PM)YinYang Wrote: Diana, I'm not spreading stories of fear regarding animals, this has happened to me, a chapter lasting years in my family. All these stories are part of the tapestry of life.

Different dog breeds are very interesting to me, their different temperaments. I wonder about these things... are they all descendants of wolves? So different in appearance and temperament?

If I tell you I've been chased by a lion, am I spreading stories of fear regarding animals?

PS. I like organic conversation, one thing leads to another. Let's stay spontaneous.

(07-30-2017, 03:27 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I think YinYang's point was to show another example of how we have really messed up the genetics of a lot of our domesticated animals to suit our selfish desires.

Quote:The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication, of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.

(07-30-2017, 04:21 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:

Quote:The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication, of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.

If you are anything Diana, I believe you are very genuine and honest to your true self. <3 Even if you feel as if sometimes you are misunderstood, I don't think that issue resides on your end.

(07-30-2017, 04:35 PM)Diana Wrote:

(07-30-2017, 04:21 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:

Quote:The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication, of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.

If you are anything Diana, I believe you are very genuine and honest to your true self. <3 Even if you feel as if sometimes you are misunderstood, I don't think that issue resides on your end.

Thank you. I do think though that I am responsible to be clear in communication, and try even harder when in a challenging exchange involving defensive or otherwise difficult-to-ineract-with individuals (for example). A mistake I think we all make is to assume. We even do it unconsciously. When I first came here, I assumed many things based on what I'd been exposed to of spiritually oriented philosophies, and of course my own ideas regarding them. If this place has shown me one thing, it woke me up to my own assumptions (which are really expectations).

This above is a great quote.

Diana Wrote:I'm sorry, but you can't control me either, or make me be nice.

(07-31-2017, 05:07 AM)YinYang Wrote: Here's a little present for you! I hope it brightens your day!