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Should we try to polarize or not? - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2018
If we try to polarize positively, it can oftentimes backfire. We end up not polarizing or going negative.
Is it better just to not try to polarize, and to live our lives doing what we love?
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - xise - 06-27-2018
To answer your question, I believe "should" is always an unhelpful distortion. I often think its better to think in terms of "want" or "desire" rather than should.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2018
So if I want to polarize positively, I do what I love. This should never backfire and I end up finding myself in negative time/space.
I don't think the Logos makes mistakes and you accidentally end up where you do not belong.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - xise - 06-27-2018
So then the question becomes do you want or desire to polarize? I would say that for me, I don't directly desire to polarize; I wish to learn and embody unconditional love and that conveniently also happens to be the way to polarize. I think its more about discovering who you are at the core of your being and then living that truth rather than setting a goal of polarization.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2018
Walking around every day feeling the infinite love of the Universe would be enough for me now.
That is what I want. But I have to approach it as if I already have achieved it.
If I want something, it will always be a wanting and therefore in the future.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - EvolvingPhoenix - 06-27-2018
Thank you for this thread, Indigo.
I've been dealing with he same question myself. I like the answer you came to: "Walk around every day feeling the infinite love of the creator and acting like I already have polarized and been harvested positive" which obviously means LIVING positive, not just pretending.
Thank you!
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Agua - 06-28-2018
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RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Cainite - 06-28-2018
I like to do what I love.
But still I'm very dissatisfied on a physical and emotional level. intellectualy and spiritually I'm kinda fine.
But on an animal level I feel utter dissatisfaction. because I've seen it to be appropriate to avoid intimacy and sexual relationships and expressions of personal love.
One of the reasons for this is to not polarize negatively.. since romantic/sexual relationships are so often pursued by selfishness and ppl usually get hurt, building a karmic structure (did I say that right? lol) and the other good reason is to not to become or make another person attached.
It would work.. for many monks it has worked. but I seek another balance.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Agua - 06-28-2018
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RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Cyan - 06-28-2018
(06-27-2018, 06:28 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: If we try to polarize positively, it can oftentimes backfire. We end up not polarizing or going negative.
Is it better just to not try to polarize, and to live our lives doing what we love?
No
Opportunity should not be looked for, it should be allowed to come to you naturally.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't accept at look for the opportunities immeidately next to you, but you shouldn't "try" to be good. You should try to be yourself, or, evil, but remember always that at least half of what you do should be good.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - loostudent - 06-28-2018
(06-28-2018, 05:21 AM)Agua Wrote: I think there are two ways to "work" with that.
One would be to become a monk.
However that would only avoid the problem and not solve it.
You could evolve pretty far as a monk and maybe be really happy, but the moment you enter a relationship it all will be gone and you will run into the exact same problem as if nothing had happened meanwhile.
The otjer way is to consciously enter a relationship.
With awareness of all the dynamics, the selfishness, the attachment , the hurt and so on.
And then, in the relationship, heal and gradually dissolve these issues.
Probably the fastest way ro evolve I would say
Once I asked myself why more saints, teachers, healers ... are known among people in celibacy and less among married. Despite this Ra said there are some advantages for spiritual growth in family: more opportunities for working with primary catalyst in 3D (other self) and energy transfers of couples. However there is difficult to find time for working with unmanifested self, examination, reflexion ...
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - loostudent - 06-28-2018
(06-28-2018, 05:22 AM)Cyan Wrote: /.../ remember always that at least half of what you do should be good.
I don't know if this is a good idea. If you polarize and then depolarize then you don't polarize at all. I think for STO fundamental choice/intention should always tend towards good (positive) and then realization gradually grows.
Quote:Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Agua - 06-28-2018
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RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Cyan - 06-28-2018
(06-28-2018, 11:09 AM)loostudent Wrote:(06-28-2018, 05:22 AM)Cyan Wrote: /.../ remember always that at least half of what you do should be good.
I don't know if this is a good idea. If you polarize and then depolarize then you don't polarize at all. I think for STO fundamental choice/intention should always tend towards good (positive) and then realization gradually grows.
Quote:Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.
I disagree, in my opinion, such as it is, polarizing one side only results in STS due to there being no good, simply relative. Without using the possibility of looking at the other side you will result in a situation of discomfort grealtly like the story of the 2 people in Venus.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Jim Kent + - 06-28-2018
(06-27-2018, 06:48 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So if I want to polarize positively, I do what I love. This should never backfire and I end up finding myself in negative time/space.
I don't think the Logos makes mistakes and you accidentally end up where you do not belong.
As I understand it, and I'm over-simplifying somewhat, be for / do for / think for / love others slightly more than your self consistently and accept you understand nothing totally / completely and you will graduate beyond third density on the positive / STO path...
I have found that the love for others and yourself generating a harvestable level of polarization often does lead to bliss, but I have found that to maintain this positive polarity and keep the Green-Ray open and active takes constant dedication to the chosen path.
Yes resting is wise and necessary, but if all you do is rest, physically and mentally, even if you've already graduated and become dual-activated, I believe that you might find it difficult to maintain an open / active Green-Ray. Although this perception is bourne from personal experience and certainly might not be true for everyone.
As to whether or not we should polarize, to offer a corny answer, the choice, as ever, is totally yours.
I recon it's worth the effort, but that's just me!
Life on the oh-so crazy / exiting / scary / superb planet is one hell of a rolla-coaster ride for most, graduated or not.
L & L
Jim
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - loostudent - 06-28-2018
(06-28-2018, 11:42 AM)Cyan Wrote: I disagree, in my opinion, such as it is, polarizing one side only results in STS due to there being no good, simply relative. Without using the possibility of looking at the other side you will result in a situation of discomfort grealtly like the story of the 2 people in Venus.
Eventually one path must be abandoned. Sacrifice is necessary. Such is the nature of (free) will/choice/intention.
Quote:In this image of Transformation of Mind, then, each of the females points the way it would go, but is not able to move, nor are the two female entities striving to do so. They are at rest. The conscious entity holds both and will turn itself one way or the other or, potentially, backwards and forwards, rocking first one way then the other and not achieving the transformation. In order for the Transformation of Mind to occur, one principle governing the use of the deep mind must be abandoned. (100.6)
The cross formed by the living limbs of the image signifies that which is the nature of mind/body/spirit complexes in manifestation within your illusion. There is no experience which is not purchased by effort of some kind, no act of service to self or others which does not bear a price, to the entity manifesting, commensurate with its purity. All things in manifestation may be seen in one way or another to be offering themselves in order that transformations may take place upon the level appropriate to the action. (94.26)
There are many among your social memory complex distortion who, at this time/space, engage daily, as you would put it, in the working upon the Law of One in one of its primal distortions; that is, the ways of love. However, if this same entity, being biased from the depths of its mind/body/spirit complex towards love/light, were then to accept responsibility for each moment of the time/space accumulation of present moments available to it, such an entity can empower its progress in much the same way as we described the empowering of the call of your social complex distortion to the Confederation. (10.12)
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - loostudent - 06-28-2018
(06-28-2018, 11:27 AM)Agua Wrote:(06-28-2018, 10:57 AM)loostudent Wrote: Once I asked myself why more saints, teachers, healers ... are known among people in celibacy and less among married. Despite this Ra said there are some advantages for spiritual growth in family: more opportunities for working with primary catalyst in 3D (other self) and energy transfers of couples. However there is difficult to find time for working with unmanifested self, examination, reflexion ...
Could you tephrase that for me, please?
I didnt really understand what you wanted to say :/
Sorry for my bad English. I was comparing the two paths: celibacy and relationship leading to marriage, family.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Cyan - 06-28-2018
(06-28-2018, 01:02 PM)loostudent Wrote:(06-28-2018, 11:42 AM)Cyan Wrote: I disagree, in my opinion, such as it is, polarizing one side only results in STS due to there being no good, simply relative. Without using the possibility of looking at the other side you will result in a situation of discomfort grealtly like the story of the 2 people in Venus.
Eventually one path must be abandoned. Sacrifice is necessary. Such is the nature of (free) will/choice/intention.
Quote:In this image of Transformation of Mind, then, each of the females points the way it would go, but is not able to move, nor are the two female entities striving to do so. They are at rest. The conscious entity holds both and will turn itself one way or the other or, potentially, backwards and forwards, rocking first one way then the other and not achieving the transformation. In order for the Transformation of Mind to occur, one principle governing the use of the deep mind must be abandoned. (100.6)
The cross formed by the living limbs of the image signifies that which is the nature of mind/body/spirit complexes in manifestation within your illusion. There is no experience which is not purchased by effort of some kind, no act of service to self or others which does not bear a price, to the entity manifesting, commensurate with its purity. All things in manifestation may be seen in one way or another to be offering themselves in order that transformations may take place upon the level appropriate to the action. (94.26)
There are many among your social memory complex distortion who, at this time/space, engage daily, as you would put it, in the working upon the Law of One in one of its primal distortions; that is, the ways of love. However, if this same entity, being biased from the depths of its mind/body/spirit complex towards love/light, were then to accept responsibility for each moment of the time/space accumulation of present moments available to it, such an entity can empower its progress in much the same way as we described the empowering of the call of your social complex distortion to the Confederation. (10.12)
And both paths unify at the end.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - unity100 - 06-28-2018
(06-27-2018, 06:28 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: If we try to polarize positively, it can oftentimes backfire. We end up not polarizing or going negative.
Is it better just to not try to polarize, and to live our lives doing what we love?
If there is a necessity and internal drive for an entity to polarize, it must polarize.
Per Ra, wanderers incarnate also from a need to polarize more.
But in the end, every spirit's situation is more or less unique, even if many things coincide with general patterns and common situations, and every spirit must follow its own path towards the infinite.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - Cyan - 06-29-2018
(06-28-2018, 05:26 PM)unity100 Wrote:(06-27-2018, 06:28 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: If we try to polarize positively, it can oftentimes backfire. We end up not polarizing or going negative.
Is it better just to not try to polarize, and to live our lives doing what we love?
If there is a necessity and internal drive for an entity to polarize, it must polarize.
Per Ra, wanderers incarnate also from a need to polarize more.
Far as I can tell, they incarnate with an other self always providing them with opportunity to polarize more, not for an opportunity to look for more polarization. There should be an opportunity to trust the other self that provides the opportunity, and there should be no need to look for more. The way I see it, and this is just my opinion, the opprtunities to do good work should stick out like a sore thumb while the opportunities to polarize towards the self should be infinite and we all start and slowly of our own volition glide to the 100% sto end of the scale if we do nothing but every time we make a movement, if it is unthought of then we polarize towards the self due to the way the brain is built, so when you have an impulse to move you should focus on finding where you find one of those opportunities and use only half of what they have to offer and leave half for the other self.
Never be so greedy you deplete the food population which is the average community of humans, thought in terms of a vampire seeking food it makes perfect sense, then eventually you would sustain yourself on the sweat of the humans who live close to you and automatically do only good deeds due to being there for them to focus on themselves which leads them to be 4th generation humans while you would be a 4th generation vampire away from the holy city and off creating your own paradise which by the joy of making it and combined with the joy of those living in it, would make it paradise for them and a new spirit guide for you for your next journey and via that you would slowly live in every community and have their voice follow you around like a chorus of angels, that is if you go without killing or depleting the food supply with your magic powers. Which leads me to my thread of could everyone make sure their healthcare plans are in good order from the official side of things.
Just what I feel about this.
RE: Should we try to polarize or not? - loostudent - 06-30-2018
(06-28-2018, 04:29 PM)Cyan Wrote: And both paths unify at the end.
Everything has its time.
"For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven." (Ecclesiastes 3:1)