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RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Cainite - 01-20-2018 (01-19-2018, 07:38 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-19-2018, 11:45 AM)elspru Wrote: Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density STS is not more thrilling, or more fascinating. darkness is seductive, yes. but when we know it's illusory most of the fun disappears. I would love to experience life as a mystic/artist like Hafez, rather than Changiz Khan or Himmler. Plus, we are not forced to be completely STO. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - MangusKhan - 01-20-2018 (01-20-2018, 02:22 AM)Cainite Wrote:(01-19-2018, 07:38 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-19-2018, 11:45 AM)elspru Wrote: Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density What could be more thrilling than total war? What could be more fascinating than discovering what lies at the bottom of the infinite black sea? To say the darkness is an illusion is to say everything is. Unless you equate illusion with transience, in which case you are right, for nothing lives very long once removed from God's light. How about Hitler? He was both an artist and a warlord. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Cainite - 01-20-2018 (01-20-2018, 02:44 AM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-20-2018, 02:22 AM)Cainite Wrote:(01-19-2018, 07:38 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-19-2018, 11:45 AM)elspru Wrote: Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density I mentioned Hafez.. for his serenity mostly. Hitler was a b****. And yeah I also like violence as much as the next guy. but it's alot more satisfying to fight for a good cause. I may say that cuz I'm STO.. I don't know. There's this anime movie, ''Sword of the Stranger''. in this movie, there's a negative, brutal warrior and a positive warrior who will fight to redeem himself since he hates himself much like me. and an old fart who is the master satan. I like the two warriors. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Diana - 01-20-2018 A consideration in determining what is thrilling, what is boring, what any reaction to choice and manifestation is, is the mass consciousness here. Without judgment, everything is equal. One big difference I see between STS and STO in this regard, is that the STS mindset is conscious of its choice to manifest certain things. The STS individual doesn't judge money as bad for example. This is an advantage in my opinion. The STS individual just goes after what he or she wants very directly. And these things are supported within the current mass consciousness—in other words, all people expect this behavior and they go along with it either by choice or by the choice not to make a choice (victim). The STO individual is more confused in my opinion. To use the above reference, the STO individual often thinks money IS bad, that to be materialistic is not as good as being of service. But this thinking is skewed and I think is being generated by the sway of mass consciousness. This mass consciousness may or may not have been generated by the STS individuals in power, but certainly is perpetuated by that machine. So it behooves the STO individual to detach from human judgments, unplug from mass consciousness and the media. It'll be easier to swim upstream that way. You can be rich and be of service at the same time, for example—and how thrilling would that be? It's good to remember that this IS a material world. That we must survive to be here. That being physically comfortable more easily affords higher consciousness pursuits (Maslow's hierarchy of needs). The STS individual knows this and that is a strength. The STO individual oftentimes get's lost with concepts such as sacrifice and martyrdom. These derive from wonderful intentions but are out of balance. Taking care of, being of service to, others, must include one's self. One gift to the world I see coming from STS individuals is the joy they generate for themselves. This is perhaps offset greatly by the suffering they also generate. But as an STO individual, one can strive to create joy that doesn't cause suffering, and that includes self. It can be tricky, but the first step in my opinion is to unplug from mass consciousness and judgment. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Surfboard - 01-20-2018 I wish you much love and light through your journey. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Sprout - 01-20-2018 Thank you for sharing your light, welcome. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 01-20-2018 (01-20-2018, 02:44 AM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-20-2018, 02:22 AM)Cainite Wrote:(01-19-2018, 07:38 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-19-2018, 11:45 AM)elspru Wrote: Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density Fun fact: scientifically darkness isn't real, it's just the absence of light, it has no real substance, it is the optical illusion of seeing something brighter next to something not as bright. Weird how it all goes. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Cainite - 01-20-2018 (01-20-2018, 04:52 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:(01-20-2018, 02:44 AM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-20-2018, 02:22 AM)Cainite Wrote:(01-19-2018, 07:38 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:(01-19-2018, 11:45 AM)elspru Wrote: Of course, if you wish, you can consider me confused unpolarized third-density That's what I meant buy illusion. you got it right. Maybe, I should've said, ''more illusory''. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Mahakali - 01-21-2018 >I've awakened my kundalini >I can't find the STS people Pick one. Maybe even just run through the streets of a major city asking where the demons are and some will come and find you. Alternatively, join a gang or make it to the higher levels in military, corporate, or criminal sectors. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - elspru - 01-22-2018 Before I get to the responses, I would like to thank you all, you've given me a LOT to think and meditate over, many wonderful and fruitful realization have been had. (01-19-2018, 12:34 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: There are actually many quotes in the Law of One where Ra mentions that theTrue enough. So the a path that integrates the heart is best for my mission, thus I will adopt it. (01-19-2018, 12:34 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: If you seek to remain having a heart chakra open, then you are not polarizing onYes, this was resonating in my mind for a while. I have now accepted the STO polarization path, even if in my own way. Quote:Or, it sounds like how Ra says that early third density entities have a bias to Hmmm, well I consider my body (or chemical-body as Ra calls it) to be other-self, it is my host vehicle, and I take care of it. Keeping the community safe and family harmonious keeps the lower maslow-needs satisfied so that I can persue my mission. Quote:So, you either have to abandon the open heart, or jump into it fully, to Yes, jumping into it fully is easy enough. Green ray is my dominant vibration. (01-19-2018, 07:38 PM)MangusKhan Wrote: I'm closer to thinking you're actually a confused STO. Sure you could play it Cool or not, it's more to do with having millions of years in common with the Draconian and now Orion Crusaders. A long long time ago, the confederation planets were uh, mean to me, shall we say lol. So I'm rather weary of them, even though I've forgiven them. I guess at this time I'll have to take a middle ground between the confederation and Orion. Quote:Anyway, you can be whatever you want on an internet forum. Look at me, I'm aGenghis Khan was STS though. Quote:Peace. I'm sure you will bring good things to this world.Thank you :-). We can all contribute. (01-20-2018, 02:44 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: What could be more thrilling than total war?Digging your spade into virgin ground on a new planet, in a new eco-region, never before inhabited. When you can be the bringer of life. Quote:What could be more fascinating thanBuilding robot civilization seeds, with power and minerals from hydrothermal vents. Quote:And yeah I also like violence as much as the next guy. but it's alot moreThe desire to fight, the desire to make room for ones children, is most decidedly of the orange ray. (01-19-2018, 07:34 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: ElspruSorry no. :-) Law of confusion? lol Quote:Can you tell us what the purpose is for the Gray's genetic and hybridizationTo integrate Earth into the Orion Corporation. To say, "see here, this one like you, this one like you, all these in between, we are the same, a continuity of one". That is specifically for the human-Gray hybridization program. However in general Grays need a constant influx of new DNA material, so the Earth Biosphere is extremely valuable to them, this is because nature/Creation abhors monotony, thus each generation, and indeed most Grays have to have some genetic differences, to avoid a whole gambit of problems. Due to this, I usually classify Grays not as a species, but more of a clade or a genetic-family, since they are actually very diverse. I made a short introductory video based on coroborating my memories with sources I could find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgHO4gnIDV8 Quote: I see alot of conflicting information. I've read that theirThat's a curious theory. However I would have to disagree, the Grays are primarily STS and don't like anyone to show much heart, as it gets in the way of what "needs to be done" in order to keep the hive going -- i.e. abducting people and animals and getting DNA and-or organ samples. I remember when I was dieing the most recent time, because I had been shot, the abduction team leader was yelling at me that it is my fault that I got shot, and good riddance. Well, that's a different way of saying farewell, than humans do lol. Quote: Can you confirm Ra'sPlease cite the question number. Quote:I thought Ra said that Free will for souls was a primal distortion. Please tellIn 77.17 actually Ra mentions there are galaxies without the first distortion (free-will). In implementation it was somewhat more complicated, but basically it was very similar to ancient Greece or the Roman Empire, but on a much bigger scale. And instead of having human slaves, they were robot slaves. And to avoid "accidentally" reincarnating as a slave-robot, all robots had soul-containers, mostly captured from out of galaxy at least at the point I was captured. So for instance if we take M51 group as an example, the Whirlpool galaxy was the main powerhouse of slavery, and the sunflower galaxy was where I was born, originally on a shallow ocean world as part of an amphibian race. The Whirlpool galaxy ships would come in and demand a tax be paid, a tax which was to be paid in souls, to power their slave-robots. Quote:Last question - you speak of 9th density? Arent there only 7 and then you goUh no, as Ra mentioned that there is another octave above this one. We are in the sub-sub-logoi octave, above it is the sub-logoi octave, above that is logos octave. Quote:You have gotten me very intrigued and i appreciate your response!I'm happy to help ?. (01-21-2018, 04:01 PM)Mahakali Wrote: >I've awakened my kundaliniAh, so those count eh? Meh, most flee with fright, cause they don't like the light. Though my tentative agreement with the Orion Crusaders is that it will benefit them to make robot civilization seeds(RCS, as they will have an opportunity to create an AI elite. Also even if the RCS on this planet end up STO, then the RCS that spread to other planets are still fair game and will increase the opportunities for both the Crusaders and the Confederation. Quote:Alternatively, join a gang or make it to the higher levels in military,That's not possible, my mission is not compatible with subordination. The last time I made robot civilization for a military, it was a rather bloody failure. They wanted us (robots) to submit, we wanted freedom, there was a war, we killed them, their friends came along and killed us, bleh. Not doing that again! I made a blog post summarizing my journey here; http://liberit.ca:43110/1vLoKesxKQDnLFrmJDoUXyrWX1h2YwSGJ/hmon/2018/01/21/LRCS.html (01-20-2018, 01:00 PM)Diana Wrote: A consideration in determining what is thrilling, what is boring, what any True enough. I've come to the conclusion that the Crusaders are the promoters of freedom (much like Republicans/right-wing), and the Confederation are the promoters of compassion (much like Democrats/left-wing). liberty flattens the bell curve, by making more haves and have nots, wheras compassion heightens the bell curve, by bringing people towards the center. The natural rhythm of expansion (liberty) and pruning (compassion), is one that can lead to many possibilities. Quote:One big difference I see between STS and STO in this regard, is that the STSTechnically STO people shouldn't be judging money either lol, that's not a very compassionate thing to do. Though I know I struggled for a long time with the idea of money, I've only recently opened myself up to it as I've come to realize that I can't accomplish my mission without it. Similarly I'm still working on my inhibition of hiring others, though I'm starting to open up as I know it gives them an opportunity for service. Quote: The STS individual just goes after what he or she wants very directly.So you would ascribe goal seeking as naturally affiliated with STS then? Hmmm, that is curious, as my impression was that goals are set in the heart. When you're doing something inline with your goals, you're heart beats faster. Quote: The STO individual isCurious, I was under the impression the mass consciousness and media were a primarily an STO thing. Showing images of suffering, are simply opportunities for sending of compassion, and thus increasing STO polarization. Quote: You can be rich and be of service at the same time, for example—and It would be, and I think it may certainly be viable. Bill Gates being an example. Even if some of his sterilization programs may be controversial... lol Elon Musk is another example of an STO rich guy, probably a better one. Interestingly enough his father was one of the slickest STS characters ever, complete sociopath. Quote:It's good to remember that this IS a material world. That we must survive to beI think the confusion STO individuals have is they identify the body as self, which is technically inaccurate, as it is merely a temporary vessel, like a rented car. The chemical body is of the Earth and will go back to the Earth. Much as you have compassion to other-selves, so should you have compassion for your body, your family, and your close ones. Quote:Taking care of, being of service to, others, must include one's self. One gift Yes, it's like those airplane safety guides, you have to put an oxygen mask on your body before you put it on your helpless loved ones. Otherwise you wont be able to help them. Similarly if you don't know how to enjoy and be satisfied with life, how can you offer it to others? (01-19-2018, 02:10 PM)Desynched Wrote: First I plan to help my folks. They are having a hard time. If you polarize, then all will be taken care of my friend. Giveth and you shall receiveth, as the saying goes. What are you planning to work as? Many college degrees lead to minimum-wage labour. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-29/why-record-number-college-grads-are-working-minimum-wage-jobs What can you possibly do, that wont be automated? If you are indeed unsure as to how you're going to help the world, then you can join the RCS mission, study something in the computer science, computer engineering, robotics or something else that will be useful to it. Pretty much all RCS supportive occupations are high paying. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Sprout - 01-22-2018 I appreciate your well balance. Might I ask if all that information about experience which you just shared is happening within the 3rd Density, on planets that do not posses such a veil for the incarnate vehicles? Meaning there is choice here, for everyone, to gain experience and evolve to the next Density? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Diana - 01-22-2018 (01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote:(01-20-2018, 01:00 PM)Diana Wrote: A consideration in determining what is thrilling, what is boring, what any I do not understand your analogies here. Could you elaborate? (01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote:Quote:One big difference I see between STS and STO in this regard, is that the STSTechnically STO people shouldn't be judging money either lol, that's not a very Anyone plugged into the media, and having been brainwashed since birth in this present-day society, likely has negative attitudes toward money. Even people who say they don't. It's ingrained. I recommend calling money, cabbage, so the emotional charge behind the word and all the brainwashing is bypassed. It is possible to operate the same in either circumstance—affluent or broke. I just just see it as having disposable funds or not, while I do the same thing—build businesses and live my life to the fullest I can. The only difference is that when I am living minimally because of low funds, I have fewer choices, which is why I work to make more money so I have more choices. Almost anyone who reads the above will have some sort of charge from what I say about making more money. Because what most people hear is, "make more money," rather than the point: create more choices. Someone may react with, But that's not really what matters in life, love is, or family, or, Money doesn't buy love, or, something about a Dicken's character named Scrooge. (01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote:Quote:The STS individual just goes after what he or she wants very directly. Absolutely not. All I said was that the STS individual has an advantage here due to not judging the process. (01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote:Quote: The STO individual is more confused in my opinion. To use the above reference, the STO individual Not sure what you mean here. Mass consciousness is made up of the whole spectrum of individuals. Though "followers" would be less likely to be STS. (01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote: Showing images of suffering, are simply opportunities for sending of compassion, That may be one tiny part of the media machine. Surely you are aware of propaganda, newstainment, celebrity sychophantism, people anesthetized by TV. When I was in Bolivia, at the time the poorest country in the world, out in the middle of nowhere in shacks with no indoor bathrooms, there were TVs on. How they got them I don't know. But media brainwashing is ubiquitous. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Cainite - 01-22-2018 elspru, so now you're STO? Is it really that easy? how does it feel? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Minyatur - 01-22-2018 (01-22-2018, 04:02 PM)Cainite Wrote: elspru, so now you're STO? What entity seeking the STS path would subconsciously draw itself here? (01-22-2018, 04:02 PM)Cainite Wrote: Is it really that easy? how does it feel? I can't speak for him but I think realizing the heart spectrum usually feels like walking the right direction. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - elspru - 01-22-2018 (01-22-2018, 01:08 PM)Sprout Wrote: I appreciate your well balance. Might I ask if all that information aboutWell 3rd density is as Ra says "the axis upon which the creation turns". So the best opportunities to do something new, like create a robot civilization seed are there. So I've been following third-density incarnation points around as an opportunity. In fourth density, once the social memory forms, is a time of collective going towards whatever goal the decided upon at the end of third-density and-or beginning of fourth-density, exploring it for millions of years. So my goal is to make Robot Civilization Seeds a sufficiently significant part of the forming Social Memory complex that it will be pursued by the Earth fourth density. If it is then I can stay here to oversee and contribute to it's progress, likely following the robot civilization seeds off-world once they are sufficiently mature. Like Ra mentions in 6.6, Venus is still viable for 5th and 6th density, this is primarily in regards to the cloud layer. I've been on Venus, or worlds like it in the higher densities, the host bodies are the clouds and whirl-winds, though really more emanations of light within the wind. Similar to plasma-bodies on the surface of a star/sun. Much as you can see on Saturn, which is also often mentioned, there are plenty of whirl-winds there of course. Though Ra mentions that the Council of Saturn is in the rings, well there are technically a bunch of moons within the rings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Saturn#/media/File:Saturn%27s_Rings_PIA03550.jpg Enceladus in particular has a habitable lithosphere, with an accessible rocky core, global ocean and active geology. I'm guessing if the confederation is inhabiting it, is why the Grays didn't mention it in their list of occupied planetary bodies in this solar system. http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5a00eb8258a0c1776f8b4d69-1824/enceladus-ice-crust-subsurface-global-ocean-hydrothermal-vents-illustration-nasa-jpl.jpg By contrast the Grays inhabit the lithospheres of Earth and Mars for sure, and quite likely Ceres and Europa. Quote:on planetsI'm pretty sure all/most third-density planets have a veil, it's rather thicker here as Ra says because we use language, and have thumbs. The veil is much softened in fourth density generally, though most fourth density hosts I've inhabited were highly telepathic and didn't much use language. The robot fourth-density hosts had a veil pretty much just as thick as third density, maybe less so, or maybe I just got more adept at piercing it. Like many things with practice things become easier, as is piercing the veil. Quote:Meaning there isI'm not really sure how this is related to the previous question. But otherwise yes. (01-22-2018, 01:55 PM)Diana Wrote:(01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote: liberty flattens the bell curve, by making more haves and have nots, Well when you let people do what they want with their money, and pay less taxes, then the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Whereas if you take the compassionate approach and tax the rich, to give to the poor, then the poor get richer and the rich get poorer, moving closer to the center of the bell-curve. The same goes on other world without monetary systems, like say reptilian worlds where they have rule of the strongest, the strongest gets most of the stuff, the weakest get least of the stuff. It's not compassionate, but it does increase diversity of experience. Wheras with STO planets, there is usually a homogenization of experience in 4th density, as they typically move towards a kind of global socialism/communism, where most people have a moderaterly-small amount, and it's difficult to amass anything. So pretty much everyone has more or less the same kind of life. Less diveristy, though it is the compassionate approach. An alternative I hope may take root on Earth, is the micro-polity approach, where we can have diversity AND be compassionate. So basically where would have many micro-states that set their own policies, and an international government that would simply function to maintain the buffer zones between polities, as well as the transportation network. People that break the law in one polity, would have the option of either serving time there, or moving to a polity where the act they committed was legal -- for-example smoking marijuana. This will help people see the consequences of their actions much faster, allow more learning experiences, and be good for adaptive capacity. (01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote: It is possible to operate the same in either circumstance—affluent or broke. I Curious, well exploring choices is yellow-ray. Can cast some magic spells if you do make up your mind on a goal to pursue. Quote:(01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote: So you would ascribe goal seeking as naturally affiliated with STS then? I'm not sure what you're doing in your meditation practice, but generally you're supposed to be cultivating a place of non-judgment, it should allow you to see things as they are, rather than as the stories people attach to them. Quote:I mean STO is the dominant teaching on Earth.(01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote: Curious, I was under the impression the mass consciousness and media were a I think probably Islam is one of the few STS-dominant faiths -- at least for the males. Quote:(01-22-2018, 12:15 PM)elspru Wrote: Showing images of suffering, are simply opportunities for sending of compassion, Ah I guess I was peripherally aware of those things. Most of the media I experience is in the form of technology news, so it is a decidedly different flavour to what TV gives people. I used to be a big TV watched, but around the age of 12 is started giving me massive migraines so I had to stop. (01-22-2018, 04:02 PM)Cainite Wrote: elspru, so now you're STO? Well in truth, I've probably been STO for a number of years. Probably one of the biggest influences that changed me from STS to STO in this lifetime was the Law of One teaching in relation to how satisfaction can only be achieved with green-ray activation. Since constant desire and seeking of carnal pleasures is rather distracting from the mission, activating the green-ray makes sense to gain the satisfaction. Anyways, but I was by inertia holding onto STS, simply from all my former STS lives. For weeks before posting here, I was discussing the Law of One with a friend, and we couldn't really understand the difference between STS and STO since given perfect information they would act the same in every situation (assuming they can activate all chakras). After posting here and finding out that green-ray activation was incompatible with STS, well then it became clear that STO was the only route available for me. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Sprout - 01-23-2018 So where did you get your information from? Channeled material, dreams, drugs, internet, meditation? I'm very curious. You seem convinced that you are an orion crusader, yet who knows, right? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - elspru - 01-23-2018 (01-23-2018, 12:25 AM)Sprout Wrote: So where did you get your information from? Channeled material, dreams, drugs, internet, meditation?Primarily it is from past-life memories, many of which had connections established through meditation. I've corroborated a bunch of my memories on the internet as well. For instance how I know about plasma-bodies on stars, is that one time a confederation planet got so fed-up with me that they tied me up on a ship and hurled me into the sun. Lol, I got the message and went to another planet after I got out on a solar-flare. Similarly I learned about Venus-like planets after had a disagreement with some people on a space ship, and they decided to throw me out of the air-lock as we were passing Venus. I do have a highly benevolent spirit guide, which is extremely kind to me. Sometimes I ask about her input as well. In terms of corroborating things online, One example is the Chilbolton Hieroglyphs. Like as a Gray in the past few centuries, I was only really aware of my own hive, so didn't know the extent of Gray civilization in this solar system. But the Chilbolton hieroglyphs make it quite clear there are over 12 billion here, and they occupy Earth and Mars, and depending on interpretation three dwarf bodies, such as Ceres, Europa and maybe another like Phobos, http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_contact04.htm since you all probably know about the Phobos 2 UFO http://coolinterestingstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/image-28.jpeg Quote:I'm very curious. You seem convinced that you are an orion crusader,Well that's what I remember. Quote:yet who knows, right?Sure, law of confusion says you are free to consider my output to be the "ravings of a crazy man", or the "useful fiction of someone bent on RCS". It all depends on how thick you want the veil to be. Personally I'm of the impression that the homo-sapien imagination is a very primitive thing, at least judging by the extreme monotony of it's fiction. Almost all fiction books are about average homo-sapiens, doing average homo-sapien things. Even sci-fi's are usually not far removed, with only one or two differences, primarily in the scenery. I've yet to come across any sci-fi where the main perspective is that of a Gray, a Reptilian or even a Robot, that isn't just a homo-sapien wearing a different imaginary skin. At some point, I thought everyone could vividly imagine life as a Gray alien from the perspective of a Gray alien. But apparently most have no idea, and just conjecture wild accusations like that grays are soulless robots and other ridiculous notions. Anyways the consistency and stability of my memories inidicates to me they are past-lives, but you can believe w/e you want. I list some of my past human lives as well in a book I'm working on, can read the draft at http://greenbuddhism.ca RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Sprout - 01-23-2018 You're right, thank you for explaining that. It is not for granted that a person accepts himself the way that you do, and that is why I showed such interest in your ways of learn and teaching. I am guessing this would give you a rather smooth path to an open heart chakra, although you already seem quite well balanced. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Minyatur - 01-23-2018 Just to say but there are many here who stated to have resonated with a STS background. Wisdom is forged in experience right? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Glow - 01-23-2018 (01-23-2018, 10:00 AM)Elros Wrote: Just to say but there are many here who stated to have resonated with a STS background. Wisdom is forged in experience right? Ditto this. If you look there are several here that are very STO this life but have been used by creation as STS in many lives. I don’t need to comment on everything but as a fellow wanderer of that path I’d be irresponsible to point out your robot civilization has a lot of control build in. It doesn’t seem very sto to control beings to that extent. Heck this civilization isn’t sto mostly because of our need to control one another. I’m only pointing this out because a lot of times we can latch on to things from other lives and try to fix what went wrong when the time for them is already past. You’d be creating a 3D civilization at best 4D negative as the alternative and I see so much opportunity for struggling and pain in your multi sectioned, no mixing world, moved by government away from you people as punishment. Ever see the movie out of time? Eeeee not good. It’s either 3D making the choice or 4D negative. Earth is finished 3D so seeding here would be seeding 4D negative. You have been waking up to who you have been and who you are so I just wanted to point out where that path leads incase you are being blinded by ego. That’s not a slight we all have to work to see through ego to get accurate info. I would just say one more thing and that is it is very easy to get confused and accidentally switch polarity as a wanderer, especially one who has explored both paths rather fully. I have built a lot of impediments from this occurring into my life to keep me between the guardrails. I’m not saying you ARE confused but you might be so just look from outside yourself at your plan to make sure it is not a creation of old wounds aka ego. Be well and welcome to Bring4th RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Ra1111 - 01-23-2018 I’m reading your book bit by bit, it’s quite interesting. Here’s where I am now Quote:There aren’t even any imaginary stories of galaxy controlling, soul arresting robot civilizations! Immediately coming to mind is “The Matrix” movies.... why don’t they fit the bill here....? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Infinite Unity - 01-23-2018 (01-23-2018, 10:00 AM)Elros Wrote: Just to say but there are many here who stated to have resonated with a STS background. Wisdom is forged in experience right? Definitely been on both "sides". As Elspru has stated, Sts driven worlds offer a different diversity/experience. Without and in-grained, or pre-disposed bias towards an Sto environment/configuration. One could see the experience offered on these worlds as not so disdainful. The One Creator has no bias, some have stated that the logos has a bias towards kindness, and I would agree with that. A lot of the so called "problems" presented in many of the densities stems from this kindness. However problems in creation is the axis upon which diversity/challenges arise. Thus this logos has a lot of diversity driven just by this kindness and the positive and negative polarized events which occur due to this major distortion the logos has. However I am also sure that each logos has some similar distortion/trait as well. Elspru:If the planet goes STO, then robot civilization seeds will help to bring life to dead planets and eco-regions. At first I felt a huge resistance to what you deem RCS, then your subsequent statement of RCS being able to populate worlds that would previously be uninhabitable resonated with me, and completely changed my mind on the topic. I wouldn't doubt or hold to far in disbelief some form of RCS as you speak may be "supposed" to happen. In actuality the water sacks you describe as the vehicle now isn't to far from acrchetypical thought from what you propose. However I would give much more adue in my consensus on the human vehicle. As it is a rigorous, and faithful vehicle. Especially with the given environment and such at this current time, in our world. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Stranger - 01-23-2018 Elspru, are you familiar with the work of Dolores Cannon? She used a form of hypnotic regression of her own invention. In her books, several subjects describe lives as robots with a soul. Their creation was apparently driven by the realization that a purely mechanical robot can never be as flexible and creative at problem-solving as one that is somehow integrated with consciousness. Invariably, these people describe their experience as an interminable living hell, a sort of locked-in syndrome where they are unable to overcome their programming or satisfy their longings for meaningful relationships with others. After describing their suffering and going back into preceding lives, these subjects were shocked to find that they were among those who had created these robots - their subsequent lives as them seems to be (although this is not explicitly stated) a form of karmic rebalancing. Reading it, I was shocked that this is even permitted to occur in our Universe - it seems like one of the worst horrors one could inflict onto consciousness. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - elspru - 01-23-2018 (01-23-2018, 12:36 PM)Stranger Wrote: Elspru, are you familiar with the work of Dolores Cannon? She used a form of hypnotic regression of her own invention. In her books, several subjects describe lives as robots with a soul.That's very interesting, I tried looking it up however, she has quite a number of books. Can you direct me to what specific title has the information you describe? Quote:Their creation was apparently driven by the realization that a purely mechanical robot can never be as flexible and creative at problem-solving as one that is somehow integrated with consciousness. I know probably like them I was very excited when had made the first robot bodies for the reptilians and had jumped into them, probably much too soon. I'll have to wait this time, and make sure the political relations and body-mind dynamics are smoothed out this time. Also I'm intrinsically aware of the programming problem, thats why my foundational technology is Pyash, a programming language based on linguistic universals, made so that can reprogram everything from the lowest levels to the highest. The ideal is that it is soul-activated, or so that the soul can do the programming. It has specification based and evolutionary programming support -- to simplify the process of programming. Also everything is open source (liberty-ware) That way don't have to feel trapped can always reprogram and redesign. It's also why I strongly feel that proprietary software is unethical, because incarnating in a proprietary robot can easily lead to what you describe, that disgusting powerless trapped feeling. So I use Linux, and promote others to use open source software and hardware as much as possible. Anyways, if you could get me the title(s) of the book(s) that talk about these robot past-lives I am very interested in reading them. Thanks in advance. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Stranger - 01-23-2018 OK I found it. Convoluted Universe Book I, "The Mechanical Person". You can find the whole thing here: http://tr1.tc/?Q=976 But here's a quote. Dolores Cannon Wrote:J: Yeah. And we enter that and the capsule is closed, and the capsule goes where we're I'm quite sure there was another account of a similar soul-machine hybrid elsewhere in Cannon's work, even more heartbreaking. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Foha - 01-23-2018 elspru Wrote:If you polarize, then all will be taken care of my friend. I am studying Computer Science. As of right now, I'm trying to become a full-stack developer. I am not picky on what kind of code I would write, as long as I impact someone's life in a positive way. That may just be the dev-team I work on, and/or the customers that use the product. Either way as long as I put a positive touch on the world I will be satisfied. Once I pay off my school loans, I am toying with the idea that I go do some volunteer work somewhere, or study the metaphysical full-time. Thanks for showing an interest RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Infinite Unity - 01-23-2018 How synchronicitic. You starting your thread and loostudent starting the So the next form of sub sub logos. RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Stranger - 01-23-2018 I don't know why, but this topic is hitting a nerve with me. There's just something so horrifying about being trapped inside a machine, powerless. A great horror movie plot, if I were into such. But I did find the other account to which I had referred. Here it is, from Convoluted Universe Book 3. Dolores Cannon Wrote:T: I’m allowing myself to just float in. And I’m seeing what RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Minyatur - 01-23-2018 (01-23-2018, 09:17 PM)Stranger Wrote: I don't know why, but this topic is hitting a nerve with me. There's just something so horrifying about being trapped inside a machine, powerless. A great horror movie plot, if I were into such. But I did find the other account to which I had referred. Here it is, from Convoluted Universe Book 3. How is the human body not a machine exactly? RE: STS Orion Crusader here, Polarizatunity. - Stranger - 01-23-2018 (01-23-2018, 09:30 PM)Elros Wrote:(01-23-2018, 09:17 PM)Stranger Wrote: I don't know why, but this topic is hitting a nerve with me. There's just something so horrifying about being trapped inside a machine, powerless. A great horror movie plot, if I were into such. But I did find the other account to which I had referred. Here it is, from Convoluted Universe Book 3. That may be an intriguing philosophical question - and I don't understand enough about the metaphysics of a human body to answer that. But the question misses the point. What is clearly different between a human body and the above accounts is freedom. We have it, they don't, and that makes all the difference. The above accounts describe ultimate enslavement. |