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Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 So when I first read that people could be "tricked" into negative timespace, I've had worries about it that are more and more coming to the surface lately, needing transmutation. I dunno what to do. This is very similar to my problem with the "Worrying about being a robot slave" thing and makes me wonder about eeper issues. Thing is, no matter how much I send the issue to my angels, the archangels, my higher self, etc. for healing and transmutation, I continue to be terrified and I REALLY have a desire not to manifest such a thing through my fears. What's more is I, like in the "robot slave" thread, am for some reason worried my higher self would be willing to put me through such things. There are reasons I suspect, but know too little about what goes on beyond the veil to be even remotely confident I know what I'm talking about, yet still have this fear. for example, my exploration on the nature of the feminine and masculine aspects of the polarized energies and the possible creative implications for beyond the octave or whatever. I would really like y'alls help getting to the bottom of my fears and resolving them here. I know my lower 3 chakras are blocked. I'm working on that. Becoming grounded DOES help. I recognize I've got DEEP SEATED authority issues. I get that a sense of helplessness at the sight of what is perceived to be an unpredictable and uncontrollable force is something the Orion group tried to instill into primitives by using images from the deep unconscious mind to inspire awe (and fear) so it negativizes for sure to be in such a mindset. I hear the higher self starts from the end and works it's way there. And while very ungrounded, I have come to the idea of a thought that the rash, negative path may have creative implications of trying to improve or change systems, metaphysically. I get this from reading GentleReckoning's posts. That being said, I'm not unpleased with the "status quo" of how the fabric of this reality works, so why am I having this fear? The masculine feminine thing in regards to polarity also may be affecting my outlook on the matter. I have had some deep seated issues with women in the past stemming from female authority figures and while I know longer consider myself a chauvinist or have an issue with the idea that men and women are equal, there was a time when I considered men superior. This was in response to gynocentric authoritarianism, but I have grown out of it. Still, perhaps some unconscious attitudes remain? For example, I look around and say "Men built all this.... primarily for women" and a piece of me worries that by taking the positive path I may be opting out of the metaphysical equivalent of world building. And the chauvinism might be in the attitude that taking the feminized energy or RECEIVING on the matter could be somehow a thing I would take issue with? I dunno. But as I've said, I LIKE this reality, so why would I have a problem taking on a feminized energy about it? Unless it were some sort of unconscious chauvinism or...? I dunno. And I recognize that under this veil there's a LOT I dunno about the metaphysics. So there's that. Can you all please help me with this and help me with this? And what (other than working to be more grounded, natch) would help me with these freakouts I keep having? Thanks in advance. I love you all and am truly grateful for your loving support. EDIT: I also note that in mid sixth density, one is "beyond polarity" so maybe I'm reading WAYY TOO MUCH into this masculine/feminine polarity thing. RE: Worried about being transported to negative timespace - Nau7ik - 09-06-2018 It’s good to want to explore your fears, worries, distortions, etc. If you identify as a wanderer, I will say that it’s inevitable that we will pick up some distortions from the planetary population. We are in the same boat as everyone else. This is a very distorted planetary population. Quote:For example, I look around and say "Men built all this.... primarily for women" and a piece of me worries that by taking the positive path I may be opting out of the metaphysical equivalent of world building. And the chauvinism might be in the attitude that taking the feminized energy or RECEIVING on the matter could be somehow a thing I would take issue with? I dunno. Absolutely not! Positivity doesn’t mean complacency. There is definitely room for the masculine on the positive path. My favorite Sephirah on the Tree of Life is Chesed, Mercy, Jupiter. This is a masculine aspect of Creation. He is the wise beneficent peacetime king sitting on his throne. He protects and guides his people. He is the building up aspect of manifestation. He is the world builder. Opposed him on the Tree is Geburah who is the breaking down aspect of manifestation. Both are spheres of masculine force, which is absolutely vital to Creation. Men and women simply have different strengths. The man may build, but the woman has inspired him to build. Do you see the equal give and take here? Both need each other. There is no lesser than or greater than. The masculine can be looked upon as “force” and the feminine as “form”. The force needs to be contained in a form and the form needs a force to contain. Otherwise we have no manifestation. That initial creative impulse from Kether IS, that’s it. In Chokmah it is virile and needs to be “received” otherwise the energy dissipates. Binah receives this creative pulse and gives it a form of expression. This is Chokmah and Binah on the Tree of Life, the All-Father and the Great Mother. Anyway you are already doing the work of balancing and understanding your distortions and that’s the first step towards healing them. I’m free to talk about anything you want to talk about, my friend! RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 08:37 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: It’s good to want to explore your fears, worries, distortions, etc. If you identify as a wanderer, I will say that it’s inevitable that we will pick up some distortions from the planetary population. We are in the same boat as everyone else. This is a very distorted planetary population. Thank you for this, Nau7ik. I was praying to all etheric allies for aid in working through these issues on here and I think you really helped me out with this post, so thank you and thanks to all my etheric allies! Cause this also helps with issues I had BEFORE these particular fears started arising. "Women inspire, men build" I like that. I am unfamiliar with the kabbalah and it's terms, however, I think I may get the gist of what you're saying. Although I would appreciate some clarification there. "Positivity doesn’t mean complacency." I also think it was important for me to hear that. THANK YOU again, Nau7ik. Also, you're saying these fears may have something to do with me taking on the planetary distortions? Makes sense. Is there any way I can make that easier to deal with? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018 Quote:92.32 ▶ Questioner: We have taken those as indicating the fertility of the subconscious mind. Is this correct? Quote:50.5 ▶ Questioner: Will you give that? Quote:95.24 ▶ Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following meaning: That if the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, as total purity is approached in choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct? Quote:32.1 ▶ Questioner: I have a little question I will throw in at this point from Jim. I will read it. The instrument’s physical complex is now in the process of recovery from taking a chemical. She was ignorant of the opening that she was creating. How can each of the three of us present be more aware of how such openings may be created in our actions and thoughts? Is it possible that we could make such openings innocently as we question in certain areas during these sessions? And then, what can we do to protect ourselves from distorting influences in general? Is there any ritual or meditation that we use? My personal suggestion is to seek to learn and practice compassion, in whatever little situations you may encounter. Hope this helps. ![]() Be strong. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Nau7ik - 09-06-2018 I am happy to help! I will try to be more clear when I speak of the Qabalah because I know that not everyone knows the terms, which is totally understandable. What do you need me to clarify? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 Thank you Blossom. Thank you ALL! I am still in a process of calming the f*** down, yet I am thankful for all this support and guidance. I just told myself that "Look, I'm just learning that I have nothing to fear. It doesn't mean that that stuff's what's happening to me" RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 09:36 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Thank you Blossom. Thank you ALL! I am still in a process of calming the f*** down, yet I am thankful for all this support and guidance. You'll pull through it EvolvingPheonix, trust in yourself and the Creator within that whatever you are going through has been trusted in that you can do it. I believe you can. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 09:51 AM)blossom Wrote:(09-06-2018, 09:36 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Thank you Blossom. Thank you ALL! I am still in a process of calming the f*** down, yet I am thankful for all this support and guidance. Thank you! I would also like to point out this exchange on my other recent thread: -------------------------------------------------------------- RE: Tips on letting go of struggle? (1 hour ago)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: As I deal with my various issues, I come to the question of what to do about my "struggles"? I realize that letting go of struggle is a part of the positive path. But since struggle is where people tend to get there sense of meaning from, it's been rather difficult to let go of. So how does one address this issue? EDIT: Sorry I didn't think to put a question mark at the end of the title. Kind accidentally bait-and-switched y'all with that. You probably expected I HAD some tips. Sorry for the confusion. (4 minutes ago) Stranger Wrote: Practice letting go of other goals in any situation, and making finding love inside yourself for all concerned your primary goal. Struggle is about wanting external reality to be in some way other than it is. Spiritual growth is about meeting external reality as it is, with love. If you shift your focus away from struggling against circumstances (which are mostly not under your control) to, instead, finding love as your primary goal, the struggle lessens automatically because 1) love feels amazing, 2) the capacity to find love is 100% under your control. Does that make sense? Thank you SO MUCH for this, Stranger! I think you may have helped me with my previous post too! Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?" So what do you guys think? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 Also, do you guys believe that my use of emotional "Emotional PAin Relief and Healing Aid v2 subliminal" mentioned in a prior post may have something to do with all this catalyst? I DO remember Gentle Reckoning pointing out that it was giving me more catalyst to deal with when I talked to him about it. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 09:56 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?" I think you are right about this. Without struggles we would stagnate ourselves in comfortable spot and not seek to learn and understand more. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 10:02 AM)blossom Wrote:(09-06-2018, 09:56 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?" Yeah, and besides, the higher self works to help us become it quicker, right? So then I see no reason why my higher self would put me in such a position. Perhaps this is my way of working through these issues in 3D and I am being guided to do so now because I had a fear of the unknown which needs to be cleared. Maybe that's it. My higher self is just helping me clear my fear of the unknown and learn to appreciate struggle? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 10:14 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-06-2018, 10:02 AM)blossom Wrote:(09-06-2018, 09:56 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Perhaps my recent fears and insecurities are to propel me towards seeking guidance in learning this lesson?" I don't think that the higher self works to help us 'become it quicker'. The idea, in my view, is the free will of the Creator to experience what is desires, in whatever required time and space for each entity to it's own. The higher self can rather be seen a guide, guardian or an overseer of the process of evolution that one is going through. We cannot learn for you the lessons that you are being given for we are not you at this present space and time, but to offer you our thoughts and opinions through love and understanding. I think the greatest gift that we have, is the free will to ponder on our actions and thoughts, to give ourselves compassion and forgiveness, to better understand the creator that is within all. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 I think I may be also learning to better appreciate and love those of the negative path. And a part of that may be the realization that those on the negative path are simply people carrying a "helpless" energy they are learning to "love themselves" enough to let go of. I have been treating my own higher self like some sort of "god" basically, like the kind the negative STS entities have tried to prime human beings to believe in on our planet! And maybe if I'm a wanderer taking on distortions (i guess for transmutation) then to transmute this helpless energy that fears the unknown instead of loving the moment and having faith, knowing that one is the one and infinite creator, would maybe be good for the mass consciousness, and even non-wanderers are of service when they transmute their own issues such as this. My facing this catalyst causes me to face this (seemingly very deeply rooted) distortion with love and heal/transmute it. This may be healing/transmuting it for the mass consciousness. This issue seems rather serious and I am grateful to have been blessed with this uprising of catalyst. As a side note: After smoking more marijuana, I have on one hand found more answers and on the other Letting go of the "victim mentality" is a part of the process which is occuring. Come to think of it, "Letting go of the victim mentality" is a part of my emotional pain relief and healing aid subliminal. This may be because of powerful effects from the subliminal. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - john11:11 - 09-06-2018 Crazy "coincidence" Evolving, I was just going through the Ra Material for a 2nd time these last few weeks, and today, I kid you not, I had the same worry about "repeating third density" and "going to negative time/space after death." I have a question as well. If the TRUTH is OBJECTIVE (which I firmly believe) is saying something to someone that is TRUTHFUL, yet too TRUTHFUL that it is perceived as hurtful by the recipient of the TRUTH, would that cause me to polarize negatively? Like if I say something to someone that everyone says is True except the person to whom I'm saying it, does that make me negatively polarized? I think the TRUTH is never hurtful if it's the TRUTH. Also, Evolving, what state do you live in? I saw that you typed "Y'all" I live in Louisiana. Also, RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-06-2018 removed RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 02:14 PM)john11:11 Wrote: Crazy "coincidence" Evolving, I was just going through the Ra Material for a 2nd time these last few weeks, and today, I kid you not, I had the same worry about "repeating third density" and "going to negative time/space after death." TBH John, I dunno the answer to your question, but I'm glad my process of healing and transmuting this issue is helping others as well! I live in Tampa Florida. I'm actually not very southern in my way of behaving and talking. I do say "y'all" though. But mostly, I speak in a "neutral" sounding accent with mostly "neutral" speaking style. You know, talk like a typical caucasian, American male. For the most part. Every now and then, I might speak in a way that deviates from the "normal" way people speak, but otherwise, typical (except word choices can range from verbose to very simple and vulgar,a nd even a mixture and what's in between. You may wanna check out my other 2 recent posts as well for more insight on what I've been learning regarding this issue. There's a lot of use in looking at the other two. Also the "Robot Slave" worry : P Oh, and... you were ab0out to say something but accidentally cut off. "Also, ..." Just letting you know in case you still wanted to add something. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 02:27 PM)Agua Wrote: I guess the struggle is mainly a combination of "learned behaviour" and unresolved trauma. Thank you Agua! I love you and thank you for this and I love and thank everybody else on this forum as well. Thank you all so much for your loving guidance and thank YOU Agua, for shedding this piece of light! If you could all please be patient and remain willing and ready to help me through this, I would be so happy about it. Agua, do you have any ideas how I can address this fear/"learned behaviour"/unresolved trauma? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 Hey everybody, one of the blocks I'm facing is that I'm worried that my worry is manifesting it. Is there a way to let go of THAT worry and ensure I keep my manifestations positive? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-06-2018 The subliminals you are using are causing massive amounts of light that you're balancing. I recommend you stop using them. You can't just subconscious yourself to a godlike being without all of society resisting the transition (which is just your higher self balancing your power with wisdom). In Ra parlance, you've intensified the light of the sun immensely causing you to use up all the love of those around you as you change faster than their sleeping state can balance. In a healthier society you would have little to no catalyst for using permission slips like these. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - AnthroHeart - 09-06-2018 I've heard that a positive thought or affirmation is thousands of times more powerful than a negative. So that should eliminate a degree of worry right there. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-06-2018 Also the whole feminine masculine thing is due to the um... incorrect way our society interprets the sexes. You will likely balance that particular issue until you are totally cool with it. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 05:11 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Also the whole feminine masculine thing is due to the um... incorrect way our society interprets the sexes. You will likely balance that particular issue until you are totally cool with it. Would you be willing to help me balance out that issue by going into more detail about it? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 So I just read this part of this thread: https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2503&pid=38996#pid38996 The part regarding Adolf Hitler and integration of polarity and how just learning it intellectually doesn't help. One must INTEGRATE. So, regarding what I'm learning here, I must INTEGRATE the lessons I've been learning into my life, and integrate the stuff you all have been saying in my posts. Any ways to help me integrate my heavy positive polarization? Because I do feel as though it seems I'm doing the POSITIVE version of what Hitler did in that regard. So any suggestions? RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - JJCarsonian - 09-06-2018 1 of hundreds of billions of people who has ever lived on earth has been tricked into going into negative time space, and you are worried you might be the 2nd? Based on all your posts in totality , I would think you're trolling everyone. Maybe you use to be a serious poster and come back with a new identity to mess with people? It's really hard to believe that you believe a lot of the stuff that you say RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018 (09-06-2018, 06:50 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: 1 of hundreds of billions of people who has ever lived on earth has been tricked into going into negative time space, and you are worried you might be the 2nd? Based on all your posts in totality , I would think you're trolling everyone. Maybe you use to be a serious poster and come back with a new identity to mess with people? It's really hard to believe that you believe a lot of the stuff that you say I am not a troll. I am IN ALL SERIOUSNESS stressing out about this stuff right now and looking for help. Please understand that I'm aware of how irrational all this stuff is. But it's like... the more I learn about the Law of One, the more crazy ass questions it raises. I dunno why, but my mind pulls up crazy stuff and obsesses over it. Thanks for trying to bring me back own to earth JJ. PLEASE don't be upset with me and please don't think me a troll! I'm a worried person with issues and I'm relying on the support and guidance of the people here because I don't know where else to go with this stuff. I know what's up with my posts and was worried somebody might get annoyed by all these frantic worrying posts. I know how it looks. I assure you it's real. HAve you ever heard of people in mental hospitals? My mom used to work in one. There was a poor woman who TRULY BELIEVED aliens were forcing her to open her legs with no pants or underwear and expose her vagina. My point being that some of us out here have some pretty serious distorted mental s*** we're dealing with. I'm not "Go to a psych ward" levels, but lately, I'm dealing with stuff like this. Knowing how irrational and distorted my worries are doesn't necessarily resolve them, so I take them here, hoping people won't get annoyed and will help instead. Please don't be upset with me. I am serious with this and it REALLY does affect me. I know it seems really outlandish to you, but then again, the Law of One seems outlandish probably to most. Just... please be patient with me here. I'm not trolling. And I really am full of worry that I'm learning to release. And you all ARE massively helping. I love you. I don't want to troll you. I take this thread seriously, this forum seriously, the Law of One seriously and my catalyst seriously. Please don't judge me for it. I love you. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-07-2018 removed RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - ada - 09-07-2018 (09-06-2018, 07:34 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(09-06-2018, 06:50 PM)JJCarsonian Wrote: 1 of hundreds of billions of people who has ever lived on earth has been tricked into going into negative time space, and you are worried you might be the 2nd? Based on all your posts in totality , I would think you're trolling everyone. Maybe you use to be a serious poster and come back with a new identity to mess with people? It's really hard to believe that you believe a lot of the stuff that you say You see, none of us truly knows what's beyond, what's true or not. It's all mostly faith, hope, and personal truths. Surely we can land you a shoulder to lean on, and an ear to listen. But we can't learn for you, we can't teach you what your life pattern's about. If we could, and we can't, then you would rely on us and make little to no personal spiritual progress. It's good to raise up discussions from time to time, but to base all your life catalyst on others to decipher just seems not plausible. We do not know you personally, your experiences, your thoughts and feelings and what makes you you. If you truly wish to take up responsibility and learn, then do learn, there is so much information on the L/L Research website. Bringing up discussions relating to that sort of teaching seems a lot more appropriate in my opinion. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - Agua - 09-07-2018 removed RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-07-2018 (09-07-2018, 02:13 AM)Agua Wrote: Try to relax a little bit, Phoenix! Why the sudden change of tone? Are you as flaccid as a politician? Did your point have no merit? I'm confused. RE: Worried about being transported to negative time/space - GentleReckoning - 09-07-2018 (09-07-2018, 03:17 AM)Agua Wrote: To expand on that a little, i'll give a hypothetical example: Let me summarize: Limited, closing in, serious threat, upside down, tighter and tighter, you are being pushed, fear of death, stress and struggle, life... about to end, die, end of ... life, fear of death, stress and struggle, the greatest pain, greatest pain and the biggest fear by 10,000, gates to hell, demons fighting you, scenes of torture, trauma from other lifetimes, all alone in hell, a paragraph of sudden typos forcing a deeper hypnotic state, I don't want the baby, perfect point for psychic attack, haha, you said borth. I'm not going to validate the rest. If 90-100% fear-mongering isn't enough to convince you, perhaps you could learn to more artfully apply the art of fart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUaEtf1s23w |