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Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

So when I first read that people could be "tricked" into negative timespace, I've had worries about it that are more and more coming to the surface lately, needing transmutation. I dunno what to do.

This is very similar to my problem with the "Worrying about being a robot slave" thing and makes me wonder about eeper issues.

Thing is, no matter how much I send the issue to my angels, the archangels, my higher self, etc. for healing and transmutation, I continue to be terrified and I REALLY have a desire not to manifest such a thing through my fears.

What's more is I, like in the "robot slave" thread, am for some reason worried my higher self would be willing to put me through such things.

There are reasons I suspect, but know too little about what goes on beyond the veil to be even remotely confident I know what I'm talking about, yet still have this fear.

for example, my exploration on the nature of the feminine and masculine aspects of the polarized energies and the possible creative implications for beyond the octave or whatever.

I would really like y'alls help getting to the bottom of my fears and resolving them here.

I know my lower 3 chakras are blocked. I'm working on that. Becoming grounded DOES help.

I recognize I've got DEEP SEATED authority issues.

I get that a sense of helplessness at the sight of what is perceived to be an unpredictable and uncontrollable force is something the Orion group tried to instill into primitives by using images from the deep unconscious mind to inspire awe (and fear) so it negativizes for sure to be in such a mindset.

I hear the higher self starts from the end and works it's way there. And while very ungrounded, I have come to the idea of a thought that the rash, negative path may have creative implications of trying to improve or change systems, metaphysically. I get this from reading GentleReckoning's posts.

That being said, I'm not unpleased with the "status quo" of how the fabric of this reality works, so why am I having this fear?

The masculine feminine thing in regards to polarity also may be affecting my outlook on the matter.

I have had some deep seated issues with women in the past stemming from female authority figures and while I know longer consider myself a chauvinist or have an issue with the idea that men and women are equal, there was a time when I considered men superior. This was in response to gynocentric authoritarianism, but I have grown out of it. Still, perhaps some unconscious attitudes remain?  

For example, I look around and say "Men built all this.... primarily for women" and a piece of me worries that by taking the positive path I may be opting out of the metaphysical equivalent of world building. And the chauvinism might be in the attitude that taking the feminized energy or RECEIVING on the matter could be somehow a thing I would take issue with?  I dunno.

But as I've said, I LIKE this reality, so why would I have a problem taking on a feminized energy about it? Unless it were some sort of unconscious chauvinism or...? I dunno.

And I recognize that under this veil there's a LOT I dunno about the metaphysics. So there's that.

Can you all please help me with this and help me with this?

And what (other than working to be more grounded, natch) would help me with these freakouts I keep having?

Thanks in advance. I love you all and am truly grateful for your loving support.

EDIT: I also note that in mid sixth density, one is "beyond polarity" so maybe I'm reading WAYY TOO MUCH into this masculine/feminine polarity thing.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative timespace - Nau7ik - 09-06-2018

It’s good to want to explore your fears, worries, distortions, etc. If you identify as a wanderer, I will say that it’s inevitable that we will pick up some distortions from the planetary population. We are in the same boat as everyone else. This is a very distorted planetary population.

Quote:For example, I look around and say "Men built all this.... primarily for women" and a piece of me worries that by taking the positive path I may be opting out of the metaphysical equivalent of world building. And the chauvinism might be in the attitude that taking the feminized energy or RECEIVING on the matter could be somehow a thing I would take issue with? I dunno.

Absolutely not! Positivity doesn’t mean complacency. There is definitely room for the masculine on the positive path.
My favorite Sephirah on the Tree of Life is Chesed, Mercy, Jupiter. This is a masculine aspect of Creation. He is the wise beneficent peacetime king sitting on his throne. He protects and guides his people. He is the building up aspect of manifestation. He is the world builder. Opposed him on the Tree is Geburah who is the breaking down aspect of manifestation. Both are spheres of masculine force, which is absolutely vital to Creation.

Men and women simply have different strengths. The man may build, but the woman has inspired him to build. Do you see the equal give and take here? Both need each other. There is no lesser than or greater than.

The masculine can be looked upon as “force” and the feminine as “form”. The force needs to be contained in a form and the form needs a force to contain. Otherwise we have no manifestation. That initial creative impulse from Kether IS, that’s it. In Chokmah it is virile and needs to be “received” otherwise the energy dissipates. Binah receives this creative pulse and gives it a form of expression. This is Chokmah and Binah on the Tree of Life, the All-Father and the Great Mother.

Anyway you are already doing the work of balancing and understanding your distortions and that’s the first step towards healing them. I’m free to talk about anything you want to talk about, my friend!


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 08:37 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: It’s good to want to explore your fears, worries, distortions, etc. If you identify as a wanderer, I will say that it’s inevitable that we will pick up some distortions from the planetary population. We are in the same boat as everyone else. This is a very distorted planetary population.


Quote:For example, I look around and say "Men built all this.... primarily for women" and a piece of me worries that by taking the positive path I may be opting out of the metaphysical equivalent of world building. And the chauvinism might be in the attitude that taking the feminized energy or RECEIVING on the matter could be somehow a thing I would take issue with? I dunno.

Absolutely not! Positivity doesn’t mean complacency. There is definitely room for the masculine on the positive path.
My favorite Sephirah on the Tree of Life is Chesed, Mercy, Jupiter. This is a masculine aspect of Creation. He is the wise beneficent peacetime king sitting on his throne. He protects and guides his people. He is the building up aspect of manifestation. He is the world builder. Opposed him on the Tree is Geburah who is the breaking down aspect of manifestation. Both are spheres of masculine force, which is absolutely vital to Creation.

Men and women simply have different strengths. The man may build, but the woman has inspired him to build. Do you see the equal give and take here? Both need each other. There is no lesser than or greater than.

The masculine can be looked upon as “force” and the feminine as “form”. The force needs to be contained in a form and the form needs a force to contain. Otherwise we have no manifestation. That initial creative impulse from Kether IS, that’s it. In Chokmah it is virile and needs to be “received” otherwise the energy dissipates. Binah receives this creative pulse and gives it a form of expression. This is Chokmah and Binah on the Tree of Life, the All-Father and the Great Mother.

Anyway you are already doing the work of balancing and understanding your distortions and that’s the first step towards healing them. I’m free to talk about anything you want to talk about, my friend!

Thank you for this, Nau7ik. I was praying to all etheric allies for aid in working through these issues on here and I think you really helped me out with this post, so thank you and thanks to all my etheric allies! Cause this also helps with issues I had BEFORE these particular fears started arising.

"Women inspire, men build" I like that.

I am unfamiliar with the kabbalah and it's terms, however, I think I may get the gist of what you're saying. Although I would appreciate some clarification there.

"Positivity doesn’t mean complacency." I also think it was important for me to hear that. THANK YOU again, Nau7ik.

Also, you're saying these fears may have something to do with me taking on the planetary distortions? Makes sense. Is there any way I can make that easier to deal with?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018

Quote:92.32 ▶ Questioner: We have taken those as indicating the fertility of the subconscious mind. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, O student, but note ye the function of the mantle. There is great protection given by the very character of potentiation. To bear fruit is a protected activity.


Quote:50.5 ▶ Questioner: Will you give that?

Ra: I am Ra. We paused to scan this instrument’s consciousness for permission to use its experiential catalyst as example. We may proceed.

This is one instance and extrapolation may be made to other entities which are aware of the process of evolution. This entity chose, before incarnation, the means whereby catalyst had great probability of being obtained. This entity desired the process of expressing love and light without expecting any return. This instrument programmed also to endeavor to accomplish spiritual work and to comfort itself with companionship in the doing of this work.

Agreements were made prior to incarnation; the first, with the so-called parents and siblings of this entity. This provided the experiential catalyst for the situation of offering radiance of being without expectation of return. The second program involved agreements with several entities. These agreements provided and will provide, in your time/space and space/time continuum, opportunities for the experiential catalyst of work and comradeship.

There are events which were part of a program for this entity only in that they were possibility/probability vortices having to do with your societal culture. These events include the nature of the living or standard of living, the type of relationships entered into in your legal framework, and the social climate during the incarnation. The incarnation was understood to be one which would take place at harvest.

These givens, shall we say, apply to millions of your peoples, those aware of evolution and desirous in the very extreme of attaining the heart of love and the radiance which gives understanding. No matter what the lessons programmed, they have to do with other-selves, not with events. They have to do with giving, not receiving, for the lessons of love are of this nature both for positive and negative. Those negatively harvestable will be found at this time endeavoring to share their love of self.

There are those whose lessons are more random due to their present inability to comprehend the nature and mechanism of the evolution of mind, body, and spirit. Of these we may say that the process is guarded by those who never cease their watchful expectation of being of service. There is no entity without help, either through self-awareness of the unity of creation or through guardians of the self which protect the less sophisticated mind/body/spirit from any permanent separation from unity while the lessons of your density continue.


Quote:95.24 ▶ Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following meaning: That if the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, as total purity is approached in choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is exquisitely perceptive. The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.


Quote:32.1 ▶ Questioner: I have a little question I will throw in at this point from Jim. I will read it. The instrument’s physical complex is now in the process of recovery from taking a chemical. She was ignorant of the opening that she was creating. How can each of the three of us present be more aware of how such openings may be created in our actions and thoughts? Is it possible that we could make such openings innocently as we question in certain areas during these sessions? And then, what can we do to protect ourselves from distorting influences in general? Is there any ritual or meditation that we use?

Ra: I am Ra. Although we are in sympathy with the great desire to be of service exemplified by this question, our answer is limited by the distortion of the Way of Confusion. We shall say some general things which may be of service in this area.

Firstly, when this instrument distorted its bodily complex towards low vital energy due to this occurrence, it was a recognizable substance which caused this. This was not a, shall we say, natural substance nor was the mind/body/spirit complex enough aware of its distortion towards physical weakness. The natural ways of, shall we say, everyday existence in which the entity without the distortions caused by ingestion of strongly effective chemicals may be seen to be of an always appropriate nature. There are no mistakes, including the action of this instrument.

Secondly, the means of protection against any negative or debilitating influence for those upon the positive path was demonstrated by this instrument to a very great degree. Consider, if you will, the potentials that this particular occurrence had for negative influences to enter the instrument. This instrument thought upon the Creator in its solitude and in actions with other-self, continually praised and gave thanksgiving to the Creator for the experiences it was having. This in turn allowed this particular entity to radiate to the other-self such energies as became a catalyst for an opening and strengthening of the other-self’s ability to function in a more positively polarized state. Thus we see protection being very simple. Give thanksgiving for each moment. See the self and the other-self as Creator. Open the heart. Always know the light and praise it. This is all the protection necessary.



My personal suggestion is to seek to learn and practice compassion, in whatever little situations you may encounter.

Hope this helps.  Smile

Be strong.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Nau7ik - 09-06-2018

I am happy to help! I will try to be more clear when I speak of the Qabalah because I know that not everyone knows the terms, which is totally understandable. What do you need me to clarify?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

Thank you Blossom. Thank you ALL! I am still in a process of calming the f*** down, yet I am thankful for all this support and guidance.

I just told myself that "Look, I'm just learning that I have nothing to fear. It doesn't mean that that stuff's what's happening to me"


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 09:36 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Thank you Blossom. Thank you ALL! I am still in a process of calming the f*** down, yet I am thankful for all this support and guidance.

I just told myself that "Look, I'm just learning that I have nothing to fear. It doesn't mean that that stuff's what's happening to me"

You'll pull through it EvolvingPheonix, trust in yourself and the Creator within that whatever you are going through has been trusted in that you can do it. I believe you can.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 09:51 AM)blossom Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 09:36 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Thank you Blossom. Thank you ALL! I am still in a process of calming the f*** down, yet I am thankful for all this support and guidance.

I just told myself that "Look, I'm just learning that I have nothing to fear. It doesn't mean that that stuff's what's happening to me"

You'll pull through it EvolvingPheonix, trust in yourself and the Creator within that whatever you are going through has been trusted in that you can do it. I believe you can.

Thank you!

I would also like to point out this exchange on my other recent thread:

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RE: Tips on letting go of struggle?
(1 hour ago)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
As I deal with my various issues, I come to the question of what to do about my "struggles"?

I realize that letting go of struggle is a part of the positive path.

But since struggle is where people tend to get there sense of meaning from, it's been rather difficult to let go of.

So how does one address this issue?

EDIT: Sorry I didn't think to put a question mark at the end of the title. Kind accidentally bait-and-switched y'all with that. You probably expected I HAD some tips. Sorry for the confusion.

(4 minutes ago) Stranger Wrote:
Practice letting go of other goals in any situation, and making finding love inside yourself for all concerned your primary goal.

Struggle is about wanting external reality to be in some way other than it is. Spiritual growth is about meeting external reality as it is, with love.

If you shift your focus away from struggling against circumstances (which are mostly not under your control) to, instead, finding love as your primary goal, the struggle lessens automatically because 1) love feels amazing, 2) the capacity to find love is 100% under your control.

Does that make sense?

Thank you SO MUCH for this, Stranger! I think you may have helped me with my previous post too! Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?"

So what do you guys think?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

Also, do you guys believe that my use of emotional "Emotional PAin Relief and Healing Aid v2 subliminal" mentioned in a prior post may have something to do with all this catalyst?

I DO remember Gentle Reckoning pointing out that it was giving me more catalyst to deal with when I talked to him about it.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 09:56 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?"

So what do you guys think?

I think you are right about this. Without struggles we would stagnate ourselves in comfortable spot and not seek to learn and understand more.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 10:02 AM)blossom Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 09:56 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?"

So what do you guys think?

I think you are right about this. Without struggles we would stagnate ourselves in comfortable spot and not seek to learn and understand more.

Yeah, and besides, the higher self works to help us become it quicker, right? So then I see no reason why my higher self would put me in such a position.

Perhaps this is my way of working through these issues in 3D and I am being guided to do so now because I had a fear of the unknown which needs to be cleared.

Maybe that's it. My higher self is just helping me clear my fear of the unknown and learn to appreciate struggle?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 10:14 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 10:02 AM)blossom Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 09:56 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?"

So what do you guys think?

I think you are right about this. Without struggles we would stagnate ourselves in comfortable spot and not seek to learn and understand more.

Yeah, and besides, the higher self works to help us become it quicker, right? So then I see no reason why my higher self would put me in such a position.

Perhaps this is my way of working through these issues in 3D and I am being guided to do so now because I had a fear of the unknown which needs to be cleared.

Maybe that's it. My higher self is just helping me clear my fear of the unknown and learn to appreciate struggle?

I don't think that the higher self works to help us 'become it quicker'. The idea, in my view, is the free will of the Creator to experience what is desires, in whatever required time and space for each entity to it's own. The higher self can rather be seen a guide, guardian or an overseer of the process of evolution that one is going through. We cannot learn for you the lessons that you are being given for we are not you at this present space and time, but to offer you our thoughts and opinions through love and understanding. I think the greatest gift that we have, is the free will to ponder on our actions and thoughts, to give ourselves compassion and forgiveness, to better understand the creator that is within all.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

I think I may be also learning to better appreciate and love those of the negative path. And a part of that may be the realization that those on the negative path are simply people carrying a "helpless" energy they are learning to "love themselves" enough to let go of.

I have been treating my own higher self like some sort of "god" basically, like the kind the negative STS entities have tried to prime human beings to believe in on our planet! And maybe if I'm a wanderer taking on distortions (i guess for transmutation) then to transmute this helpless energy that fears the unknown instead of loving the moment and having faith, knowing that one is the one and infinite creator, would maybe be good for the mass consciousness, and even non-wanderers are of service when they transmute their own issues such as this.

My facing this catalyst causes me to face this (seemingly very deeply rooted) distortion with love and heal/transmute it. This may be healing/transmuting it for the mass consciousness.

This issue seems rather serious and I am grateful to have been blessed with this uprising of catalyst.

As a side note: After smoking more marijuana, I have on one hand found more answers and on the other Letting go of the "victim mentality" is a part of the process which is occuring. Come to think of it, "Letting go of the victim mentality" is a part of my emotional pain relief and healing aid subliminal. This may be because of powerful effects from the subliminal.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - john11:11 - 09-06-2018

Crazy "coincidence" Evolving, I was just going through the Ra Material for a 2nd time these last few weeks, and today, I kid you not, I had the same worry about "repeating third density" and "going to negative time/space after death."

I have a question as well. If the TRUTH is OBJECTIVE (which I firmly believe) is saying something to someone that is TRUTHFUL, yet too TRUTHFUL that it is perceived as hurtful by the recipient of the TRUTH, would that cause me to polarize negatively? Like if I say something to someone that everyone says is True except the person to whom I'm saying it, does that make me negatively polarized? I think the TRUTH is never hurtful if it's the TRUTH.

Also, Evolving, what state do you live in? I saw that you typed "Y'all" I live in Louisiana.

Also,


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-06-2018

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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 02:14 PM)john11:11 Wrote: Crazy "coincidence" Evolving, I was just going through the Ra Material for a 2nd time these last few weeks, and today, I kid you not, I had the same worry about "repeating third density" and "going to negative time/space after death."    

I have a question as well.  If the TRUTH is OBJECTIVE (which I firmly believe) is saying something to someone that is TRUTHFUL, yet too TRUTHFUL that it is perceived as hurtful by the recipient of the TRUTH, would that cause me to polarize negatively?  Like if I say something to someone that everyone says is True except the person to whom I'm saying it, does that make me negatively polarized?  I think the TRUTH is never hurtful if it's the TRUTH.  

Also, Evolving, what state do you live in?  I saw that you typed "Y'all"  I live in Louisiana.  

Also,

TBH John, I dunno the answer to your question, but I'm glad my process of healing and transmuting this issue is helping others as well!

I live in Tampa Florida. I'm actually not very southern in my way of behaving and talking.

I do say "y'all" though. But mostly, I speak in a "neutral" sounding accent with mostly "neutral" speaking style. You know, talk like a typical caucasian, American male. For the most part. Every now and then, I might speak in a way that deviates from the "normal" way people speak, but otherwise, typical (except word choices can range from verbose to very simple and vulgar,a nd even a mixture and what's in between.

You may wanna check out my other 2 recent posts as well for more insight on what I've been learning regarding this issue. There's a lot of use in looking at the other two. Also the "Robot Slave" worry : P

Oh, and... you were ab0out to say something but accidentally cut off.

"Also,

..."

Just letting you know in case you still wanted to add something.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 02:27 PM)Agua Wrote: I guess the struggle is mainly a combination of "learned behaviour" and unresolved trauma.
I also am pretty sure that the fear of being transported into negative time/space is actually old fear again stemmimg from unresolved trauma.
Our consciousness cannot accept this old fear (fully; only a "microportion" of it), so you only feel a tiny bit of it. Because of that, you cannot really umderstand what that fear is about truly and so your consciousness is looking for something that it can attach that fear to.
In your case, the transportation to negative time-space seemed to be perfect obviously Wink

Thank you Agua!

I love you and thank you for this and I love and thank everybody else on this forum as well. Thank you all so much for your loving guidance and thank YOU Agua, for shedding this piece of light!

If you could all please be patient and remain willing and ready to help me through this, I would be so happy about it.

Agua, do you have any ideas how I can address this fear/"learned behaviour"/unresolved trauma?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

Hey everybody, one of the blocks I'm facing is that I'm worried that my worry is manifesting it. Is there a way to let go of THAT worry and ensure I keep my manifestations positive?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-06-2018

The subliminals you are using are causing massive amounts of light that you're balancing. I recommend you stop using them.

You can't just subconscious yourself to a godlike being without all of society resisting the transition (which is just your higher self balancing your power with wisdom).

In Ra parlance, you've intensified the light of the sun immensely causing you to use up all the love of those around you as you change faster than their sleeping state can balance. In a healthier society you would have little to no catalyst for using permission slips like these.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - AnthroHeart - 09-06-2018

I've heard that a positive thought or affirmation is thousands of times more powerful than a negative.
So that should eliminate a degree of worry right there.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-06-2018

Also the whole feminine masculine thing is due to the um... incorrect way our society interprets the sexes. You will likely balance that particular issue until you are totally cool with it.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 05:11 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Also the whole feminine masculine thing is due to the um... incorrect way our society interprets the sexes. You will likely balance that particular issue until you are totally cool with it.

Would you be willing to help me balance out that issue by going into more detail about it?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

So I just read this part of this thread:

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2503&pid=38996#pid38996

The part regarding Adolf Hitler and integration of polarity and how just learning it intellectually doesn't help. One must INTEGRATE.

So, regarding what I'm learning here, I must INTEGRATE the lessons I've been learning into my life, and integrate the stuff you all have been saying in my posts.

Any ways to help me integrate my heavy positive polarization? Because I do feel as though it seems I'm doing the POSITIVE version of what Hitler did in that regard.

So any suggestions?


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - JJCarsonian - 09-06-2018

1 of hundreds of billions of people who has ever lived on earth has been tricked into going into negative time space, and you are worried you might be the 2nd? Based on all your posts in totality , I would think you're trolling everyone. Maybe you use to be a serious poster and come back with a new identity to mess with people? It's really hard to believe that you believe a lot of the stuff that you say


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 06:50 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: 1 of hundreds of billions of people who has ever lived on earth has been tricked into going into negative time space, and you are worried you might be the 2nd?  Based on all your posts in totality , I would think you're trolling everyone. Maybe you use to be a serious poster and come back with a new identity to mess with people?   It's really hard to believe that you believe a lot of the stuff that you say

I am not a troll. I am IN ALL SERIOUSNESS stressing out about this stuff right now and looking for help. Please understand that I'm aware of how irrational all this stuff is. But it's like... the more I learn about the Law of One, the more crazy ass questions it raises. I dunno why, but my mind pulls up crazy stuff and obsesses over it.

Thanks for trying to bring me back own to earth JJ. PLEASE don't be upset with me and please don't think me a troll! I'm a worried person with issues and I'm relying on the support and guidance of the people here because I don't know where else to go with this stuff. I know what's up with my posts and was worried somebody might get annoyed by all these frantic worrying posts. I know how it looks. I assure you it's real.

HAve you ever heard of people in mental hospitals? My mom used to work in one. There was a poor woman who TRULY BELIEVED aliens were forcing her to open her legs with no pants or underwear and expose her vagina.

My point being that some of us out here have some pretty serious distorted mental s*** we're dealing with. I'm not "Go to a psych ward" levels, but lately, I'm dealing with stuff like this.

Knowing how irrational and distorted my worries are doesn't necessarily resolve them, so I take them here, hoping people won't get annoyed and will help instead.

Please don't be upset with me. I am serious with this and it REALLY does affect me. I know it seems really outlandish to you, but then again, the Law of One seems outlandish probably to most.

Just... please be patient with me here. I'm not trolling. And I really am full of worry that I'm learning to release. And you all ARE massively helping. I love you. I don't want to troll you. I take this thread seriously, this forum seriously, the Law of One seriously and my catalyst seriously. Please don't judge me for it. I love you.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-07-2018

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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-07-2018

(09-06-2018, 07:34 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 06:50 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: 1 of hundreds of billions of people who has ever lived on earth has been tricked into going into negative time space, and you are worried you might be the 2nd?  Based on all your posts in totality , I would think you're trolling everyone. Maybe you use to be a serious poster and come back with a new identity to mess with people?   It's really hard to believe that you believe a lot of the stuff that you say

I am not a troll. I am IN ALL SERIOUSNESS stressing out about this stuff right now and looking for help. Please understand that I'm aware of how irrational all this stuff is. But it's like... the more I learn about the Law of One, the more crazy ass questions it raises. I dunno why, but my mind pulls up crazy stuff and obsesses over it.

Thanks for trying to bring me back own to earth JJ. PLEASE don't be upset with me and please don't think me a troll! I'm a worried person with issues and I'm relying on the support and guidance of the people here because I don't know where else to go with this stuff. I know what's up with my posts and was worried somebody might get annoyed by all these frantic worrying posts. I know how it looks. I assure you it's real.

HAve you ever heard of people in mental hospitals? My mom used to work in one. There was a poor woman who TRULY BELIEVED aliens were forcing her to open her legs with no pants or underwear and expose her vagina.

My point being that some of us out here have some pretty serious distorted mental s*** we're dealing with. I'm not "Go to a psych ward" levels, but lately, I'm dealing with stuff like this.

Knowing how irrational and distorted my worries are doesn't necessarily resolve them, so I take them here, hoping people won't get annoyed and will help instead.

Please don't be upset with me. I am serious with this and it REALLY does affect me. I know it seems really outlandish to you, but then again, the Law of One seems outlandish probably to most.

Just... please be patient with me here. I'm not trolling. And I really am full of worry that I'm learning to release. And you all ARE massively helping. I love you. I don't want to troll you. I take this thread seriously, this forum seriously, the Law of One seriously and my catalyst seriously. Please don't judge me for it. I love you.

You see, none of us truly knows what's beyond, what's true or not. It's all mostly faith, hope, and personal truths. Surely we can land you a shoulder to lean on, and an ear to listen. But we can't learn for you, we can't teach you what your life pattern's about. If we could, and we can't, then you would rely on us and make little to no personal spiritual progress. It's good to raise up discussions from time to time, but to base all your life catalyst on others to decipher just seems not plausible. We do not know you personally, your experiences, your thoughts and feelings and what makes you you. If you truly wish to take up responsibility and learn, then do learn, there is so much information on the L/L Research website. Bringing up discussions relating to that sort of teaching seems a lot more appropriate in my opinion.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-07-2018

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RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-07-2018

(09-07-2018, 02:13 AM)Agua Wrote: Try to relax a little bit, Phoenix!
I really dont believe you are a troll.

You are caught up in a lot of fear and trying to make sense of what you feel but do not understand!
And surely this is not among the craziest things posted here Wink
We all have those times...

As I wrote above, we often access "micro-portions" of old emotions. Its not enough to realize and understand where its coming from and what its all about, but enough to feel it significantly.
The mind then tries to interpret this into an acceptable form.
That happens ALL the time, we ALL do this all the time, we just dont realize it.

Why the sudden change of tone? Are you as flaccid as a politician? Did your point have no merit? I'm confused.


RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-07-2018

(09-07-2018, 03:17 AM)Agua Wrote: To expand on that a little, i'll give a hypothetical example:

Well, the example is not too hypothetical, but i dont know what exactly it is in your case, its actually very common Wink
Imagine you are an unborn baby. Birth is approaching.
Space is extremely limited since you are already quite big. The "walls" are closing in on you.
You dont have the slightest bit of understanding of whats happening.
But its a serious threat!
Your body usually turns upside down. The "walls" get tigther and tighter. Contractions start and you are being pushed against the "exit", but the exit is still tightly closed in that phase.
Life as you have known it up to know is about to end!
This is actually pretty much the same as when you die at the end of your physical life.
Fear of death, stress and struggle are beyond ANYTHING you could imagine what is humanly possible.
You could multiply the greatest pain and the biggest fear you know by 10 000 and you still wouldnt be close.
And dont forget, you are not an adult, you are a baby that can not yet live on its own.
In that phase it often is as if the "gates to hell" open.
You can envision demons fighting you, you can experience scenes of torture and so on.
This very often activates trauma from other lifetimes, bringing it back into "memory".

Additionaly, the can be other factors. For example if the mothers connection to you is umstable, meaning she cits the heart connection to you makes you be all alone in hell.
Eberything the mother feels at these stages becomes imprimted into your system with incredible energy, for example, "i dont want the baby".
ALso, this is a perfect point of time for psychic attacks, negative entities can use this trauma to make it even worse.

After borth, you suppress all of this.
Many people for example chose the "intellectual path", that means, they build a strong ego around thinking and the intellect, which is a perfect tool to completely shut out these experiences.
Thinking and the intellect then becomes a means of survival.

Many people close the,selves to such a degree that they completely block most of their emotions, in order to avoid remembering trauma.

Now, usually there are certain "windows" in your later life, when it becomes possible to slowly access old trauma and step by step heal.
This can be an outer trigger like a relationship breakup, loss of a job, giving birth to a child, having children and very often when one has "settled down" and reached a place of stability.
Another factor can be drug use. For example, marijuana mostly is underrated.
It can be quite ego dissolving, which results in either barriers becoming less firm or in the ego running wild and catching you up in thought cycles.
That depends on if you surrender or if you resist.

When something like this happens, a tiny little flashback of (for example) the fear arises in you.
Its just a little bit, nothing remotely close to the "original fear", but in normal human terms still a major fear.
Your comsciousness usually cannot allow the fear fully arise, you would probably kill yourself immediately when this would happen. So it tries to control the fear.
Much of the control we apply to keep those things at bay is what we call "understanding".

You might notice that many of us (including myself, hehe) have a compulsion to understand things.
Actually this is not really understanding. The intellect cannot understand those things. Never.
It is in fact simply and only an attempt to control the experience.
We do not really understand it, how could we, if we dont allow the experience.
But by thinking and by intellectual activity we can cut off from it and so reduce the energy of the experience.
It might still be a strong fear, but it is nothing compared to the real thing.

In an attempt to control the experience by "understanding" it, we interpret the emotion of fear, we label it mentally and put it in a category.
In your case you imterpret it as "fear of being transported to negative time space".
we turn the emotion that we cannot allow fully into something that makes sense to us and control it by understanding it.

If you smoke marijuana, which i would not recommend at the moment for various reason, try to set the intention that you allow to understand nothing at all and have fun witnessing what happens Wink
You will be overwhelmed with fear and probably would not be able to allow it for even ten minutes!

Actually, this is what psychosis is about (not saying you're psychotic). We experience something that is real, a tiny flashback of an old trauma. We dont recognize this as old emotions and believe it is happening right now. Then we zry to "umderstand" it and interpret it according to curremt circumstances.
This is what happens on a smaller scale throughtout the whole day for most people.

So, relax, dont be ashamed. This is perfectly normal. Some will umdstand this, others wont.
Become aware of it, practice presence and heal and grow.
Dont use it as a means to put you down.
Use it as an opportunity to grow!

This is exactly how our lives are designed, it is not a malfunction, but the way it was intended.
Just try to not stay stuck in it Wink

Let me summarize:

Limited, closing in, serious threat, upside down, tighter and tighter, you are being pushed, fear of death, stress and struggle, life... about to end, die, end of ... life, fear of death, stress and struggle, the greatest pain, greatest pain and the biggest fear by 10,000, gates to hell, demons fighting you, scenes of torture, trauma from other lifetimes, all alone in hell, a paragraph of sudden typos forcing a deeper hypnotic state, I don't want the baby, perfect point for psychic attack,

haha, you said borth.

I'm not going to validate the rest. If 90-100% fear-mongering isn't enough to convince you, perhaps you could learn to more artfully apply the art of fart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUaEtf1s23w